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Convertible SUVs And Crossovers Are Inevitable So We Might As Well Figure Out How To Make Them Work

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The right answer often comes along at the wrong time.

You might find the perfect partner, or have the ideal job offered to you on a plate, or make the networking home run that allows you to skip ahead two spaces in life, but if you’re too busy going to Burning Man or backpacking across Europe or otherwise occupied at the time, you’ll miss the opportunity for The Ideal Life of Tudor house in Westport, a Volvo wagon, retirement security, or whatever.

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Car companies know this all too well. They can have the perfect mechanical solution or styling direction in a new model, but if the public isn’t ready, it’s bound to flop. In 1934 Chrysler presented a dramatic-looking sedan called the Airflow, with a wind-tunnel-developed shape for better fuel economy and top speed.

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source: Worldwide Auctioneers Auburn

The buying public stayed away in droves from this radical new design. Even fifty years later, the next American manufacturer to apply practical, functional aerodynamics had to endure some referring to the cars as “jellybeans.” Thankfully, and despite the initial backlash, aerodynamically efficient shapes were almost universally accepted within relatively short order, and proved to be a life-saving gamble for 1980s Ford.

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source: Ford

Market hesitance to good, even inevitable, ideas still happens today. See the (very silly) backlash to the original Prius, or the rabid contempt some have even now for battery-electric vehicles. But what I want to turn attention to now is the concept of convertible crossover SUVs. These make a lot of sense and are something that I feel absolutely will happen – I can almost guarantee it. Unfortunately, all of the attempts at an open-top soft-roader so far have met with resistance, to say the least. I think I can fix this.

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A Topless Eagle?

Convertible crossovers might be a hard sell now, but nearly half a century ago even steel-roofed, tall-profile hatchbacks or wagons capable of mild off-pavement running were considered an oddity worthy of ridicule.

Always-struggling American Motors really had nothing to lose in the late seventies, and their Jeep off-road know-how was put into play by turning some of their aging Concord wagons, sedans, and coupes into surprisingly capable multi-terrain vehicles. Dubbed the Eagle, American Motors had arguably created the first crossover SUV. Some might claim that Subaru 4WD wagons really earned that title, but they lacked the Eagle’s central differential to allow for all-wheel drive in any condition; you’d have to pay tens of thousands more to get such a system on one of the few (if only) other cars to offer this back then: the UR Audi Quattro. Later, it was even possible to disconnect the front drive wheels on Eagles for better fuel economy (something that would be nice today as well).

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Images Amc Eagle 1984 1
source: American Motors

First-year sales of 45,000 units were reasonable, but didn’t exactly point to a new trend, nor did they start one then. By 1984, only around half that number was produced; sales then fell off a cliff for the by-then-very-dated Eagle. AMC’s new owners- Chrysler- finally pulled the plug in 1988. Certainly, the Eagle had its fans, but many jokingly called it a “Hornet on stilts”, referring to the basic AMC car that Eagle started life as back in 1970. Talk about a car that was launched about twenty years too early.

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If the Eagle wasn’t exactly a total flop, the convertible model that AMC dealers offered certainly was. Dubbed the Sundancer, this convertible started life as an Eagle coupe and was converted by Griffith, a company that was once famous for putting Ford V8s into TVRs and selling them in pre-regulation American.

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source: Bring A Trailer

Like many convertibles of the early eighties, the Sundancer was not a full roadster. The “B” pillars and roof section connecting them was kept in place for rigidity and ostensibly “rollover” protection. A removable roof section above the front seat while a canvas top over the rear seat folded back onto the package shelf.

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Reportedly, only around 200 convertibles were built, and that number includes some standard non-Eagle Concord coupes as well so the actual number of all-wheel drive droptops is likely lower.

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source: Griffith

Nearly thirty years after the Sundancer bombed, you’d think that the next full convertible version of the now-ubiquitous crossover body style might stand a better chance at sales success. You’d be wrong.

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Mura? No!

