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Everyone Hating Upon Zuckerberg’s Porsche Cayenne Turbo GT ‘Minivan’ Is Wrong

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Yesterday, a tech billionaire made news not for the usual insipid reasons that make most of us roll our eyes, but rather for something far more benign: a customized car. The billionaire in question this time was Mark Zuckerberg, the guy who started Facebook, bought Instagram, and gave us that weird, now-dead Metaverse virtual reality/neo-Second Life thing where nobody had legs. Well, in actual reality, Zuckerberg – who does appear to have actual legs – has had a special customized Porsche Cayenne Turbo GT stretch and made in a sort of “minivan.” I’m not sure it actually fits in to the minivan order, but I do think it’s fun, and I’m somewhat surprised to the blowback that it’s gotten online. Because if you have a problem with this build, I think you’re wrong.

Actually, I really shouldn’t be surprised about blowback. This is the internet, after all, and anyone could post about making themselves a sandwich and have a reasonable expectation there will be hordes of commenters letting them know that sandwich is the worst, most miserable thing in existence and what’s more, it’s an immoral sandwich that encapsulates everything wrong in the world now, with too much mustard. I get that.

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In this case, though, I think it makes sense to defend this rich man’s car, which isn’t something I’m generally inclined to do – at least in part because they’re generally not this interesting.

Okay, first, here’s the Insta post where the car was revealed:

 

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So, what’s going on here is that the Zuckerberg family, which now seems to have three offspring, at least two of whom are named after cars (Maxima and Aurelia, though I can’t prove it was specifically the Nissan and Lancia cars they were named for) and that means the Zucks need something to haul a bunch of kids around in. They need a minivan, because, whether we like to admit it or not, we almost all do, at least sometimes.

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So, Zuckerberg got a new Porsche Cayenne Turbo GT– the “coupé” one (it’s not really a coupé, it just has a more raked fastback) – which makes about 650 horsepower, gets to 60 in 3.1 seconds, and can go just 10 mph shy of 200 mph. You know, solid minivan-requirement specs. As a self-respecting minivan, this thing needs sliding doors, so the Cayenne was taken to West Coast Customs, who stretched the SUV and added a pair of sliding doors.

Inside, there’s a second row with captain’s chairs, and what appears to be a bench seat behind that, making this Cayenne a legitimate seven-seater, meaning there’s enough room for the whole Zuckerberg family and two more, maybe personal assistants or astrologers or whomever they like to travel with.

Response to the stretched Cayenne has been surprisingly mixed, I think. While there’s been plenty of positive takes, there’s also been a surprising amount of anger and revulsion and wrath:

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I’m mostly addressing the people who seem to have an issue with the stretched Cayenne itself when I say that they’re wrong: people against it because of who Zuckerberg is or even in favor of it for who he is I’m ignoring because I just don’t care about that. Being super-into some billionaire, any of them, feels a little weird to me, anyway. No, we’re here to just talk about the car.

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So, with that in mind, let’s dig in:

First, It’s Not Really A Minivan. It’s More Of A Limo

This has been brought up by a good number of people commenting in various places already, but it’s worth noting: Just stretching an SUV and adding sliding doors does not a minivan make. A minivan is about proportion! A minivan is taller in proportion to length, generally has a truncated hood, and a more box-like body. I once defined van traits as these:

 • A main, box-like body designed to maximize interior volume

• A hood-to-overall-body ratio (hood is measured from the base of the A-pillar to the front end) significantly less than most other vehicle types. That is, a van should have a relatively short hood for its body length

• A taller body than most other vehicles

• An integrated cab with only one row of seats (even if more seating is available in the rear section)

• (Usually) Side doors designed to facilitate loading and unloading of bulky objects or larger numbers of people. Can be sliding doors or swing-out doors.

A minivan can fit seven people in the same space, length-wise, as a conventional car. This thing can’t because it actually has become a limo more than anything else. Sure, sliding doors aren’t common on a limo, but stretching a car inside of its wheelbase and not changing any other dimension is what a limo is, fundamentally. And that’s what this is: a stretched Cayenne Turbo GT Limo with sliding doors. But it can certainly work like a minivan, in the sense it’ll haul a lot of people!

