Good morning! For today’s Friday special, I hope you’ll indulge me in a little sentimentality. Today would have been my dad’s 80th birthday, so I’ve chosen two cars that I know he would have loved, price be damned. Though, honestly, for what they are, they don’t seem all that expensive to me.
Yesterday’s classics had a lot of you taking strolls down memory lane, especially when it came to the Dodge Dart. It seems that everyone of a certain age either had one, or knew someone who did. It’s no wonder it beat out that Chevy van. Nothing against the van, of course, but it’s hard to resist the power of the Slant Six.
The Dart would be my choice as well, and personally, I’d leave the six in it. I’m not one to swap out a perfectly fine-running engine just to go a little faster. I would just spruce up the interior and enjoy it as-is.
Now, as many of you know, my dad passed away a couple of years ago, just shy of his 78th birthday. I wrote at the time about his influence on my gear-headedness, and not a day goes by that I don’t miss talking about cars (and everything else) with him. So in honor of what would have been his 80th birthday, I wanted to take a look at a couple of classics that are similar to cars he owned, and the two he always said he wanted back. I know these are anything but “shitboxes,” but we’ll get back on track on Monday. Today I just want to show you two really cool old cars that we don’t get to talk about often.
1949 Packard Eight Touring Sedan – $17,900
Engine/drivetrain: 289 cubic inch flathead inline 8, three-speed manual, RWD
Location: Sun Valley, CA
Odometer reading: 37,000 miles
Operational status: Runs and drives well
You never forget your first car, and Dad told me about his first car many times: a 1951 Packard Patrician with that famous straight-8 and an Ultramatic two-speed transmission. He told me it ran well, but burned almost as much oil as it did gasoline. The ’51 was a more modern bodystyle than this, but Dad told me he always liked this ’46-50 style, based on the pre-war Clipper design, better. He drooled over Doc Brown’s Packard convertible in Back To The Future. I know he would have liked this lovely green sedan.
Packard’s remarkable flathead inline 8 served for thirty years in various forms. By the end, it was hopelessly outdated, with everyone else having long since switched to high-horsepower overhead-valve V8s. But this big long engine had a few tricks up its sleeve; it runs so smoothly you can rest a quarter on the head while it’s idling, and it has enough torque to allow you to just leave it in high gear most of the time. This one has a three-speed manual instead of the Ultramatic. Its odometer shows only 37,000 miles, and the seller says it’s mostly original.
Modern cars may have more comfort and convenience features, but in terms of style, they can’t hold a candle to this old Packard. Just look at this dashboard. It looks like a cabin in the Queen Mary. There’s not much to it, just a speedometer, a clock, a fuel gauge, and a radio, but what more do you really need? Of course, these days, that old AM radio won’t pick up much more than talk radio, but I bet you could hide a Bluetooth receiver somewhere if you really wanted to. The upholstery is original, and immaculate, and it has plastic covers on it to keep it that way, just like your grandma’s sofa.
It has been repainted, in the original colors, and it’s gorgeous. The fact that this car is for sale for this price when rougher examples of more desirable cars sell for more baffles me. But I guess cars of this age only appeal to a narrow demographic, so they can’t command as much as a more obvious choice. Good news for those of us who like the oddballs, I guess.
1959 MGA 1500 – $19,500
Engine/drivetrain: 1.5-liter overhead valve inline 4, four-speed manual, RWD
Location: Thousand Oaks, CA
Odometer reading: Ad says 4,000; maybe 104,000? Maybe 4,000 since restoration?
Operational status: Runs and drives well
I grew up steeped in the lore of the MGA. My dad drove one in college, a red 1962 1600 MkII, but it didn’t belong to him – it belonged to my grandfather. Dad got to drive the MGA after his hand-me-down ’55 Plymouth gave up the ghost. He told me tales of ripping around the back roads in Missouri, scaring my mom half to death when they were dating. My grandpa sold the MG out from under him eventually, and Dad bought his own car (a Studebaker Hawk, if I remember right). He always wanted another MGA, but the time was never right. I think he would have liked this one.