Somebody has to be first (or, if you count the Eagle, second) to do anything, and these pioneers are rewarded with either great success or the slings and arrows of a critical public. Sadly, for now-struggling Nissan, the latter was the case for the Murano CrossCabriolet. On paper, cutting the top off of the second generation of the swoopy Nissan crossover sounded like a fun, attractive proposition, but the end result was an oddly proportioned thing that was lambasted by the critics.

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source: Nissan

Land Rover tried again with the 2016 Evoque Convertible; critically it was better received but sold in similar numbers to the much-mocked Nissan before being dumped two years later.

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source: Land Rover

Volkswagen’s 2020 T-Roc convertible fared slightly better, though there are some caveats. The T-Roc was a crossover version of the hyper-popular Golf; it replaced the standard boxy Golf cabriolet which seemed to be loved for its rather quirky looks anyway. Regardless, the open T-Roc has now been dropped from the lineup. Also, despite having the coolest hip-hop-sounding name of any car in recent memory, the open-topped T-Roc wasn’t sold in America, and that’s a must-do if you want to sell a solid number of drop tops. It was, in fact, Europe’s second best-selling convertible at around 11,000 units per year, but that’s a big slice out of a very small pie.

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source: Volkswagen

Why didn’t these soft-top soft-roaders succeed? Roofs have been chopped off tin tops for over a century. What made these things so saleproof?

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Maybe A Convertible Juke Would Have Been Better?

Typically, turning a car into a roadster results in something significantly more attractive than the steel-topped model. However, doing this to the second generation of the swoopy Nissan crossover gave us something that our friend Doug Demuro described as “an overpriced convertible SUV that looks like an angry clothing iron”. I disagree; I think it looked like a fairly happy iron, but regardless this isn’t exactly a roadgoing object of desire.

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source: Nissan 

Jason has mentioned the strange double rear window of the Murano CrossCabriolet as a point of contention, making the thing look even more like a mutant of some kind. The window apparently has to be there to allow a place for the roll bars to automatically deploy through when sensors detect an imminent rollover.

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That feature does indeed look bizarre, but there’s a far bigger issue at play here drawing people’s ire. One aspect of convertibles that many take for granted is they’re often very much about being seen in. Throw on a scarf and you can look like a celebrity in your open-topped car. Sadly, with the Murano, that thick body section made driver and passenger look a bit like mushrooms on a massive log. If you don’t want to look like a kid with his head barely sticking out of a disproportioned “car” made from a giant cardboard appliance box, then you’re too sexy for this car (too sexy by far, in fact). Look how dinky this poor guy looks while driving this thing:

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Indeed, a thirty second Photoshop crop animation of the old Murano CrossCabriolet below shows that even crudely cropping down the sides results in a vehicle that looks far more “normal”.

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That’s the case with essentially all convertible crossovers. Unfortunately, considering that thick body section is what makes an SUV an SUV chopping it down like in the animation above isn’t an option. Still, I see a couple of different things to do with the Sawzall that might be better solutions than the ones we’ve already seen to a crossover convertible.

Idea One: Targa Style Top

Let’s get into the belly of the beast with the new 2025 Murano and actually make some soft-top versions of the current Nissan soft-roader. Here’s the stock guy right here:

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source: Nissan

Looking at these crossover convertibles, you have that thick body section and then nothing but a windshield and headrests sticking above the enormous mass. What if we helped to balance it out with more sheet metal above the beltline? The best idea might be to do a “targa top” style roof with connected “C” pillars forming a “targa bar” in back. Think of a large-scale Fiat X1/9 and that’s what we’re talking about.

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Two more dumb tricks: note the black painted areas below the side windows to make the area look bigger, and the crease line that I added onto the doors and rear quarter panel (since those will be new panels we’d have to make for this version anyway). They don’t do much, but the more we can do to break up that massive visual side mass the better.

Murano Design 2

Now, the roof sections would be way too large and cumbersome to remove by hand, so we’d steal the mechanism idea from Mazda’s own Targa-topped Miata RF. The video below shows how that rear backlight lowers, the targa bar structure raises up and the roof lowers in place, hidden when the targa bar then drops back into position.

In addition to the visual benefits of this targa bar, you eliminate the need for “pop up” rollover protection components, and nobody is going to be able to slice your rigid roof with a box cutter.

