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Cars On Hills: Cold Start

Cs Hill Steyr
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I was a graphic designer for many years before I found my way into the warm, welcoming embrace of automotive journalism, and one of the things I learned in my years of designing all manner of things is that if you want to add a bit of life and action to an image, make it diagonal. Designs with a stable horizontal or vertical alignment can be balanced or grounded, but they’re not going to have the exciting dynamism (to steal all carmaker’s favorite PR word, maybe now eclipsed by “DNA”) of a diagonally-oriented design. Maybe that’s why there’s so many images in brochures of cars climbing hills, very diagonally.

I found three nice examples without even trying very hard: that wonderful Steyr Puch 500, possibly the best license-built Fiat 500 variant of them all, is the one up top there, and it’s climbing a pretty significant hill: a 30% grade, according to the brochure, the most it can climb. I wonder how fast it can climb that grade? My Changli can climb hills, but my kid can run up them faster – this is why I wonder.

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Cs Hill Corvair

That Corvair is blasting up a good hill, too, and that one is the Monza, the first turbocharged car (well, along with the Oldsmobile Jetfire) to be sold in real quantities. These Monzas could make 150 hp, which is really damn impressive for an early-to-mid-’60s car. Also, why does the wind just seem to be affecting the kid? Oh, maybe the windshield?

Cs Hill Toronado

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Here’s the third hill-climber, a Toronado, which allegedly, is more in than “ho-hum” driving, a pretty bold statement. I also just realized that all three examples I found by chance all have drive wheels at the same end as their engines: two rear-engine/RWD cars and one front engine/FWD car. No driveshafts here! I wonder if that means something?

Speaking of hills and climbing, maybe it would be wise to watch an old hillclimb, complete with cars, climbing hills:

Don’t forget about that diagonal thing for your next design project, even if it’s just, say, a lost hamster poster or something. Everything is more exciting at an angle!

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Rust Buckets
Rust Buckets
10 months ago

I just want to point out that 150hp was not “really damn impressive” even in the early 60s. It was very good for a compact economy car like the Corvair, Falcon, and Valiant.

In 1962 Ford was selling cars with factory 375hp 390s.

Autonerdery
Autonerdery
10 months ago

Psst, Torch, a first-gen Corvair’s gotta say “Spyder” under the Monza badge to have a turbo. This one doesn’t, so its output would be somewhere between 80-102 HP (110 if it were a ’64, which it’s not), as the Monza trim could be had with any of the naturally-aspirated engines. The flat six is decently torquey, though, so any of them would do fine on that San Francisco hill.

Not Sure
Not Sure
10 months ago

Classic examples of the proclivity for acclivities in design.

Alan Christensen
Alan Christensen
10 months ago

I think showing vehicles on hills is required with brands like Donkervoort, Vandenbrink, VDL, Waaijinberg and Spyker. They must use the Dutch angle.

Mike Smith
Mike Smith
10 months ago

LOL, google ‘Dutch angle’ for a funny treat.

Jbavi
Jbavi
10 months ago
Reply to  Mike Smith

woah

Andy Individual
Andy Individual
10 months ago
Reply to  Mike Smith

Not as good as ‘Dutch rudder’.

OverlandingSprinter
OverlandingSprinter
10 months ago

Okay, THIS one is NSFW.

Mike Smith
Mike Smith
10 months ago

Yeah, I figured. GG Andy I., but I decided to stay away from that search term today.

OverlandingSprinter
OverlandingSprinter
10 months ago
Reply to  Mike Smith

I was expecting something NSFW. Reading about Dutch Angle is SFW, and enlightening. We’ve all noticed Dutch Angle, and now we know this effect has a name. Cool.

Collegiate Autodidact
Collegiate Autodidact
10 months ago

In 1989 or so a bartender at the restaurant where I was working was in the process of acquiring a Fiat Multipla (!!) that was sitting in a local farmer’s field; he brought the glovebox manual to work one night and it was particularly fascinating to read. Among the bits of advice the manual dispensed was how to climb hills (complete with charts and graphs, etc) and for particularly steep hills they said to go up in reverse because the reverse gear had a ratio tall enough to handle such steep grades. Now one wonders if the bartender was successful in his quest for acquisition and what he had to deal with in terms of rust thanks to the Multipla being “farm fresh” (as they say here in East Tennessee about cars that have been sitting in fields.)

Chronometric
Chronometric
10 months ago

My Fiat 500 has a similar “How to Drive” manual with lovely cartoon illustrations and fantastic advice. I would like every new driver (and a few oldtimers) to read it.

Andy Individual
Andy Individual
10 months ago

A great tip I learned years ago is that if you are having trouble getting traction in the snow on a hill in a front wheel drive vehicle, drive up in reverse.

John Patson
John Patson
10 months ago

The Corvair is driving against the type face, while the Toronado (thought that was a cut of beef) is with the type face.
That is enough to make a kid’s hair stand up!
Unless they are in reverse — cunning sods do not show if the reversing lights are on.
Reverse used to be the lowest gear going and if you could not go up forwards, you could backwards. Bit like life really….

