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Buy In Bulk And Save: Two 1989 Chrysler TCs vs Two 1990 Nissan Paos

Sbsd 8 23 2024
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Good morning! It’s Friday, which means it’s time for something special, and today we’re seeing double, with two pairs of cars offered for sale. There’s a surprising amount of similarity between the pairs, as well: colors, equipment, and conditions all line up almost too well. It’s like they were tailor-made for a showdown.

Yesterday’s cars weren’t so nice, but they amassed a lot of comments and sparked some good discussions, and that’s exactly what they were supposed to do. The Volkswagen “won,” but most of you weren’t terribly happy with either choice.

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I think I would have to drive them both to see which one I preferred. The VW feels like a more honest deal, and a dealer that won’t tell you anything about a car and just says “As is – no warranty” doesn’t inspire much confidence in that Dodge. My gut feeling says VW, but the proof is in the driving.

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There’s an old joke about Jaguar automobiles that you shouldn’t buy one unless you’re wealthy enough to afford two, so you can drive one while the other is broken. But it’s not uncommon for enthusiasts to own more than one of the same car, no matter what they are; you like what you like, and if you already have one and a “better” one comes along, what are you supposed to do, ignore it? Of course not.

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And I’m just as bad, albeit on a smaller scale. Right now on my hobby workbench are two Futaba FX-10 RC buggies that I’m restoring at the same time: one stock, and one modified. One was meant to be a “parts car,” but you know how that goes.

These two pairs of cars can put you ahead of the game from the start. Both are pairs of similarly-equipped, rare vehicles in nice condition, the perfect start to a collection. Let’s check them out.

Two 1989 Chryslers TC By Maserati – $4,500

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Engine/drivetrain: Turbocharged 2.2-liter overhead cam inline 4, three-speed automatic, FWD

Location: Redmond, WA

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Odometer readings: unknown

Operational statuses: Both run and drive but need a little work

The Chrysler TC by Maserati is no stranger to us here on Shitbox Showdown, of course. If memory serves, Thomas featured one in the very first Showdown, the day before I took over. And we’ve looked at a couple of them since. These Italian-built LeBarons with delusions of grandeur can often be found for sale cheap. They seem like they should be more collectible than they are, but for some reason, they have never come into their own.

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These two TCs came from an estate sale, and are being offered either as a package deal or individually. Both of them are said to run and drive, but are in need of a little tinkering before they’re truly roadworthy. That seems to be the case with a lot of estate-sale cars; maintenance gets deferred as more important concerns take over. That’s as it should be, of course, but one would hope that the cars find new homes that will care for them as much as their previous owners did. These cars come with shop manuals and some spare parts to get you started.

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As 1989 models, both of these cars are powered by Chrysler’s 2.2 liter Turbo II four-cylinder, coupled to a Torqueflite automatic. It’s not the coolest powertrain combination offered in the TC; that would be the rare 16-valve twin-cam turbo four, which came with a five-speed manual. But they only made 500 of those, and you won’t find one this cheap. The Turbo II is better if you actually want to enjoy the cars anyway, because you can actually get parts for it.

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The interior of these cars is the most Maserati thing about them. Every surface is covered in leather or wood, and it’s way more comfortable than any old LeBaron ever was. They’re both in pretty good shape, though the yellow car seems to have a little more wear inside. It may have more miles on it. One important difference between them is that the red car has air conditioning, while the yellow one does not.

Two 1990 Nissans Pao – $7,200

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Engine/drivetrain: 1.0 liter overhead cam inline 4, three-speed automatic, FWD

Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada

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Odometer readings: 126,000 kilometers and 115,000 kilometers

Operational statuses: Both start and run, haven’t been driven in a while, need some work

The Nissan Pao needs no introduction around here, of course. The one and only Jason Torchinsky has one that he loves, and drives the hell out of, no matter how many deer he hits with it. The Pao is one of the legendary “Pike Factory” cars, along with the Be-1, Figaro, and S-Cargo, four charming and adorable little runabouts built by Nissan back when they were a force to be reckoned with instead of a punchline. These cars were never sold in the US, but quite a few of them have found their way across the Pacific since they aged out of the 25-year import embargo.

