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Did I Overpay For My Completely Rust-Free Jeep Wrangler YJ?

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I relapsed. After selling much of my Jeep collection and buying a sensible BMW i3 electric car, I was unable to keep my eyes off Craigslist, and when I saw a 1991 Jeep Wrangler YJ, there was nothing on this green and blue earth that was going to stop me. This was the ultimate Jeep Wrangler in my eyes — the best model year, the right engine, the right transmission — and because it was in the desert in California, I had a feeling it was completely rust free. Let’s take a look at this incredible machine, which I may or may not have overpaid for — you decide.

Why I Bought A Jeep Wrangler YJ

Seven years ago, 24 year-old me made a foolish mistake. I had in front of me the last model-year Jeep Wrangler — a 1995 — with the unkillable 4.0-liter inline-six mated to a manual transmission with the much-preferred external secondary cylinder, and it was the best color: green. The seller wanted $4,500, and I, too young and naive to realize the opportunity that lay before me, turned the machine down:

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The YJ has always been my favorite Jeep Wrangler. In many ways, it’s the underdog – the disposable, cheap Wrangler that came out of the gate in 1987 to jeers from the Jeep faithful who believe all real Jeeps have round headlines. But I’ve always admired it; even though many call it the Yuppy Jeep, with its plastic dashboard and cushy amenities like available cruise control, the reality is that the YJ remained an extremely basic machine that still felt like an old CJ. It’s got four leaf springs, rear drum brakes, two solid axles, a frame, steel bumpers, a stick shift, and really not a whole lot going on inside aside from its hilariously long string of gauges (I’ll show those in a second).

The successor, the TJ Wrangler, was so much better, with its, five-link coil spring suspension design taken from the Jeep Grand Cherokee ZJ (whose suspension was inspired by the XJ Cherokee’s front suspension), available locking diffs, available rear discs on some models, improved transmission options, cushier interior, and on and on. In many ways, the YJ Wrangler is to the TJ what the last-generation JK Wrangler is to modern JL — it’s not bad, but it’s been eclipsed in almost every way. This is why the YJ is still the cheapest Wrangler money can buy, but also why I think the JK will soon take over that post.

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But despite having been thoroughly improved, how can anyone look at this Jurassic Park clip and not fall in love?

And if that doesn’t do it for you, surely Jeremy Clarkson doing the Rubicon Trail in a pretty-much-bone-stock YJ will win you over, right?:

And I guess it’d only be fair to include this, since I suppose this kind of thing could do it for some of y’all:

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Anyway, as many of you probably know, for years I’ve been debating whether or not I should buy a new Jeep Wrangler JL — a vehicle on whose engineering team I was from 2013 to 2015. I decided against buying a JL primarily because I’m a cheap bastard, and dropping $33,000 on a vehicle that scores 15 MPG when I have to pay $5 a gallon for gas just doesn’t make sense to me.

What I wanted was something that was new and safe, something convertible, something efficient, and something that I could take off-road. And though the JL hits most of those requirements, it fails hard when it comes to efficiency. So I decided to buy two cars for much less than the price of a JL.

First, I snagged the cheapest BMW i3 in America, a vehicle that I think is the ultimate city-machine, and that has served me well so far now that it’s got a fresh new battery. I pay very little to charge it, I can park it easily, it makes me feel safe and comfortable on LA’s busy highways, and I remain fascinated by its engineering. The i3 was a great purchase.

But the i3 can’t off-road, and it doesn’t have a convertible top. And though I won’t pretend that anyone needs a convertible top, part of me realizes that, if I’m ever going to own a Jeep Wrangler, now’s the time. I’m sorta-young [Ed note: you are young, dummy – MH] , I live in sunny California, and there aren’t any gasoline-car-bans in place yet (that’s sort of a joke, but sort of not). So I sought out my favorite Jeep Wrangler: a YJ. And not just any YJ: The Holy Grail of YJs.

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Why I Wanted A 1991 Model

1991 is not just my birth year, it’s also the best model-year for the Jeep Wrangler YJ in my eyes.

