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A Man Wants To Solve The Problem Of Tiny Airplane Seats By Stacking Passengers On Top Of Each Other

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If you’ve flown economy at any point in the past decade or so I’m sure I don’t need to tell you how hilariously awful it can be. You get a sliver of space in an uncomfortable seat for however long it takes you to get to your destination. If you’re especially unlucky, you’re flying on an airline like Spirit where you have to pay for every possible thing. Well, if Airbus and a designer have their way, flying could get even more bizarre. This is the Chaise Longue, a double-decker economy class seat concept for single-deck aircraft.

The Chaise Longue Economy Seat concept has been floating around the Internet since 2021. Its inventor and designer is Chaise Longue CEO Alejandro Núñez Vicente, who thinks this could be an improvement on the economy flying experience. Alejandro says that by filling planes with double-decker rows of economy seats, the people sitting on the lower level will benefit from greater legroom while the people on the higher level can get more recline.

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At the same time, Alejandro admits that the concept could help pad the profitability of an airline by helping that airline pack planes with even more seats than they do now. But is this something that the airline industry actually needs? Chaise Longue and Airbus intend to find out.

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Credit: Chaise Longue Economy Seat

It’s pretty well-known by now that few travelers find economy-class seats on an aircraft satisfying. As I write this, there are groups and advocates attempting to push airlines towards bigger, more comfortable seats for all, not just for the passengers paying more.

Some folks complain that the current crop of economy seats just don’t work for people with long legs while others allege that the tiny seats on aircraft now might be bad for your health. The Federal Aviation Administration has launched an investigation into the sizes of airline seats, but even it has been quick to note that this research is only into the safety of these seats, not their comfort. As far as the FAA appears to be concerned, passengers can be plopped down into park benches so long as they meet regulations and permit an emergency evacuation within 90 seconds.

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The Chaise Longue is the concept of Alejandro Núñez Vicente. In 2021, Alejandro was a 21-year-old student attending TU Delft University in the Netherlands. At the time, the seats were called the Chaise Longue Economy Seat Project and it made the shortlist for Judges’ Choice for that year’s Crystal Cabin Awards.

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Credit: Chaise Longue Economy Seat

According to CNN, Alejandro used to travel around the world and one thing stuck out as being particularly painful. He hated how the seats of today lacked legroom. He figured that if only the seats in front of them were higher up, he could actually spread his legs out.

So that’s what he did. Alejandro drew up the Chaise Longue, a double-decker airline seat design made for any medium to large aircraft.

Here’s how the Chaise Longue works. An aircraft being outfitted with Chaise Longue seating would delete all overhead bins near the seats. Doing so will allow Chaise Longues to fit. Then, passengers will have to choose seats based on what they’re looking for. If they want maximum recline, they’ll have to climb up into the upper rows. If they want to relax and stretch their legs out with maximum legroom, you choose the lower seats. Both levels have better recline than planes have now, but those on the upper level have the greatest recline of the two choices.

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Credit: Chaise Longue Economy Seat

In terms of baggage, your personal items should fit in the included storage, but you’ll have to check your carry-on. Alejandro also pitched the idea as being pandemic-safe, as he believed placing people at different levels would be “more suitable for flights in pandemic times.”

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After that CNN story, the Internet erupted and nobody was quite sure what to make of the creation. As CNN wrote, some thought it was genius while others thought it was a total nightmare for people with claustrophobia or limited mobility. Others pointed out that it’s just another way for airlines to make flying worse by packing even more people into a plane and trying to package it as a good thing.

Either way, the reaction was so strong that Alejandro stopped pursuing his master’s degree and began working on this project full-time. He now has a business under the name Chaise Longue and a fancy website showing what a plane would look like with the chairs.

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Credit: Chaise Longue Economy Seat

Perhaps more importantly, his team built some prototypes. CNN tested out the prototypes in 2022 and here’s what CNN’s Francesca Street reported:

First up, the top level. Núñez Vicente’s designed the prototype with two ladder-like steps for travelers to use to access the top level. It’s a little precarious, but once I’m up there, the seat feels roomy and comfortable, and there’s plenty of room for stretching out my legs. The prototype seats don’t move, but they’re each set up in a different positions to indicate how they could recline.

Núñez Vicente reckons there would be about 1.5 meters separating the seated passenger from the top of the plane. He argues that while a traveler couldn’t stand upright in that space, many already can’t stand upright in regular economy rows – although, presumably, these taller travelers will be even more squished by this design.

