Welcome to day two of our week-long search for some actually reasonable used cars! Today we’re dropping even further down the price range, and looking at a couple of cars for sale in the Minneapolis/St. Paul area. They’re a little crispy around the edges, but they’re cheap and they run fine.
I was a little bit surprised by yesterday‘s results, not because I didn’t expect the Accord to win, but because I didn’t guess that the Buick would still carry such an old-man stigma. Yeah, it was probably someone’s grandpa’s car ten years ago, but who cares? Now it’s a reliable, comfy car that’s dirt-cheap to insure and is maybe halfway through its service life.
Don’t get me wrong; I really like that Accord too. And in fact, this is one of those comparisons where I think it would come down to a test drive and an inspection. Whichever one felt more honest in person would get the nod. That’s a difficult proposition, because they’re on opposite coasts, however.
Today’s cars are easier to cross-shop, because they’re both in the Twin Cities, a place that measures annual snowfall in feet, often drops below zero for days at a time, and uses a ton of salt to keep road ice at bay. It’s hard on cars. Any cheap cars you find there – and many expensive cars, come to that – are going to have some rust on them. Mechanical reliability is more important; I can tell you from experience how much it sucks to have some old clunker refuse to start when it’s nine below out and you’re already late for work. These two are both nice and solid mechanically, and it sounds like they’ve been well cared for. Let’s check them out.
2000 Toyota Corolla CE – $2,000
Engine/drivetrain: 1.8-liter dual overhead cam inline 4, four-speed automatic, FWD
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Odometer reading: 143,000 miles
Operational status: Runs and drives well
If ever there was a “default reliable car for non-car-people,” it’s the Toyota Corolla. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve recommended a Corolla to someone, and no one who has taken that advice has regretted it. I’ve even owned a couple of Corollas myself over the years. You can’t call them exciting, but they do the job of being a car better than just about anything. And even better, unlike its big brother the Camry, a used Corolla can usually be had for cheap; the “Toyota tax” doesn’t seem to hit them as hard.
This generation of Corolla is powered by a 1ZZ-FE four-cylinder engine. This engine has a very un-Toyota-like tendency to burn oil, but it is still plenty reliable. This one is coupled to a four-speed automatic, but I can tell you from experience that a manual transmission doesn’t really make this car any more interesting; it just gives you more to do. It’s still young at 143,000 miles, and it’s been owned by the same family its whole life.
The word “sturdy” comes to mind when discussing the interior of a Corolla. “Dreary” as well. There’s nothing wrong with it, but it’s not going to inspire anyone to do anything more than go from one place to another. This one is in good condition, except for the air conditioning. It conked out not long ago, and the seller elected not to have it repaired.
It’s not all that rusty, really; the passenger’s side looks all right, and the driver’s side doesn’t have any gaping holes. It’s not uncommon for cars to rust more on the driver’s side. That side gets crud from oncoming traffic as well as passing cars when it’s parked. Obviously it’s not worth fixing, but it will be years before it becomes a problem.
2008 Chevrolet Malibu LT – $2,000
Engine/drivetrain: 2.4-liter dual overhead cam inline 4, four-speed (?) automatic, FWD
Location: Farmington, MN
Odometer reading: 162,000 miles
Operational status: Runs and drives well
The Malibu nameplate has a long history, stretching all the way back to 1964 when it was introduced as a trim level on the new mid-sized Chevelle. In 1978, the Chevelle name was dropped, and the Malibu became its own model. As famous as the name was, it was replaced after 1983, ironically by a car called the Celebrity. Celebrity became Lumina, or Corsica depending on which one you considered the middle of the range, and then in 1997 Chevy came to its senses and brought back the Malibu name. Last year, the Malibu fell victim to the crossover takeover and went out of production again – this time without a replacement.
The base engine in this era of Malibu is a 2.4-liter Ecotec four, putting out 169 horsepower to the front wheels. It’s an automatic, of course – no car with a Malibu badge has had a manual transmission since 1983 – but I can’t tell you for sure how many gears it has. Both a four- and a six-speed automatic were available. Whichever it is, it’s in good condition, and the seller says it runs and drives well.
Inside, it’s got more plastic parts than an AMT model kit, but it’s serviceable. It looks like it could use a good cleaning, but it’s not torn up or anything. The traction control and airbag warning lights are on, which may or may not be a big deal depending on your feelings about those particular systems. But everything else works, the seller says.
It’s pretty rusty outside, and it’s probably worth looking underneath to make sure there’s nothing more serious than what you can see. If it’s still structurally sound, then it should serve someone well until it isn’t.