The Jeep Wrangler YJ debuted for the 1987 model year with two engine options: A 2.5-liter AMC inline-four and a 4.2-liter AMC inline-six. They were both decent motors, but the six was only adequately powerful and the four was downright sluggish. Both of them were carbureted nightmares with vacuum hoses and all sorts of annoying emissions stuff clogging up the engine bay and making getting through California emissions in 2023 a chore.

The only smart YJ to buy is one with a 4.0-liter fuel-injected inline-six, a 190 horsepower, 225 lb-ft brute whose only achilles heel is heat. Keep that motor cool and it will drive 350,000 miles without trouble. That engine was only available in YJs starting in 1991, and luckily by then the junky Peugeot BA-10 five-speed found bolted to the 4.0 in the Jeep Cherokee XJ had already been booted from Jeep’s lineup, leaving just the stout AX-15 five-speed as the sole manual behind the 4.0.

The 4.0 and AX-15 were available from 1991 all the way to the YJ’s demise in 1995, and though the later models got plenty of improvements — like rear shoulder belts, available ABS, stronger front axle universal joints, a center high-mounted stop lamp, an external secondary clutch hydraulic cylinder (meaning to replace it you don’t have to drop the transmission), and allegedly galvanized body parts — the 1991 was special. That’s because, starting in 1991 for the 1992 model year, Jeep changed the roll cage from the slick, slanted one here:

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…to the “family style” roll cage here:

1995 Jeep YJ Sales Brochure and Datasheet

The family-style roll cage came about due to federal requirements for rear shoulder belts. Not to get too far into the weeds, but “national, non-profit organization dedicated solely to child passenger safety” SeatBeltSafe U.S.A. writes a bit about this requirement in a document about rear shoulder-belt retrofits, saying:

Until the 1990 model year, most cars had only lap belts in the back seat. Shoulder belts have been required in the outboard (side) positions in the back seats of new sedans, station wagons, and hatchbacks made starting in December 1989. The same requirement applies to vans, SUVs, and pickup trucks starting with 1992 models.

Anyway, I like the older slanted roll bar significantly more than the family-style post-1991 roll cage (I realize I could have swapped an older style cage onto a newer YJ, but I like to keep my vehicles factory-correct), and given that I want that powerful and reliable fuel-injected 4.0-liter engine, that left me with just one model-year: 1991.

Finding The Ultimate YJ On Craigslist

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The photos you see directly above and below are what I saw on Craigslist. The seller, located in a place called Littlerock, California about 50 miles north of me, was asking $9500, which wasn’t cheap. Luckily the listing included three magical letters: OBO — or best offer.

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So I figured I’d hop in my i3 and test its range on the freeway (it made it 80 miles on EV only, and 20 miles using the gas range extender, for those of you curious). It won’t hurt to just look at this YJ, right?

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I ended up in a tiny town in the desert, in front of a house on a dirt road. A Barbie Jeep sat on its front porch, and a gorgeous black Chevy K10 blazer was out back not far from an equally gorgeous VW Super Beetle. An energetic Lebanese man named Jack and his friendly son Jacob walked out of the house to greet me. Jack used to work in a body shop, and still does body work — hence the minty K10 Blazer and Beetle. “Hey, [I’ll] show you the Jeep now,” Jack told me, opening his garage door.

The thing looked clean. Like, real clean. “I painted the hood and side,” Jack told me. His son showed me a photo of the Jeep prior to Jack’s work, and my lord had the sun done some work on that hood:

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Jack told me he’d bought the Jeep from his neighbor for just over five grand. He’d installed a tan soft top and full-doors, which he’d painted and installed new inner panels on. The Jeep had some tow points on the bumper, and came with a y-shaped tow bar; apparently the neighbor had yanked the vehicle around with his Motorhome, though it’s unclear how many of the 188,000 miles on the odometer came from all that unpowered highway travel.

There was some janky stuff happening in the engine bay — the heater core had been bypassed with a hose that ran directly from the thermostat housing into the water pump. The AC wasn’t turning on for whatever reason, the driver’s seat was torn, and there was no rear bench to be seen. I told Jack and Jacob that, right now, $7,000 was what I wanted to pay. Jack wanted $8,000, so we agreed we were too far apart and that if one of us changed their mind, we had the other’s number. I drove back home.

The next day, I called Jack back, offered $7,700, he negotiated up to $7,800, and thus, I’d agreed to purchase the ultimate Jeep Wrangler YJ.