Next up, trying the bottom row of seats. Núñez Vicente’s frustration with a lack of legroom was the original impetus for the design, and by not having a seat on the same level in front of me, it does allow me to stretch out my legs, and there’s a foot rest for added comfort. Still, because the other level of seats are directly above me and in my eyeline, it feels pretty claustrophobic. But if you don’t mind tight spaces, and you’re planning simply to sleep all flight, it could be an effective solution.

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Credit: Chaise Longue Economy Seat

Thankfully, the Chaise Longue team went back to the drawing board. Their next iteration that showed up in 2023 (above) was more open, shaved off weight, increased legroom, and now allowed people in wheelchairs to at least access the lower row. CNN had some nicer things to say this time around:

The new design keeps the same basic double-level concept, with a few minor changes. The precarious ladder-like steps that previously got you up to the top level have been switched out for a sturdier version. Luggage on the bottom level is now designed to go under the seat in front of you. Rather than built-in screens, the idea is passengers could use personal devices for inflight entertainment. Núñez Vicente says he’s also improved leg room on the top level, and I find it is pretty spacious. Plus, because there’s no one directly behind you on the same level, you can recline the seat pretty far back, which is a definite plus.

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Credit: Chaise Longue Economy Seat

Now the Chaise Longue is back again for 2025. This time, Alejandro does not have a new version to show us. But he does say that his startup Chaise Longue company is now partnering with Airbus to continue exploring the project. Allegedly, Chaise Longue has airlines interested in the double-decker seats and now Airbus wants to help the project get to the finish line, especially for Airbus aircraft.

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The startup company has acknowledged that there has been tons of backlash on social media. Lots of folks have pointed out that these seats are inherently claustrophobic in nature, specifically for the bottom rows. Others note that the current iteration would allow an upper-row passenger to prop their legs up onto the upper partition.

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Credit: Chaise Longue Economy Seat

Chaise Longue has also received criticism because the real benefit to airlines won’t be giving you legroom, but being able to multiply the number of seats an aircraft has. In talking to CNN, Alejandro insists the Chaise Longue wasn’t designed for that purpose, but he doesn’t shy away from the idea as a selling point, from CNN:

The fact that this concept could also “give the airline a new revenue stream or a new way to make more money out of those passengers or put more seats in” — as Núñez Vicente put it at the Aviation Interiors Expo in 2024 — is merely an added bonus, he insists.

There’s the other problem with what happens to your luggage. Chaise Longue says that both levels have their own storage areas, but all imagery shows them to be no bigger than the personal item space on existing aircraft. Thus, anyone in a Chaise Longue would have to check any carry-on.

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Credit: Chaise Longue Economy Seat

There’s also one more sort of hilarious problem. The current concept places the faces of the people in the lower row directly behind the butts of the people in the upper row. I suppose they might get the delight of smelling what the upper row had for lunch or dinner. Amusingly, Alejandro does have a response to this, from USA Today:

“The idea is that there will be some kind of restraint here,” he said, pointing to the partition behind the upper level of seats. If a passenger passed gas “it wouldn’t go straight through,” unless it were especially forceful.

I have some concerns of my own. Aircraft are supposed to be able to be evacuated in 90 seconds. People evacuating from the Chaise Longue seats would have to jump down or crawl out of their holes in an emergency situation.

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Even worse, the FAA has regulations to prevent head injuries in case of emergency aircraft maneuvers and other intense situations. There’s a whole equation involved here:

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There’s a potential that Alejandro’s current design, which places the heads of the bottom row passengers close to the seats in front of them, would not pass this sniff test.

That aside, there are additional concerns. Legally, airliners have to carry enough cabin crew for the number of people onboard. Likewise, the aircraft will need facilities and food stores to support them. If Frontier or Spirit did an all Chaise Longue configuration those airlines might be required to have more crew onboard, which might remove the incentive for an airline in the first place. At this time nobody even knows how airlines would react to passengers being forced to check carry-ons due to seat design. As it is, a number of airlines automatically gate-check some carry-ons due to the design of the overhead bins in some aircraft.

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Credit: Chaise Longue Economy Seat

All of this is assuming that the seats come down to a weight that airlines would be willing to accept. Remember that airlines try to keep planes as lightweight as possible to save on fuel.

I’m left feeling conflicted. On one hand, more legroom and more seat recline are both great. On the other hand, you would likely have to check your carry-on and deboarding would take substantially longer. I’m not claustrophobic, but I could see my mom causing a ruckus if I told her to get into a cocoon.

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Credit: Chaise Longue Economy Seat

I also don’t like the idea of someone (especially a child) missing a step trying to come down from the upper Chaise Longue and potentially busting their head open.

