It may surprise you to learn you live in a house full of designer things. No, I have not been sneaking round to your homes and replacing this mis-matched crap inside with items from my own impeccable collection because really, I don’t want to know how you people live. It’s because every single consumer good in your house has been designed. From the plastic washing up bowl in your sink to your doorbell camera. They may have been designed thoughtlessly or carelessly . They may have been designed quickly or slowly. Everything you buy to fit into your day-to-day life from the cheapest plastic crap to the most extravagant item had a designer involved in its conception somewhere along the line.
Groceries you absent mindedly chuck in your shopping cart every week are not immune either. The milk in your fridge door. The six-pack of your favored beer. That expensive bottle of fragrance you bought your partner. Packaging designers produced the containers and graphic designers did the labelling. For better or worse design in all its forms surrounds us.


None of it is art, and this is an important distinction to make. Art exists purely to be viewed and understood. Its purpose is to stimulate, start discussions, to be decorative and subjective. Art is what we hang on our walls and install in our public spaces. It has no structure or purpose other than what it says and how it makes us feel – done well it should have meaning and complexity. It doesn’t matter if it’s the Wings of Love by Stephen Pearson or Untitled (Black on Gray) by Mark Rothko – as long as it speaks to you. Art is spontaneous and born from emotion. Design is different. Design is a process born of rationale and a brief: a need to solve a problem. Car design is not art, and car designers are not artists. Describing some cars as art undermines the value regular cars bring to millions of normal people and runs the risk of warping our perception of how we view them as enthusiasts.


Why The Difference Matters
This might sound like a contradiction or even hypocrisy coming from someone who studied at an institution that has the word art in its name, and whose qualifications both end in the letter A for art, but this only happens because of how society categorizes our broader white collar vocations, and car design is a creative process in the same way filmmaking or even fine art is. But it is a creative process bound by very real constraints; the need to create, build and sell a safe, functioning passenger vehicle that is commercially successful. There is an artistic part to it – you have to be able to draw cars and make judgements based on aesthetics. You need the ability to know what works and why and be able to translate that into compelling sketches that sell your ideas and give modelers something to work with.
As a designer I should be able to combine a collection of lines, shapes and surfaces into something that makes pleasing visual sense. This goes for any design discipline – if you don’t have the ability to get your thinking down visually your career won’t progress far. Even the most luscious and evocative car design sketches are not art – because they are in service of the design process, and the only message they convey is what your design looks like and what its function is.

As car enthusiasts If the difference between art and design is not clearly delineated and understood, we run the risk of idolizing certain cars and neglecting others. That’s not to say I do not think car design can be discussed in the same manner as art, because it should be. One of the issues when talking about car design is that it defies easy cultural categorization. You can go and buy books or take courses that will help you understand fine or modern art, architecture, films or literature better. Unless you take a car design degree the same level of understanding is not so readily available. But in the wider world of design the people who instigate, curate and record what is worthy and what is not have always taken a snobby and elitist view towards the proletarian and democratic automobile.
At the risk of undermining my own point I’m going to quote a paragraph from The Art of American Car Design by C. Edson Armi, an American Council of Learned Societies publication (originally published by the Pennsylvania State University Press):
“During and shortly after the war, a group of extraordinarily talented and innovative thinkers at MOMA succeeded in carving out a place for industrial design as a legitimate art within the museum world. Indeed, as director of the Department of Industrial Design, Edgar Kaufmann, Jr., had a tremendously positive influence across the country by selling his own exquisite taste to the American mass market through the museum’s seal of approval, known as the “Good Design” Award. In a peculiar inconsistency, however, the very men who valiantly fought to have industrial design recognized as a legitimate subject of museum study systematically excluded American mass-produced cars from exhibitions of modern design. In the 1991 automobile exhibition at the Museum of Modern Art, they indicted the industry by not showing a single American car designed after 1938 and rubbed salt in the wound by including a Jeep as the only model still in production. The museum rejected the contemporary American car and justified that position philosophically. According to Bauhaus principles, mass-produced American cars could not be good design because their form was superficial-that is, not meaningfully related to structure, function, and materials and because the goal in making these cars was innovation and commercial gain rather than slow change toward a perfect type. The American car also lacked a “voice”: No definite theory underpinned it, nor did institutions or magazines fight for it the way they argued the success of American painting and industrial design at the time.”