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These two Paos were brought over by an importer in British Columbia. Plans have changed, the dealership is moving in a new direction, and the Paos have to go, and pretty cheaply, actually. It sounds like both of them needed some work when they were imported. They both run, but start hard, and the seller says they’ll both need some suspension work and other miscellaneous tinkering.

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Unlike Jason’s Pao, these two are both equipped with automatic transmissions. Automatics are common in Japan from what I hear, especially in small city cars like these, so it’s not surprising. It does take some of the fun out of driving them, but it does nothing to decrease their charm. I just love the minimalist interior of these things. And they both have the big canvas sunroof, which is cool as hell. The red (sorry, “terracotta”) one’s top leaks and needs to be replaced, but the white one is new. These are both in good shape inside, but the seller says they need a good cleaning.

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The Pao’s mechanicals, including its tiny 987 CC engine, are based on the Nissan March and Micra, which were also never sold here, but were available in Canada, so parts should be at least broadly available. The seller says that both cars have a record of their last timing belt changes, which is a good sign.

Having two of the same car makes sense if you really like them; you can mix and match parts and create one “good” one for special occasions and one “beater” to drive the snot out of. And if you have to dig into a big repair on one, you have the other car there as a reference. Of course, it means you have to have room to park two cars instead of one, but who are we kidding? If we want another car, we find room. Which one of these twosomes would you find a spot for?

(Image credits: Craigslist sellers)

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Ranwhenparked
Ranwhenparked
25 days ago

Thats a good deal, always wanted a Pao and had put down a deposit on one just at the start of the pandemic lockdown, but have been increasingly happy that purchase didn’t go through, my state is one of the ones starting to get weird with JDM cars and I honestly don’t know if I could get one plated here now. Or, if I could now, if I could renew the registration two years from now

JurassicComanche25
JurassicComanche25
25 days ago

Somebody want to go halfsies on the paos? Too bad Im on the Torch coast.

Cerberus
Cerberus
25 days ago

Not even sure I could get them registered here, but the Paos even so.

Argentine Utop
Argentine Utop
25 days ago

I’ll take the red and the terracotta for a good ironic garage.

Lockleaf
Lockleaf
25 days ago

It seems rather bizarre to market a car as uber luxury back when, and then not include AC in every one?

Anthony Henderson
Anthony Henderson
24 days ago
Reply to  Lockleaf

Huh. Should have been there originally. I think the condenser is still there

Vee
Vee
25 days ago

Pao. Because I come across a Chrysler TC by Maserati at least once every six months. This is the first time I’ve seen a Pao.

Isis
Isis
25 days ago

The K-cars for sure. At least they’re supposed to have automatics. Bonus on the turbos.

WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAthenGTIthenA4nowS5
WasGTIthenGTOthenNOVAthenGTIthenA4nowS5
25 days ago

Let’s see, two cars I don’t want or one I do. Tough…

JDE
JDE
25 days ago

Both options are Crack Pipe priced for sure. but I imagine if I were in it either way, I would take the really rare to buy in the US kei cars. I imagine if cleaned up the auto trans would actually make them easier to sell to the newly licensed Gen Z’s.

Lockleaf
Lockleaf
25 days ago
Reply to  JDE

$7200 for a pair of decent condition Paos is far from crack pipe in the actual market. I have never seen a Pao, in any condition, marked for less than $10K anywhere in the western US.

JDE
JDE
22 days ago
Reply to  Lockleaf

I saw a whole warehouse full of the in So-Cal. they were just waiting for the 25 year rule to kick in so the guy hoarding them could turn them for a profit. I think he was planning to start at 10K. I have seen them advertised for 4K or so. but they get you on the import fees. https://carfromjapan.com/cheap-used-nissan-pao-1989-for-sale-66a5b71894b65730aef21cc2

Dead Elvis, Inc.
Dead Elvis, Inc.
25 days ago
Reply to  JDE

Pike Factory cars like the Pao aren’t kei cars.

JDE
JDE
22 days ago

Por Kei? lol, they sure look Kei.

Dead Elvis, Inc.
Dead Elvis, Inc.
21 days ago
Reply to  JDE

Nope. There are both dimensional & displacement restrictions that define kei class vehicles – max 2 meters long, no more than 660cc. There’s more to it than just that, but the Pao & its siblings are a bit too big everywhere.

eta: Mercedes has probably written a treatise on kei cars, or maybe Jason has.

