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Analog Dashes Are Boring: 1986 Chrysler LeBaron GTS vs 1989 Pontiac Grand Prix

Sbsd 7 18 2024
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Good morning! Today’s cars were chosen for one reason only: their dashboards. Both are the “fancy” versions of their respective lines, and back in the late ’80s, that meant you got a digital dash. Which is the better car in which to watch those bar graphs? We’ll find out.

Yesterday, We looked at a couple of beat-up little commuter cars, and it’s really no surprise that the less-damaged one won, even though it was more expensive. That Civic would be the right choice if not for the rear-ending, but that’s a hard hit. Chances are it doesn’t track straight anymore.

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And the Festiva looks like it could be fun anyway. I’ve always liked tiny lightweight cars like that; they’re never going to be fast, but they don’t need to be. In fact, you probably don’t want them to be, as wispy as they are. When your car is built like a cookie tin, it’s best to keep the speeds sane.

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Now then: Even if you were somehow unfamiliar with today’s cars, you’d know immediately what era they were from. I don’t think you can actually get more ’80s than these two. Turbocharged engine? Yep, we’ve got one. Monochromatic wheels? Those too. Cassette decks with a thousand tiny buttons? Check and check. Digital dashboards? You bet. And one of them was a prize in a soft drink giveaway, which I think makes us winners at ’80s car bingo. Let’s check them out.

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1986 Chrysler LeBaron GTS Premium – $2,500

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Engine/drivetrain: Turbocharged 2.2-liter overhead cam inline 4, three-speed automatic, FWD

Location: Minneapolis, MN

Odometer reading: 97,000 miles

Operational status: Runs and drives well

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One of the complaints leveled at the Chrysler K-based cars back in the 1980s is that they all looked the same. The difference between a Chrysler and a Plymouth and a Dodge was often just some trim and badges. And they all had the same formal upright rear window design, because Lee Iacocca wanted it that way. It wasn’t until 1985 that Chrysler’s designers were allowed to mess with the formula and release this variant: the Chrysler LeBaron GTS and Dodge Lancer. These were five-door hatchbacks, meant to be a little fancier and sportier than your average Aries or Caravelle.

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This is the Premium model of the GTS, with all the bells and whistles that entails. This one has cloth seats instead of leather, and they look to be in pretty good shape. Yes, it could use a good shampooing. Yes, that’s the rearview mirror sitting in the passenger’s seat, but that just needs to be glued back on; it happens to a lot of cars. No, I don’t know what’s in the plastic bag. Jeez, you ask a lot of questions.

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You could get the GTS with or without a turbo; this one has it. You could also get it with either a five-speed manual or a three-speed automatic; this one is unfortunately an automatic. It runs and drives just fine, according to the seller, who recently pulled it out of storage where it sat for ten years. There seem to be a lot of long-slumbering ’80s cars coming out of the woodwork recently; I suppose Radwood has something to do with that. The question is, why were they put in storage to begin with?

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It’s in reasonably good shape, but I think the seller is talking it up a bit in the ad. The paint is shiny, but I do see some rust along the rockers. There’s a scuff in the corner of the bumper, exposing the yellow plastic underneath. And obviously the struts holding up the hatch are shot; hence the broomstick.

1989 Pontiac Grand Prix SE – $1,500

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Engine/drivetrain: 3.1-liter overhead valve V6, four-speed automatic, FWD

Location: Madison, IN

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Odometer reading: 67,000 miles

Operational status: Runs and drives well

Younger readers might not remember the “Pepsi Challenge,” or the “cola wars” that followed. Coca-Cola claimed to be “The Real Thing,” but then changed their formula in 1985 to be more like Pepsi. It backfired; New Coke was a flop, and Coke ended up walking back the decision. Pepsi, meanwhile, tried to convince us that they were the “Choice Of A New Generation,” with elaborate commercials featuring various pop stars. Both brands had sweepstakes and giveaways all the time, with fabulous prizes. In 1989, Pepsi gave away five hundred brand-new Pontiac Grand Prix coupes in a sweepstakes – and this is one of those cars.