This is a little earlier version of the MGA, with the smaller 1489 CC version of BMC’s B-series engine. It has two SU carburetors like any good MG should, and while it’s not exactly a screamer, speed and acceleration were never really the point of MG’s sports cars. You’ll take about sixteen seconds to reach 60 MPH in this car, but you’ll be grinning the whole time, listening to that engine growl. This one just had its carbs rebuilt (which takes about an hour per carb, by the way) and a new water pump installed. The radiator looks new as well.
It’s fairly original inside, but the steering wheel has been replaced. It’s an improvement over the original, though, as far as I’m concerned. The red leather seats are cracked here and there, but they sure do look comfortable. It comes with a good top and side curtains, which are important, because we know into every sports car’s life a little rain must fall.
A lot of people – though not everyone – consider the Jaguar E-Type to be the prettiest sports car ever made, but I’d disagree; I think the MGA has it beat hands-down. It’s gorgeous in photos, but if you see one in person, it’s even better. The shapes and proportions just work, especially the 1500 cars, with their simpler taillights and flush rather than recessed grilles. And the fact that it was evolved from a LeMans race car makes it even better. Personally I’d rather have steel wheels, or even better the Dunlop alloys of the Twin Cam and 1600 DeLuxe, but the wire wheels do suit it.
The fact that you can have either of these for twenty grand when so many more popular classics cost six figures absolutely amazes me. The Packard out-cools a ’57 Chevy by a country mile, at least to me, and I’d rather have a good MGA than any air-cooled Porsche. This is one instance in which it’s advantageous to be a fan of the underdogs, I guess. Which one do you prefer? Discuss, debate, enjoy, and we’ll look at some more old cheap beaters next week.
(Image credits: sellers)
Wow – nice tribute to your dad. Both of these are really nice cars, and neither has been at all screwed up or molested over the years. It’s a very difficult choice as it would be cool to have both sitting in the driveway. In the end, I had to go with the MG. My dad bought a ’66 MGB back in ’67 and drove it for thirty years. Another guy on our block had a TF. As wonderful as the Packard is, it’s the MG that tugs the heartstrings for me,
My dad’s twin has a 1931 Packard Eight which my grandpa has purchased back in the 50s if I am not mistaken. Sure much different then this style packard but this Packard is lovely. Side note that has no point with these listings rumble seats were awesome to ride around in as a kid.
I’ve always wanted to drive something with a straight-8. If money were no object, it would be a Duesenberg, but since I haven’t hit the Powerball yet, I think that Packard would be an excellent car to tool around in and take to car shows.
Tough choice for very different reasons. The Packard is just a form of old school cool you just don’t see anymore. The MGA pulls at my nostalgia a bit since my Grandad built a kit car MG that I loved riding in as a kid. It wasn’t an MGA but my brain associates the brand with the memory. Ultimately I went Packard because it’s just so classy and would fit better with my current life.
Your dad apparently had very good taste in cars. Both of these are extremely cool. I like that the MGA has its original leather interior, even if it isn’t in perfect condition. I also think the MGA is a great looking car. I voted for the Packard, though. I prefer big, comfortable cars to sports cars. I also love the color, I like that it is mostly original, and that it is in even better condition than the MGA. It is crazy that a car like this is worth less than $20k. I hope it finds a good home.
I may be old enough to be your Dad, because I would LOVE to have that MGA in my garage – even though I have the “I’d rather push a Triumph than drive an MG T-shirt”. I can’t agree with it being prettier than an E-type though. The MG is pretty, the Jag is sex on four wheels.
I’m not into land yachts, so no Packard for me though I agree with those saying it is lovely. Especially the color combo, and I love those post-war faux wood painted dashes. A buddy has a ’48 Chevy Fleetline (also mostly original, his grandfather bought it new) that looks just like this inside. It is also amazingly terrible to drive, and I have no doubt this is as well. The MGA is just as fun to drive as it is to look at, BTDT.
i think the e-type is fairly polarising, regardless of Enzo’s opinion. After the second glance, i decided i didn’t really care for it.
But i’m really replying to throw out a recommendation: recent Brit detective limited series called Dagleish (after the mystery novel series, streams on either Britbox or Acorn). Set in the 70’s, and great production values all around, but they last episode i caught, had the lead character’s e-type following an Escort Mexico (type 2 i think) down a windy country road. That Escort was stunning. Not sure if real or repro though, not familiar with the car.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. <shrug>
Those early hot RWD Escorts were very, very cool cars. Ford of Europe knew how to turn a family car into a rally weapon.
