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Driving Your EV Like A Lunatic Might Help Its Batteries Last Longer: Stanford Study

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One of the big fears of buying an electric car to keep for the long-haul is battery degradation. After a slight initial drop in performance, battery condition should level off for years, but when will performance decline again? As it turns out, it might take longer than previously thought. Researchers at the SLAC-Stanford Battery Center have spent two years trying different charging and discharging profiles on lithium-ion battery packs and have found that realistic charging/discharging cycles — including quick bursts of acceleration — may result in way slower battery degradation than expected.

As Automotive News reports:

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The researchers found, according to their paper published Dec. 9 in the Nature Energy scientific journal, that the batteries subjected to more dynamic charging and discharging cycles scored better on battery health metrics such as the amount of lithium or the degradation of electrodes.

From the Stanford Report:

Simona Onori, senior author and an associate professor of energy science and engineering in the Stanford Doerr School of Sustainability […said:]“To our surprise, real driving with frequent acceleration, braking that charges the batteries a bit, stopping to pop into a store, and letting the batteries rest for hours at a time, helps batteries last longer than we had thought based on industry standard lab tests.”

Alright, so what does this mean? Well, most batteries are lab-tested for degradation by constantly pumping energy in and out of them. It’s a way to accelerate testing so that thousands of charging cycles don’t take years to happen, but it’s not how privately owned electric cars are used. Instead, actual electric cars see dynamic charging/discharging, periods of rest between drives, and those charged at home often also see periods of rest between reaching a full charge overnight and setting off in the morning.

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The scientists at SLAC-Stanford Battery Center call this dynamic cycling, and it turns out that real-world usage may result in much longer battery lifespans than people previously thought. As the study reports, it can result in as much as a 38 percent longer battery lifespan than seen under constant current testing. This is particularly interesting because all this real-world cycling was previously thought to be more harmful to batteries than constant current lab testing. As per Stanford:

The research team tested 92 commercial lithium-ion batteries for more than two years across the discharge profiles. In the end, the more realistically the profiles reflected actual driving behavior, the higher EV life expectancy climbed.

In fact, that’s where the findings only start to get interesting. Are you addicted to the thrill of jackrabbit EV acceleration? Believe it or not, those rapid discharge events might actually be good for your battery. As Stanford reports:

For example, the study showed a correlation between sharp, short EV accelerations and slower degradation. This was contrary to long-held assumptions of battery researchers, including this study’s team, that acceleration peaks are bad for EV batteries. Pressing the pedal with your foot hard does not speed up aging. If anything, it slows it down, explained Alexis Geslin, one of three lead authors of the study and a PhD student in materials science and engineering and in computer science in Stanford’s School of Engineering.

As you can imagine, this revelation — which, it’s worth noting, comes from just this one Stanford study — has caused an exciting stir on some EV forums.

It’s worth noting that there may be limits to this. Batteries generally don’t like heat, and repeated hard acceleration can put serious thermal stress on an EV’s battery pack. Quick bursts of acceleration in between sustained cruising might be helpful, but repeated quarter-mile drag strip runs might not carry the same supposedly helpful properties.

If you’re wondering exactly how much longer battery packs last in the real world than we expected in testing, the truth is that we don’t actually know with precision. On the one hand, some actively-cooled battery packs in early modern EVs have fallen below a degradation threshold that necessitates replacement. Our own David Tracy experienced this with his first i3. On the other hand, there are still a bunch of early Tesla Model S sedans roving around on their original battery packs, and those are knocking on the door of 13 years old. Battery chemistry, management, and thermal conditioning has only improved since then, so it’s looking more plausible than not that today’s crop of EVs will make fine beaters in 20 years.

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[Ed Note: While my first model-year i3 (60Ah model) did suffer from battery degradation over 135,000 miles, it has a small battery hooked to a range extender, so it saw lots of charge/discharge cycles (in a hot climate, too) and the battery was often at low states-of-charge as the range extender often struggled to keep it from dipping below 6.5 percent. My newer BMW i3, the 120 Ah model, should last much longer, as some testing by others has shown negligible degradation after five years and almost 100,000 miles. That’s impressive! -DT].

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So does this mean that you should be able to buy an EV and keep it basically forever with maybe one battery pack replacement once it hits 30? Well, not quite.

Although the battery packs may see less degradation than expected, a bad battery pack isn’t the only thing that can send a car to the scrapheap. Twenty years down the line, it’s possible that replacing something expensive like a panoramic sunroof or expensive air suspension components could render an electric vehicle mechanically totalled, just like it might a combustion-powered car. In addition, parts support tends to dwindle as cars age, so it’s possible that the critical part you need in 20 years, like an encrypted module programmed by the manufacturer, might simply no longer be available. Lastly, in the rust belt, rust will still be a factor for how long a vehicle’s kept on the road. If your electric vehicle’s made out of steel and you drive on salt-brined roads, it might rot out before anything propulsion-related goes really wrong. You know, like a late-’90s Honda.