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There is some precedent here, too: back in 1967, a Porsche dealer named William Dick had a 911 stretched into a four-door for his wife, and that process was pretty much the same basic limoification process used on that Cayenne. Make it longer, add doors.

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Second, This Is Way Better Than Him Buying Some Dumb Fancy Off-The-Rack SUV

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This is the real meat of everything, right here: there’s no reason why the Zuck couldn’t have just bought some Lamborghini Urus or Bugatti Bentayaga or Rolls-Royce Cullinan or some other hyper-expensive big dumb SUV. That would have been the easy way, and it’s significant that that’s not the route taken. Instead, we get something genuinely bonkers, and that’s what we advocate!

If we’re going to have people on Earth with absurd amounts of money, why shouldn’t they spend that money with independent craftspeople and artisans to build one-of-a-kind bonkers cars? Maybe we should demand that this is what happens, legally, enforced with a crack team of commandos who will work over any billionaire who bores the public buying some expected bullshit luxury or supercar!

The more custom weird shit, the better. Besides, it’s not like a Cayenne is some precious thing; it’s fine to turn one of these into something ridiculous!

 

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It’s Not His Fault He Can’t Get A Good Luxury Minivan

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It’s also worth noting that there really aren’t any good premium-brand, luxury minivans you can just buy in America. The Kia Carnival, for example, is a great minivan with a striking design and well-equipped, but it’s still branded a Kia, and, even worse, named for an event best known for deep-fried stunt foods and creepy carnies, neither of which America’s upper classes go out of their way to be associated with.

Brand snobbery is absolutely idiotic, but it’s real, and it seems absurd that Toyota hasn’t re-badged one of their Japan-market luxury minivans like the Alphard or Vellfire as a Lexus yet. Why not? It makes no sense! There should be luxury minivan options for just normal-rich rich people, the same people who end up buying luxury SUVs like Lincoln Navigators or Cadillac Escalades or, yes, regular Cayennes, because a minivan is objectively better than an SUV at the job of moving six to nine people in comfort.

It’s only the idiotic minivan stigma that prevents this from happening, and I dearly hope that’s on its way out.

Remember, companies have toyed with this idea before! Even Porsche experimented with minivan ideas, on multiple occasions. They put 911 engines in Vanagons, and they also had their own unique designs, like the Varerra in the early ’90s:

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If anything, the lesson from Zuckerberg’s Stretching of the Cayenne is that the Age of Premium Minivans is about to begin. We’ve been waiting far too long already.

 

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Wrdtrggr
Wrdtrggr
2 months ago

The Varerra looks like a MK1 Renault Twingo on steroids. Or the thing that turns up in the car park when you bully a Twingo for being so small and happy looking.

Last edited 2 months ago by Wrdtrggr
Spectre6000
Spectre6000
2 months ago

Isn’t there a Mercedes minivan? R-Class maybe?

LMCorvairFan
LMCorvairFan
2 months ago

I have no problem with the car/van per-se. I do object to Zuck saying he ‘designed it’. That’s a at a minimum an Elon level stretch of reality.

Bite Me
Bite Me
2 months ago

Look I love bonkers cars of all stripes but this one is dumb. It looks awkward at those proportions, not quite limo and certainly not as slick as William Dick’s stretched 911. I don’t think it says “I have fuck-you money and needed a minivan”, it looks more like a project car for a YouTuber who only wants to go viral with their stretched used Cayenne. I just think that if they wanted luxury in a van, they could’ve done a custom Maybach Sprinter. That could’ve been pretty rad and ostentatious and car-newsworthy with a 2-tone paintjob like the Maybach S-Class and all the kit, without looking like something that’s going to collapse in the middle if it goes over a gnarly pothole.

Musicman27
Musicman27
2 months ago

That Vellfire looks, well, fire. The grill I like a brick wall though lol.