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The following day, I stopped by the bank to grab $7,800 in cash, and then dropped $65+tip on a 50-mile Uber to that small town of Littlerock, which — as shown above – is in the middle of nowhere.

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Did I Overpay For My New Jeep?

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I showed up to Jack’s driveway and took these pictures of the YJ as I prepared to take my first drive in it. I probably should have test-driven it before showing up with all that cash, but I’m a seasoned mechanic, and I wasn’t worried about a 4.0-liter or an AX-15. I have a spare engine, and I can rebuild a manual transmission in my sleep (though I’d rather not have to, admittedly):

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The Jeep drove well, so I forked the cash over in exchange for keys and a title, and went on my way. But not before loading up the half-doors and soft-top hardware that you may have noticed in that pre-painted-hood photo above. I’m a Jeep diehard, and I’m buying this machine largely because it’s convertible (not just because it’s good off-road; I already have a ZJ that can off-road), so I plan to ditch that hardtop and those full-doors in favor of a soft top and half-doors.

 

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The hardtop should sell for $1,200, and the doors probably around $1,000. So if you take those off the purchase price, I’m at $5,600. Add a new soft top and soft top hardware, a bench, a new driver’s seat, and smaller tires that don’t rub when I turn, and we’re probably talking about $6,500 for a rust-free YJ set up just like I want it.

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Is that a decent deal? I don’t know. That 1995 model I looked at seven years ago cost $4,500 at the time. That’s $5,757.36 in today’s money, so it’s definitely cheaper, and it had a rear bench and decent seats, though it lacked carpeting and it also had a little bit of rust. Then there’s this YJ that sold on Cars & Bids for $6,400. It looks really nice inside and out, with a nice soft top and decent tires, but it has a little bit of rust, and also I’d have had to have paid to get it here from New Jersey.

Then there’s this Ohio one that sold for $7,200. It’s got half as many miles on the odometer, beautiful tires, and a nicer interior, and it also has a hard top and half doors (but even comes with a soft top), though there is a bit of rust:

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Anyway, before you answer whether or not I overpaid, let’s take a peek at my new YJ.

A Close Look At My 1991 Jeep Wrangler YJ

Let’s have a look at my Jeep, starting with the exterior, which those of you who are Autopian members have already seen:

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Not bad, right? Jack did a great job painting that hood and those full doors. He even offered to repaint the half doors, which had some scratches on them from sitting in his yard and a big burn mark from where he tried removing a bolt. I’m excited to get those half doors on there, along with a soft top, though I have quite a bit of work ahead of me. I don’t have the hardware (aside from the two bows) to mount the soft top, so I have to buy all of that. Then I need to buy a soft top, but luckily that should just cost me about $300 (I plan to go with a tan top).

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Here are a few close-up shots. Sadly, the grille has small holes drilled into it:

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The footman loops on the hood are missing for some reason:

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As for the interior, it’s not great. As I mentioned before, my driver’s seat is messed up:

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Someone mounted an aftermarket cruise control switch onto the dash (under the temperature gauge), the Jeep emblem at the center of the steering wheel is missing, and I loath the cue-ball shifters:

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The center console lid has small holes in it:

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And there’s no rear bench:

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Luckily, there is a carpet in there (this is often yanked out of YJs), and I found out that the AC does work, though the blower is weak, and also the radio is shot.

Under the hood, there’s that weird heater core bypass, with a hose going from the thermostat outlet straight to the water pump inlet. Presumably, the heater core leaks:

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Someone put a bolt into the air box lid for some reason:

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But let’s get to the underbody. Because of all Jeeps on earth, it is the YJ that’s perhaps best known for rust. Jeep sold almost three quarters of a million of these Jeeps, and they were beaten on hard, and put away wet — anywhere in the rust belt, you’re likely to find YJs in shockingly horrible shape. Our weekend writer, Rob Spiteri, is actually on the hunt right now for a YJ; look at what he’s found:

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Now let’s look under mine:

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Absolutely incredible.

Expect more YJ content soon. My plan is to keep it bone stock, and maybe — maybe — try to traverse the Rubicon trail. I need to do a bit more research on whether that’s even possible with a stock YJ (I’d throw some era-appropriate guards on the rocker panels) without totally destroying it.

