Maserati is suffering. The brand still pops up in plenty of songs, for sure, but that’s more because it rhymes with “party” and less because it’s actually moving product. It’s starting to cause some majorly awkward scenes, with one dealer decimating the price of one Maserati MC20 that hasn’t sold since 2022.
The vehicle in question is on sale at Van Nuys Maserati in Sherman Oaks, California. It’s a 2022 Maserati MC20 coupe, currently listed for just $208,000. Compared to an MSRP of $293,895, that’s a crazy $85,895 discount from the dealership. Don’t get it wrong, either—this is a new vehicle with just delivery mileage on the clock. It comes complete with the factory warranties and everything.
You might think it’s a fluke, but it’s not. It’s far from the only MC20 out there with big money on the hood.
Van Nuys has three more MC20s sitting on the lot. The rest are all 2023 models, all with discounts of over $20,000. The pick of the rest of them is the 2023 MC20 Cielo in Giallo Genio—translated from Italian, that’s a droptop Spyder in yellow. It’ll set you back $270,000.
If you’re not in California, though, there are still plenty of discounted MC20s out there. Maserati of Naperville in Illinois has a $23,196 discount on a 2024 MC20 Cielo, which is nicely finished in black, and a similar price on a silver one too. Aristocrat Motors in Kansas has a red hard top for just $249,950, a full $37,545 off MSRP.
Meanwhile, head over to Maserati of Bergen County in New Jersey, and they’ll be more than happy to cut you a serious deal. You can take $58,697 off a white Cielo droptop, which comes in at just $249,998. Alternatively, you can check out the bargain bin, where there’s a 2023 MC20 in Orange Zest for just $209,998—a discount of $70,197. It’s been sitting around at the dealer for 524 days now—almost one and a half years. According to Cars.com, the dealer had initially hoped to sell it for a $25,000 markup back in July 2023. Best laid plans and all that.
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So what’s going on? Well, for whatever reason, people just aren’t buying Maserati’s pretty little supercar. It’s not short on performance—it offers 621 horsepower from the win-turbocharged Nettuno V6. That’s paired with an eight-speed dual-clutch gearbox and some seriously good looks. As you can see in this Instagram reel, Matt was impressed when he drove one.
Regardless, quite a few of these cars are just languishing on dealer lots for months or years at a time. It’s truly wild that 2022 models are still on sale on the eve of 2025. That simply shouldn’t happen. This is more what you expect with Maserati’s beleaguered SUVs, not the performance stuff.
It’s an interesting state of affairs, too, given the press at launch. In mid-2021, we were told the entire US allocation for the debut 2022 model year had sold out. If that were truly the case, I’m curious why we’re seeing “new” 2022 models on sale today unless they meant “allocated” instead of truly sold out. Nor would you expect a bevy of 2023 models that can’t seem to find owners.
So, what to do? Well, if you dig weird Italian supercars that your Bumble dates can’t positively identify, go get yourself a discount Maserati MC20. Then let me know later on if you come to regret it.
Image credits: via Cars.com screenshot
“My Maserati does 185…
I lost my license, now I don’t drive”
A shame, as it’s one of the prettiest high-end sports cars out there.
If only they could sell something that pretty at a more attainable price point, like, say, $85,000… Then it’d be pretty neat.
Nobody can afford expensive crap nowadays, gotta either make it really awesome or affordable for anyone to bite.
“It’s not short on performance—it offers 621 horsepower from the win-turbocharged Nettuno V6. “
Until you consider that the 2nd gen Ford GT got anywhere from 647-700hp from its 3.5L twin turbo V6.
And I would argue it was more pretty than this Maserati.
Mind you the GT had an MSRP that was quite a bit higher… something like $500,000 and they now go for around $900K to a million bucks.
But then also look at the new 2024 C8 Corvette e-Ray which gives you a 655hp hybrid V8 powertrain starting at around $107,000.
Or you can get a C8 Corvette ZR1 with over 1000hp for around $200K.
So as far as mid-engine supercars go, it’s not that special. But as a result of it selling poorly, it might be a good time to snap one up “for cheap”…. well cheap as far as new, low-volume Italian/European mid-engine hypercars go.
It might end up being a good investment after it goes out of production… just like what happened with the Ford GT.
Okay, okay. So, I feel compelled to at least partially unsheathe my sword in defense of the sometimes great, but not always fantastic trident bearing brand.