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Murao Cabrio 1 Side View Copy A

Murao Cabrio 1 Side View Copy B
source: Nissan

Want to see a different approach? We’ve got more ideas.

Idea Two: Jeep Style

Nobody seems to laugh at what must easily be the best-selling off-road convertible there is now: the Jeep Wrangler! Somehow you just accept that it’s a functional machine, and the big roll cage up top (which they legally won’t call a “roll cage”) is just part of the whole package. The visual mass that it adds above the sort-of beltline visually works.

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What if we try that on the Murano? In some ways, it’s like the overhead crossbar on the Mark I Rabbit/Golf Cabriolet which likely offered some structural rigidity as well as a suggestion of rollover protection. To beef it up some more, I’m thinking a double row of bars with a gap in between that would be filled with roll-down glass “opera” windows. Then we add some smaller “roll bars” in back to give a “fastback” look and a crossbar above and between the passengers that might hold dome lights or sunglass cases.

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Murao Cabrio 2 Side View Copy A

Murao Cabrio 2 Side View Copy B

Suddenly the new Murano CrossCabriolet goes from trying-to-be-sexy car convertible to a sort-of rugged me-too Jeep. Also, I can promise you it won’t feel as wonky driving over railroad tracks as most drop tops with that extra structure as well.

Idea Three: Kidz Bunker

As I said earlier, I didn’t want to do a “normal” convertible version of the Murano since there’s no easy way of making it work. Sadly, my “art director” here, Jason, said that he “still wanted to see a full convertible”, and that a “tonneau with little portholes where passengers could see out might be a good idea”. Oh, Lord. Actually, that sounds like a terrible idea, but I unwittingly signed up for this shit and have to embrace the challenges.

A partial tonneau cover can, indeed, add some perceived sportiness to a car. Ford decided that the 1955-57 2-seater Thunderbird needed to grow two more seats to increase sales in 1958. It worked: sales skyrocketed but some lamented the loss of the original two-place car. As a consolation, Ford explored the idea (reportedly championed by then-Ford man Lee Iacocca) of the Thunderbird Sports Roadster. Introduced in 1962, this version of the T-Bird sported a fiberglass tonneau cover over the rear seats with built-in “headrests” that tapered back like on an old Mercedes 300SLR.

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source: Orlando Classic Cars

The top went up and down even with the tonneau in place, and it was easily removable if you wanted to use the rear seat. The idea never really caught on with sales only in the hundreds each year; it was continued to the “Thelma and Louise” style T-Bird like you see here but dropped after 1964.

1964 Ford Thunderbird

Stil, Jason’s idea has a big problem: a tonneau tall enough to enclose adult rear passengers would need to be so big and tall as to no longer be a tonneau. It would look like a cap on the back of pickup truck.

However, what if you have kids with heads and car seats that don’t even stick above the tops of the seatbacks? They could indeed fit under a lift-up tonneau, and they’d still have little side window slits! Plus, the black areas on the tops of the “headrest” tubes would be skylights for the kids below (so they’ll get sun but you won’t have to worry about slathering them in a mess of sunscreen). The whole tonneau might even stop some buffeting for front-seat passengers and could be kept in place with the top up like on the old T-Bird (or, like that car, removed entirely).

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Think about it: people in minvans with screaming kids in back would pull up next to your Murano and see a glamorous couple going around carefree al fresco and be jealous of those pre-child days. They’d have no idea that you actually had two or three annoying liabilities of your own in back!

Murao Cabrio 3 Side View Copy A

Murao Cabrio 3 Side View Copy B

Yeah, it’s still an absurd concept, but would you expect any less of Mr. Torchinsky? No, you would not.

You Can’t Stop The Drop

In the seventies, convertibles quickly disappeared from the market, but this didn’t mean that people weren’t interested in them. They went away because, at the time, the government reportedly was threatening to institute rollover standards on cares. Once those regulation failed to materialize, they started to reappear again with things like the 1982 Chrysler LeBaron (you just knew it would be Lee Iacocca, right?).