It also appears that the Chaise Longue, which is shown in the middle row of a widebody but can be installed on the sides, doesn’t have a ton of consideration for lavatory use. If the window seat passenger on the upper level has to use the restroom, do all other occupants up there have to climb down and then climb back up? At least to me, there seem to be too many question marks at this stage of the game.

Because of these factors and so much more, Chaise Longue and Airbus readily admit that you’re not going to be flying in double-stacked seats anytime soon. The seats are still in development and then they’d still have to go through certification. Still, Alejandro and Airbus see their new collaboration as a huge step forward to seeing this project through.

That being said, I do hope designers keep trying to find solutions to how terrible it is to fly economy. Maybe stacking people like flesh Legos might not be the answer, but I’m glad some folks are trying to make things better.

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Highland Green Miata
Highland Green Miata
1 day ago

The next step will be installing pedals to generate electricity to power the electric engines to meet emissions goals. “Pedal faster Grandma, we’re losing altitude!”

Derj
Derj
1 day ago

Aircraft are supposed to be able to be evacuated in 90 seconds.

…the FAA has regulations to prevent head injuries in case of emergency aircraft maneuvers and other intense situations

I mean, this isn’t likely something we’ll have to worry about for much longer… Elon and his boyzzz are going to set fire to any sort of FAA regulations and best practices that might possibly get in the way of maximizing profits. What a time to be alive!

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
1 day ago

Stacking people seems to work well in a morgue.

Vc-10
Vc-10
1 day ago

I cannot see how this could be certified, with the climb down from the upper level.

Thankfully. It looks grim.

Long haul economy is already awful, I couldn’t contemplate this. I’m lucky enough that I can normally manage to be in premium economy, which is perfectly manageable, but I’d without doubt avoid any airline offering this.

Beer-light Guidance
Beer-light Guidance
1 day ago

I have been listening to a lot of the Three Bean Salad podcast lately and looking at the top picture made Mike Wozniak’s voice pop into my head saying “The bottom row comes with a complimentary all-you-can-eat guff buffet.”

Captain Avatar
Captain Avatar
1 day ago

Not only no, but fuck no. Never. Nei.Nunca. Nai.Aldrig. Nooit. Jamais.

I hope an airline does this and hemorrhages so much cash and dies so quickly that no other airlines will ever consider this again.

I’ll take two one way cruises across the ocean to get to where I need to go before I fly like this.

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10001010
10001010
1 day ago

Well now I have to book a ticket to wherever Alejandro Núñez Vicente lives so I can lock him in a confined space long enough to develop a healthy case of claustrophobia and then see what he thinks of his creation. I’m getting anxious just reading this article about this nightmare.

I don't hate manual transmissions
I don't hate manual transmissions
1 day ago

In addition to the aforementioned fart-to-the-face issues, my mind went immediately to the double decker couch from The Lego Movie. This looks about as realistic.

Angry Bob
Angry Bob
1 day ago

I’d like to see like a cubby-hole arrangement, from the aisle to the window, and stacked three high, where you climb in and lay down. Like beds instead of seats. I think it would be way more comfortable.

And bring as much luggage as you want – because it has to fit in your cubby and is your problem only.

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1 day ago

Can we just skip to the model where they just sedate all the passengers then stack them up neatly. You will awaken upon arrival.

OttosPhotos
OttosPhotos
1 day ago

I’d sign up for that, heck, even for my daily commute. Closest I got was when I used to take the train, and the conductor (all of them were laid of some time ago) used to wake people up at their stops.

Pilotgrrl
Pilotgrrl
1 day ago

A science fiction novel I read a long time ago suggested this. I’ve always thought it was a good idea.

Clark B
Clark B
1 day ago

I’m just picturing that Stephen King short story, “The Jaunt.”

Widgetsltd
Widgetsltd
1 day ago

I used to work with a guy who had previously been a manager at Volvo corporate in the US. He said that he got a prescription for a sedative that he would take on flights to Sweden. He would get on the plane on the east coast USA, take his sedative, and soon he would be out for the flight. He said that he usually woke up when the plane touched down – it was like time travel, he said.

Idle Sentiment
Idle Sentiment
1 day ago

“I’m pretty sure my shirt was tucked in when I boarded.”

Taargus Taargus
Taargus Taargus
1 day ago

I’d much rather travel via Mr. Garrison’s “IT” device than suffocate in that seating arrangement.

“Well it beats dealing with the airline companies, that’s for sure.”

Chris Stevenson
Chris Stevenson
1 day ago

How does this work when the plane lands upside down?

Crank Shaft
Crank Shaft
1 day ago

Ask Toronto. They have some recent experience.

