Good morning! We’re starting the week off by looking at two cheap used Hondas, a make that, possibly more than any other, only offers two choices: “Good grief that’s a lot of miles,” or “That poor car.” I think I already know which one you’re all going to choose, but we’ll do our due diligence.
Friday was all about old pokey German sedans, but only one of them is the sort of car you’d expect to be pokey. It’s the winner, and probably not coincidentally, the one that sold over the weekend: that cool old Mercedes 220. Several of you mentioned that it gave off “third-world dictator vibes;” I think that’s part of its charm, actually.
The BMW, on the other hand, is the right style, in a decent color combination, but equipped with the wrong engine and transmission, and with way too many miles. It might still be fun to tinker with, but it would take a lot of tinkering.
Now then: Despite my ambivalence towards a lot of Japanese cars, I have grown awfully fond of ’80s and ’90s Hondas over the years, especially those with manual transmissions. They’re driver’s cars to the core: light, crisp, ergonomically friendly, and eager. They’re also built like tanks, despite the lightness, and have a well-earned reputation for reliability and durability – as long as you keep an eye out for rust.
But because of all that wonderful engineering, they also became the darlings of the “tuner” crowd, and a lot of them suffered at the hands of enthusiastic amateurs armed with a plethora of questionable aftermarket parts. These days, if you want a cheap stickshift Honda, you have to choose between a bazillion miles, and a bazillion mods. Today, we’re going to look at one of each.
1994 Honda Accord LX – $2,250
Engine/drivetrain: 2.2-liter overhead cam inline 4, five-speed manual, FWD
Location: Sunnyvale, CA
Odometer reading: 280,000 miles
Operational status: Doesn’t say, actually
Ask a car-literate person for advice on what cheap used car to buy, the answer will probably be either a Toyota Camry or a Honda Accord. For me, the choice between the two depends on who’s asking the question. If it’s someone who isn’t typically a car person, who just needs to get around, I’ll suggest the Camry. If it’s someone who doesn’t really know cars, but likes driving, I suggest an Accord, specifically one with a manual transmission.
The Accord has always been a nice car, but around the third and fourth generations, it really came into its own. By the time this fifth generation Accord was built in 1994, it had just about reached perfection: it was now mid-sized, but still not too big or cumbersome; the 2.2 liter four ran like a sewing machine, and the five-speed gearbox was, as it always had been, a delight to run through the gears. This one just passed a smog test, so I imagine it runs just fine, though the ad doesn’t say for sure.
It looks good inside for having that many miles. It’s a mid-level LX model, which means cloth seats but power windows and locks and whatnot. There’s a little wear and tear, and it has an aftermarket stereo, but unless it has a funny smell or something, I can’t imagine it’s anything but a nice place to be.
Fifth-generation Accords came in some cool colors, including a really great dark green, but unfortunately the original buyer of this one chose this champagne beige. Ah well; you can travel incognito, at least. It’s faded and has a couple minor dings and scrapes, but at this mileage, I’d be more surprised if it didn’t.
1990 Honda Civic – $1,800
Engine/drivetrain: 1.5-liter overhead cam inline 4, four-speed manual, FWD
Location: Longview, WA
Odometer reading: 237,000 miles
Operational status: This one doesn’t say either; stupid dealerships
The Accord’s smaller sibling, the Civic, never has been as fancy. Well, it is nowadays; all cars are fancy now. But back in the early ’90s, you could still get a base-model Civic that was really a base model: no power anything, no air conditioning, no hubcaps, not even a fifth gear. This is such a car, but it has had a few additions over the years.
This is where the rear seat used to be. It appears that someone was trying to build a giant speaker box in the back out of plywood and fiberglass. I don’t know if the goal was to turn it into one of those stereo competition cars, or something, but if you buy this car it comes with a couple hundred pounds of crap in the back you’ll have to throw out.
Ironically, it does not come with a stereo; there’s just a gaping hole in the dash. There are speakers in one door, and a bunch on the floor in the back that I think were supposed to go in the other door. I don’t know car stereo stuff well enough to know the brand; I’m guessing they’re cheap garbage, but if anyone wants to enlighten me in the comments, feel free.
