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E Is For: 1976 Excalibur Series III Phaeton vs 1990 Eagle Talon TSi

Sbsd 3 21 2025
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Happy Friday! We’re at the end of the first week of our tour of the alphabet, and we’re celebrating the letter E with two cars with seriously mixed-up lineages. The prices are way different, I realize, but that’s okay, because I say it is.

For yesterday’s matchup, I almost had to give up and find another D car in place of a Daewoo. They are not easy cars to find for sale these days. The only other Daewoo I found was a red Lanos hatchback that was up to its axles in a blackberry bramble, and probably had been for at least a decade. I almost went with that one, but this Leganza had better photos. In either case, I didn’t expect it to win, and I was right.

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That cute little Daihatsu Mira hatchback is the kind of car I love: small, lightweight, simple, and with roughly the same energy as a pug attacking an ice cream cone. It’s probably not a “keeper,” but as something to fix up, enjoy for a year or so, and then sell for what you’ve got into it, it could be a whole lot of fun in a small package.

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When you start digging into the history of the auto industry, it’s pretty amazing how much cross-pollination there is between companies. Smaller makers buy components from larger ones, joint ventures produce weird cross-breeds, and auto execs jump from company to company and often take their preferences and ethos with them. Almost no cars are the pure vision of just one person, or company. Today’s cars both have some really mixed-up family trees – and that might be the only thing they have in common. Let’s check them out.

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1976 Excalibur Series III Phaeton – $33,500

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Engine/drivetrain: 454 cubic inch overhead valve V8, three-speed automatic, RWD

Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL

Odometer reading: 49,000 miles

Operational status: Runs and drives great

The whole neo-classical car phenomenon is a little strange. It’s hard for me to believe there are enough people who want to buy a car that looks like a 1920s Mercedes but drives like a 1960s Impala, but plenty of companies tried it, and they all sold at least some cars. One of the more successful companies, Excalibur, of Milwaukee, Wisconsin, started out as a Studebaker show car, designed by Brooks Stevens. Studebaker passed on the idea, but the Excalibur went into production anyway. About 3,500 Excaliburs were built over the course of twenty-seven years – not bad for a tiny company that made most of the car itself.

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Production Excaliburs all had Chevrolet V8s. Corvette 327 small-blocks were used in the early days, but this Series III car has a big-block 454, backed by a Turbo-Hydramatic 400 transmission. With a full complement of malaise-era smog equipment, this big engine only manages 215 horsepower, but it provides a good soundtrack; those side-exhaust pipes coming out of the hood are functional, not just decorative. Roaring V8 exhaust, and Roaring Twenties bodywork – it’s sort of like The Great Gatsby meets Southern Culture On The Skids.

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In contrast to the many kit car manufacturers active at the same time, Excalibur did the thing right – these cars are comfortable, and well put together, from what I’ve heard. This is the four-seat Phaeton model, with nice-looking leather seats, and a full set of gauges that all work fine. It has had some recent mechanical work, and runs like a top, the seller says.

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The bodywork on an Excalibur is fiberglass, or course, but well-done fiberglass. This one is in good condition, with only a few rock chips to tell the tale of its 49,000 miles. No worries; nobody wants a flawless car anyway. It has new tires, and includes the full convertible top and side curtains, which look like they’re in nice shape as well.

1990 Eagle Talon TSi AWD – $7,500

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Engine/drivetrain: Turbocharged 2.0-liter dual overhead cam inline 4, five-speed manual, AWD

Location: Zanesville, OH

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Odometer reading: 180,000 miles

Operational status: Doesn’t say, actually – I assume it runs fine

Chrysler’s purchase of American Motors in 1987 made for some really strange showroom-mates. This Eagle Talon is a product of Diamond-Star Motors, a joint venture between Chrysler and Mitsubishi, but it was sold alongside Jeeps and rebadged Renaults, as well as other Mitsubishi products. I feel sorry for mechanics at Jeep-Eagle dealerships in 1990; imagine having to know the ins and outs of AMC’s inline six, the notorious PRV V6, and this car’s turbocharged twin-cam four.