Keep in mind, we’re talking about cars that cost two grand here. You might not have any need for such basic transportation, but try to put yourself in the mind of someone who does. These should both last someone a couple of years, for the same price as a handful of payments on something newer. They’d also make good first cars for someone’s kid, especially if that kid is paying their own way. So, in short, be a good sport and pick one.
(Image credits: sellers)
Bullshit, Corollas are crap. I had an E11 that lasted all of three months before it shat itself with some kind of engine management/electrical issue.
It was surprisingly comfortable to drive though and it revved up to 7500,but the Toyota tax is really overrated.
Corolla is better value for money here, and should consume less fuel.
The 2008 Malibu had some issues especially with Chevrolet going bankrupt.
If the Malibu were in better shape, it might have had a chance. This Corolla is pretty good for the price.
Easy win for the Corolla. Those things are automotive cockroaches – nothing short of a nuclear holocaust will stop them, and even then…
Not all generations of the Corolla. Some years were real horrors…
Next up is the 3800 V6.
Corolla for me. The Corolla is solid, reliable low cost transportation.
And that Chevy, even though it’s 8 years newer seems to have more rust.
When I first got down to the Chevy, I thought Wow! it even has a sunroof! But the TC and airbag lights scared me away.
(And I also thought how happy I am to live in an area where they don’t use salt.)
It seems like Corollas are as hard to kill as Top Gears Hilux.
Corolla for me. The Malibu looks rougher and coupled with the airbag light, I have a hard time trusting it.
My vote is for the Malibu because compared to a Corolla it looks and drives like an Audi RS7.
*Brian from RCR voice*
TOYOTA. COROLLA.
I am fond of the Malibu having previously owned a 2008 V6 LT myself, but too many flags compared to the Corolla.
Corolla, brought to you by beige corduroy jacket, pants and desert boots. Fine invisible car. I chose the Honda yesterday because I could haul things slowly with it.
These are both so boring but for choices they’re still ok. Thought about going Malibu for a second, but went Corolla due to lower miles and that it’s been owned by the same family its whole life. These are both good beaters w/ a heater
that Malibu is far too gone. And the traction control light could probably be an ABS wheel sensor or something else. Not an expensive part and if you have an OBDII with ABS module diagnostics and are handy you could tackle it yourself. The airbag light might be more expensive and time consuming, though.
All in it’s not worth getting those fixed so run as it is, but I don’t see myself getting into such trouble.
PS. this one has a 4 spd as noted in the shift indicator (6 slots P-R-N-D-I-L while the 6 spd only has 5 slots P-R-N-D-M).
The Corolla is my pick today. Needless to say some of these still used a 3 spd like my HS friend’s and it was such a dog. This one has the O/D button and A245E sticker on the VIN sticker so yeah a 4spd indeed.
Agree on the ABS light. Does anyone who knows this particular model know if the tone ring or the abs sensor tends to go first in the rust belt?
Still not a fan of the airbag light. The bumper and fenders look a little funny, wonder if there was an accident at some point.
my guess is one of the wiring harnesses under the front seats. Those pigtails can go loose with time
Let’s see here…
A 1-owner Corolla with lower miles and fairly standard rust patterns
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an Ecotec with higher miles, large holes in multiple quarter panels, and duct-tape marks on the bumper cover (possibly covering a fender bender?). The holes worry me as they’re not quite in the normal places. Deeper rust is likely hiding underneath.
Either one would get the job done, they’re well matched. But I’d take the Corolla. Especially if “consistent and regular maintenance servicing” means the car comes with records. Knowing a car’s history adds significantly to its value (to me).
Just be sure to add oil regularly!
Easy Malibu for me. This specific year of the 1ZZ-FE didn’t just burn oil. It developed a bad main seal and ran through obscene amounts of oil at relatively low (say, 100k) miles. Every car has bad years and this was a bad year for the Corolla.
Corolla!!!!I bought a used 1999 Prizm that was a year old from a rental lot and drove for 9 years,160k miles and it never left me stranded.The odd thing about that car was when it dropped below 10F that car did not want to start.I would always have to crank it a few times before it started in that cold weather.
Easily the Corolla for me. These aren’t fun cars: they’re beaters, and my experience tells me the Toyota will take a beating longer—and more cheerfully—than that GM
There are exceptions. The Buick 3800 V6 can take severe abuse. The 6.0L L96 HD can take tons of abuse. But that is a truck engine, so….
I should also qualify that I tend to gravitate towards smaller cars when possible because I spend more time on rural mountain roads & trails than highways
If you are navigating small places, sure.