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Today, raw statistics show that sales of convertibles are shrinking again: not even two percent of cars now sold are in this body style. However, I do wonder if this has less to do with disinterest in the drop-top itself than it does the fact that companies are making virtually no cars today that traditionally have been converted to convertibles, namely coupes or sedans.

What’s the point of living in California or even renting a car in Hawaii if you can’t have a drop top? To me, all signs are pointing to convertibles not disappearing but having to change with the times. If the crossover is the latest incarnation of the average vehicle, it seems inevitable that convertible SUVs are going to happen. We just have to avoid making them look like angry clothes irons.

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SaabaruDude
SaabaruDude
1 day ago

for this and also the chopped new Challenger/Charger… wouldn’t EVs make better platforms for removing the top? Unibody construction immediately made convertibles bigger compromises, and if you’re selling to someone with kids then perceived safety in borderline-imaginary edge crash cases matters a lot more than to someone picking up a 3rd owner Miata – and EV construction, with the big, armored battery in the floor, may make that an easier sell?

Hugh Crawford
Hugh Crawford
1 day ago

Weren’t all SUVs convertibles or at leasț removable hard tops? K5 Blazer, first Bronco, IH Scout, Land Rover, Porsche 597 Jagdwagen , I’m probably forgetting something, but weren’t SUVs by default open top?

Bjorn A. Payne Diaz
Bjorn A. Payne Diaz
1 day ago
Reply to  Hugh Crawford

Yeah, but that was when they were actually sporty and had utility. A CRV convertible sounds fucking god awful. What a sad state the automotive industry is in. We are in a new malaise era.

Mr E
Mr E
2 days ago

“They’d have no idea that you actually had two or three annoying liabilities of your own in back!”

I prefer to call them Temporary Tax Credits.

Mr E
Mr E
1 day ago
Reply to  The Bishop

True. I was trying to be more diplomatic. 🙂

Too bad college tuition isn’t fully tax deductible. Almost makes me long for the days of diapers and infant formula.

Ana Osato
Ana Osato
2 days ago

But… no!

Xt6wagon
Xt6wagon
2 days ago

Do the subaru convertible if you like lols

Col Lingus
Col Lingus
2 days ago

“And the #1 reason for convertible tops…”

“Easier to use finger to say hello to other drivers.”

Now let’s say hello to Paul Shaffer…

Thanks Dave. I miss Letterman.

Last edited 2 days ago by Col Lingus
BenCars
BenCars
2 days ago

God no, they all look horrible.

The best drop tops are the ones that have been designed as convertibles from the outset, not hastily converted from existing body styles.

StillNotATony
StillNotATony
2 days ago

Okay Bishop, I’ve got three and a half words for you: four door t-tops.

It’s genuis, right? RIGHT?!?

Ford_Timelord
Ford_Timelord
2 days ago
Reply to  StillNotATony

X-top if you have b pillars between the front and rear doors?

Lardo
Lardo
2 days ago

I like both the Nissan and LR. I would like to cut the roof off my 2017 Colorado, need to figure out the bracing. Crew cabs suck, hard to remove the roof. I want to do this. https://airbagit.com/collections/convertible-truck-kits

Urban Runabout
Urban Runabout
2 days ago

Yeah – I don’t think it’s the proportions that are the issue.

Look at a photo of a 1949 Ford Convertible.
Look at a 1955 Bel Air Convertible.

For decades, cars were far more upright and boxy than they are now. Hip points were higher, you sat upright like in a chair rather than down on the floor. Convertibles were a part of that overall architecture – and they were considered glamorous too.

Perhaps we don’t need a bunch of fixed roll bars or dumb tonneaus that cover the back seat?

Perhaps what we need to accept is that cars shaped like fish, rocketships, motorboats or F1 racers isn’t the way forward?

It might make more sense to adopt the upright architecture of SUVs and cars from the 40’s and 50s (before “Longer, Lower, Wider”) for future sedans, coupes and convertibles (we already have the wagons) instead.

