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CDs Were Absolute Garbage For Use In A Car And I’m Glad They’re Dead And Gone

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I’m someone who has a lot of fondness for old, obsolete media. In my office, I am surrounded by, let’s see, six different old computers that use 5.25″ floppy drives (ranging from 90K to 360K) as their primary storage medium, two that use two different formats of 3.5″ floppies, and between five and seven that use some manner of cassette-based storage. Then there’s all the different cartridge-based consoles, and even one that can also use these funny little cards. There’s an eight-inch floppy hanging on my wall, too, and a big Bullwinkle laserdisc down here. I clearly have some perverse love for old media. And yet, despite all this, I hate compact discs (CDs) and am happy they’re gone.

That’s right, I said it: fuck CDs. Granted, this take is probably at least a decade or maybe even two too late to, you know, matter, but I have been encountering more and more people who profess some nostalgia for those shiny discs, and to those people I just have to say, with all due respect, knock it off. CDs are not worth your nostalgia, because they’re charmless and clumsy and cumbersome, and it’s good we’ve moved on.

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More specifically, I think CDs were especially garbage when it came to using them in cars, one of the best places to listen to music, period. I’m not just saying this from some elevated and removed position of objective assessment, this all comes from someone who was there, dammit, who lived with these things and wanted them to be great, only to be sorely disappointed.

I tried, dammit. I tried to like these things, because when they first hit the scene, it was genuinely exciting. The first commercial CD came out in 1982, and everyone lost their shit. It was being hyped all over the media, where they claimed it was the perfect new medium, completely resistant to dust and scratches, and would make everything else obsolete:

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Much of this is, of course, absolutely true: lasers did read the music off the disc, they were compact, the audio quality was great, but everything about dust and scratch resistance was complete horseshit. CDs were fragile and annoying.

When I got my first CD player, the medium was about 6 or 7 years old; I started with cassettes in my first cars, a ’68 Volkswagen Beetle, soon to be replaced by a ’71 Super Beetle. I finally got a cheap portable CD player for my car maybe around my senior year of high school, and used one of those cassette adapters to connect it to my terrible Sparkomatic speakers I had clumsily installed in my doors.

That’s when I learned how absurdly sensitive CDs were to skipping. A Beetle is hardly the smoothest car in the world, but my cassettes never cared a bit about that. These princesses that were CDs, though, would panic at the slightest jostle, stuttering and restarting, and being unable to get through the first 10 seconds of a song.

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Eventually, I came up with a solution like you see above, crudely illustrated from hazy memories. In order to get the damn thing to play any song I had to carefully fold at least two layers of impact-absorbing hoodies or sweatshirts or towels and place that under the CD player, which would then be placed squarely in the center of the passenger seat, so the cushioning and springing of the seat could help the process of coddling His Majesty The Great And Sensitive CD Player just right.

Of course, this was useless if you had a friend with you in the car, and the whole setup required near-constant maintenance and monitoring. But somehow I stuck with it, babying this absurd contraption for hours and hours on road trips, just so I could listen to, say, Hey or Lovecats or Rock Lobster at full volume.

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Now, sure, many cars came with in-dash CD players, ones specifically engineered for the automotive environment, and those did not skip. They were vastly better. But, even with the right equipment, CDs still sucked.

The problem is that the physical form of a CD is simply not well-suited to being played in a car. The disc itself is far too fussy about how it must be handled. Remember holding CDs by their edges, being careful not to get any fingerprints on the bottom, because then it wouldn’t play? That’s ridiculous.

Drop one on your car’s floor? The CD is likely boned. Have any crap on your floormats that could scratch a sensitive CD’s surface? Of course you do, because everything could scratch them. Saying the word “grit” to a CD loudly enough could scratch it.

Compare that to plastic cassette tapes, which could be lost in your car for months, until finally found under a floor mat, partially adhered to the carpet via a combination of mud, grime, and probably some vomit. You could just pick it up, give it a quick perfunctory wipe on your pant leg to get off the biggest chunks, thunk it in the cassette slot on your head unit, and that motherfucker would play.

Not only that, but the packaging that CDs came in were awful, too. “Jewel cases” is what they were called, and they were miserable, miserable things.