The ad gives no indication of its mechanical condition, but it has current tags, and, well, it’s a Honda Civic. Unless someone has done something catastrophically cruel to it, I imagine it runs just fine. It looks a little beat-up, but if you just ditch all the misguided stereo stuff, it becomes just a decent little Civic hatch again. I think. Unless there are more “mods” hiding somewhere.
Honestly, these are probably both acceptable used cars. But I have a feeling the condition and the equipment of one of them is going to overcome the $450 price discount of the other. But maybe not; maybe the simplicity and “blank canvas” nature of the hatchback will appeal to some of you, especially those of you who like to swap engines and such. I’ll be curious to see how this one turns out.
(Image credits: Craigslist sellers)
both seem to be at somewhat sketchy buy here, pay here business. I think the accord is probably less sketchy as far as cars go, but I am not sure I would want to buy either from those places.
I’ll be the odd man out this time.
I’d still take the EF. Gut that stupid garbage in the back, find some door panels, and tune it up… I bet you could get $3500 for it. Put some more time and effort into it and you can build a nice driver for cheap.
And having driven both of these, the accord drives nothing like the EF.
Also I am heavily biased.
I’ll support you. While the Accord is clearly the superior choice from a practical perspective, I already have a nice daily built this decade. That leaves us with fun as the only motivation, and a beige 90s sedan ain’t that.
There is a CASC ice racing series in my town that the EF would likely be quite competitive in, and this example strikes a nice balance between not too rusty, but already too far gone to feel guilty about racing an original example. More fun and unique than a Kia Rio or whatever.
With any luck, the “dB Drag Racing” mods kept the previous owner distracted from messing up the drivetrain.
Great video by the way, I loved the garage door reveal scene! I’ll check out more of your channel later.
If that is you & your car in the video, yeah. The EF SI was the one to have (I had an 89 SI w/o the stupid belts and it was my favorite car ever). I’m blown away by the condition of the car in the video.
The offered EF under discussion is NOT that car. Run away, as fast as the SI can carry you.
That Civic is destined to be gutted and turned into a race car. I’m not paying $1800 to do that much work. Gimme the Accord.
I had a 92 Accord LX and loved it. I got it as a hand me down from my dad, and learned a lot of what not to do with that car. I remember the distributor blew and I had to limp it 4 hours back home, stopping every so often to buy more oil to pour into it. Got it repaired, and it kept running until it decided to have the timing belt come apart right before the 2009 flood, and got water damaged in addition to the timing belt issue.
Stupid bearing over rotor technology, dumbest brakes I have ever seen.
Indeed. Not looking forward to dealing with those captive rotors on my new to me 94 Accord. I’ll throw brake pads at it and hope to never touch those rotors.
I unbolted the whole upright and took those to a shop with a giant press, and then listed the car for sale. I liked how it looked but the previous gen with pop ups was a better car, better suspension, etc.
Yeah, I was already in there replacing upper and lower ball joints and had the whole assembly out. I probably should have replaced the rotors then but they looked ok and I wasn’t looking for extra work. Those ball joints were the last of a long string of repairs from putting it on the road after sitting several years. Something was going wrong weekly and I was sick of fixing it. It’s been good now for 9 months so I think it’s all sorted out.
“Several of you mentioned that it gave off “third-world dictator vibes;” I think that’s part of its charm, actually.”
Good grief. Looks like the commentariat (so to speak) and at least some of the writers on this website are turning into Jeremy Clarkson 2.0. Is that supposed to be a feature rather than a bug?
*eye roll*
Speaking of 3rd world dictators…
See you after the election.
“A riot is a serious thing.” (Constable from Young Frankenstein)
I owned one of those Civics with no options and a 4-speed a long time ago. It was very reliable (hard not to be with nothing to break on it) and it saved my butt when a pickup truck sideswiped it. But I think this one is in such poor shape that you would end up putting more into it than it is worth just to get it to daily driver status.