So, Maserati is kind of like the Nickelback of the automotive enthusiasts’ world in the sense that it’s very cool to hate on them because they’re supposed to be this great thing but in reality they’re garbage, right? As a lover of vehicular machines I’m a great proponent of embracing what things are instead of lamenting what they are not. I have owned multiple Maseratis over the years. The ownership experience has been trying, at times, and tantalizing at others. The much maligned Quattroporte (V) is not a bad car. I own one. It’s a lot of fun at its current price point. This is representative of many of their latter model entries now awash in the tsunamic depreciation thrust upon them. They’re neat. They’re interesting. I don’t think I’d have one as my only car, but as a tertiary or later mode of transportation amusement (what would 10th car be?) little harm done. These new MCs are dynamite. I’m genuinely shocked to see so many available at such steep discounts. I suppose they’re scorned by the Ferrari and “Lambro” crowd, and as such the price point just hasn’t facilitated their proliferation to their forever homes. Could these be the Mopar Winged Warriors (Daytona/Superbird) of the modern era? I’ll, as always, continue to enjoy the interesting rides of folks with enough of a financial step on me to hemorrhage large sums greasing the wheels of my never ending bang-for-buck vehicular acquisitions.
Maserati and Alfa will more than likely be gone from the US within 5 years. This is just insane. Serves Maserati right for selling the awful Chrysler influenced Quattroporte and awful Ghibli for so many years.
This prompted me to look up my local Maserati dealership. It’s closed.
The next closest one has a couple of Grecale Folgores for “call for price”. 245 miles of range from a 105 kWh battery? Obscenely wasteful!
Maserati only rhymes with party in Boston. It does rhyme with missed the potty, which isn’t a bad analogy for how Maserati is doing right now.
Wow with 85k already gone it’ll probably only depreciate another 40% of what you paid for it now
I’m guessing the world is running out of 20yo YouTubers to sell this shit to.
ACKSHUALLY “decimate” means to cull 1/10 of a group, usually soldiers, as punishment. 85k off a 293k car is much worse! It’s like thirdimate or something.
“It’s genocidal pricing over here in Sherman Oaks!”
Why I’m not in marketing…
“We’ll selling below holocost! So just rwanda down the street to our dealer, where we serb hot, fresh coffee that’s uighur than Sanka. Ask for Sue or Dan.”
I’m glad you are being pedantic so I don’t have to be!
Happy to help
Because every single Maserati ends up as a used pile of garbage, this has been the case for what, 40 years?
oh hey, let’s take a peek at recent one!
https://www.parkplaceltd.com/used-Bellevue-2006-Maserati-Quattroporte-4dr+Sdn-ZAMCE39A760021704
Well it was passe, even in the early 90s to drive a Maserati and be like John Gotti…
Also, not to quibble, but 100 miles is way more than delivery mileage and they were probably all very hard test drive/joyride miles put on during the break-in period.
Normally that might not matter, but this is Maserati we’re talking about.
Yeah, but I would hope that someone drove it over the past couple of years. That’s better than just sitting.
Joe Walsh will buy one if it does 185.
Nah, I hear he has a limo now, rides in the back
with good door locks
Typical Stellantis turnover time.
No, but seriously this car is kind of odd.
Despite being RWD, using significant carbon fiber in its construction and equipping only a small V6, it manages to weigh 3750 lb. That’s high, but would at least be defensible if the car was suited for grand touring. Instead, it has virtually zero luggage space.
It’s fast, but not as fast as similarly-priced competitors.
It looks great, but the Maserati badge doesn’t seem to carry as much weight as it used to.
I think it deserves better than this, but it is hard to blame buyers for choosing the known commodity at $250K.
I’ve never felt sorry for a car before in the same way I feel sorry for the MC20. Perhaps it is a case of too little too late, or perhaps there isn’t enough 200k supercar market to go around. But it’s a shame that this car, which garnered significant praise from journalists, has been forgotten by its target market. Hopefully Stellantis can weather this storm, because every once in a while, they drop a banger.
Had Maserati made it look like a gently redone Merak it would have been absolutely storming. Or a Ghibli redo. The tedious default :supercar angry eyes, all pulled back approach to the vehicle’s styling is antithetical to the Maserati OG GT MO. Ghibli for me!
An acquaintance had a Ghibli and a BMW i8 at the same time. He traded the Ghibli in on a “Mustang” EV and kept the i8 as “the reliable car”.
I read it this way:
Dealer is selling a car that is a fluke for a price that is not a fluke
Whoever buys this, good luck servicing it, because it will definitely break down 🙂
I read it as “Fluke” and sure enough it was yellow.