As much as I love the allure of a straight 8, I just know if both were in the garage I’d pick the MGA more often for a sunny drive. Plus I already have a large classic sedan.
Add in that I’m familiar with MG engines and SU carbs, and specialise in vehicle wiring, the MGA is a no brainer for me.
Have to go with the MGA, knowing that’s the one my dad would have picked. He grew up in Scotland and always talked about his Uncles (one from each side) having a MG roadster. Having a wee dram of Scotch tonight and pouring some out for the dads no longer with us, Slà inte!
That Packard is amazing. Easy vote today!
Why should you vote for the Packard? Ask the man that owns one.
Absolutely beautiful.
Everything about that Packard is just a yes.
Sure, that MG is nifty, but when you want a stick shift, 4-cylinder convertible sports car, say it with me now, Miata is the answer. Even in my part of the rust belt, I found a NA, NB, & NC for sale for less than that MG, and when all is set and done, I won’t have something unique like that Packard either way.
Miata is NOT always the answer. A Miata is just a completely different experience than a vintage British car. Even the very first NA Miata is still very much a modern car, and drives like a modern car. The very vintageness of something like this MG is a large part of the appeal. I LOVE NA Miatas, and a friend of mine bought one as a nearly new used car right around when I bought my Triumph Spitfire and owned it for 25 years. But I would never trade my Spitfire for one.
Packard. That’s a car you take the kids out in and make memories. Then the grandkids.
Then you pass it down, and generation after generation does the same.
Hey that’s why I went with it!
The interior of that Packard is gorgeous, but I’ll always take a roadster. The MGA is perfect.
No need to apologize for sentimentality. For many of us, our love of cars or knowledge of wrenching came from our dads. My dad is in his 80’s and has Parkinson’s with dementia. I will never forget the day I came home and found the man who taught me everything I know about wrenching, staring at a disassembled brake caliper with no idea of how to put it back together. I sat down and helped him get it reassembled. I don’t think he picked up tools again after that. He would have loved the Packard too.
Wishing you a peaceful day on your Dad’s birthday. As others have indicated, either one of these is good, but that Packard is just simply gorgeous and gets my vote.
I’m English and have an irrational love for old British roadsters but that Packard is just *chef’s kiss*. Absolutely no contest, and I’m glad I don’t have extra garage space at present.
I would be happy with either, but because I want to drive any classic I have, I would have to go the the MGA. Easier to get parts, aftermarket support, etc. That Packard is gorgeous. I could probably convinced I made the wrong choice.
No need to apologize for going rogue today, I would welcome a Fancy Friday palate cleanser every week. I went with the MGA. For me the Smiles Per Gallon wins out.
I second this!
My dad learned to drive in a ’49 Packard. He would bring it up every so often, even as he got older. The car made quite an impression on him, so that’s where I’m headed.
Nothing wrong with the MG though.
Packard. Easy choice for me. My Dad had a fleet of collector classics. All makes. At least a couple Packards over the years. He had a strong affinity saying they were too well made.
That car will be slow to get to speed but will run that speed without much effort for as long as you have fuel to feed it. I’m a little surprised by the price.I would have expected it to be in 20-22k range.
MG is ok. Needs a Rover V8.
My thought process was that you can buy a better version of the MG for $20K in a nice late model Miata but you can’t buy anything like that Packard nowadays for $20K or $200K.
The green pushes it over the top for me, Packard.
MGA is pretty snazzy, but I would definitely go for the more bespoke packard in this case. Museum quality almost for a low price to get in. I imagine it is the more doors that causes that, but I like it better still.
I am a sucker for convertibles, but that Packard is a real beauty! And I already have a daily driver ‘vert. Packard for me today!
I want that Packard something bad – but I want the MGA more.
I went with the MGA, not thinking of it completely as ‘car’ but more ‘safer motorcycle’. Open air, small size, manual, but 4 wheels for stability and such.
I am not 100% sure it is safer, but I get your stability reasoning other wise. I am almost certain the height of the AMG will make it invisible to the truck gang. and it will be harder to squirt around them in an emergency.
yeah maybe not safer, slightly easier, arthritis gets my clutch action sometimes on the bike, feet still work good though.