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Remember those? Even outside of a car, in the stable environment of a home on dry, non-seismic ground, they also sucked. If you had a stack of them, their nearly non-existent surface friction meant that every stack of three or more CDs was likely to come crashing down if you just looked at it too intently.

And whenever these cases encountered even the slightest bit of physical trauma, one or both of those little hinge tabs on the cover would break off, making the whole thing an even less stable mess.

Because these cases were such garbage, most people, especially for in-car purposes, would take their CDs out of the cases, then slide all of their CDs into these big binder things:

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The binders themselves were a decent solution to the considerable problem of CD storage, but then you were left with big stacks of empty, usually somewhat broken jewel cases, which still usually had all of the album art and liner notes you wanted to save, so they just took up space somewhere, devaluing everything around them.

Yes, CDs let you jump to any track. Great. They could hold a good amount of music. Fine. I would have sacrificed either of those traits for a music medium that was less of a hassle to handle, use, store, maintain, everything. Cassettes were better. Vinyl records have their own kind of novel charm. What do CDs have?

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Fuck-all, that’s what. Well, wait, I take that back: the lightning show they’d give when you put them in a microwave was pretty fun:

Aside from that, CDs were garbage, and I’m so glad not to have to deal with them anymore. For a good 20 years, these things were absolutely everywhere, and it was hell. I know it’s annoying to have to re-buy all your music on new formats, but I was happy to do it when everything went digital.

I get nostalgia for obsolete media. Of course I do. But I cannot give CDs that sort of attention, because they did not and never will deserve it. The current noncorporeal nature of modern music playing in cars, where everything is streamed from the internet or a USB drive or something like that may lack a certain character, but it’s so much better to live with.

So, if you’re young and being lured by the shiny, rainbow-reflecting allure of the CD, perhaps considering starting a semi-ironic collection of your own, hear this: stop. Don’t do it.

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Go further back and collect cassette tapes, or even 8-tracks, which were also garbage but at least they were fun garbage. CDs are not fun. They’re the self-satisfied prima donnas of music media, and I will happily support launching all remaining ones into the sun.

So there.

 

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Bkp
Bkp
1 day ago

Love your writing Torch, but you’re waaaay wrong on this one.

Other Autopians have already pointed out how far off base you are and why, many fine post on that, so I won’t get into the details on that for now.

In my commute car, I mostly listen to Sirius XM (all my fave FM stations went away) but still have some CDs in two visor holders to play occasionally. Being a bit fussy about what happens to my physical media, the CD are all copies (copied from my personal collection onto TDK blank CDRs). Because sometimes I just want to listen to The Doors first album or The Beach Boys “Pet Sounds” for the millionth time.

For a long road trip I did last spring, I have ~1000 CDs ripped to FLAC, copied those onto a micro SD on my phone and voila, lots and lots of road trip tunes.

I still buy CDs because I want to OWN the music and not worry about streaming rights and DRM and what have you.

Joke #119!
Joke #119!
1 day ago

Dumb take.
Your CD player sucked. Simple logic.
CDs were WAY better than both LPs and cassettes.
My Matrix came with a six-CD changer right in the dash. Awesome, until it hiccupped and almost ate six of my CDs. Installed the replacement that allowed me to put my iPod into a drawer behind the screen. It also read my iPod very well, so I downloaded a bunch of my music onto it. But it fried the iPod if left in the car in the heat too long (on my third one of those). Then it broke, too.
Third one sucks as it does not read the iPod for some reason. No hidden drawer. It was only $100, so buying a different one soon.

Anyone have ideas on how to upgrade a car antenna? I’m not getting radio as good as I think I should. No, not buying Sirius. I’ve got enough entertainment subscriptions.
Might be the wiring. Car is 20+ years old, after all.

Andy Individual
Andy Individual
1 day ago

Jason, you really need to invest in some magnetic core memory for your PDP-11.

As for in car music, I just drive around with my personal mariachi band in the back. That’s what seven seat SUVs are for.

Cars? I've owned a few
Cars? I've owned a few
19 hours ago

Ha!