Last edited 2 days ago by Urban Runabout
Amateur-Lapsed Member
Amateur-Lapsed Member
2 days ago

I’d like a reasonably priced four-seat convertible, and maybe somebody will convince Honda to make one out of the upcoming Prelude. But I’d at least be heartened to see an unaffordable but desirable big Sixties-style flagship of a Lincoln Navigator with suicide doors and a two-piece retractable hardtop with a basket handle and the ability to open up the front (for an old-school, expose-the-chauffeur look), the rear (for a classic landaulet) or both, with the tops stacking over the cargo bay.

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
2 days ago

“Nobody seems to laugh at what must easily be the best-selling off-road convertible there is now: the Jeep Wrangler! Somehow you just accept that it’s a functional machine, and the big roll cage up top (which they legally won’t call a “roll cage”) is just part of the whole package. The visual mass that it adds above the sort-of beltline visually works.”

You know what else nobody laughed at then or now? Convertible Blazers, Broncos and Scouts. Those had a profile much worse than any of these yet they sold just fine and nobody thought anything of it. They also did great off road.

Col Lingus
Col Lingus
2 days ago
Reply to  Cheap Bastard

Not to argue here, but disagree on the take re: old Broncos, Blazers etc. looking worse than this crap…
Happy New Year? lol

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
2 days ago
Reply to  Col Lingus

To each their own. I didn’t particularly see them as the bee’s knees nor did I find them hideous.

I wasn’t alone. There were a few in my HS parking lot and AFAIK nobody ripped on them. Convertible SUVs were perfectly acceptable. If anyone is going to be critical of vehicle styling it’s spoiled high school kids.

Vee
Vee
1 day ago
Reply to  Cheap Bastard

Technically those weren’t convertibles. They’re removable hardtops. Convertible implies the traditional carriage definition of converting from a phaeton to a brougham. As in, changing from roofless to canvas roofed. Use this knowledge to annoy your Mercedes-Benz friends when they talk about their SLK230 and call it a convertible.

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
22 hours ago
Reply to  Vee

They are indeed technically convertibles according to the ultimate authority on all the things; Wikipedia:

A convertible or cabriolet (/ˌkæbrioʊˈleɪ/) is a passenger car that can be driven with or without a roof in place. The methods of retracting and storing the roof vary across eras and manufacturers.

A convertible car’s design allows an open-air driving experience, with the ability to provide a roof when required. A potential drawback of convertibles is their reduced structural rigidity (requiring significant engineering and modification to counteract the side effects of almost completely removing a car’s roof).

The majority of convertible roofs are of a folding construction framework with the actual top made from cloth or other fabric. Other types of convertible roofs include retractable hardtops (often constructed from metal or plastic) and detachable hardtops (where a metal or plastic roof is manually removed and often stored in the trunk).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convertible

Or if you prefer Mirrram Webster:

convertible
1 : capable of being converted
2 : having a top that may be lowered or removed

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/convertible#h1

(hard or soft is not specified)

Last edited 22 hours ago by Cheap Bastard
1978fiatspyderfan
1978fiatspyderfan
2 days ago

If we could insert gifs or pictures the Isuzu Vehicross convertible in Mission to Mars is a great starting point.

Jack Trade
Jack Trade
2 days ago

Agreed. And given the time depicted in that film, we’re right on schedule I think.

10001010
10001010
2 days ago

We don’t know who The Bishop is but we know he has design and photoshop skills and some unorthodox ideas. Torch also has this skillset so one fan theory (it’s just me, really) is that The Bishop is an alter-ego that Jason knows nothing about. In this case The Bishop is The Narrator and Jason is Tyler Durden.
So, being that I come from this frame of mind seeing lines like, ‘Sadly, my “art director” here, Jason, said that he “still wanted to see a full convertible”, and that a “tonneau with little portholes where passengers could see out might be a good idea”. Oh, Lord. Actually, that sounds like a terrible idea, but I unwittingly signed up for this shit and have to embrace the challenges.’ makes my theory all the more awesome.
It’s like that scene when the Narrator realizes the cops he’s talking to are fellow fight-clubbers and that “Tyler” has already instructed them to disfigure him if he talks except it’s just car designs.
Go ahead, reread this article while playing Pixies Where is my Mind and tell me I’m crazy…I’ll wait.