Isis
Isis
1 day ago

Just awesome. Another tier:

  1. First Class
  2. Business Class
  3. Economy Premium
  4. Economy Plus
  5. Exit Row
  6. Economy
  7. Fart Sniffer

Fucking genius.

Steve P
Steve P
1 day ago
Reply to  Isis

You’re a smart feller or a fart smeller.

Framed
Framed
1 day ago
Reply to  Isis

You just know part of the pre-launch marketing work is to figure out how to upsell the experience so #7 is higher up the list, perhaps even something they can charge extra for.

Idle Sentiment
Idle Sentiment
1 day ago
Reply to  Isis

We’re on our way to “human centipede tier” territory with this monstrous seating design.

“Particular individuals, this is your captain speaking…
I’d like to welcome you all to the absolute horror that is late stage capitalism.
If you press your faces against your provided in flight screens you will be shown a volley of advertisements against your will.
All restroom subscribers are allowed one bathroom break per flight.
Non subscribers, your restrooms can be found in Newark, NJ. section 8, concourse B.”

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Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
1 day ago
Reply to  Idle Sentiment

“All restroom subscribers are allowed one bathroom break per flight”

An eco-friendly rag-on-a-stick has been provided as required by law free of charge for passenger use. Paper can be purchased by the square for a moderate fee.

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MrLM002
MrLM002
2 days ago

In terms of baggage, your personal items should fit in the included storage, but you’ll have to check your carry-on.

That by itself kills this for me. The reason I bring a carry-on is the shite reliability of checking bags in the first place. I lived out of a carry-on for a month recently and even at the maximum allowed carry-on dimensions you’re pretty damn limited.

The seating solution I want to see is new regional single aisle jets with 2+1 seating. One side is economy, the other side is business and first class.

That being said I’d much rather drive my car most places than fly, even if it takes longer.

Flying commercial was cool when I was a kid, as an adult arriving at my destination without a car, relying on someone else’s car or worse yet a rental car from a sketchy rental company (basically all of them), is shite.

Kevin B Rhodes
Kevin B Rhodes
2 days ago

These concepts have been around for a long time. And they continue to be a non-starter on several levels:

Added weight.
Added evacuation time.
Added risk of injury getting in and out of those upper seats.
Added cost.

GOOD LUCK getting it certified by any of the aviation authorities. Well, maybe in the US given the gutting going on, especially if Musk invests in the company.

People get on airplanes what they are willing to pay for, and it’s been a race to the bottom for decades. Every airline that has tried the “more space for more money” thing has spectacularly failed. If you want a nice experience, spend the money to fly in the premium cabins. It’s cheaper than coach was back in the “good old days” in many cases.

Ultimately, people are whiny babies who love to complain today. Tomorrow, I am stuck in the cheap seats from RSW to DCA because F was sold out already by the time I booked it. Oh well. 2hrs of rubbing shoulders with a stranger is not actually going to give me cooties. Our ancestors survived *immense* hardships to cross this country on covered wagons, modern big babies can suck it up for 4-5hrs in 32B.

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
1 day ago
Reply to  Kevin B Rhodes

“Our ancestors survived *immense* hardships to cross this country on covered wagons”

Well some of them survived. Others got eaten.

Kevin B Rhodes
Kevin B Rhodes
1 day ago
Reply to  Cheap Bastard

They were usually dead before they got eaten. Not much in the continental US that can eat you alive. I guess a hungry Grizzly bear in a really bad mood.

Mostly they died in lots of less interesting ways. Ever watched the series 1883? They should have titled it “All the ways to die on the way out west”.

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
1 day ago
Reply to  Kevin B Rhodes

I have not. I have however narrowly escaped being snowed in a small rental without heat, water, sanitation or power during an intense blizzard in Truckee California, the same place where the Donner party met their fate. That’s good enough for me.

(Ironic how autocorrect keeps changing “Donner party” to “dinner party”.)

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Kevin B Rhodes
Kevin B Rhodes
1 day ago
Reply to  Cheap Bastard

They didn’t kill the people they ate – they were already dead before the decision was made to eat them. Kind of a big difference.

As long as you were alone, all good. I have heard that “long pig” is quite tasty, though absent the ability to give you a good roasting, yuck. 😉

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
1 day ago
Reply to  Kevin B Rhodes

To you maybe. To the dead not so much. Given an informed choice they may have preferred a quick, painless death to avoid the intense suffering of wasting away and maybe even to have left more nutritious sustenance for others.