Shane
Shane
1 day ago

Mate, maybe you had some crap players but CDs in my cars weren’t nearly as sensitive to fingerprints and minor scratches as you’ve described.
What I can remember is cassettes warping if left on the seat on a hot sunny day, tapes being chewed up, and inconsistent playback speeds.
Each format had its issues but I reckon you’re being a bit hard on the poor old CD.

TheDrunkenWrench
TheDrunkenWrench
1 day ago

Torch, it sounds like all your gripes come from an inability to handle the media. Which is very much a “you” problem.

I was stoked when we graduated from cassettes to CDs, and it was WAY easier to make my own once burners went mainstream.

Fun fact about CDs, the factory ones are stamped, with physical “peaks” and “valleys” that defined the ones and zeros.

Burnt CDs just made light and dark spots to replicate that.

That’s why you always had to burn discs slower if you wanted to use them in any older CD players. They couldn’t read the imposter burn marks effectively.

I never burnt a disc at full speed if it was for music.

KevinB
KevinB
1 day ago

As I understood it back in the day, CD players didn’t read music, but a series of codes. These coded corresponded with a particular pitch. The combination of pitches blended to create the music. If there is a scratch or imperfection on the CD and the laser reads an invalid code, that code is ignored, resulting in no hisses, skips, or pops.

They were great in the day, and far better than vinyl records. However, my smart phone is now my music library. I have Bluetooth adapters that plug into the 3.5mm jacks on my old Sierra and very old Sony home stereo. BTW, my 17-year-old Sierra, which I bought new, has a single CD player. I don’t know if it works or not because I never used it.

And Jason, your first CD player must have been a cheap model with a poorly built laser arm.

Comme çi, come alt
Comme çi, come alt
1 day ago

No. We know you can afford to replace all your physical media because you could afford a house in Silver Lake and a stake in The Autopian, this earning you a spot up against the wall until your whimsy saves you at the last minute, but the rest of us cannot. I still morn the six lost discs of five albums (Kind of Blue was on two discs) when I couldn’t get them out of my totaled car.

Bkp
Bkp
1 day ago

Which version/pressing of “Kind of Blue” was that?

Comme çi, come alt
Comme çi, come alt
22 hours ago
Reply to  Bkp

I don’t remember. It was remastered and on a Lightning Deal the last time I was unemployed, in 2010. Impulse buy.

Bkp
Bkp
3 hours ago

Aha. Well, if you have yet to get around to replacing it, there are a bunch of pressings out there, most of the later ones have the speed correction for side 1 (the first 3 tracks). If you bought a remastered two disc version in 2010, it probably had that correction. In any case, rightly thought of as one of the best jazz albums ever.

Geoff Campbell
Geoff Campbell
1 day ago

Well….I have been buying more CDs just for the old old car player .. My new laptop won’t play any sort of media. So digital is all the rage, and now that includes the common disappointment with radio style programming we went to CDs for initially…
Probably worth keeping the old Honda because it has a working CD player ????

Lockleaf
Lockleaf
1 day ago

Loves me some CDs still. Though yes, rarely still in the car. However, the in dash 6 cd changer fixed many issues. Pre select your days music before driving, yet still have a wide variety at your fingertips.

Sound quality is the clearest option of nearly all media. Streaming media basically never hits the bit rates of CD music. So if you have good enough speakers, it can make a difference to the audiophile. I appreciate that.

The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
1 day ago

“if you’re young and being lured by the shiny, rainbow-reflecting allure of the CD, perhaps considering starting a semi-ironic collection of your own”

Way to make me feel old, Torch. I remember when I got my first CD player. It seemed so futuristic and cool, unlike those tapes and records my boomer parents listened to. I can’t say I miss CDs, but I’m sad to hear something so popular in my youth is now ironically collected by young hipsters.

I know I’m not a youth anymore, but I rarely think of myself as old. After reading this, I think it is time to buy a sports car I don’t really want, dye my hair, and start hitting on 25-year-olds.

Totally not a robot
Totally not a robot
1 day ago

My coworker is a youth. He’s only a few years younger than me, but he acts like it’s a few millennia. Maybe he knows something I don’t and I actually do already have a foot in the grave.