1978fiatspyderfan
1978fiatspyderfan
2 days ago
Reply to  10001010

But we know He is not The Stig.

10001010
10001010
2 days ago

Is he terrified of ducks and is there an airport in Russia named after him?

10001010
10001010
2 days ago
Reply to  The Bishop

I KNEW IT!!!
O.O

Chronometric
Chronometric
2 days ago
Reply to  The Bishop

I occasionally share Jason’s articles with my wife. She often asks, “And you pay for this?” Yes, Autopian membership should be like being accepted into the Illuminati. Enjoy it smugly knowing that the great unwashed will never understand.

Hugh Crawford
Hugh Crawford
1 day ago
Reply to  The Bishop

I thought the first rule was not up talk about the writers’ hair.

RecoveringGTV6MaratonaOwner
RecoveringGTV6MaratonaOwner
2 days ago

Well, it’s the end of the year and I’m going to end with a good Comment ass whoopin’ for saying these two things but here we go:

A. The rollbar version gave me visions of an fully-kitted(lifted off-road suspension, flairs, big tires, etc) off-road version of the Murano- like Clarkson’s Bentley. I think it would be glorious! I have driven a family member’s Murano and that dog can hunt! That engine could definitely handle the extra kit.

B. I have ridden in what is considered by many to be a four wheeled manifestation of a chamber in Dante’s hell(the PT Cruiser Cabrio) and it was an enjoyable ride on a nice sunny day with the kids in the back. Obviously, I chose to focus on the sun, wind in my hair, and the smiles on my kids faces- rather than the dreadful power train. My point being that I love the idea of four-seater CUV and SUV convertibles. A big four seater may not be as cool as a sportscar but it can be awesome for us parents.

On a related note, why in the hell hasn’t a removable-top 4Rrunner returned yet?! Bishop, I would love to see your version, if you haven’t already done one that I missed.

Last edited 2 days ago by RecoveringGTV6MaratonaOwner
1978fiatspyderfan
1978fiatspyderfan
2 days ago

The only problem is they don’t include sun visors for the rear passengers in the Easter basket handle. That would instantly change crap handle to amazing useful feature

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
2 days ago
Reply to  The Bishop

Toyota TRD Surf concept works for me.

RecoveringGTV6MaratonaOwner
RecoveringGTV6MaratonaOwner
2 days ago
Reply to  Canopysaurus

This! That concept could actually be the new Pathfinder! If Jeep and Ford can figure out how to soft cover four door off-roaders, why can’t Toyota- especially since they didn’t make the new Land Cruiser top removable. They could even open up the front roof. I guess the meager relaunched Bronco sales figures aren’t compelling enough for Toyota. s/

Last edited 2 days ago by RecoveringGTV6MaratonaOwner
Lardo
Lardo
2 days ago

The only car you can rent on Orcas Island. I tried to put my key into another one, it was someone else’s rental. I love any convertible.

1978fiatspyderfan
1978fiatspyderfan
2 days ago

These all look like hot tubs on wheels. Safety rules have really handicapped design gurus like our friend The Bishop. I have no design ability but was thinking with Sedans being a thing of the past, maybe the reason convertible sales are slowing, how about a hard top sedan that the entire roof sans windows just slides back like a van door leaving the passengers exposed to the elements with the roof just covering the trunk giving it an SUV Like body shape. You still have a trunk. Your convertible is like the batmobile just have to get the aerodynamics right.

Slow Joe Crow
Slow Joe Crow
2 days ago

The Kidz Bunker amuses me because I described my children as putting the rumble in rumble seat. I also seriously considered a Subaru Brat or old Landrover with al fresco passenger seating.

RecoveringGTV6MaratonaOwner
RecoveringGTV6MaratonaOwner
2 days ago
Reply to  Slow Joe Crow

Love the Brat! I wish they had jumpseats in the Santa Cruz or Subie brought the Brat back.