Chronometric
Chronometric
10 months ago
Reply to  John Patson

RWD vs FWD.

Collegiate Autodidact
Collegiate Autodidact
10 months ago

Pretty cool to see that film of a hill climb from 1949. They still hold hill climbs today and there’s many a video of such hill climbs replete with passengers bouncing (‘bumping’ as in the 1949 film) in surprisingly successful efforts to improve traction. It can be a hoot to see, especially when it’s families with children or grandchildren, pipsqueaks that they are, contributing to such efforts at gaining traction. And the various iterations of the Austin 7 are always fun to watch, especially with some having horsepower barely in the double-digit territory.
A couple examples of such videos:
https://youtu.be/dkcTxMcChQ0?si=S0-Mb4f83whzs7rP
https://youtu.be/3qj-usfMO6Q?si=xWp02pRjbrOcxE_X

Laika
Laika
10 months ago

As a bonus the angle allows the subject to be bigger and fill more of the frame.

Mike Smith
Mike Smith
10 months ago

::squints at lead picture::
A Styr Puch 500 is rated to climb a 30% max grade, huh?
::copies into MS paint, takes some point coordinates, does some calculations::
Well, those ladies are in trouble, because they’re sitting on a 39% grade. I hope no one they care about is standing behind them.
Of course, the photographer might have just tilted their camera a bit…

Doctor Nine
Doctor Nine
10 months ago

Never really understood that saying.

If I can get my ho to hum, I’m having a pretty good time.

10001010
10001010
10 months ago

Don’t forget about that diagonal thing for your next design project, even if it’s just, say, a lost hamster poster or something. Everything is more exciting at an angle!

I decided to put Torch’s advice into action and pulled up the developer console, located the <body> element, and manually added the style ‘transform: rotate(30deg);’ which sure enough made this page diagonal. It was certainly exciting! I mean, it was also unusable, but definitely exciting.

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
10 months ago

This puts an interesting slant on things.

Last edited 10 months ago by Canopysaurus
OCS-BN
OCS-BN
10 months ago

Something mysterious is going on in the Steyr picture. The driver’s ponytail is clearly not obeying the rules of gravitation. Witchcraft?

Cheats McCheats
Cheats McCheats
10 months ago
Reply to  OCS-BN

The power of hairspray!

Doctor Nine
Doctor Nine
10 months ago

And now I’m going to have a John Waters theme song in my head all morning…

Jakob K's Garage
Jakob K's Garage
10 months ago

It means a lot to have the engine and drive wheels together, but you of course knew that 🙂
Here my favourite video on that subject: https://youtu.be/Pj_U2sKiIHQ

Interrobang‽
Interrobang‽
10 months ago

As a current graphic designer, all I have to add is damn you, Torch, for getting Duran Duran stuck in my head.

Bob
Bob
10 months ago

Torch, just as an historical touchstone – and, clearly, for no other reason – check into the “boufant” hairstyles of the Monza’s day and the once substantial use of hairspray.

And, of note and unlike the other images, the Monza is climbing a real hill past (mostly) vertical buildings.

Last edited 10 months ago by Bob
Chronometric
Chronometric
10 months ago

I once climbed to the top of Lookout Mountain in my 1917 Stephens touring car. The grade near the top is very steep and I resorted to first gear. I swear I could feel every piston stroke as the car clawed it’s way to the peak.

For the record, my Fiat 500 is pretty gutsy and would get there. My Corvair Monza (also NOT a turbocharged Spyder) would breeze up the hill without breaking a sweat.

Last edited 10 months ago by Chronometric
SageWestyTulsa
SageWestyTulsa
10 months ago

Right? We need to know more. What else is in your collection?

Chronometric
Chronometric
10 months ago
Reply to  SageWestyTulsa

BMW 2002, Austin Healey 3000, Lotus Eleven, NA Miata. Alas, no Toronados.

Last edited 10 months ago by Chronometric
Chronometric
Chronometric
10 months ago

When you get back on your feet, anytime you want to do a Jason Drives segment let me know. I am in Atlanta. Here is a picture of my Stephens on top of Lookout Mountain. https://photos.app.goo.gl/G8CLhyLCWszBmcHk8

Ranwhenparked
Ranwhenparked
10 months ago
Reply to  Chronometric

That’s right, the one in the picture is a regular NA Monza, not a turbocharged Monza Spyder, just a dress up package that added bucket seats and extra chrome. There was also technically a 4 speed manual on the floor, but you could order the Powerglide with the Monza also

Mr. Asa
Mr. Asa
10 months ago

Of course the wind is just affecting the kid. I remember stories of the convertible PT Cruiser wind deflector drastically lessening wind noise and buffeting in the rear seats.

That Monza team could have learned something from those Chrysler folk

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