The bottom line of the argument here is simply cars do not adhere to a predetermined set of design and cultural ideals that have been specifically selected to exclude them. Other consumer products are worthy of being recognized as being well designed, but the humble automobile is not. This gatekeeping is problematic for a couple of reasons, not least the fact the Bauhaus didn’t have anything to do with cars although some of its principles are relevant. But the Bauhaus set the foundations for Modernism which was a movement dedicated to improving lives through rational design, and in the latter part of the twentieth century in that regard the car did far more for humanity than any Wassily bloody Chair did.
I saw this elitism in action firsthand while I was a student at the Royal College of Art. The organizing committee of the graduation show wanted to prevent the Vehicle Design course displaying their final projects in the main exhibition spaces. We were to banished upstairs out of sight in our studio space, where we would not attract anything like as much footfall. As the student representative for our course I had a lot to say about that in my own forthright and charming manner. After the event I found out the head of the program had been calling me ‘Red Robbo’ behind my back. He meant it as an insult – I took it as a compliment. After I left the Vehicle Design masters was renamed ‘Intelligent Mobility’. Names are important.
Cars Are Worthy Of Debate On Merits Other Than Their Appearance
While cars or any consumer good cannot and should not be considered art, cars are worthy of similar critical discussion in the same manner. Cars are everywhere which means everyone has an opinion; sheer ubiquity pushes them into the discourse, which is why I started writing in the first place. I wasn’t interested in regurgitating press releases about car design like the specialist websites do or spewing out cod-intellectual word spaghetti that makes you go cross eyed when you try to read it. As a car designer and importantly as a car enthusiast I wanted to write for the mainstream audience, because automotive media was woefully under serving enthusiasts knowledgeable, intelligent and accessible discussions about what car designers do, how the whole thing works and what makes good car design and what doesn’t. Call me egotistical but my hope is to nudge those opinions in a more enlightened direction.

Part of the issue is the continuing consensus that no great looking cars are designed anymore. Cars have become soulless appliances with badges being the only way of telling them apart. This isn’t a new argument – thirty five years ago European car magazines were making much the same point about incoming Japanese imports. It is of course a load of utter bollocks – the hyper competitive and industrial nature of car design and production ensures the processes and equipment used have always been innovative, all the way back to the dawn of the discipline.
Nevertheless there’s a pervasive feeling that something has been lost in modern car design; an imagined past of artisans and craftsmen creating wheeled edifices of great artistic beauty, which has evaporated into history and somehow digital tools and unimaginative designers have facilitated this. There’s a romantic notion of someone like Issigonis with a pencil in one hand and a gin and tonic in the other, single handedly knocking out groundbreaking cars like the original Mini. Or the prolific Michelotti, solitary in his carrozzeria furiously sketching masterpieces for Triumph. Or more recently someone like Chris Bangle whose past work at BMW is undergoing something of a rehabilitation thanks to the polarizing nature of Munich’s current output.
Casting superstar designers as artists reinforces the narrative that car design is solely concerned with appearance. This focus on the superficial does not always take into account context, societal impact or engineering, marketing, branding or a million other commercial realities that designers must consider. There are plenty of good looking, well designed cars on the market at the moment if you are not too blinded by the past to see them.

Good Design Is Not Just For Expensive Products
We don’t go to galleries and museums all the time, but we see cars every day. So it’s understandable if misguided why some enthusiasts and auto-journalists are so enamored with the idea of describing pleasing cars from the past as art. But we live in an era where no one wants to be challenged, so this obsession with nostalgia just descends into a simple call and response without pausing to think, consider and evaluate. Discussions that primarily focus on past masters ends up concentrating on iconic cars and fetishizes their appearance without any consideration to whether they are good designs or not. It’s elevation without reservation.

The net result of this misclassification of certain cars as art is that it allows think pieces in automotive media to peel off the characteristics that are desirable to all enthusiasts and place them squarely in the hands of those perceived to be of status. A high end pursuit of an overly romanticized ideal – manual gearboxes, naturally aspirated engines, considered use of materials and thoughtful design invariably described using bullshit adjectives like curated and crafted, that becomes available only to a select few. I recently read an old article in this vein that talks about Koenigsegg designer Sasha Selipanov:
The lone exception was the Genesis Essentia concept, which may be beautiful, but its origin story means it’ll wait for history. The Essentia designer, Sasha Selipanov, is a protégé of Luc Donckerwolke and by extension Walter de Silva, who are two phenomenal contemporary design minds.