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Jeff Jordan
Jeff Jordan
1 year ago

I’m sure there will be enough challenges to keep us all entertained, even if the challenges do not involve rust

MtnCamantalope
MtnCamantalope
1 year ago

Fred and Dave did the rubicon trail in a mostly stock Jeep and Chevy truck on Dirt Everyday. Kind of a this is how they did it back in the day episode. Definitely doable, though you’ll surely need a winch.

Cast
Cast
1 year ago

How does DT use this description:
“the ultimate Jeep Wrangler in my eyes — the best model year, the right engine, the right transmission”
and manage to not call it a Grail?

Danger Ranger
Danger Ranger
1 year ago

Darn you David! I’ve been toying around with the idea of selling my 77 Cutlass and getting another Jeep! I miss my TJ, but I think a white YJ will look good next to my white 5.9 ZJ! (and the grey Mazda B-4rd ranger)

Abe Froman
Abe Froman
1 year ago

I bought a rusty YJ back in March 2020. I spent an entire year disassembling and reassembling it, mitigating rust and welding in new panels where needed. Great project, loved it, but it is time for a new adventure and I sold it last weekend for $5700. I had around 7K into it doing all the work but the welding myself.

You got a great deal.

H4llelujah
H4llelujah
1 year ago

Maybe in California with a little luck and a little patience, you could have found one in that shape for less.

But would it be MUCH less? Doubtful.

The most expensive thing in the world is time, and if I lived in California with all that sunshine, beaches, and off roading, I would be willing to spend ZERO time without a wrangler.

I’m from Ohio, so I can probably count on one hand how many YJ’s are in my county in better shape than this white one, and I’d have no problem handing over 7 large for one. YJ’s (at stock height) have a very raw, nimble, cheerful feel to them. The overboosted steering, barely-assisted brakes, the just-right clutch feel. The sound of that happy little straight six and it’s low baritone buzz. The SMELL. That 1980’s AMC product smell that just doesnt exist in any wrangler that came after it.

A YJ plays with all the senses and all the emotions, even though there’s nothing really notable about it, 30 years later, they’re just so special.

PaysOutAllNight
PaysOutAllNight
1 year ago

I know you need a clickbait headline, but you and I both know you got a really good deal on the Jeep.

Uninformed Fucknugget
Uninformed Fucknugget
1 year ago

…and anyone that disagrees has not shopped for a used Jeep within the last 5 years.

Mr Sarcastic
Mr Sarcastic
1 year ago

Last 50 years. They must have the best value maintained record of all time.

Barry Allen
Barry Allen
1 year ago

I’ve got a 95 YJ, 2.5L manual. It’s slow as a dog after eating the Thanksgiving turkey, but it’s just as lovable too.

Gee See
Gee See
1 year ago

One thing about having an EV I found is you have a relatively reliable transport. Now assuming the autopian hq parking lot is relatively secure, I would say, let the rust free hoarding begin! (though, try not to lock cats into cars).

Pat Douglas Barron
Pat Douglas Barron
1 year ago

If you did not lose any sleep over it then you absolutely did not overpay. That Jeep is worth every penny of what you paid for it, my friend. You’re going to get a LOT more out of it than you will ever put into it! Enjoy every moment; I’m sure you will!

Reauxtide
Reauxtide
1 year ago

I honestly had no idea the ‘91 had the 4.0 and the CJ style roll bar. In my head everything with that bar was carbureted. This goes back to the the time I lived and died CJ’s, YJ’s, and TJ’s. Makes me a little sad I believed a lie I told myself for almost 30 years.

Great Jeep David! You absolutely did not overpay

Crank Shaft
Crank Shaft
1 year ago

You absolutely did not overpay. In fact, you have almost certainly gotten a bit of a deal. The lack of rust cannot be underestimated from a financial perspective. Let’s say each square inch of chassis rust is worth one dollar and body rust five (rough numbers I think are nonetheless reasonable) in value or repair cost. If you were to add up the inches of rust on those others YJs you comped, it becomes quickly obvious you made an excellent choice.

You’ve gone fully Cali. First a Yuppie car and now a rust free one. I could not be prouder.