Last edited 2 days ago by RecoveringGTV6MaratonaOwner
GreatFallsGreen
GreatFallsGreen
2 days ago

I wouldn’t worry about making the rear kid-friendly. The buyer for a >$50k+, 2-door, non-premium badge, convertible of any kind is limited enough, let alone a family. It seemed the main buyers of the Murano CrossCab were older DINKs/empty nesters, and it was timed decently well coming as the Solara convertible ended production.

This would actually be great for Infiniti for the QX50/55. Not only did Infiniti have the G/Q60 convertible, but could actually snag would-be Lexus IS convertible buyers. If Nissan made something like the CrossCab today they probably would have made it an Infiniti to begin with, but ~15 years ago the lines were largely separated.

Or – an Ariya convertible. Some here have mentioned how there’s no EV convertibles out there. Might get them some of those Florida retirees or snowbirds.

How about a pickup too – perhaps the Dodge Dakota convertible was ~35 years too early. They wouldn’t do it again on account of (1) no Dakota and (2) the Gladiator, but maybe Nissan could try a Frontier convertible.

Twobox Designgineer
Twobox Designgineer
2 days ago

Indeed, a thirty second Photoshop crop animation of the old Murano CrossCabriolet below shows that even crudely cropping down the sides results in a vehicle that looks far more “normal”.

That’s the case with essentially all convertible crossovers. 

There, IFIFY.

Jack Trade
Jack Trade
2 days ago

While I love convertibles and Bishop renderings in all forms, I think the answer isn’t that they’re not made out of today’s cars, but rather that nobody really wants them in the first place now.

Putting aside pure niche weekend toys, I don’t think most (not us!) people see cars and driving as fun things to be pursued anymore. For them, vehicles are appliances, valued for their utility. They’re seen much like how they see their phones.

While I hope the market pivots back and once again, GM will make drop tops out of economy cars just b/c (hello Cav-e-lier!), I don’t see it happening anytime soon sadly.

Kevin B Rhodes
Kevin B Rhodes
2 days ago
Reply to  Jack Trade

I think you are spot on. The only successful convertible SUVs are the Wrangler and Wrangler-like things like Defenders and Broncos for good reason. They manage to retain SUV utility top on or off. Because you have to take the top off, not fold it down. Making room to stow a folding roof universally removes a TON of utility.

I find it amusing that jacked-up 4×4 sedans from Subarus to Eagles have been universal flops, I expect for the same reason. Why bother with only HALF of the extra utility? Of course people have finally wised up to how useless sedans are in general.

Hugh Crawford
Hugh Crawford
1 day ago
Reply to  Kevin B Rhodes

“Of course people have finally wised up to how useless sedans are in general.” You would think there would be more wagons then.

Jack Trade
Jack Trade
2 days ago
Reply to  The Bishop

My only New Year’s wish is that you’ll continue the Bishop Timeline for Ford’s late 20th/early 21st century coupes!

Fuzzyweis
Fuzzyweis
2 days ago

Just reminiscing back to all the Isuzu Amigos and Geo Trackers and Suzuki Samurai and Daihatsu Rocky and Toyota Rav4…wait a minute, they still make that…but no they don’t.

Point being there used to be a bunch of crossover/suv convertibles, and there still is the Wrangler and Bronco, and for the non-poors your Hummer and Defender, think the key is the boxiness, and also not a crazy convertible contraption like the Murano one.

Also I want a Pontiac Stinger.

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
2 days ago
Reply to  Fuzzyweis

Agree that the boxier the better for convertible conversions. And since SUVs seem headed back to the “box” these days, that should mean more opportunities to please. Like to see a Maverick or Santa Cruz convertible, too. But what do I know, I like the Dakota drop top.

Fuzzyweis
Fuzzyweis
2 days ago
Reply to  Canopysaurus

I like the old Bronco/Blazer/Amigo style where behind the front seats was just open and you could put a hard top or soft top on.

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
2 days ago
Reply to  The Bishop

Woohoo! Can’t wait! Happy New Year!

Fuzzyweis
Fuzzyweis
2 days ago
Reply to  The Bishop

Yeah the stinger was 90s radical Baywatch beachness Viper tv show in a sleek package. Only thing they kept was the removable cooler in the Aztek.

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