I could not understand why it was cheaper than the other colors since Fluke is generally well regarded amongst the pokewire folks. Maybe some other reason.
“Pokewire” 🙂 that brings the joke to the next level of nerd, You need to use the Fluke multimeter quite a lot to fix the many “flukes” (cough -features) of this amazing car.
I dont know how much Chrysler went into this one, but I remember looking at a grandturismo – gorgeous exterior, amazing engine sound, but interior was chrysler garbage: melting coating on buttons and plastics, melting fake leather trims, basically everything that was touched turned to shit
It’s a bit of shame that no one seems to be interested in these. I think they’re gorgeous, and while the cylinder obsessed will write it off apparently that twin turbo V6 is an interesting and characterful little engine. I legitimately kind of feel bad for Maserati here…they took a lot of shit (deservedly so), then went out and put a ton of work into making a supercar that’s actually quite good, and no one cared. It’s a bummer.
While I certainly don’t have the means to even be welcome in the same room as an MC20 I know we have people that frequent this site who do. I’d encourage them to consider taking a look at one, especially at these prices. There are 911s sitting on dealer lots right now that cost way more than one of these.
And at the end of the day this is the type of crazy shit that we all complain companies don’t make enough of anymore. If we don’t talk with our money there won’t be much left for us in the not so distant future. But anyway…we want justice for the MC20! It deserves so much better than this!
The MC20 is miles better than a 911 Turbo, even tho it costs more. The problem IMHO is the trident badge doesn’t mean much to non-car people, unlike a Porsche/Ferrari/Lambo, and here in the US people see it more like an Alfa or FIAT than a Ferrari, even though it’s the latter’s step-brother.
This isn’t a car someone’s going to hold onto for life. The buyer (hypothetical, obviously, since there don’t seem to be any buyers for these) will eventually have to sell it.
Anyone with a trident at sales time will wish it had any other badge on the nose.
I have never complained that there is a shortage of $200k+ sports cars.
I wonder how much of that is just depreciation for sitting on the lot for three years?
Beautiful car.
So, tinfoil hat on: people don’t buy the Maser, because there’s no pyramid scheme. People buy Lambos and Ferraris so that they can be on Oligarch Santa’s Nice List for the “special editions.” It’s a conveyer belt of privileged fuckery, just to end up with a car that history may or may not deem to be collectible in 20 years time. Bragging rights exist too, I guess.
Despite my negative attitude at the concept, it’s a relatively successful scheme that helps guarantee that product gets moved while also maintaining a label of exclusiveness.
You really hate people with money, eh? lol
There’s a level at which it’s offensive. Buying each new Ferrari just to get the equivalence of United Silver Premier is a bit much
This. I genuinely don’t care if people that provide vital services are well compensated. I’m not going to lose any sleep over a neurosurgeon having a high salary. It doesn’t bother me that someone who has spent their life working hard has a pile of a few million to retire on. There are even some arguments that people that are regular levels of wealthy are good for the economy.
What does bother me is the obscene hoarding of resources by the 1%. Billionaires should not exist and NO ONE obtains that level of wealth through ethical means. It takes an extreme amount of selfishness and complete disregard for our species. The ultra wealthy are antisocial and are literally ruining the world for everyone else, and yet our society is so broken that we worship these people.
It’s mind boggling to me, and I hate the stupid conservative DURRRR SO YOU HATE RICH PEOPLE? retort nearly as much as I hate their DURRRR YOU’RE JUST JEALOUS one. I don’t care if some professional in my neighborhood has a 1.5 million dollar house and a 911. Good for them.
But I DO care that there are people so deranged and antisocial that they’re sitting on piles of wealth and resources so vast that they could solve pretty much all of society’s problems but decide to have 7 houses, 30 cars, buy off politicians, etc. with it. The fact that you’re allowed to accumulate that much wealth and be that openly disdainful towards humanity is a failure of society.
I don’t even know that I’d consider them human. They’re something else. They look like us and talk like us, but there is something profoundly wrong with them. And instead of it getting called out like it should be it’s celebrated…
I’m with you, Sorta. The hoarding and using money to buy their way into politics or buy their way out of jail or to pay off (sorry, “settle” with) people they rape or abuse is terrible and an absolute failure. And, to your point, people’s general inclination to put these people on pedestal like they’re some sort of god is just pathetic. People need to have more self-confidence and self-worth and stop idolizing them. They are generally terrible people, absentee parents, unfaithful partners, and undeserving of most if not all praise.