Musicman27
Musicman27
2 months ago

Actually, I really shouldn’t be surprised about blowback. This is the internet, after all, and anyone could post about making themselves a sandwich and have a reasonable expectation there will be hordes of commenters letting them know that sandwich is the worst, most miserable thing in existence and what’s more, it’s an immoral sandwich that encapsulates everything wrong in the world now, with too much mustard. I get that.”

Dude just summarized the internet in 1 paragraph. Kudo’s to Torch

Musicman27
Musicman27
2 months ago
Reply to  Musicman27

Dude’s a frickin prophet too.

Ana Osato
Ana Osato
2 months ago

People call it ugly, say it sucks, looks AI… they aren’t wrong, but those descriptions suit any Porsche product.
Why he chose the most generic cars in a colour so bland Porsche would happily offer it, that’s what puzzles the most.

Musicman27
Musicman27
2 months ago
Reply to  Ana Osato

I don’t think porches are ugly (their certainly not the prettiest on the block, but not ugly) but I agree. Why choose the most boring color you can think of and put it on a high-performance minivan?

Rafael
Rafael
2 months ago

This thing cosplaying as human has enough money to commission a full production run of the Varrera, and instead did this?
I don’t hate the car, but it is a missed opportunity.

Stef Schrader
Stef Schrader
2 months ago

No, we’re right. This thing sucks. It’s just like everything Zuck touches in tech, too: they added a bunch of garbage that ultimately makes the original thing worse for its intended purpose. It’s giving “Enshittification: The Vehicle.”

I’m all for wacky stuff, but don’t call a limo a “minivan,” and if you’re going to Cayenne limo it up, at least pick a better color and have a visually coherent roofline. This poor parsh is an eyesore now, and goshdarnit, a ‘Ring-beating Turbo GT deserved better. Level of surprise that Zuckerberg is a Slate Gray dork: zero. The man has all the personality of used chewing gum and buying a GT3 Touring to match (in the same boring grey!) can’t fix that.

The most egregious sin here isn’t “U RUNE PARSH!!2” or whatever. It’s that the structural integrity of a cut-and-stretched vehicle is always going to be worse. That’s why limo crashes get hella gnarly: they’re structurally compromised in the middle. So, when it comes to this thing’s stated purpose — hauling kids — it’s far worse than just buying a purpose-built three-row minivan or SUV.

Third-row safety admittedly isn’t great in any vehicle sold today and you’d lose some leg room by just buying a Sienna or whatever, but it would be far safer than a vehicle that’s been chopped in half and lengthened. You can build a bitchin’ minivan, too! Bisimoto’s absolute burnout machine comes to mind here.

(Side rant about other coverage I’ve read today: It’s disappointing to see other car pubs suddenly go to bat for this dweeb after he bought a couple of Porsches. Zuck’s trash website is why your elderly relatives seem to live in a different reality full of seven-fingered misinformation, not to mention why a bunch of our colleagues in media lost their jobs after Facebook lied about its video numbers and convinced a bunch of outlets to pivot to video. Zuck can’t just parsh his way out of that. He’s deeply negligent at best if not actively evil, and everything he touches deserves to be approached with scrutiny and skepticism. In other words, I will not be participating in the Zuckerberg Image Rehab Tour, and may God have mercy on your gullible soul if you fell for it.)

Last edited 2 months ago by Stef Schrader
Rafael
Rafael
2 months ago
Reply to  Stef Schrader

This guy is a merchant of hate in the most literal way possible.

JP15
JP15
2 months ago
Reply to  Stef Schrader

Sheesh, but how do you really feel? 😀

OrigamiSensei
OrigamiSensei
2 months ago
Reply to  Stef Schrader

“if you’re going to Cayenne limo it up, at least pick a better color and have a visually coherent roofline”

This right here. If he had started with a regular Cayenne rather than the coupe I think I would have simply chuckled and moved on. And yeah, the boring color just accentuates the utter lack of panache – but at least it helps resale value, amirite? (/s)

Eva
Eva
2 months ago
Reply to  Stef Schrader

Adding on to the Facebook issues, open complicity in genocide in Myanmar and others around the world. The dude is dripping in blood, you do not have to hand it to him just because it happened on the other side of the world and the west likes to forget it.