Sasha’s an Impressionist to the bone. He is a fascinating, short, bearded man from Eastern Europe who only wears Metallica shirts and counts among his favorites the Ferrari Dino and “Let’s get another drink.” The former Genesis designer swore to me over a few beers that he’d never draw an SUV.
(Emphasis mine on the above).
Get the fuck over yourself. You mean to tell me given the opportunity, you wouldn’t want to come up with the next Range Rover, Defender, Escalade, Wrangler, Suburban or G-Class? All iconic cars that any car designer would kill to be involved with? It’s the sort of pandering crap that comes from someone who has spent too long sniffing his own marker fumes, encouraged by a fawning press and an uncritical online fandom.
Ferrari has recently hinted that it may bring manual gearboxes back to its very limited edition Icona models. In an interview with the Australian car magazine Carsales chief product development officer Gianmaria Fulgenzi said:
“I don’t think all our customers want to have to train every morning just to drive our cars.”
Fulgenzi said Ferrari is now prepared to consider the reintroduction of the manual transmission – but only on cars deemed appropriate.
“In terms of mechanical gearchanges, it’s something that could be in the future, depending on product,” he said.
Manual gear shifting elitism is an essay for another time, but late last year I sat through a presentation by the chief product designer of Leica, which went into detail about the importance of design to Leica as a brand. He said it was crucial for the company to meet customer expectations in terms of usability, functionality, quality and feel across all their products, not just their cameras. Underneath it all is a consistent visual identity that makes a Leica what it is: a high end camera for customers who expect them to be pleasurably tactile to operate in a time honored way.
This commitment to branding, interfaces and consistency of operation is commendable, but what really wound me up was the inference – very much left not-unstated – that wealthy customers deserved this in their products and it was something only a company like Leica could offer. This is the thin end of the wedge in positioning thoughtful design as a quality that only applies to expensive products. A product that is nice to use is not for you, regular person. Superior design for me and not for thee. Let the piggies have their slop.

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— Ian Callum CBE (@IanCallum) April 4, 2025
Exclusive Design Not Better Design
High end customers have always desired different goods and service to the rest of us. Those products have long been used to signify wealth, taste and to gain access to the more rarified parts of society. Sure in the past a coach built Talbot or Rolls Royce would have functioned marginally better than a clanking Model T Ford and reflected your place in the social hierarchy. But paying for better mechanicals and therefore fewer breakdowns is a thing of the past. In fact I would bet good money a lot of the cars built especially for the Sultan of Brunei if examined closely would prove quite ropey. Cars have long been safe, clean and reliable to operate but those with enough money have still been commissioning one offs with varying degrees of success. What they signify is exclusive design, not better design, and certainly not art. What you are getting is rarity and something specifically tailored to your desires. It shouldn’t represent better usability and functionality than can be achieved by the mass market.


Having clearly labelled haptic controls that can be operated by feel without taking your eyes off the road and a sensory driving experience shouldn’t be the preserve of the wealthy. I’m not advocating for the universal introduction of manual gearboxes because most consumers don’t care. But they do care about how their cars look, feel and operate. An enjoyable experience in these areas should be available to everyone at all price points because we know it leads to more alert and engaged drivers, hopefully leading to safer roads and happier enthusiasts. Good design is democratic, and as enthusiasts and auto-journalists we should be demanding better for everyone, not just those who sleep on a bed made of money. If you don’t agree, you can piss off to a gallery and stare at a Rothko.
[Editor’s Note: I think this is an interesting take from AC and I generally agree with a lot of what he’s saying, but I do think there are exceptions; cars can be art when their intention of their creation is something other than their actual practical use as a car. Think about all those crazy hot rods and show rods from the ’60s and ’70s, for example. They’re sculpture:
Other than that qualifier, I think Adrian’s points stand, at least about elitism. Though I’m a little less eager to draw hard lines between art and design. – JT]
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Counterpoint: Years ago I painted my parents’ house and garage for them. This was nothing fancy, just a regular paint job. Shortly thereafter, however, a photographer came through their small town on the Oregon coast and took several photos of the area, some of which were put on display in the Henry Art Gallery here on the University of Washington campus. I can therefore say that a reproduction of one of my paintings was featured in an art museum. I am now an artist.