Kevin B
Kevin B
1 year ago

Are they “roll bars” or “sport bars” they had to call them back in the day because they were only cosmetic and offered no protection whatsoever? Also, headlights that aren’t round is like someone buying a Harley Davidson from the AMF days.

Gubbin
Gubbin
1 year ago

Did I Overpay For My Completely Rust-Free Jeep Wrangler YJ?

Betteridge’s Law of Headlines says “No.”
There, settled through the power of Science! Enjoy that Jeep!

Cayde-6
Cayde-6
1 year ago
Reply to  Gubbin

This might be the best usage of Betteridge’s Law of Headlines I’ve ever seen

Inthemikelane
Inthemikelane
1 year ago
Reply to  Gubbin

You know, I read a word or phrase almost every day on this site that I’m unfamiliar with, so I look it up and learn. Thanks!

Paul Brogger
Paul Brogger
1 year ago

Only DT can determine whether he “overpaid”. Meanwhile, the recent rust-belt transplant is acting like a kid in a candy store!

Ike
Ike
1 year ago

I think selling all the super rusty heeps and buying one, prefect spec, no rust cali jeep was the right move.

George Millwood
George Millwood
1 year ago

You got so excited you allowed typos to creep in. You can only buy what is on the market now, you got the holy grail, in time the price will be nothing.

chad Face
chad Face
1 year ago

Seeing DT so excited about a rust free underbody reinforces how fortunate I am to have lived in CA my whole life. I am shocked how much cars deteriorate in other states

C.A.R. Doctor PhD
C.A.R. Doctor PhD
1 year ago

“Overpaid” depends a lot on how you value your time. Could you find another rust-free one for less money? Maybe. But you have a website to run, a ZJ to build, and plenty of other things you need to wrench on. Paying more to get a good one and save the time is probably worth it.

Of course, I am sure I am going to overpay for a YJ at some point. One of the few automotive goals I haven’t completed or grown out of (and never will) is building a Jurassic Park liveried YJ. And now that you posted a clip to remind me of that, I will probably be spending the rest of the evening looking for one. I feel like I’m a bit in the same boat; I just want a rust-free one. I plan to make the 4.0 my first engine rebuild one way or another (I may just buy a separate one to rebuild and swap, just to do it myself), and I feel pretty comfortable with almost anything else, except I have zero ability to do rust repair. So I’ll probably end up overpaying for a rust-free one out in the desert somewhere.

Tommy Helios
Tommy Helios
1 year ago

I feel like we should get DT to wrap this one in the livery. Would protect the paint from further wear and make you quite popular. But if you do that we need to source a set of the international tails as well.

Framed
Framed
1 year ago

Is it just me, or does the photo of the red and gray jeeps with slanted roll cage braces look like some 1/25 scale Revell kits placed in David’s some kids sandbox?

Jeeptopian
Jeeptopian
1 year ago

Lets see you got the best engine/ trans combo plus a/c and full doors and hard top to sell, you got a good deal. Half doors and soft top are the best look for any Wrangler for sure. Enjoy the square headlights, they get alot of hate for no reason. I’ll give you a jeep wave if I see you around.

FUCK YOU
FUCK YOU
1 year ago

Seems like it’s got good bones, even though it could use some TLC. Nothing you can’t handle, and it already drives just fine. In this day and age, I’d say you did alright.

Bob
Bob
1 year ago

“The YJ Wrangler is to the TJ what the last-generation JK Wrangler is to modern JL.”

And I’m out.

One More Last Chance
One More Last Chance
1 year ago

You paid the exact right amount getting the Jeep you wanted. My buddy has one and we’ve driven it all over Colorado having a blast.
The Califonia sun must be getting to you. Making such a logical chose to have a good car to commute in and an awesome (rust free) weekend project. I had a Jeep as my daily driver and the cool factor wears off quick. You do have to drive it work on Fridays because it makes pople wonder what kind of cool shit are you up to this weekend.
I’m leaning toward a black top. I like the Storm Trooper vib. But, you do you.

Fourmotioneer
Fourmotioneer
1 year ago

That smog is doing good things to DT’s brain. This was neither a steal nor overpriced. Just a fair buy for a nice Jeep

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