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Ac-cen-tu-ate The Positive: 1983 Plymouth Turismo vs 1989 Dodge Daytona

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Good morning! Today, I’m setting a challenge for you all. I can literally hear the groans of disappointment from the photos, but just sit tight; we’re going to play a little game. But before I explain what we’re doing, let’s look at yesterday’s foregone conclusion:

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Now, I want to point something out about those results, and it kind of leads into today’s pairing. The idea here is not, as some of you seem to think, to feature practical, desirable, or even reasonable cars. The idea is to get you to click, and read, and discuss, and vote. And by that measure, that Seville was wildly successful. I knew it was going to lose by a landslide, but how often do you see one for sale? How could I not write about it? Cars you love to hate are cars you love to talk about, and I’m going to take advantage of that whenever I can.

Today, I have two cars that I know are unpopular around here. Both are from the same seller, part of a property cleanup effort. Both are dirt-cheap. Both, ostensibly, run, at least enough to move onto a trailer. And both are cars I legitimately, unapologetically, unironically like. In fact, I have model kits of both of them in my stash:

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But I don’t want you to just hate on them. That’s easy; anybody can do that. It takes a true love of automobiles to find something positive to say about some cars. So here’s what I challenge you all to do today: Find one thing you genuinely like about one of these cars. Find a reason, however insignificant, to vote for one of them. This is purely a thought experiment; no money is on the line, and you don’t have to drive one of these to work tomorrow. All I want is a positive comment, something that you think is cool about one or the other of these cars. That’s not too much to ask, is it? Let’s take a look at them.

1983 Plymouth Turismo 2.2 – $800

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Engine/drivetrain: 2.2 liter overhead cam inline 4, five-speed manual, FWD

Location: Ridgefield, WA

Odometer reading: 135,000 miles

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Runs/drives? Allegedly will run if you put a battery in it

The two-door variant of the Chrysler L-body was a neat little car. Sure, it wasn’t very powerful (at least until Carroll Shelby got his hands on it), and it wasn’t cool (even when Alejandro DeTomaso got dragged into it), but there’s something appealing about it, especially the early ones. They’re just cheerful little cars.

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Starting in 1982, the Dodge Omni 024 and Plymouth Horizon TC3 became the Charger and Turismo, respectively, and gained some much-needed horsepower courtesy of the K-car: the ubiquitous 2.2 liter four, fitted with a two-barrel Holley carburetor. Chrysler chose to advertise this fourteen-horsepower bump with a borderline-obnoxious graphics package, a spoiler, and a bulge in the hood. Hey, it was not a great time for performance cars; you got your jollies where you could.

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This Turismo 2.2 funnels the K-car power to the front wheels through a five-speed manual transmission, which is a good thing. With a manual, the L-body is a tossable little plaything; with an automatic, it becomes almost a punishment. The seller says this one will run if you put a battery in it, but I get the feeling that information is out of date by a good few years.

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But with its wedgey ’80s styling, happy face, and flashy orange stripes, it just calls to me. It looks like it has a bit of rust here and there, and the paint isn’t in great shape, but the inside looks all right, and the original seats are included if you want it all to match.

1989 Dodge Daytona Turbo – $800

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Engine/drivetrain: Turbocharged 2.2 liter overhead cam inline 4, three-speed automatic, FWD

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Location: Ridgefield, WA

Odometer reading: unknown (digital, no battery in car)

Runs/drives? Will run with a battery, engine knocks

The K-car rescued Chrysler, and then the minivan gave it some stability, but no one was ever going to call a Reliant or a Caravan “fun.” The Charger and Turismo were sporty, but they weren’t a match for the Mustang or Camaro. Chrysler needed a pony car. Enter the Daytona. Based on the K platform, but rocking a turbocharger and flashy fastback styling, it still wasn’t a match for the Mustang or Camaro, let’s face it. But it was good enough for Dee Dee McCall.

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This Daytona’s turbocharged 2.2 is stuck in front of an A413 Torqueflite automatic transmission. It’s not a bad automatic as automatics go, but a car like this deserves a third pedal. I used to own a Chrysler Laser, this car’s twin, with the same drivetrain, and I can tell you from experience it does take a lot of the fun out of it. This one is said to run, but it has a knock.

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The interior of this one looks pretty good, if a little dirty. Red interiors seem to be a love-it-or-hate-it thing; personally I love them, but your mileage, as always, may vary. This car’s mileage is listed as unknown; I think that’s because it has a digital instrument panel and no battery.