Read the caption below the image of the Leica.
Not applicable. As I recall he didn’t use a Leica.
Well of course not in your parents ‘hood. I however was once photographed in a studio with a large format Hasselblad that cost more than my car.
Yeah, well, I own a Polaroid SX-70 that’s worth more than several of my cars. Combined. So there.
Alright Lord Litchfield no need to brag.
Fair enough. As long as you appreciate the multiple tens of dollars involved in the value of the Polaroid. Multiple, I say. A whole-number multiple, too, not one of those sneaky fractions that would make the amount smaller.
A fun thought experiment here is to consider Theatrical Design. Whether it’s costume, lighting, sets, sound… it’s a technical process but done by folks with fine arts training. The design, as Adrian says, has to be functional and realized and needs to work. But it functions in the a key role in what is 1000% undoubtedly art, in a way that is completely inseparable.
So is it design or art? Does it cross the rainbow bridge at some point? Is this navel gazing the height of what we do with our arts degrees?
Wonderfully written piece, I’ll be thinking about this and Rothko for the rest of the day now.
I’ve seen a number of Rothko works, but never an achromatic one. I did’t know they existed, so I am happy to have seen that one pictured.
I believe I’ve actually seen that very piece on display as the MoMA last year, and its wonderful.I do prefer his multicolor pieces though.
Let’s agree somewhere down the middle:
Your car designs are not art.
Other car designs might be.
Also, may I plead:
WHATEVER HEMORRHOID STORM HAS HIT YOUSE FUCKERS LATELY, with your cool constant cursing, f-bombs left and right and your chronic foul mood and entitled bitching about everything and anything – PLEASE DON’T LET IT SPREAD TO MERCEDES !!!
I want to have one sure value I can still rely on in this shithole of unrealized
Pulitzers.
Oh man. You are really not going to like either the title or lyrics of Kendrick’s Pulitzer winning album.
Not sure what our contributors’ music achievements are 🙂
To be fair, Adrian has staked the ground of foul mouthed entitled bitching from day one. And we love him for it.
You’re fucking right I bloody well have.
Yes on the former, eh on the latter.
Let me see if I’ve got this right. A poem is art, unless it addresses an issue with intent to change the readers thinking about that issue in which case it’s advocacy journalism?
Nah. I prefer to believe this articulate article is art. Which I enjoyed.
wredz, I Decided not to share.
Top Gear disagrees with you: BBC One – Top Gear, Series 14, Episode 5
Replied isntead of starting a new comment, move along
Art is an experience, it is an event. It’s an event that takes place between the object of art and the person viewing or experiencing it, filtered through that persons cultural experiences.
Art happens. Or maybe it doesn’t.
It might happen for me but not you, or maybe the other way around. People who stand to profit from art would disagree, and objects of art might be investments, but in that sense they do not function as art.
I think most modern art is made by people who can’t draw 🙂
What happens when design ends up on the wall of a noted art museum to invoke thought?
Milwaukee Art Museum Design Collection
“Art is what we hang on our walls and install in our public spaces. It has no structure or purpose other than what it says and how it makes us feel – done well it should have meaning and complexity.”
That in itself sounds like the elitism you’re complaining about. Why does art have to be solely dedicated to feeling? Why does it cease to be art because it also concerns itself with something more practical? If I’m a sculptor creating an exhibition piece, and part of the meaning is conveyed by having people sit in the centre of it, does it cease to be art if I take into account practical considerations like making the thing comfortable to sit on?
This article reminds me a lot of the discourse around Alphonse Mucha’s works. A lot of snobs didn’t consider his works “real art” because he primarily did advertisements. But now he’s considered one of the bedrocks of Art Nouveau and every day people create new works of art in his style.
A good chunk of your argument also boils down to complaining about people romanticising “the classics” because they’ve got nostalgia blinders on. People do this constantly with all forms of art, throughout human history. It’s a completely seperate issue from whether or not cars count as art.
Frankly, I see far more beauty and meaning in the curves of a Tipo 33 Stradale than I do any Rothko or Pollock, regardless of which of those works count as capital-a Art.
Why bother.
It’s not about art. It’s about Jason throwing an unusual CD fit the other day, and the need to out-bitch him to set things straight.
As if I would lower myself to that level of hackery.
Thanks for this Adrian! 🙂 I really enjoyed reading it.