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Apart from the stripes and graphics, and the fact that it only cost a can of soda, the Pepsi Special Edition is a standard-issue Grand Prix SE, which is not a bad thing. GM’s W-body coupes were pretty nice cars for their day. It’s powered by the ubiquitous 3.1 liter V6 and an overdrive automatic. This one runs and drives well, and it should, with only 67,000 miles on the odometer.

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That odometer is, of course, digital, but Pontiac’s approach to digital gauges didn’t extend to the tachometer or accessory gauges; those are still dials. Pontiac experimented with a heads-up display around this time, but I think that was only available in the Bonneville, not the Grand Prix. It seems to run well, but the seller’s claim that “everything works as it should” is a bit overshadowed by the check-engine light being on. It’s probably minor, but it’s not nothing.

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I get the feeling that this car has such low miles because the original owner – the contest winner – probably thought it was a future collectible. And maybe it is, to the right person. But sadly, it’s still a late-80s GM car, painted white, which means it’s losing paint at an alarming rate, and having it repainted would mean losing those “original” Pepsi decals. What a dilemma.

Both of the sellers of these cars claim they are something special, and they both are a bit rare these days. But that has more to do with three and a half intervening decades than any sort of inherent specialness. As they stand, they’re both functional used cars, for cheap prices, and that is enough. No need to try to talk them up more than that, so I won’t. Which one grabs you?

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Kerc
Kerc
1 month ago

I was around 17 when this era of GM cars went into production, and they looked like the future. Low, sleek, with some crazy styling (remember the Regal with its shark-like waterfall grille, and the Cutlass with the wrap-around greenhouse?), and all those interior buttons. I remember really liking those chiclet GM controls!

I wanted my dad to get himself the GP, but he really couldn’t afford it.

Anyway, vote went for the Grand Prix. Those Chrysler models have dowdy proportions and look nerdy as hell.

Timothy Swanson
Timothy Swanson
1 month ago

I was prepared to vote for the Pontiac – I wanted one like that when I was a kid. But I want to know what that check engine light is. K Cars do nothing for me. Terminally boring and old lady vibe from the New Yorker in particular. So…neither

Freelivin2713
Freelivin2713
1 month ago

I like that Grand Prix…I really miss Pontiac! I wonder if the CE light is on only because it turns on when you turn the key to on or accessories and then turns off? I wasn’t aware that the LeBaron came in a hatch version- interesting…I wonder if it was owned by Jon Voight? Ha ha…that one was actually an ’83

MikuhlBrian
MikuhlBrian
2 months ago

Even though the Lebaron GTS didn’t look like every other K-car derivative out there because it was a 5-door hatch and ddin’t have the formal roofline, it still followed the same formula that you called out… “The difference between a Chrysler and a Plymouth and a Dodge was often just some trim and badges. “

The difference between the Lebaron GTS and the Lancer were the grille, badges, and taillights.

XLEJim700
XLEJim700
2 months ago

Me? I’ll take the turbo hatchback and think of a Saab 900.

Imagination will set you free.

Vic Vinegar
Vic Vinegar
2 months ago

Tough call because I’m guessing the seats under those covers on the GP are trashed. It is a $1500 car. Only 67k miles, so who knows how you’d trash those seats, but have to believe they are.

The Lebaron really only offers its surprisingly good condition for a forgotten K-car.

Eh, still the Pepsi car I guess. Although as someone else mentioned, if i am making room for a Grand Prix of this generation, it is the GTP with the mesh wheels. Gold please.

Cam.man67
Cam.man67
2 months ago

Honestly surprised by the results…the Lebaron is an easy choice for me in all its turbo brown mediocrity.

Max Headbolts
Max Headbolts
2 months ago

I voted Pontiac, I have a strange urge to slam it on some daytons, stuff 7000 watts of stereo in it, and a hundred feet of underglow like it’s 1994. Wouldn’t even fix the paint.

JDE
JDE
2 months ago

the Hatch 4 door is something I completely ignored or have forgotten about, but strangely intrigues me. still it is not worth more because of it. That definitely looks like the retired old lady car that it should be and likely was squirreled away after she passed and then it was passed over by all the grandchildren until it was decided to try to sell it instead.