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Anyway, it’s kind of neat to know that — in the real world, and with quick accelerations/battery discharges every now and again — EVs might last longer than previously expected based on testing. Will old ones be janky in the future? Sure, but the majority of them probably won’t be paperweights like David’s old Nissan Leaf with its highly questionable air-cooled battery pack.

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Robert Swartz
Robert Swartz
1 hour ago

This made me think of a related bit of personal history. My Mom’s family’s business was a public golf course which my cousins still own. When they switched for gas-powered Harleys to electric Yahamas in the early 80s, I remember my Uncle saying how they had to train golfers to go full speed as much as possible, because the speed control was a rheostat that just burned off the difference at anything less than full power. I suspect they work better today.

Fun Harley golf cart fact – those carts had a governor to keep the speed down. But our Ranger’s cart, for the guy who travelled the 27 holes checking that golfers had paid had a Harley with the governor removed. That baby could haul.

WaCkO
WaCkO
1 day ago

So Italian tuneups also work for EVs

PajeroPilot
PajeroPilot
1 day ago

“Driving Your EV Like A Lunatic Might Help Its Batteries Last Longer”

– This EV owner is happy to oblige!

“Ed Note: While my first model-year i3 (60Ah model)…”

– My lawn mower (a push mower, not a ride on) has 10Ah worth of batteries and gives me 20-30 minutes of run time. I know the i3 has a range extender but the fact it can have useful city range with 6x a mower’s worth of capacity is impressive indeed!

Beatle
Beatle
1 day ago
Reply to  PajeroPilot

Well, except the i3 has a nominal voltage of 353v and your mower is probably more like 56v.

Measuring batteries only in Ah is kind of dumb even though that’s what tool manufacturers do (and BMW for some reason). Much easier to standardize on kwh.

It’d really be more like 21kwh vs.0.5kwh, or 42x the capacity of your mower.

WaitWaitOkNow
WaitWaitOkNow
22 hours ago
Reply to  Beatle

TIL

PajeroPilot
PajeroPilot
18 hours ago
Reply to  Beatle

Excellent point, I didn’t even consider the voltage of the battery packs, basic electrical theory and all that. I blame commenting before I’ve had my morning coffee. The mower voltage is actually even lower – 36 volts so like a tenth of an i3 pack.

Why do BMW insist on measuring their battery packs in Ah when everyone else uses kWh? We could make jokes about power tools using that measurement and BMW owners being tools but that would be a bit childish…

Last edited 18 hours ago by PajeroPilot
Harvey Park Bench
Harvey Park Bench
18 hours ago
Reply to  PajeroPilot

30 min is as much runtime as I would want from a lawnmower.

PajeroPilot
PajeroPilot
18 hours ago

Depends on the size of your lawn I guess. 30 minutes is juuuust enough time for me to get the front and back lawns done, depending how long I’ve let it get!

Harvey Park Bench
Harvey Park Bench
17 hours ago
Reply to  PajeroPilot

What I meant is I never want to now the lawn for more than 30 minutes 🙂

PajeroPilot
PajeroPilot
17 hours ago

Oh, I hear ya!

Harmanx
Harmanx
1 day ago

Hard acceleration doesn’t do wonders for the drive tires, though.

Beatle
Beatle
1 day ago
Reply to  Harmanx

Or the half shafts.

i3 Driving Indicator Fetishist
i3 Driving Indicator Fetishist
1 day ago
Reply to  Beatle

Or i3 motor mounts

Ryan
Ryan
11 hours ago

Or the reduction gear.

Parsko
Parsko
11 hours ago
Reply to  Ryan

meh

Parsko
Parsko
11 hours ago

meh

Parsko
Parsko
11 hours ago
Reply to  Beatle

meh

E Petry
E Petry
1 day ago

Every Model Y owner in NorthTexas mustve figured this out years ago.

Drive By Commenter
Drive By Commenter
1 day ago

In other words: drive like normal and don’t worry. Also, don’t forget your towel.

Austin Vail
Austin Vail
3 hours ago

And friggin’ send it on the on-ramp!

Drive By Commenter
Drive By Commenter
3 hours ago
Reply to  Austin Vail

So true. Enjoy the ride to 60. It can go by quickly.

Will Leavitt
Will Leavitt
1 day ago

The rust belt proviso hits home. My 2005 Prius lasted 295K miles and 13 years in Massachusetts; the NiMH battery was fine but the rocker panels and rear suspension rusted away. Oh, and it burned oil for the last 70K miles. I’m betting rust will kill my Tesla.

Last edited 1 day ago by Will Leavitt
Shooting Brake
Shooting Brake
1 day ago
Reply to  Will Leavitt

Are Teslas aluminum or steel? I just assumed they used aluminum bodies but I actually have no idea. I’m right with ya on the rust belt frustrations.

Manwich Sandwich
Manwich Sandwich
1 day ago
Reply to  Shooting Brake

The Model S and X are mostly aluminum. The Model 3 and Y are mostly steel.