Also, that Grande Panda from Fiat is so good… especially with those steelies with the round holes. I’d totally buy one if they sold them here, and willingly put up with the occasional ‘fix it again Tony’ jokes from guys older than myself. 😉
I really, really like it. Shame i probably won’t get to drive one unless I buy one.
Does Fiat not offer press cars? I’d love to see you review one in detail… that’s as close as I’ll ever get to enjoying one myself.
Stellantis does, but not to me.
If I had Bezos money (or even just Spielberg money) I’d buy one for the European office of The Autopian. Keeping myself housed and clothed and fed is fortunately within my means, but donating cars sadly exceeds them. 😉
I took an entirely inappropriate amount of joy in informing my Jeepophile neighbor which Fiat platform underlies which Jeeps over the weekend. If I had an Abarth I’d have that round in the chamber at all times.
I test drove the Renegade (nee Fiat) when it first came out and the salesdrone repeatedly swore that it had absolutely zero to do with Fiat… I wasn’t needling him, I just mentioned it off-handedly. The Renegade wasn’t awful at all IMO: plasticy inside like most cheap cars, and maybe not pretty to most eyes, but fine for what it was (I’m not a Jeep guy, and the only bouldering I’ve ever done is the kind that requires sticky climbing shoes and not portal axles).
I have a big soft spot for the Renegade.
TL;DR: Why is a designer making a semantics/linguistics argument?
I agree with everything here, but I wanted to add an idea – or, at least, a phrasing of an idea – that I think is missed:
Something can be beautiful and aesthetically pleasing without being art. One of my favorite things to experience in the world is excellent/playful consumer design – beautiful objects for every day use.
I feel like the base argument of this article is that a lot of folks will bandy about the word “art” to describe design they particularly like that they also feel transcends its functionality, or operates at the perceived peak embodiment of its function (e.g. synchronized ITB’s on a V12, as an example). That’s just language drift.
That’s fine, but ITBs are not art. They have a specific mechanical function first, the aesthetic appeal is a by-product of that.
Agreed, it’s misuse of the term – but more a lingual issue than a belief it’s actually an art piece, is my point.
American slang has adopted “literally” to mean its antonym. I don’t believe the new Hummer is literally an elephant on the road. It figuratively might be, though.
Leica is a great target since they are basically a Veblen good trading on past glories. Nowadays they are the province of well heeled dilettante who bang on about bokeh. Real working pros use Nikon or Canon. Nikon has design chops too, ever since Giugiaro did the F3.
I get the idea of cars as design rather than art, just as a Braun coffee pot by Dieter Rams is not art. Considering what Rolls-Royce is making these days, a Mazda hatchback has better design, and anyone can afford it
Mazda design for the most part is consistently very strong at the moment.
I’m not sold on the argument presented here. The argument itself feels somehow elitest, though the arguer doesn’t frame himself as one of the elites. You are condescendingly telling me that those things I find aesthetically pleasing but weren’t designed to do NOTHING cannot be art. This is an opinion only I believe only college graduates of art degrees would ever hold. The rest of us are content to understand that designed beauty is art, wherever it is found.
The argument that art, as a defining characteristic, CANNOT also serve utility doesn’t fit within any view of the world I have ever held. Where are the lines drawn properly then?
A painting hung on a wall is art, by the definition of this article. What if I paint the picture on the whole wall? Now its also a utilitarian wall.
Stucco serves a purpose of protecting the underlying substrate. What if I choose to emboss a design in that stucco? Is it no longer utilitarian and serving its purpose?
Art, if we define it as non utilitarian and simply for the feels, still sneaks in everywhere. By that definition, anything that was done for aesthetics and actually damages the utility of the article in question must therefore be art. So a side mirror that is designed only to look attractive, and actually makes the mirror less effective, that must be art, on a car. A front bumper that sacrifices cooling flow and aerodynamics for the aesthetic is again, a piece of art.
Once the utility is satisfied, the becomes the canvas. Anything projected on to that canvas for the purpose of the feels is art. My desire for the thing over other versions of the thing, based on its appearance, I will always consider to be appreciation of THAT art. Otherwise, art painted on canvas or paper can also not be considered art, because those items carry too much utility to be allowed within the definition presented here.
Things can be beautiful without being art.
We agree here, also art can be ugly.
Beauty is orthogonal to Art.