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Outside, it’s rougher than the Turismo, with some surface rust where the paint has been baked off. And it has the later front end, with pop-up lights, instead of the original quad rectangular lights, which personally I don’t like as well. But Daytonas of any age are getting hard to find, and this one looks save-able, and for practically pocket change.

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I fully expect a few “Those both suck, and I’m not playing” comments. But I also hope that there’s something here you can find to admire. Dig deep – there’s a lot here to like, if you look closely. Find one thing about one of them, and cast your vote. Tomorrow’s cars will be more likeable, I promise.

(Image credits: Craigslist sellers)

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Stephen Walter Gossin
Stephen Walter Gossin
1 year ago

I actually want them both.

I had a ’90 dark blue Daytona and it was one of my all-time favorite cars. The styling is woefully underappreciated, subjectively speaking.

Awesome Showdown. I have to say, I very much dig your style and positive approach, Mark! It’s very refreshing.

If anyone knows of any of either of these cars for sale near Wilmington NC, please let me know.

Vic Vinegar
Vic Vinegar
1 year ago

The 2.2 Turismo is the last car my parents had before they had to succumb to family vehicles. They still speak fondly of it. So lets go Turismo.

Paint-Drinking Thundercock Harvey Park
Paint-Drinking Thundercock Harvey Park
1 year ago

Ask people to say something nice = epic 4+ pages of comments.

Snark doesn’t sell as well as kindness!

Paint-Drinking Thundercock Harvey Park
Paint-Drinking Thundercock Harvey Park
1 year ago

There’s a lot to like here.

* they both have that badass 1980s look
* the red interior positively fucks
* retro factory decals

So I unironically like these.

That being said, I’d rather walk 100 miles barefoot through a field of shredded legos and bhut jolokias than drive a 1980s Mopar after what mine did to my stress levels and bank account.

It'll buff out
It'll buff out
1 year ago

Positive comment about the Turismo, as requested….It’s not nearly as ugly as the Omni it is based on.

Oh, wait. Looking again, it has a five speed, and three pedals. That and two (three) doors, and cool 80s tape stripes. If the cassette deck works, I’m in!

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Timothy Swanson
Timothy Swanson
1 year ago

Stick shift versus bordello red interior…tough choice.

SonOfLP500
SonOfLP500
1 year ago

Loving how the C-pillar of the Turismo perfectly plants the rear wheel in side-view.
Delete the D-pillar and it makes a great wedged 3-box.

05LGT
05LGT
1 year ago

One thing: The (unintentionally?) ironic go fast Turismo stripes are very much my jam.
It won my vote too, because stripes, clutch, and hatch make it cool, fun, and useful. If I didn’t prefer the Turismo so much, it wouldn’t break my spirit to pick the Daytona against something else. Back when these were new I knew a lady who had one with the red velour and hers was an automatic and … while it was slow there’s a lot of good memories from then.

Brockett Hudson
Brockett Hudson
1 year ago

As others have said, the Turismo is actually a pretty good looking car, particularly by the unbelievably low standards of the early 80s. Relatively clean lines, decent proportions and cool graphics (again, by the standards of the era). Plus an M5 and a not-completely gross interior… if I were in the market for an $800 hooptie, I’d be a buyer.

Here4thecars
Here4thecars
1 year ago

I actually like the lines of the Turismo, and the graphics are rocking a cool 80’s vibe. Plus, manual and a hatchback!

Dodsworth
Dodsworth
1 year ago

I’ll take the Turismo as I like the go cart look. I thought they looked good new and I still do. Also, it’s not a turbo. Turbos were terribly unreliable then. I bought a new 1984 Daytona Turbo Z against the advice of everyone in the free world. That car rewarded my independent thinking by laughing in my face and kicking me in the nads. I come by my white hot hatred honestly and I will not be denied.

It'll buff out
It'll buff out
1 year ago
Reply to  Dodsworth

COTD, right there; I bought a new 1984 Daytona Turbo Z against the advice of everyone in the free world. That car rewarded my independent thinking by laughing in my face and kicking me in the nads. I come by my white hot hatred honestly and I will not be denied.

Cargeek!
Cargeek!
1 year ago

Okay:
The Plymouth has racing strips which are always cool and give it at least five extra HP!

The Dodge has pop up headlights… need I say more!

Also they cars… sort of.