BUT, I think the fact that they buy 7 houses and 30 cars is about the best thing they do. They should buy more. I don’t care if they park them, burn them, use them, or abuse them. Spending their money and putting it back into the economy, into the people’s pockets that are building the cars and houses is about the only true good they will do in their life. They should live extravagant lives and spend as much as possible.
I mean the vast majority of them are just people who founded successful companies that people find value in.
“Hoarding” wealth generally just means not selling your stock. There’s no Scrooge McDuck piles of gold out there that people are swimming in.
I don’t think this kind of rhetoric is very helpful. Advocate for higher taxes on the wealthy if that is your preferred politics, but when CEOs are getting gunned down in broad daylight in Manhattan and some obscene percentage of people approve of it, you can’t really say the “eat the rich” stuff is harmless anymore.
That CEO’s greed cost many people their lives. Corporate greed in general is costing millions of people their lives, their well-being, their sanity, etc. People have been advocating for higher taxes for decades at this point and no one from either party has listened.
I’m not advocating for violence here because that’s a slippery slope, but I’m also not losing any sleep over some dude who implemented a faulty AI program to deny something like 70% of claims so he and his cronies could maximize their money on the backs of the suffering of others getting a taste of his own medicine.
Our country has spent the last 50+ years operating on the assumption that the free markets will influence the wealthy and corporations into simply doing the right thing and helping everyone…and what we have to show for it is worse wealth inequality than the gilded age and a billionaire con artist preparing for his second term as president so he can make it even worse.
I know you and I have very different views here and you are a big believer in capitalism. My main issue with the free market and capitalism is that it only works when people are able to start on equal footing. We have completely destroyed that possibility as a society and are nearing third world levels of social ills despite being the wealthiest nation in the world.
I’m not sure how you can look at that and not conclude that something is very, very wrong. We could EASILY provide everyone in our country with a baseline life that includes food, water, shelter, education, and healthcare. These are considered basic human rights pretty much everywhere else. Instead we have a handful of people controlling all of those things, milking them for obscene profit, and keeping everything for themselves.
At the end of the day it really just boils down to whether or not you care about other people. Conservatives and many liberals only care about themselves and those in close proximity to them. People on the more progressive/left wing side of things care about everyone. And if the oligarchs are scared then it’s no skin off my back. They’re the ones who caused this shit and they have the power to fix it. The issue is that capitalism assumes that people will willingly choose to do the right thing and that the best will always rise to the top.
Unfortunately neither of those things are true. There need to be guardrails in place to keep this monstrosity on the right path, and the 1% are doing everything in their power to keep that from happening. I get why people are mad, and in the grand scheme of things I’m pretty well-off and I grew up in a wealthy family. I just spend time in the trenches and see the real consequences of this stuff while most folks bury their heads in the sand and say “well I got mine so other people aren’t my problem”.
I like and respect you and your comments here, so I’m not going to press the point much further, but if you actually believe this statement:
Then I encourage you to ask some people on the progressive left how much they care about Israelis, insurance CEOs, 1%-ers, MAGAs, and so on. Everyone has their biases.
Don’t take my statements as an endorsement of anything about the status quo, other than “murdering people is in all circumstances wrong and should be condemned loudly, repeatedly, and without exception”.
But you will forgive me for a bit I hope if I express some rage that our country has been turned over to an unpredictable narcissist in large part because the other side couldn’t or wouldn’t argue forcefully for how good the economy really is for most people (a drum I’ve been beating here for years). I simply don’t believe that doom posting is either accurate or helpful to the situation.
I think murdering the insurance CEO was wrong, but I’m also paying attention to how much longer people are Expressing Concern over that than they do about the school shooting of the week.
I’m not celebrating the murder of a CEO.
I just denied the claim for empathy. They’re welcome to appeal it.
When 40% of young people and 47% of “very liberal” people approve of the school shootings then I’ll believe that it’s as big of a deal in the way our society relates to one another.
https://today.yougov.com/politics/articles/51189-presidential-pardons-billionaires-and-luigi-mangione-december-15-17-2024-economistyougov-poll.
More than one thing can be bad.
Both are bad. But we have an entire pro-school-shooting political party, where right after yet another school shooting they send out Christmas cards with kids holding rifles.
I do not believe anything close to 40% of Republicans are “pro school shooting”, distasteful troll stunts about Christmas cards aside, and I think people believing stuff like this is a big part of why this country is what it is.
With more subtlety, Republicans think the consequences of preventing school shootings are worse than the consequences of letting them happen.