Stef Schrader
Stef Schrader
2 months ago
Reply to  Eva

YUP. Extremely disappointing to read takes across the car-coverage-iverse chuckling that “gawrsh, he’s a car guy just like us!” Yeah, no. You can’t park a longer Cayenne in front of stuff like Myanmar and hope it goes away.

667
667
2 months ago
Reply to  Stef Schrader

Thank you !!!

Viking Longcar
Viking Longcar
2 months ago
Reply to  Stef Schrader

“Enshittification: The Vehicle” feels like its worth an article unto itself. Doctorow’s “enshitification” explanation of the tech sector is one best I’ve seen.

JKcycletramp
JKcycletramp
2 months ago
Reply to  Stef Schrader

Yep, stretched cars are awful. My approach would have been:
1, Order Sprinter chassis-cab
2, Send to Italdesign
3, Wait to see what madness hits my driveway

Stef Schrader
Stef Schrader
2 months ago
Reply to  JKcycletramp

Yes. Yessssss. There are big vehicles with more legroom and sliding doors baked-in already! He could make the world’s silliest Sprinter and even give it one of those dumb light-up Mercedes badges in a vain attempt to get people to pay attention to that instead of all the weird misinformation spread on Facebook via Minion memes.

Last edited 2 months ago by Stef Schrader
Dan Cleaveley
Dan Cleaveley
2 months ago

“It seems absurd that Toyota hasn’t re-badged one of their Japan-market luxury minivans like the Alphard or Vellfire as a Lexus yet”

Other than the two generations of Lexus LM?
https://www.lexus.com.au/models/lm/overview

Sam Gross
Sam Gross
2 months ago
Reply to  Dan Cleaveley

I was going to say, I’m pretty sure they’ve done exactly the badge engineering and predator maw-ing required.

Andreas8088
Andreas8088
2 months ago
Reply to  Dan Cleaveley

I think he meant “In the US”.

Roofless
Roofless
2 months ago

Two notes:

1. Agree. We’re car-positive here, and Zuck turning a Cayenne into a minivan is objectively rad. More rich people need to do interesting shit with their money.

2. We should be far, far more concerned that one of the richest men on earth keeps naming his kids after Roman emperors. The MMA thing is weird, but whatever. The Hawaiian bunker is tacky and stupid, but whatever. The car thing, reasonable people can differ. But one of the most powerful people on the planet having a Roman emperor fetish? Not great!

JamesRL
JamesRL
2 months ago

I think we’re missing the real meat of his post.

Manual GT3.

I did not know creepy lizard people knew how to drive God’s Transmission.

Makes me actually think he is slightly relatable.

Mazzaratti5
Mazzaratti5
2 months ago
Reply to  JamesRL

I don’t really care about the minivan, but I was very intrigued to read the other day that he dailies a CT-5 Blackwing. I have to assume that one is an AT, especially if he has this too.

Lizardman in a human suit
Lizardman in a human suit
2 months ago
Reply to  JamesRL

HEY! HE AINT ONE OF OURS!

Slow Joe Crow
Slow Joe Crow
2 months ago

I don’t care what a Silicon Valley tech bro does to a car I don’t care about. Now Mercedes Streeter or David Tracy messing with a Cayenne sounds interesting.
More on topic I think the Toyota Alphard needs to be available in the US

Horizontally Opposed
Horizontally Opposed
2 months ago

I think you’re mixing up the issues here a focusing a bit much on details which the internet has no patience for. People don’t dump on him for car reasons- they do because he’s a billionaire bragging about *his build. See, the issue here is in the title: “bragging billionaire”. You can be either but not both.

Cerberus
Cerberus
2 months ago

Not my taste in any way (I’d rather have an old hearse if I needed the space), but more interesting than a stock Porsche or something off the shelf.

Shooting Brake
Shooting Brake
2 months ago

Hilarious and excellent, but should have used the normal backed Cayenne, not the silly “coupe”, that’s my only note. We need more family cars with sliding doors, they rock!