Mr Sarcastic
Mr Sarcastic
1 year ago

I would gladly drive either as a winter beater. The 1st car i ever sold as a car salesman was a Daytona and i liked them. This looks really bad and auto and clunk so i would buy the tourismo.

Paint-Drinking Thundercock Harvey Park
Paint-Drinking Thundercock Harvey Park
1 year ago
Reply to  Mr Sarcastic

“So what will it take to have you drive this Daytona home today?”

“A battery, maybe”

Slow Joe Crow
Slow Joe Crow
1 year ago

Turismo FTW, it’s a stick and I find them more attractive than the larger Daytona. The Daytona is slush box and rattler. Bonus points being PNW cars and less rusty than Midwest cars.

Luxobarge
Luxobarge
1 year ago

I’m sorry, I can’t take the Plymouth Turismo seriously. “Gran Turismo” means “grand touring” in Italian, but plain “Turismo” translates to…”tourism.” Go home, Iacocca, you’re drunk.

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Kevin B
Kevin B
1 year ago

Bought an ’84 Turismo 2.2 new. It was an absolute piece of shit from the start.

The Car Accumulator
The Car Accumulator
1 year ago

Positive things to say?
The Daytona is easily recyclable.
The Turismo, if it runs, beats walking.

Philip Dunlop
Philip Dunlop
1 year ago

These are not the kinds of car we got in Europe very much, so on looks alone, they represent something a bit different. So that’s my “something positive”. I’m sure someone more mechanically minded than I could make something fun out of these, but with the amount of parts needed and this being the wrong side of the Atlantic, it wouldn’t really be practical beyond a Binky-esque rehash.

Paint-Drinking Thundercock Harvey Park
Paint-Drinking Thundercock Harvey Park
1 year ago
Reply to  Philip Dunlop

Believe me, when it comes to 1980s Mopar, you’re absolutely on the right side of the ocean. Your blood pressure and bank account will be grateful.

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Philip Dunlop
Philip Dunlop
1 year ago

That’s not so bad. I tend to prefer Mopars from previous decades anyway.

Justin Short
Justin Short
1 year ago

Turismo, hands down, manual + n.a., and then there’s experience friend had one almost identical in was so much fun compared to the charger 2.2 with the automatic !

Daytona, no way, 1989 electronics, and a knock, + sis had one, at best it was meh!

Both are from the same seller as well, and they don’t seem knowledgeable, but good luck, looks like the old man tried to save them all

Stacks
Stacks
1 year ago

Easy choice for me, I’ll take the Plymouth. I like the looks, and I can’t remember the last time I saw a Plymouth ANYTHING on the road, unless maybe an old Voyager being used as a work truck.

MATTinMKE
MATTinMKE
1 year ago
Reply to  Stacks

I saw a yellow Prowler twice this week. It was the same car, sitting in the same spot. It looked clean, but I don’t think it’s moved in a while.

Black Peter
Black Peter
1 year ago

But I don’t want you to just hate on them. That’s easy; anybody can do that.

I find that the most annoying comment type here; “Neither” “They are both over priced”. Wow what insight, amazing how you were able to distill so many varied ideas concepts, and automotive analysis into one simple stupid comment. Yeah I said stupid, this column isn’t required reading, comments aren’t required either. If I don’t have a preference, or a comment I just don’t vote, or don’t comment. Way easier to keep your boring, inane, negative comments to yourself and save the server space.

Black Peter
Black Peter
1 year ago

I had an 80’s Laser Stop laughing!! It was one of the most comfortable cars I owned and I have a lot of fond memories cruising in it. It would happily do triple digits, fit 4 people, if you had to, and the big rear hatch made for a great stereo set up. So I’m all in on the Daytona, even if I have to install some other drivetrain.

JDE
JDE
1 year ago

eww, neither is the correct response, they would have to pay me to haul those off to be crushed. I do kind of dig the stripes though, if I had to keep one and did not have to be the one to make it go again.

DDayJ
DDayJ
1 year ago

I like both of them! I’ll take the Turismo since it’s manual and may have a better shot at getting back on the road.

Manwich Sandwich
Manwich Sandwich
1 year ago

This Turismo 2.2 funnels the K-car power to the front wheels through a five-speed manual”

No… the Turismo is not a K-car. It’s an L-car.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_L_platform

And my vote goes to the Turismo for the manual. I was leaning to the Daytona, but the slushbox and ‘knocking engine’ (meaning it might need an engine rebuild) swayed me.

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