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An Actual, Decent Used Car: Mazda 6 vs Lincoln LS vs Mazda 5 vs Ford Escape

Sbsd 11 15 2024
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Good morning! Well, here they are: four reasonably practical, affordable cars in good condition. In this column. I know; I’m as surprised as you are. Now we’re going to pit them against each other in a battle for shitbox supremacy.

Yesterday’s crossovers were pretty evenly matched, and the vote was close, as I expected. But in the end, the Escape Hybrid took home more votes, earning it a place in today’s Showdown. Personally, I think I’d pick the Escape as well, but I’d rather have it in the color of the Toyota.

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I’m surprised at how many of you voted against the Escape strictly because it’s a hybrid, over fears of battery degeneration. It’s a concern, granted, but since the seller says it’s still getting well over 30 miles per gallon, I personally wouldn’t be too worried about it. It does raise the question of how willing shadetree mechanics are going to be to tackle the new technology as it appears. I know some old-school mechanics who still won’t touch a car with fuel injection. Me, I’ll take apart anything that I’ve got proper tools for, if it needs fixing.

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When I first had this idea of a week-long search for the best possible used car, I fully expected it would come down to the usual suspects: Corolla, Camry, Accord, that sort of thing. But I didn’t find any Hondas at all that I wanted to feature, and the two Toyotas for the week lost. In their place we have three Mazda MZR engines and a Jaguar V8, or two sedans, a minivan, and an SUV, or two sticks and two automatics, depending on how you want to divide them up. Goes to show you never can tell, I guess.

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What we don’t have is any color. White, silver, and dark gray; that’s what we ended up with. So, just to make things a little more interesting, I want you to not only vote for the car you think is the best deal, but in the comments, also tell me what color you would repaint it. Let’s recap our choices.

2005 Mazda 6i

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The case for it: It’s a clean-as-a-whistle example of a car that’s not only reliable and efficient, but also fun to drive. It’s got a good level of equipment, a reasonable number of miles, and someone sprang for good-quality window tint for it.

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The case against it: Nothing really, unless you can’t or won’t drive a stick.

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2001 Lincoln LS V8

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The case for it: It has a V8, a well-tuned chassis, rear-wheel-drive, and a nice European luxury feel. It has had a ton of maintenance work done recently, and the seller is confident enough in it to use it as their current daily driver.

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The case against it: It’s historically about as reliable as Use Your Illusion-era Axl Rose. Sometimes you get a stellar performance; sometimes you get a temper tantrum. Also, some nitwit painted the wheels black.

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The case for it: It’s a minivan with a six-speed stick. It also happens to look good, and be quite reliable. And that swoopy design detail down the side looks cool.

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The case against it: It’s a Mazda for sale in Wisconsin. There’s a good chance at least some portion of the undercarriage resembles Swiss cheese, even though the ad doesn’t mention rust.

2005 Ford Escape Hybrid

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The case for it: You’re not likely to find anything this cheap and useful that gets better gas mileage than this. It’s also known to be very reliable, and this one has been well cared for, from the sounds of it.

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The case against it: It has a rebuilt title, if that matters to you, from an accident that occurred years ago. And the long-term durability of the hybrid battery is a bit of an unknown factor.

Four grand, as much as I hate to admit it, is pretty much the floor for a decent used car these days. You can find running cars for cheaper, but you’ll have to do some digging, and probably some repairs as well. If you want to just drive off and feel confident, this is about as cheap as you’ll find. But the good news is they’re all pretty nice cars, and there’s a little bit of fun to be had, as well.

I’m not sure what next week will bring, but I’m thinking it’ll be another week-long search – maybe for the best winter project car we can find. For now, though, we’re all about the daily drivers. Which one of these strikes you as the best deal?

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Gubbin
Gubbin
1 month ago

I thought “Mazda 6” as soon as I saw the headline but voted Ford Escape bcuz wife and haybales and dogs.

A good pearl red would look nice with the grey cladding/interior, nothing too flashy or bright, with the toughest clearcoat I can get.

Dan Roth
Dan Roth
1 month ago

There can only be one choice, and that’s the Mazda 6 sedan.

Remember, it’s significantly the same thing as a contemporary Ford Fusion. The problems with the other three are too much to overcome

Lincoln LS: endless shit will break. It will be expensive to fix. If you can even get parts. They did a fantastic job replicating the premium Euro ownership experience, right down to the fourth owner nightmares. Avoid.