JP15
JP15
1 day ago

My dad had a Sony “Car Discman” he bought for his 1991 Camry. It came with a cassette tape adaptor and supposedly had some kind of damper mechanism for anti-skip, but it didn’t even remotely work. He went back to tapes and AM sports radio.

Fast forward 10 years, and now he had an E39 5-series with a six CD changer in the trunk. This was fantastic as six CDs took a while to play through, he could store a few extras next to the changer in the trunk, and by that time “anti-skip” didn’t just mean mechanical dampening, but the player would also buffer the music file several seconds ahead into flash memory, so any laser skips could be rectified as the listener was just hearing the buffered playback, not the realtime reading.

My 2003 WRX had a six CD changer in the dash, but MP3 and iPod connected stereos were fairly common by 2010 when I bought the car, so I swapped out the CD changer for an aftermarket MP3 deck.

My Goat Ate My Homework
My Goat Ate My Homework
1 day ago

Sound quality is amazing though. I can still tell the difference, especially listening in the car. All that compressed garbage nowadays sucks. And don’t get me started on the over-the-air FM station and their high compression crap.

I still love to carefully and gingerly slide in a CD and enjoy the unadulterated sound. Also, no worries about the tape getting completely eaten or the 8-track tape getting ripped off the end of the spool, or a massive equally scratchable vinyl disk that you have to carry in a backpack.

I tolerate MP3s and streaming for the convenience, but nothing beats CDs for that crystal clear sound.

PS, they’re just not old enough to be cool yet. Your kids will get it.

Papa Bruyant
Papa Bruyant
1 day ago

Already happening…had to replace the dash unit in my daughter’s car, and her only requirement was that it have a CD player. Didn’t care about BT, touch screens, any of it. Granted, she’s stolen most of my old collection, but at least I know she’s listening to the good stuff.

Data
Data
1 day ago

My first car was a 1985 Nissan Pulsar NX. I bought a new Technics casette deck that had an aux in port. Sadly finding a dual ended stereo cord around 1989 was a fools errand so I built one using parts from Radio Shack. I velcroed my Sony Discman to the transmission tunnel in front of the 5-speed and never experienced a skip.

Later i replaced the head unit with a Sony disc player; also no skipping issues encountered. The jewel cases were utter trash though, freaking tabs breaking if you look at them wrong.

Myk El
Myk El
1 day ago

CDs in players designed for automotive use were awesome. Cassette cases were no better than CD cases, but CD folders were far superior to any cassette holder you could find (believe me, I tried). A CD never got eaten inside in my player unlike a few tapes I could name. So I say, Jason, you are factually incorrect.

Having said all that, I think in car music peaked with the iPod adapters. Streaming off your phone is not all that great even with your music on your phone stored locally.

EXL500
EXL500
1 day ago

I’m picking out CDs to play in my car tomorrow (in dash player) in response to your screed. I’ve been enjoying silence – well, my Honda’s engine – for some time, and I’ll take some time to look through my 200 CDs to pick some.

You know, the CDs in the custom wall unit I paid $2K for before the bastards said you’re yesterdays news if you aren’t streaming. Bitter? Why would you think that?

Mgb2
Mgb2
1 day ago

I’m gonna go with this being a very bad take. Rocked a portable player with cassette adapter for many years. The buffer never had a problem handling jostles. Did your portable unit come in a blister pack for $20 at Walgreens?

And it’s not that big of a challenge to get a disc out of the wallet and load it while driving.

pizzaman09
pizzaman09
1 day ago

I don’t mind CDs. I have 6 CDs loaded into the disk changer of my BMW e36 and I have a couple mix CDs burned that are in my Jeep MJ. My mother has 6 of her favorite CDs loaded into the trunk of her daily driver BMW e38. They work well.

I do have a thumb drive in my 8th Gen Civic Si as the CD player just tries to eat the CDs you put in it while simultaneously not play them.