Shooting Brake
Shooting Brake
1 day ago

Ah that makes sense

Give Me Tacos or Give Me Death
Give Me Tacos or Give Me Death
1 day ago

So you’re telling me that using Launch Control is good for the car?

This changes everything!

Lotsofchops
Lotsofchops
1 day ago

Good excuse for the spouse/cops, I’m tellin’ ya.

Last edited 1 day ago by Lotsofchops
It'll buff out
It'll buff out
20 hours ago
Reply to  Lotsofchops

But, officer. I was just conditioning my battery, and doing my part to save the spotted owls……

Mike Harrell
Mike Harrell
1 day ago

Does this type of behavior also extend the life of the battery in a gasoline-powered vehicle? If so I’m prepared to consider it.

AssMatt
AssMatt
1 day ago
Reply to  Mike Harrell

I don’t know, Mike, how many of your vehicles are capable of “quick bursts of acceleration?”
[wink]

Last edited 1 day ago by AssMatt
Mike Harrell
Mike Harrell
1 day ago
Reply to  AssMatt

Well, when compared to each other there’s…

No, wait, not even then. My batteries are doomed.

Manwich Sandwich
Manwich Sandwich
1 day ago
Reply to  Mike Harrell

In at least some cases, the answer is yes.

In the case of a Mazda Rotary engine, the saying is “a Redline per day keeps the carbon buildup away”

Running an RX8 to the redline at least once per drive will prevent carbon buildup and actually help keep the Apex Seals healthy.

And apparently for the Cadillac Northstar engine, running it hard would help prevent carbon buildup on the piston rings which would in turn avoids a future oil consumption issue

Last edited 1 day ago by Manwich Sandwich
Kurt B
Kurt B
1 day ago

I love that David has supplied not one, but two data points about old EV/hybrid beaters

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
1 day ago

It’s long been known that repeated pedal to the metal dashes extend adolescence in humans, so why not batteries?

Beasy Mist
Beasy Mist
1 day ago

I assume something dumb is going to total my Bolt well before the battery does, like GM not supplying a necessary replacement part and doing their signature shrug. Until then I charge it to about 80-85% unless I’m about to leave on a longer drive.

Parsko
Parsko
11 hours ago
Reply to  Beasy Mist

ditto

Then, I drive like I always have. But, now I’m just faster.

Mrbrown89
Mrbrown89
1 day ago

You also need to be aware that EV batteries don’t like to stand for long period of time on high % of charge or very low %. The best thing I have done to get a good efficiency and keep the battery happy, make sure you charge your vehicle to X percentage very close to the time you are leaving, so the battery is at the optimal temperature and you get a better mileage.

I set my car to be done charging by 7am, sometimes I leave before that or after but the car battery was active and ready to go by the time I am actually leaving. If I leave my car sitting outside unplugged and not charging, the car regen is limited and sometimes the output too.

Harvey Park Bench
Harvey Park Bench
18 hours ago
Reply to  Mrbrown89

Man, that’s a lot of work. We have AI software that can generate realistic videos of Will Smith eating spaghetti, but we have to babysit the time and % charge on our cars and preplan when we’re driving? Eff that.

PajeroPilot
PajeroPilot
18 hours ago

It’s dead easy actually. You plug it in when you get home from work – kind of like your phone. You set the schedule when you first get the car and probably never think about it again. You usually have a limit of 80% charge in place for normal driving, but if you know you’re doing a road trip the next day, you take that limit off. I own (and love) multiple ICE vehicles too – they often require me to take time out of my day on the way home to refuel. It’s a different kind of planning.

Parsko
Parsko
11 hours ago

YES, this is still one of the hurdles of the EV transition. With that said, you are already doing this, daily, and fully accustomed to doing it with your ICE. You just don’t realize it. It took me about 3 months to rewire to EV usage.

But, there is still a lot of room to grow to reduce or eliminate this extra work we need to do to keep our vehicles on the road every day, both ICE and EV. It’s just this EV stuff is new, so it stands out as more of a hassle, when it’s really not.

The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
1 day ago

My Tesla used to be a rental car, so I hope this is true.

Theft recovery EVs might be an even better deal.

DaChicken
DaChicken
1 day ago

“No, Officer, I was just keeping my battery from degrading.”

Angel "the Cobra" Martin
Angel "the Cobra" Martin
1 day ago

Italian tune up translates to the EV world. Excellent.

Jdoubledub
Jdoubledub
1 day ago

Silicon tune up?

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch
Carbon Fiber Sasquatch
1 day ago
Reply to  Jdoubledub

Lithium tune up! *cues Nirvana blasting*

Ash78
Ash78
1 day ago

“Light my tires in a haze, cuz I found Plaid!”

Jack Trade
Jack Trade
1 day ago
Reply to  Ash78

With the (dash) lights out, it’s less dangerous

PajeroPilot
PajeroPilot
1 day ago

Chinese tune up in the case of my MG4!

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