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The DSM factory in Normal, Illinois produced these sporty coupes with not only Eagle badges, but Mitsubishi and Plymouth as well. Three levels of power were offered; this turbocharged 2.0 liter version was the top dog, with 190 horsepower delivered to a complex all-wheel-drive system through a five-speed manual. These cars were seriously quick in their day, and became a darling of the tuner crowd. Stock Talons and Mitsubishi Eclipses are getting hard to find these days. (Plymouth only sold about six Lasers, I think, so hardly anybody even remembers them.) This one looks stock, but the seller has provided absolutely no information about its condition, so it’s hard to say for sure.

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It looks good inside and appears to be stock in there as well – right down to the factory stereo, which has an in-dash cassette deck and a CD player. Fancy stuff for 1990. The car has 180,000 miles on it, but only the sagging driver’s seat outer bolster shows it. Unfortunately, like all first-generation DSM coupes, it does have those dumb motorized shoulder belts.

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Outside, it’s got a bit of rust, though it’s hard to say how much exactly, because of those plastic lower skirts on the body. The right front fender has a hole in it, which isn’t a good sign. It’s one of the dangers of driving a cool AWD car in the Rust Belt – it’s great in the snow, but you pay for it.

I can’t imagine anyone in their right mind cross-shopping these two, but no one has ever accused me of being in my right mind. So I’m making you choose between a neo-classical hot rod convertible and a fire-breathing early 90s sports coupe. Next week, we’re continuing with the alphabet, with F through J. See you then!

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XLEJim700
XLEJim700
3 minutes ago

I heard that Super Fly wanted the Excalibur, but Huggy Bear would not budge on the price!

KYFire
KYFire
8 minutes ago

Everyday enigma Eagle eliminates expensive esoteric Excalibur

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
48 minutes ago

The Excalibur should been thrown right back into Lake Avalon, preferably on top of the Lady in the Lake. I despised these things when they came out. Now, many years have passed . . . and I still hate them But, as the saying goes, one man’s meat (always thought that should have been mead) is another man’s poison, so I’m not going to crap all over any neoclassical car fans. Obviously, I’m voting for the Talon and I bet the Motorious SWG fondly remembers the Plymouth Laser.

Griznant
Griznant
36 minutes ago
Reply to  Canopysaurus

You can’t expect to wield supreme executive power just ’cause some watery tart threw a sword at you!

Evil Kyle
Evil Kyle
49 minutes ago

I voted for the Eagle but would probably haggle down on the price. Drive it for a few years until rust takes its inevitable toll, then pull the drivetrain and junk the shell. Maybe find something like that Eagle Summit from a couple weeks ago and do an AWD swap.

The Excalibur, though… It would be hilarious to open up the 454 (or swap it out entirely) and modernize the trans to turn it into an ostentatious sleeper.

The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
57 minutes ago

I do not understand the appeal of neoclassical cars. I wonder if they made more sense in the ’70s when people were more familiar with the cars they are based on?
Like most people, I don’t know much about Mercedes-Benz products of the ’20s (or other prewar cars for that matter) and have no memories of these vehicles aside from seeing one or two in a museum. As a result, I see the Excalibur as an absurd art piece instead of an homage to a great car of the past. I think I might have a different opinion of this car if I grew up in a time when prewar cars were on the roads and not just in museums.

While I don’t get the Excalibur, I absolutely do not see the appeal of a high mileage Talon with rust holes for $7500. That price seems absurd. I’d rather have an absurd car than a car with an absurd price, so I voted for the Excalibur.

MATTinMKE
MATTinMKE
1 hour ago

Stick > automatic
AWD > RWD

Whatever. Voted Excalibur anyway.

Turbotictac
Turbotictac
44 minutes ago
Reply to  MATTinMKE

Lost me with the AWD > RWD. How am I supposed to hoon it around sideways if all 4 wheels are propelling me forward?

Frank Wrench
Frank Wrench
1 hour ago

That Excalibur is so NOT me that I’d be funny to drive it around and mess with people. That Eagle turbo 4 with a 5 speed? Sign me up!

I don't hate manual transmissions
I don't hate manual transmissions
1 hour ago

Today my free Internet play money goes to the garage queen I’d only roll out for the local car shows. That’s just so much automotive weirdness, it deserves to be shared.

MaximillianMeen
MaximillianMeen
1 hour ago

Well I guessed one out of today’s two cars. After Torch’s grille counting, I was expecting the Eagle to go up against an Edsel. But good job, Mark, for picking something out of the ordinary (not that an Edsel is an everyday sight).