Although a piece of my art in hanging in a show right now titled Beauty Is A Blast right next to a Rauschenberg and a Johns.
https://beautyisablast.gilbert-rolfe.art/
Yes absolutely. Art does not equal beauty.
Mark Rothko was so gifted. I could sit entranced by any one of his pieces for hours.
This article also set me thinking today. I agree with it in concept, but I find it distasteful in our consumer culture that we must acquire useless items (on top of the myriad “necessities” of modern life) if we expect to include true art in our daily lives.
I try to surround myself with good design, and I include some artistic pieces (including a Rothko print) in my decor, but space and other resources are limited.
I do not believe that using my designer chair as a sitting implement ruins it as a item of artistic contemplation, and I am aware of how much “fine art” is a matter of marketing. But I am also a person with an art car, so my judgment on art versus craft is already skewed.
Good article all around, Adrian. Thanks for the brain crunch this morning!
Time spent at the Rothko Chapel is never wasted. If you haven’t been, it should be on your list. https://www.rothkochapel.org/
It’s on my list! I have a strange affection for off-beat museums and religious buildings. A two-in-one is too much to resist, even without the Rothko connection making it a three-fer.
Chapel is a strong word. It’s non-denominational and really far more of a meditative space with amazing art. The Menil Collection is simply amazing.
Whilst I, a fan of John Cage, have a very expansive definition of what music is, I think I can get behind your point.
My drums are quite beautiful to look at (in my humble drum nerd opinion), but they’re not something you’d find in a museum. The art is in the sound the drums make and how they make me feel.
Similarly, the art of my car is in the driving experience: the sound, the feel, the cornering, the wind in my (non-existent) hair, etc.
I Googled the definition of art and it is as follows:
“The expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture, producing works to be appreciated primarily for their beauty or emotional power.”
Some car designs can do that.
I would side with Adrian in this, as the spoiler word is primarily. Cars are functional first.
My dad would have made a Fiat or Jaguar joke in response to that.
Theoretically functional?
While I agree with you in general, I do believe that some car designs are sculptures, which is an art. I remember when the Boston Museum of Fine Arts had a showing of cars owned by Ralph Loren. There were a lot of people who were appalled at the time who had many of the same arguments you make here. This is a link to the webpage describing the cars shown. https://www.mfa.org/exhibitions/speed-style-and-beauty
You can make your own judgements but I will not narrow my world by so rigid a definition.
I would argue ALL car designs are sculptures, but a rare few qualify as Fine Art.
You could probably lump most vehicle designs into the same “is it Art-worthy?” space as the sculptures I produced in my freshman 3D Sculpture class (as in, resoundingly No), but there are some cars I could walk around and stare at all day. To me, they’re works of Art.
Then there’s “art” that I really just don’t get at all. Take that famous Campbell’s Soup can – why is it Art when a painting of it is hanging on a museum wall, and not art when I see it on the shelf when I open a cabinet door in my kitchen?
And don’t get me started on that banana duct taped to the wall, or the blank canvas considered ground breaking just because some guy had the audacity to hang it up in a museum.
I get art is subjective and arbitrary, but excluding cars from that space seems like a bridge too far. (Oh crap, now I accidentally brought cinema into this …)
I’m going to turn the art world on its head with my next piece.
A wall, duct taped to a banana.
“Take that famous Campbell’s Soup can – why is it Art when a painting of it is hanging on a museum wall, and not art when I see it on the shelf when I open a cabinet door in my kitchen?”
The painting is there to make you feel hungry, and frustrated that you don’t have tasty tomato soup, whereas the actual soup can is a device that allows you to satiate that hunger. Or something.
Okay…
I’m reminded of a comedian’s bit about the origin of nude dancing. He was pretending to be holding a magazine looking at the centerfold, and said “you know, this is just not frustrating enough. I need live women I can’t have.”
In this case, I guess both the centerfold and the dance would be art, because either would leave you with the hunger unsatisfied?
(Oh, crap – now I’ve brought porn into this!)
“What they signify is exclusive design, not better design, and certainly not art”
I think the best example of that in the automotive world was the crap Bristol was selling for years before they were mercifully liquidated:
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=226&t=535291&i=60
https://petrolblog.com/articles/bristol-press-photos-delightfully-british
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And that is why MoMA has an original jeep in their collection and not any Bristols or Rolls Royces.
https://www.moma.org/collection/
And a set of NA Miata taillights!