Escape Hybrid: I liked these things, but a rebuilt title on a first-gen Escape is a bunch of red flags. Also, these things rust PRODIGIOUSLY in the rear wheelhouses. Terminal to the structure. Very expensive and time consuming fix. Avoid. They’re also unrefined AF.

Mazda 5: What kind of failures are your favorite? Engine? Transmission? Rust through? Congratulations, this will satisy all types. Avoid.

Oh, and the color to paint the vehicle is, of course, Volkswagen L64K Zambezi Green.

Clark B
Clark B
1 month ago

I really wanted to vote for the Mazda6. But, my fiancee owned its platform mate, a 2009 Fusion, for the first few years we were together. That car HATED me. By the time it hit 150k miles it started degrading quickly, with misfires, blown CV joints, bad tie rod ends and control arm bushings. It also leaked (and burned) oil, as well as needing new valve cover gaskets. There was a power steering fluid leak, the antenna leaked water down into the headliner, and the rear defroster stopped working. The sunroof broke and I had to seal it with caulk. The dashboard even started warping in places. I know a lot of people have had good luck with that platform, and that it was well reviewed when it came out. It’s not even that bad to drive. But it caused us nothing but headaches. He replaced it with a Mazda3 hatch, so today I’m going with the Mazda5.

Last edited 1 month ago by Clark B
MATTinMKE
MATTinMKE
1 month ago

Went with the 5. I’m thinking about it in a deep red. Maybe deeper than the ubiquitous Mazda red.

Vic Vinegar
Vic Vinegar
1 month ago

Assuming it isn’t ready to turn to red dust underneath, Mazda 5. Always loved the packaging on these. Just big enough. Even if it wasn’t a MT, I’d probably go M5.

MaximillianMeen
MaximillianMeen
1 month ago

The M6 (if the Teslastans can call a Model 3 and M3, I’m calling the Mazda6 an M6!) in Infiniti’s Liquid Copper.

Dogisbadob
Dogisbadob
1 month ago

Either the 5 or the 6. The 6 is in a better location in regards to rust, but of course the 5 is more practical.

If the 5 isn’t too bad underneath, then it’s the pick.

Mall Explorer
Mall Explorer
1 month ago

Look, an all-Ford sweep! 🙂 Decent enough used cars without a Toyota/Honda tax, that makes sense.

In terms of practicality as a used *car*, nothing beats the practicality of something with a hatch. Out of these the salvage title Escape is out, so that leaves the Mazda 5, potential Swiss cheese notwithstanding.

Which one of you voted for a Jaguar-engined Lincoln as a decent used car?!

Musicman27
Musicman27
1 month ago
Reply to  Mall Explorer

As a general Ford hater, this pains me greatly. But I have to choose, so I chose the Mazda 6.

Rad Barchetta
Rad Barchetta
1 month ago
Reply to  Mall Explorer

I challenge your all-Ford assertion.

Mall Explorer
Mall Explorer
1 month ago
Reply to  Rad Barchetta

a Ford CUV (with Mazda 626 underpinnings), a Mazda-badged 1st gen Focus Grand C-Max (complete with FoMoCo badged brake calipers), a Ford-era Mazda6 (largely related to the Fusion), and a PAG-era Lincoln-badged Jag (eventually becoming a Mustang with modifications).

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Musicman27
Musicman27
1 month ago
Reply to  Rad Barchetta

I regularily talk to a “Master Diagnostic Mechanic”, and the one company he hates the most is Ford. He has given me too many reasons to count from a ridiculous amount of multiple sized bolts to hold on a door panel, to highly sus company antics (such as the F-series originaly being 1LB over the “you must have emessions equipment” maximum weight on purpose). He has shown me that Ford is crap and generaly just bad.

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Rad Barchetta
Rad Barchetta
1 month ago

I think the 6 is the winner, but I wouldn’t fault anyone for picking the 5 or the Escape either. From a certain point of view, our choices are 3 Mazdas and a Jaguar.

Mr E
Mr E
1 month ago

Most sensible? Mazda6.

I think I’d still buy the LS, though.

Nicholas Nolan
Nicholas Nolan
1 month ago

I adored my Mazda 6 of the same year. They took it away when I lost everything in the 2008 nonsense, and if it was on the right coast I’d actually buy it.