I like and respect you too and I’m a big believer in discourse, which unfortunately a lot of folks who share my beliefs are not. We aren’t going to make the country a better place by sitting in echo chambers and I’m always willing to have discussions even with the type of MAGA folks that many folks like me shun.
The Democratic Party is an embarrassing failure that left its working class roots. Their rhetoric has also alienated key voting blocs-like white men and rural folks. Surprise! If you tell people they’re problematic just for existing they’re not going to want to vote for you. It also doesn’t help that the image the party puts off is not that far off from what the right accuses it of being-highly educated coastal elites that are indifferent towards the very real suffering that’s plaguing rural America.
Even though Democratic policies are pretty much objectively better for those folks than Republican ones the message gets completely lost in translation and populism sells. People are pissed at the system, and they should be! I am too. Trump et al promise disruption. Dems promise more of the same. Most people either don’t have the time or don’t care to dig any deeper than the spark notes, so boisterous disruption it is, even if the fine print tells a different story.
Dems make the fatal mistake of ignoring the working class and alienating the types of folks they need (and used to reliably get) votes from time and time again. I also think their hyper fixation on fringe social issues is ridiculous. That’s not to say I don’t care about those issues. I’m vocally pro LGBTQ rights, I believe institutional racism is a thing because I’ve studied it, etc. But that stuff isn’t on the minds of the vast majority of voters.
Anyway I can do Dem post mortems all day every day…and I hope they learn their lesson but they didn’t in 2016 so I wouldn’t put any money on it. I also think the two party system is busted beyond repair, but I’ll save that for another day.
I think I mostly agree with you, but imma stop you right there^^.
Starting with Reagan in ’81 (and ’86) Republicans have always been the ones slashing away at taxes and increasing the deficit, there’s no “both sides!!1!” here.
How many lives are lost every year due to insurance companies denying healthcare to insured patients? The insurance companies are denying nausea medication to kids on chemo, just to pad their wallets a little more. I don’t care that a CEO got killed. He is personally responsible for the death of tens of thousands of American citizens every single year.
You are obviously a poor as United Silver Premier is the lowest of the United Airlines Premier Status levels. However, as a bleeding rich with several Ferrari cars, and of course both a Bugatti Chiron and Veyron, I wouldn’t be caught dead on a passenger airliner. Why the poor can even afford a Cirrus Vision Jet these days. No, it’s either Gulfstream G800 or nothing for me.
I kid Mr. Nug. Actually, you seem to understand the concept behind the “privileged f-ery” of exotic car buyers better than most – at least those (few) who pay cash – despite your stated disdain for the rich.
Here’s where Maserati went wrong. They should have increased the price to build sales. An exotic car is a Veblen good. Veblen goods become more desirable when the price increases. Cutting the price on an exotic car puts it in the same category as a Dodge, Chevy or Ford.
Everyone likes to signal who they are. If you are salt of the earth (poor), you drive a 20 year old Camry. (By the way, someone called me that once. When I found out what it meant, I was pissed, even if the name fit. And I don’t even drive a used car!)
If you drive an EV, you want to virtue signal as a friend of the earth. (In fact, I drive an EV, giving me more bonafides as an earth lover than Greta Thunberg.)
And if you drive an exotic car, you don’t want to be seen driving a cheap exotic. You are rich. It’s your right, privilege and part of your lifestyle to flaunt it!
All I know is that the local Ferrari dealer invited me to test drive a Roma once and it changed my life. Now I’d shave a few whales if that would put one in my driveway. Salt of the earth indeed.
I get the gist of your point but just about every ferrari is custom ordered. paying 300k for a car on a lot is not very usual. There is a good chance that these are cars that were delivered to the dealership that the buyers never paid the rest of the money to take delivery and the dealers are stuck holding the bag. If the original person who ordered the car already forfeited a significant deposit the dealer still gets all their money.
If I’m paying $300k for a car, you better believe it’s not going to be off the rack. These cars won’t sell until they drop to the mid 100s, I think, where they’ll compete with the high-end of production cars by MB/BMW etc. and the low end of nicer cars like Aston.
I’m not entirely sure I understand your point in relation to my post
That is true of Ferrari, not really for Lambo. Anyone can walk in and order a Lambo.
You can only buy a new Ferrari if you own a Ferrari. That means you can often sell your new Ferrari for more than you paid for it, then go to the dealer and order your next Ferrari.
You’re right that it’s more applicable to Ferrari, but Lambo special editions still get a priority list based on purchase history