The NA door handles are the true work of art. The taillights are pretty much perfect too.
Te NA Miata is a perfect example of getting the design right the first time time and later versions just muddled it.
The perfect little “pop” every time you open the door never fails to make me smile. It’s interactive art!
I can hear that very specific sound in my head as you’ve described it but never before realized it was an NA Miata specific sound. It’s a shame my own Miata is too much of a heap to feel like art, only a reminder that a nicer one could be art.
I think it’s cool there’s a Bell 47 (think the open for M*A*S*H) hanging from the ceiling there.
They really need to clean that thing, I was there a couple of weeks ago and it was pretty dusty.
That’s sad. I recently got a “today in history” photo from OneDrive from 14 years ago and it looked pristine. Probably better than it ever did in service. I’ve been back since but was paying more attention to other stuff.
Mansory?
Another great example!
Recently went to an exhibit of Art Nouveau which included a French wicker car. Was it art? I’m not the arbiter—but it sure looked like it would be scary fun to hoon.
I like the definition of art as a “vehicle” for the communication of ideas. I disagree that an item is not art if it has functional utility. The stained glass in Sainte Chapelle keeps rain out of the building. It is also a work of art.
But it is not art in the strictest sense, as it’s primary function is as a window.
Your definitiion is hardly universally accepted. The builder of the chapel certainly knew how to make a merely functional window that would let in light without all the color and design. The point was to inspire as much as weatherproofing the space. The idea of a primary function is in itself subjective. Painted portraits had utility in preserving a person’s likeness in a world without cameras. If Francesco del Giocondo’s primary purpose was to preserve his wife’s likeness, does that remove the Mona Lisa from the definition of art?
The point that a lot of people seem to be missing, is not about nailing down exactly what art is. It was about explaining that product design is not art and why confusing art and design specifically car design is an issue.
You have to have a workable definition of art to get to saying what is not within the bounds of art. Most of the great works of art have some purpose beyond pure ornamentation or provocation. Leonardo usually referred to himself as an engineer, but that does not mean he was not also a great artist.
This is far, but it wasn’t my intention to come up with a definition of art any further than it served the purposes of the point I was going to make. But that’s what some people are getting fixated on, rather than the rest of my theory.
I appreciate that Design and Art come from the deep human impulse to express and capture and share the joy that comes of finding beauty in the world. (And everything else IMO is graffiti.)
Good design is indeed democratic, and modern manufacturing makes that a problem for economic elites.
“I am a billionaire, I want a bespoke iPhone that befits my station in life.”
OK, we can take a regular one and electroplate some gold on the frame, maybe make a tooled leather case.
“No, I mean, it has to be, like better than the one any rando can buy.”
It doesn’t work like that. The viability of the product depends on them all using the same chips and software and overall design.
“OK then, I’m going to make it so those dirty commoners can’t afford iPhones, just special people like me.”
Great, so now you have a paperweight because its entire utility and value comes from the network effect of everyone having one.
Counterpoint: there are those who feel that graffiti does exactly what your first sentence requires.
Fair point, but I’ve seen a few unsanctioned murals (and custom-knitted sweaters on statues even) and I’ve seen a whole lot of territorial pissing.
The point of manual transmissions, tactile-ness and accessibility speaks to me having been a Car and Driver-reading kid in the ’80s/early ’90s. They repeated that two companies’ manuals excelled in that tactile experience, for different reasons; Ferrari and Honda.
A spin in a now-necessarily-vintage manual Ferrari remains a bucket-list item for me while I’m about to drive my manual Honda to work as soon as I finish typing this.
Adrian, you have cut to the core of the debate about if Norman Rockwell was an artist. He was undoubtably a very skilled and talented illistrator, but not true art as it was paid marketing commission?
If you make it back to the US, visit Fallingwater outside Pittsburgh, the vacation home of Edgar Kaufmann Jr’s family, and of which he had a key role in creating with Wright and preserving.
Norman Rockwell was a great artist who earned money to support his art by working as an illustrator and political cartoonist.
I too believe it is art, he often assigned additional depth and meaning, even to Saturday Night Post covers. His WW2 era work in particular can be powerful.
Norman Rockwell called himself an illustrator not an artist. That is not to say he did not do art, but his commercial work was commissioned illustrations.