Speedway Sammy
Speedway Sammy
1 month ago

Those Escape hybrids got their yellow taxi trials on the harsh streets of NYC and came out winners. So from a pure durability standpoint, they’ve got the right stuff.
Not nearly as much fun to drive as the stickshift minivan though….

Last edited 1 month ago by Speedway Sammy
Angry Bob
Angry Bob
1 month ago
Reply to  Speedway Sammy

I ran mine to 250k miles and not a single problem from the hybrid drive. Or the brake controller, which is the really scary component – $12k plus labor.

Most reliable vehicle I’ve ever owned. Got my vote – I’d love to have another one.

FrontWillDrive
FrontWillDrive
1 month ago

I picked the 5 because I have enough four door cars, an MPV would be practical and still sort of fun because it’s a manual Mazda. Honestly, I wouldn’t change the color, the grey seems to have a slight hint of blue which makes a difference for me. But were I to be forced to choose a new color, I would find a nice blue of some sort.

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
1 month ago

Mazda 5 in deep metallic green.

Geoff Buchholz
Geoff Buchholz
1 month ago
Reply to  Canopysaurus

Jinx!

Geoff Buchholz
Geoff Buchholz
1 month ago

The Mazda6 will win, and should win. As for the color: off it goes to Maaco for its new color: British Racing Green.

Six Inna Row Makes it Go
Six Inna Row Makes it Go
1 month ago
Reply to  Geoff Buchholz

Same! Though I would also add the white racing stripe over the top. It’s kind of silly, but it’s my kind of silly.

Fiji ST
Fiji ST
1 month ago

Can we make this multiple choice since all of these would make for a good two-car garage type of thing?

ExAutoJourno
ExAutoJourno
1 month ago

This was a roughie. I’ve driven all the contenders, liked them all, but it finally boils down to the third pedal in the Mazda6.

The Mazda5 would be a second choice, but if the LS had proper wheels (yeah, I’ve painted wheels before, and it’s no biggie) and a better history of reliability, I’d prefer it. All day.

Jason Roth
Jason Roth
1 month ago
Reply to  ExAutoJourno

There was a part of me that liked the idea of a luxury cruiser, but IMO that design has aged like milk.

Icouldntfindaclevername
Icouldntfindaclevername
1 month ago

I’ll take the Mazda 6i and paint it Velocity Red Pearl

StillNotATony
StillNotATony
1 month ago

It’s the Mazda6. It was always the Mazda6.

Tim Beamer
Tim Beamer
1 month ago

I’ll take the Mazda 6. But I want it repainted in Ford’s Cyber Orange to match my Bronco.

Comet_65cali
Comet_65cali
1 month ago

Six-speed Mazda5 is actually the only car I would honestly spend actual money on.

Michael Beranek
Michael Beranek
1 month ago

This is too easy, there’s no contest.

Jason Roth
Jason Roth
1 month ago

The 6 is an easy choice. I voted for the 5 the other day, but in truth I no longer want one after my buddy bailed on his. Whereas that 6 is just great, or at least would be in… a deep blue-green? Like my old Jetta’s Baltic Green. Or actually, the color of that ’65 Mustang from last week, a shade or three lighter.

GreatFallsGreen
GreatFallsGreen
1 month ago
Reply to  Jason Roth

I was thinking of other Mazda colors to throw on the 6, Phantom Blue Mica from the same era is a bit bluer of a blue-green but I think would fit well. They offered it on at least the 3/5/RX-8 but not the 6 here, I assume because our 6 was US-built so they didn’t carry it at the plant.

Jason Roth
Jason Roth
1 month ago

Oh yeah, that would work. I had a Blue-Green Saturn (plus that Jetta), and my mom had a Laser in 1991 Teal, so that’s right up my alley.

GreatFallsGreen
GreatFallsGreen
1 month ago
Reply to  Jason Roth

Blue-green Saturns and green VWs unite! (94 SC2 and 18 GTI)

Jason Roth
Jason Roth
27 days ago

Nice!

I had a ’93 SL2, ’01 Jetta.

Tacofan
Tacofan
1 month ago

Mazda 6 painted in Soul Red Crystal

CatMan
CatMan
1 month ago
Reply to  Tacofan

These are the two correct choices

Alexk98
Alexk98
1 month ago

A manual Mazda 5 will always have my heart

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