Last edited 21 days ago by Dead Elvis, Inc.
Along with Martin, Dutch Gunderson, Lana and Sally Decker
Along with Martin, Dutch Gunderson, Lana and Sally Decker
25 days ago

I have zero interest in JDM kink. So much so that I’d rather have the slightly warmed over Chrysler Sebrings and pocket the difference.

Bendanzig
Bendanzig
25 days ago

I gotta vote for the… Pao Pao Powerwheels, Pao Pao Powerwheels, Paoerwheels Power makes it go! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKb4PzE1IoE
I would sing this every time I drove it, and just cross my fingers the PA DMV doesn’t revoke the title. I know it isn’t a Kei car, but they may think it is.

NewBalanceExtraWide
NewBalanceExtraWide
25 days ago

Has nobody actually made the K-car vs. Kei car joke yet? I am disappoint. This is strangely difficult for me, I have a weak spot for both, but I try to live minimally and simply. Pao for me.

Dead Elvis, Inc.
Dead Elvis, Inc.
25 days ago

Gotta have an actual kei car for the joke to really work!

Matt DeCraene
Matt DeCraene
25 days ago

Fancy LeBarons for me. My first car was a red ‘92 LeBaron convertible. Even though I have not sat in one in almost 20 years, it still mentally feels like home. I can still feel the big paint chip in the A pillar.

Tartpop
Tartpop
25 days ago

Turbo K cars? Yes, please! Having grown up with two K cars, this was an easy choice today.

TheDrunkenWrench
TheDrunkenWrench
25 days ago

Since I’m Canadian AND love japanese imports, this was an easy choice. Now to source the bits for a manual swap…

Taargus Taargus
Taargus Taargus
25 days ago

I can’t believe I struggled to decide. Did I really almost consider two K-cars over two Paos???

Not going to lie, the import rules being ignored by state DMVs makes me real nervous to take the Paos. But there are few cars I would love to own more, so Paos it is.

Rob Schneider
Rob Schneider
25 days ago

Turbo K cars? No thank you.

Geoff Buchholz
Geoff Buchholz
25 days ago

Because I don’t want Future Me to have to fight with the Illinois Secretary of State’s Office over the legality of the Pao at some unspecified point down the road, we’ll take the Chryslers Maseratis. I can’t believe it either, but here we are. I think I’d keep the red one and try to spin off the yellow one to help amortize the purchase.

Cyko9
Cyko9
25 days ago

If the Paos had been Chevy Cobalts or something, I would’ve voted for the Chryslers. They’re actually interesting, and I think they’d be worth working on, but the Nissans are irresistable.

M0L0TOV
M0L0TOV
25 days ago

I should go in with another reader and we can go halfsies on the Pao!

Last edited 25 days ago by M0L0TOV
Phantom Pedal Syndrome
Phantom Pedal Syndrome
25 days ago
Gubbin
Gubbin
25 days ago

I’m getting the pao pao deal so I can drive around, play Shonen Knife on the cute stereo and eat bananas.

If an elephant eats a banana

Elephant Paopao loves banana

You are alone in your room

Very bad mentally

Eat a banana with me

Let’s get out and go out

World24
World24
25 days ago

TC’s and Turbo 2s! I’d rock both without issue.

Dr. Frankenputz
Dr. Frankenputz
25 days ago

I’m going to make my own fourth option. I’ll buy all four. All of these look like they could be turned into decent vehicles with minor effort. I wouldn’t consider any of these to be parts cars. $11,700 for four minor project vehicles is a deal. I could see someone making money off these things.

Gilbert Wham
Gilbert Wham
25 days ago

This is The Way

Lizardman in a human suit
Lizardman in a human suit
24 days ago
Reply to  Gilbert Wham

This is the way.

Oops… pavlovian reaction

Squirrelmaster
Squirrelmaster
25 days ago

I went with the double-Pao. I’ve experienced enough K-cars in my life to not need any more, but I have yet to own a right hand drive Japanese car or the experience of importing one from Canada. Not only that, but the Paos give me the chance to do it twice for twice the price!

Brandon Forbes
Brandon Forbes
25 days ago
Reply to  Squirrelmaster

Ditto on more K experience than needed. And I’ve never even owned one! No question, I’m taking the one two Pao punch!

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