I consider Walt Kelly an artist. Pogo is full of little Richard Scary-like Easter eggs—and it always soothes me and brings me joy.
I GO POGO.
My favorite “art” project ever was hand-cutting a silkscreen of Pogo. Gawd I wish I’d printed more shirts from it.
I looked for a Vote for Pogo button awhile back with no success.
Settled for I Like Ike repo
EARTHQUAKE! EARTHQUAKE! This debate is called in account of the earthquake.
Interesting. By the “art isn’t commercial” standard pretty much every painting and sculpture done during the Renaissance, as well as most of the works of the Old Masters, would not be considered “art”, as they were all paid commissions either by the church or wealthy private individuals.
Thanks for this I was going to post something less well written.
That’s more or less the thesis for Modernism. Until it turns out to be a CIA project to confuse the Russians
They were commissioned but the content was not dictated by the commissioner. Its like a public mural, it is commissioned by the town or building owner but most are considered art as the muralist is usually left to offer their interpretation of what the mural should represent. That is not the same as a commercial entity commissioning a poster, advertisement, or magazine cover.
Fallingwater is a house. A doublewide is a house. One is art, one is not.
An Egyptian sarcophagus is container for a corpse. A pine box is a container for a corpse. One is art, one is not.
In applying the term “art,” there’s a false dichotomy here between functional objects, which may or may not be made aesthetically appealing, and decorative objects, which are intended solely for aesthetic/emotional appeal. And there’s a kind of continuum of functional objects, from the unabashedly practical machine, to the the object that’s dressed up a bit of disguise the mechanicals, to the thing that’s meant to be a pleasure to behold and touch. At some point it crosses into art.
Access to artistry is unavoidably undemocratic, for the most part. Superior artists–based on some collective, subjective judgment–are going to cost more, whether the commission is a sculpture or the next Ferrari.
Occasionally, some artist toiling in obscurity will produce an unexpectedly icon, something perhaps only the artist believes in until the work is revealed to the world. In that way, a great piece of art can become democratized–and the automotive world provides great opportunities for that magic to happen. Of course, in time that car is likely to become a pricey collectible, no longer as available to the masses. Kind of like a piece of art.
Bingo!
This brings up the difference between design and styling; a pine box is a design, a sarcophagus is a box with styling. Is it also art? Depends on how it affects you.
Styling is part of the design process.
I presume the double wide is art, right?
I think there are moments ad cars the move from design to art. Often they are the ones that sacrifice engineering for design, or they are the ones that link the design to the engineering as one wholistic design language.
I also think there are artist that work in the medium of cars. Two of the best in my opinion was George Barris, and Ed Roth. They took parts and cars and engines and made new art that drove and emoted and reflected the time.
I’m not sure we have the same art as car culture today, but I also think we are starting to come out of a small malaise era of design as well, so perhaps we will see more people take on the wild one off design of cars with the introduction of off the shelf battery and E axle systems.
I was trying to keep things simple and not get bogged down in semantics. Fallingwater is beautiful but not art. It is a house first and foremost. I think the point I was trying to make is, it is your right to consider it art. Those of us with a platform should not be making that categorisation for the reasons argued. Normal people don’t deserve well designed houses with curbside appeal?
I can’t say anyone “deserves” the prettier house, but humans have a knack for commoditizing absolutely anything. That includes artistic design–whether it’s appended to something practical or purely decorative. Rich people can afford to pay the subjectively assigned value. As I said, undemocratic, but that’s the world we’ve built.
Generally speaking, the vast majority of rich people have absolutely terrible taste. Hideous hideous, hideous stuff.
Sometimes they get bamboozled into buying stuff that is actually nice, but they aren’t buying it because it’s nice. They buy half million dollar wrist watches that look like Chinese knock offs because their friends that can only afford quarter million dollar wrist watches will know the difference.
Meh, if you give them something with curb appeal they’ll just stick a bunch of tat in the yard.
Does it matter that Fallingwater is a *terrible* house (as I understand it)? If a car isn’t actually functional, does that help or hurt it’s overall cause, either as art or as car?
One could argue Fallingwater is an art installation masquerading as a house.
Joseph Eichler built houses I’d be happy to live in that were priced for normal people. They are kind of pricey now though.
Fallingwater isn’t functional though, therefore it must be art. Otherwise it’s just some kind of glorified bus shelter or something.