Grey alien in a beige sedan
Grey alien in a beige sedan
2 months ago

Was going to go for the LeBaron… but there’s three problems here:

  1. It’s not a convertible
  2. It’s not blue
  3. It doesn’t have a #1 SON plate on the front.
Cyko9
Cyko9
2 months ago

The check engine light is worrisome, but I’ve got to vote for the Pepsi Grand Prix. Even if it weren’t actually a contest prize, cheesy stickers are getting me this week. I’m not actually crazy about the hatchback design on the Lebaron, but it’s okay otherwise. For the price though? Pontiac all the way!

TheDrunkenWrench
TheDrunkenWrench
2 months ago

She’s trading her MG for a white chrysler LeBaron Pontiac Grand Prix.

I’m taking the GM. Normally I’m all for turbo hatches, but man this has to be the worst choice.

Manwich Sandwich
Manwich Sandwich
2 months ago

I voted for the LeBaron since it seems to be in better overall condition and I know the K-related cars are fairly easy to work on.

And I remember that the GM W-cars had a lot of engineering deficiencies and stupid design decisions… like a really stupid door latch design, issues with the suspension and other stuff.

Plus when it comes to FWD cars, a transverse inline 4 is almost always way easier to work on than a transverse V6.

Man With A Reliable Jeep
Man With A Reliable Jeep
2 months ago

Pepsi is better with pizza, Coke is better with burgers. I’ve solved the debate – you’re all welcome.

Also, I chose the Chrysler because it looks more comfortable and the turbo is probably more fun to drive. Probably.

Comet_65cali
Comet_65cali
2 months ago

The problem with the Pontiac is that the GTP exists in its basket weaved wheeled, bodkit wearing glory. I would be dissappointed.

Hatchback Lebaron is perfect for hauling stuff and not caring too much.

Uncle Cholmondeley
Uncle Cholmondeley
2 months ago

Pepsi is apparently now the RC of colas:

Dr Pepper Ties Pepsi as America’s No. 2 Soda
As a stalwart RC drinker during the cola wars, I chose the Pontiac.

FrontWillDrive
FrontWillDrive
2 months ago

As cool as the Chrysler is, and it’s in such nice shape, I’d take the Pontiac, it would be a good match for the cars I have now and I have always liked them a lot, and I don’t own anything perfect anyway.

Last edited 2 months ago by FrontWillDrive
EastbayLoc
EastbayLoc
2 months ago

I’ll take the Pontiac. For driving excitement? I don’t want an 80’s Lebaron in whatever color that is. Had friends who drove these in high school and they sucked and broke down a lot. Broom hatch be damned. Although, what’s in the mystery bag. A fryer chicken? A human head?

The Pontiac is $1K less so I guess that’s the choice. It is just a thousand less for 80’s suckiness. Did RC or C&C cola ever have car giveaways? How about Jolt?

Harvey Firebirdman
Harvey Firebirdman
2 months ago

I voted lebaron even though I wanted to vote the Pontiac but that Pontiac is so rough shape but what you get for 1500 hah

Last edited 2 months ago by Harvey Firebirdman
Jim King
Jim King
2 months ago

I’ll take the turbo hatchback Chrysler. I had a co-worker who had an identical Pontiac and I don’t want to be reminded of that jerk.

MY LEG!
MY LEG!
2 months ago

gimme the big prick or whatchamacallit

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
2 months ago

Grand Prix literally means “grand prize,” so I guess that’s appropriate for a cola war contest award. A little Head and Shoulders should fix that paint flaking problem right up.

Dogisbadob
Dogisbadob
2 months ago

The Lebaron has a cooler dash, 4 doors, the hatchback, and a 4-cylinder that’s easier to work on than a transverse V6

StillNotATony
StillNotATony
2 months ago

I’m a 100% Coke drinker, so I had to go LeBaron.

Tim Cougar
Tim Cougar
2 months ago

I’m usually a Chrysler fan, but our worst neighbor had a LeBaron GTS and that’s soured me on the model.

I do love color-matched wheels and gimmicky special editions, though, so I’ll take the Pepsiac. If anything, I wish it were more gimmicky. If only it had a center console cooler…

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