Dottie
Dottie
1 day ago

Growing up at the tail end of the cassette era where CDs and MP3 players were the new hotness, there is some nostalgia to popping in a CD and rocking out to the 00s hits, but I do agree that CDs as a medium kinda stink. My woes are mostly with gaming where scratches made games unplayable and the Xbox 360s horrible CD tray design made mine eat discs like a buffet. But the last time I had to actually use a CD was to submit my college thesis because flash drives are just not archaic enough 🙂

Ash78
Ash78
1 day ago

People: Nobody would dare show up on a Gen X-dominated website and malign CDs, would they?

Torch: Hold my Beer. It’s a Reel Big Fish import maxi-single from Japan. Be careful. The B-side is an unreleased track called “We’re too good for ska.”

AircooleDrew
AircooleDrew
1 day ago

I have a cd player in my 2023 Crosstrek. I personally think it’s rad that even with the upgraded 8″ headunit, I still can play my old cd’s.

I love modern tech, and carplay just as much as the next person, but there’s just something about pulling out a physical cd on a road trip, and popping it in.

I suppose we have to agree to disagree on this one.

EXL500
EXL500
1 day ago

We’ll have to agree to disagree. Our little curated selection piloted us through many thousands of mile with lovely CD tunes. Admittedly we haven’t played them as much on our recent multi-thousand mile trips since we’ve chosen to talk to each other almost exclusively.

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Ash78
Ash78
1 day ago

I’ve been reading Torch’s work for more than a decade now and this might be the worst, most incorrect opinion I’ve seen on a mainstream car site in my lifetime.

However, I’m too late and too exhausted to type out a rebuttal so I’ll just peruse the replies instead.

I still like you, JT. I’ll let this one slide. It’s been a long week.

Angrycat Meowmeow
Angrycat Meowmeow
1 day ago
Reply to  Ash78

I kinda get it. For the vast majority of people who are cool with listening to whatever they’re playing on FM, a CD really offers nothing. If you can listen to FM and say “yeah, this sounds fine” then odds are you dgaf about whether or not it could sound better. For the rest of us, the night and day difference in sound quality and choosing your own tracks was absolutely worth the hassle.

Stacks
Stacks
1 day ago

I’ve never heard of anyone else having every possible problem you could have with a CD, all at once, for like 20 years straight. You drop a CD and it’s done? Did you know most CD were not in fact manufactured as a layer of fragile glass mere microns thick? It’s super weird you got those, instead of the normal kind! CDs in other parts of the world could actually be just wiped off with a sleeve or a napkin, or even have deep scratches buffed out and play good as new. They were in fact the ONLY physical medium that could survive any kind of direct physical damage and come back as if nothing had ever happened.

Portable CD player makers had the skipping thing figured out by like 1985.

You could take the liner notes out and put them in the folder sleeve with the disc.

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Jnnythndrs
Jnnythndrs
1 day ago

This is as bad a take as the timing-belt fiasco.

I came of age when cassettes were king, 8-tracks were just about gone, and car stereos were expensive and desirable. Cassettes SUUUUUUUCKED. Between the constant hiss, the fast-forwarding through lousy songs and the unpleasant surprise of a consumed tape, everything about them was bad. When CD’s came around, it was like magic – much better sound, smaller footprint and less delicate. If you were reasonably careful, they’d last a remarkably long time when used in vehicles. I have some dating from 1989 that still play OK.

I will agree 100% about the absolutely craptacular CD case, with their guaranteed-to-be-broken tabs. It’s one of the worst things ever to become a standard and never change.

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TheBadGiftOfTheDog
TheBadGiftOfTheDog
1 day ago

Fun fact: I never liked the CD format. I never collected more than a handful of CDs. I did use the on-seat portable method but it was for security. Driving an open-top jeep meant people were always getting into it to try stealing anything not welded in place, including several attempts to rip out a trashy radio kept in place by a roll cage. I had a cheap, tiny 5 band EQ with an input jack in the glovebox which I cut and modified to have a padlock on it. This carried over to my ’73 Chevy pickup. Hidden cheap EQ in the glovebox and a portable player as the music source.
In the 90’s, though, I started building in-car audio systems. Custom boxes. Huge amps. Crossovers. Subwoofers. I rocked a 900W system in the tiny space of an ’84 Mazda B-2000 Sundowner Sport until around 2001. I still don’t have many CDs, but I have a massive library of cassette tapes.

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