I came in fully expecting to vote for the Civic, but, ouch. Meanwhile the Accord will still provide years of solid driver service. Count me with the 95% here.
7 for the civic? my guess is 7 peeps want to save it from the crusher lol
I’ll take the 94 Accord…
HOLY CRAP! 95.3% to 4.7%!? This is the biggest difference I’ve seen yet on this site!!!
I have a white 94 Accord with an auto. How I wish it were a 5 speed like this one. The automatic is, by far, the most annoying thing about the car. Mine only has 102k miles so it’ll probably be annoying us for another 10 years.
That Civic? An ex girlfriend had that exact one and I always disliked that it didn’t have a 5 speed, like the 89 Civic wagon I had at the time. Then I saw the interior, oh my..
One of my friends had a world record for the largest seismic event using car sound systems.
I had to drive his sound system car once. All I knew about it was that when he first tested the stereo it blew out the windscreen. I was too scared to press any of the buttons.
That Civic looks pretty lightweight by comparison, and I’d be pretty happy smashing all of that crap out to make a track car. The other option is extremely beige.
I won’t vote for the Civic because of peer pressure, but if I was voting it’d be to rescue that poor thing.
Accord. WTF with that speaker box. If you installed the speakers to justify that enclosure, they would flex it to shreds.
The Accord doesn’t even have THAT many more miles on it than the Civic.
I loved my ’94 Accord Coupe EX. Commuted and took it on an around-the-country trip from LA to Maine and back. Total joy, zero problems. I was a little sad when the lease was up.
I had a 94 Accord LX for many years. It was such a great car. While I only paid $2k for one with 80k on it and that was back in 2011, so the fact that these are more expensive now is crazy to me, but nonetheless, it’s a fantastic car and even if that Civic wasn’t utterly terrifying I would have gone accord for nostalgia, but yeah… The one person who voted for the civic must have done so out of pity and an attempt to save the poor thing. Right?
Must’ve misclicked
My dad had a 1995 Accord EX-R (V-tech yo) in the super dark green. Didn’t learn to drive on it, that honour went to his 1987 Accord hatch but I believe it was the first car I ever drove alone once I got my G2. Was a really nice car that did 313,000 km before the southern Ontario rust got the best of it. The final straw was when he hit a clump of slush that detached some of the rusted out exhaust and he decided that he wasn’t going to pay to repair what would likely be the entire exhaust system on a 10 year old car with that kind of mileage.
Years later I hit that point with an Impreza. Flex pipe rotted out and that was the final straw for me with that car. Wouldn’t have been overly expensive to fix but why on a car of that age with some worrisome rust.
who the FUCK voted for that Civic? Did the seller find this article and vote on it? Or some other sock puppet? LOL
I am so scared of that Civic.
Egads it’s almost like the election.
+1
I just provided the 55th vote for the Accord and there is still only 1 for the Civic. If you are that person please explain yourself immediately. I am looking forward to Mark being the contrarian tomorrow and telling us why the Civic is actually better.
The Civic would make a good shell for an ice racer. Not too many Civics of that era left in Ontario without terminal rust problems. While the interior on this EF is a travesty, it could still make a solid donor for a retro race car.
The Accord is just an old beige commuter car, not much point unless you really need something to get around at that price point. Yes it’s a Honda, but 30 years is getting pretty long in the tooth for that purpose. I’d worry about parts availability, and systems beginning to regularly break down due to age.
Ummm, Mark, you feelin okay this morning?
Oooooof, I was all-in on the civic until that interior. I’d have to get that car for $300 to be interested in fixing that nonsense.
That poor Civic… I mean… just… 0_0.
It’s too loud, I’m too old.
Also, the Accord is from California, the land of rust-free cars.
The Civic, well, it’s not.
That one vote (so far) for the Civic is to guarantee we never have a 100% vote lol
It was not me…
I feel like today’s contestants were chosen specifically to give the Accord as close to a 100% victory as possible.