Kevin B Rhodes
Kevin B Rhodes
1 day ago
Reply to  Cheap Bastard

But then you get into the problem of “who” gets to have the quick painless death. I sure wouldn’t choose that – I would fight it out as long as I can. But I am a big fat guy, I could live off the fat of the land a LONG time, given water to drink.

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
12 hours ago
Reply to  Kevin B Rhodes

“But then you get into the problem of “who” gets to have the quick painless death. I sure wouldn’t choose that – I would fight it out as long as I can. ”

If my time paying Oregon trail was any guide I’m sure something would have happened to speed that choice along. Cholera, dysentery, Typhoid fever, broken leg, oops! a “hunting accident”,..

“But I am a big fat guy, I could live off the fat of the land a LONG time, given water to drink.”

The good news is you’d have had all the potable water you could handle as long as you could find enough heat to melt the many, many yards of snow on top of you. You might even have had it constantly trickling down the chimney.

Crank Shaft
Crank Shaft
2 days ago
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NewBalanceExtraWide
NewBalanceExtraWide
2 days ago

I’m probably weird… I am able to cram myself into tiny spaces and be fine for a few hours. If it keeps airfare cheap, I’m happy to wad myself into a ball. I’m flying this weekend, on one of the budget airlines, and it will probably be fine. I literally don’t care, just get me where I’m going as cheaply as possible.

The World of Vee
The World of Vee
2 days ago

Everytime this is brought to my attention I die a little inside, it’s kind of like those proposed ryan air standing seats which barely failed regulation. For once let’s make something nicer, make it cost 50$ more and get rid of a row or two per cabin and give people some actual space.
End of the day you’re hurtling through the sky in a magical metal bird so it’s all good but you shouldn’t be so uncomfortable that you can’t even move!

Ignatius J. Reilly
Ignatius J. Reilly
2 days ago

The primary of many unassailable problems with this design is that the airlines would allocate any extra space to hold more passengers, not provide passengers with more room.

Ineffable
Ineffable
1 day ago

You’re right. We should regulate that airlines only provide first class seats AND can’t raise their prices. Have no idea why they haven’t done that.

Cerberus
Cerberus
2 days ago

I don’t see this happening for a multitude of reasons, but this kind of thinking is partly why I haven’t flown since TSA security theater and harassment became a thing (I figure, I’ll deal with it if I’m leaving the country on a one-way ticket).

MaximillianMeen
MaximillianMeen
2 days ago

I’ve always thought the best way to comfortably cram more passengers into a plane is Tokyo coffin-style hotel rooms.

They could even go one further and make each coffin-room a detachable pod that gets dropped like bomb when you are over your destination. Could eliminate a lot of the short-hop spur flights that way. Sort of like George Jetson dropping the family off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyinD6ZDqeg

ProfPlum
ProfPlum
2 days ago

It adds a whole new meaning to the term “upper decking.”

TheBadGiftOfTheDog
TheBadGiftOfTheDog
2 days ago

“People aren’t cargo, mate.”

Kevin B Rhodes
Kevin B Rhodes
2 days ago

Sure they are, and usually conveniently self-loading cargo at that.

Ash78
Ash78
2 days ago

The only reason we aren’t cargo is the airlines would have an image problem if they charged us fairly, which is “small base fixed rate plus variable cost per pound of person and luggage”.

I like to imagine meritocracies all the time, but they never really pan out in real life.

sentinelTk
sentinelTk
2 days ago

These seats are the flying cars of airline news….pop up in the news once or twice a year. Always a couple years away. Will never happen.

Speaking of which….there was “new” flying taxi news this week! And guess what! It will be a reality in…..*checks article*….2030!

(Full disclosure….I wrote this comment without reading the flying taxi article knowing it will always be a few years away, just put the date in after the fact. It is that predictable.)

NC Miata NA
NC Miata NA
2 days ago

Why don’t the airlines just install grab bars and make people stand like those filthy train riders? Think of how many more dollars….errr…passengers could be moved per flight. New FAA regulations can easily be purchased these days. Do airline CEOs hate money or something?

Cerberus
Cerberus
2 days ago
Reply to  NC Miata NA

IIRC, Ryan Air tried to get that approved, but failed.

NC Miata NA
NC Miata NA
2 days ago
Reply to  Cerberus

Their problem was trying to get something that maximizes corporate profits over consumer safety approved by the wrong government.

Cerberus
Cerberus
2 days ago
Reply to  NC Miata NA

Yeah, now’s the time for some low-cost US carrier to get this approved, just cut a check and watch the profits rise (until they don’t and We the Public bail them out again). As a bonus, more poors who don’t fly private will be killed in each crash thanks to the gutted ATC.

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