Nlpnt
Nlpnt
49 minutes ago

Speaking of Torch, VW Beetle taillights and front turn signals!

Matt Sexton
Matt Sexton
1 hour ago

“In contrast to the many kit car manufacturers active at the same time, Excalibur did the thing right …”

Just have to point out, as others have, that Excaliburs are not kit cars. They were built with GM mechanicals, yes, but on bespoke frames and they were assigned unique identifying VINs.

I’m always astounded at how much these things go for, because I have a good enough sense of humor that driving one could be a hoot. But man not for what they want for them. Something’s propping up that market and I don’t know what it is, but they always seem to sell.

The Talon was by far the best-looking of the DSM triplets, and this one is even in the iconic Talon color scheme (have you ever seen one a different color?). It might be holey but you could have a lot of fun with it before you had to give up on it.

If cost was no object, that’s one of the nicer Series III’s I’ve seen, you could have some goofy fun with it and you would probably get your money back when done. But since cost is always an object (for me at least), the Talon is the way to go.

Cheats McCheats
Cheats McCheats
1 hour ago

Had 2 talons when I was younger. Nothing but headaches with both. So of course I will take a third one!!!

Turbotictac
Turbotictac
41 minutes ago

A true DSM enthusiast

Isis
Isis
1 hour ago

The rust killed it for me. Give me the wheezing V8, I can make the thing snort myself.

Max Headbolts
Max Headbolts
1 hour ago

DSMs are bigger heartbreakers than cheap BMWs, and this one has some serious rust in the rockers based on the drivers side door picture. The Excalibur can be fixed with a spork and some duct tape, and ironically will be far more reliable. I’ll drive it to get a top hat, goggles, and a long coat for full effect.

MY LEG!
MY LEG!
1 hour ago

Gimme the bird.

Gubbin
Gubbin
1 hour ago
Reply to  MY LEG!

Go birds.

Rad Barchetta
Rad Barchetta
40 minutes ago
Reply to  MY LEG!

Here you go!

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Oh, that’s not what you meant… sorry!

Mike F.
Mike F.
1 hour ago

Well, this one’s a little too easy for me. I happened to be doing reasonably well for myself (not married yet, no kids yet, no divorce yet, etc.) when the Talon was introduced, so I bought one in that color. Only car I’ve owned that had kids in other cars giving me the thumbs-up as I passed them. I had a blast with that thing and drove it into the ground. I guess I’d hope to arrest the rust by moving it here to Norcal and keep it going for as long as I could. I kinda get the Excalibur, but it’s just too much for me (even without the Talon as competition).

67Mustang
67Mustang
1 hour ago

I voted for the Eagle Talon, it was a hot car in its day, and still looks sharp.
Excaliber…nope. The dimensions are all wrong, and it looks horrible.

Chris Stevenson
Chris Stevenson
1 hour ago

Eagle Talon is one of the all-time greatest car names.

IRegertNothing, Esq.
IRegertNothing, Esq.
1 hour ago

I’ve decided to go with the kit car since the Talon is not long for this world. Ideally I’d like to buy it for way less than $33k so I have some money to look for an upgrade from the gasping and gas guzzling Malaise era sadgasm that currently moves it. An LS swap would be the expected move, with good reason. A high revving turbo 4 gives you a quick car that will confuse the shit out of people when they hear it. Personally, I’d love to see it as an EV. It becomes a total villain car if it can silently creep around the town. Cruella DeVille would have gotten her puppy coat if those dogs hadn’t heard her approaching.

Gilbert Wham
Gilbert Wham
1 hour ago

^^^This. The Eagle is Swiss cheese. It might be a hair from collapsing like a clown car under that plastic. It

Isis
Isis
1 hour ago

I am also in on the V8. You can make a 454 absolutely bonkers in a weekend or two.

Drive By Commenter
Drive By Commenter
1 hour ago

Completely agree! The Excalibur would make a great EV swap candidate. It’s already heavy with that smogger 454. Driving range probably wouldn’t take a hit, ironically.

Drew
Drew
57 minutes ago

Even if your EV swap reduced the range to nothing, it begs to be cruised around town at low speeds, anyway. Electric Excalibur would be awesome if I had enough money to spend on a weekend cruiser.

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