Peter d
Peter d
2 months ago

The good news is that this project kept many artisans employed for a while, and they likely learned a few new skills that they can apply to future projects – this benefits us all. In general I like the idea of a stretched Cayenne, but to my eye this may have stretched too much and it looks too out of proportion.

There is not a lot available that has easy-to-use high-performance for 6 or 7 humans. My neighbor has a model X that he got for his big family, but usually I see them driving their X7. Going domestic you can get the big Escalade, (I do not think the Navigator or Wagoneer is really in the same performance/comfort league for a daily for this number of people) but my guess is this custom car has better, more comfortable seating arrangements. From Japanese OEMs you have the big Lexi or the Infiniti QX80 or whatever their monster SUV is – although my neighbor traded his in for an Escalade and he seems to much, much prefer the Escalade. They frequently have six people in the car – mom, dad, grampa, grandma, and two kids – sometimes more with kids’ friends. This is not something I need, so I do not spend much attention and therefore I have likely missed a couple of good contenders – there are only two of us with occasionally another couple.

Cryptoenologist
Cryptoenologist
2 months ago
Reply to  Peter d

Rivian R1S is probably the closest today. Seats 7 and currently available with up to 850hp.

Peter d
Peter d
2 months ago

I love the proportions of the R1T, and if I was going to go EV that is what I would buy today – but damn is that thing big – I don’t think it will fit in my garage – which probably means the R1S can readily seat 7. Good call.

The World of Vee
The World of Vee
2 months ago

I’m all for this, more people should commission cars. But why coupe? And why chalk?

Please for the love of everything, Porsche has a million colors to choose from and you basically chose milk.

Stef Schrader
Stef Schrader
2 months ago

I feel insulted on behalf of milk, good sir. Milk has more character than this grey.

The World of Vee
The World of Vee
2 months ago
Reply to  Stef Schrader

I’m sticking with my original statement stef.

Musicman27
Musicman27
2 months ago
Reply to  Stef Schrader

Not much more…

CampoDF
CampoDF
2 months ago

So why the hell did they use the “coupe” one for a GD minivan? This looks really bad anyway but the decision to use a coupe for the minivan just adds to the stupidity. Coupe SUVs are terrible designs. All of them, including Porsche’s options.

Ea Gregory
Ea Gregory
2 months ago

That’s a pretty cool car, love to see more about the build. West Coast Customs does a damn good job usually. I’m hoping they filmed the whole job. It’s OK to hate on Zuk, but remember this is a car site…although…it would be weird to say “Look at this amazing VW Bug that Hitler designed for the latest Nazi Rally”. It’s a tough one, for sure.

Mechjaz
Mechjaz
2 months ago

What’s really weird is that when you look down, there aren’t any pedals. Then again, what would you do with them with no legs, anyway?

EmotionalSupportBMW
EmotionalSupportBMW
2 months ago

The Zuk was quoted as saying “This is my human car. It fits numerous humans. For which, I have a need. Because, I’m certainly human. Often having human experiences with other confirmed persons. And any speculation to me being inorganic are not correct.”

Parsko
Parsko
2 months ago

Toyota Vellfire is the right solution, this is not. Zuck can do what he wants, and this is definitely a limo. But the Vellfires are amazing.

Parsko
Parsko
2 months ago
Reply to  Parsko

Sorry, the Alphard. Either are better.

Comet_65cali
Comet_65cali
2 months ago

I don’t hate him for commissioning a custom Cayenne.

But that doesn’t mean I have to like the design.

A Nonymous
A Nonymous
2 months ago

The Uber wealthy do NOT pay 97% of our taxes.

  • The top 1 percent’s income share rose from 22.2 percent in 2020 to 26.3 percent in 2021 and its share of federal income taxes paid rose from 42.3 percent to 45.8 percent.
  • The top 50 percent of all taxpayers paid 97.7 percent of all federal individual income taxes, while the bottom 50 percent paid the remaining 2.3 percent.

Source: https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/federal/latest-federal-income-tax-data-2024/

A Nonymous
A Nonymous
2 months ago
Reply to  A Nonymous

Just to be clear:

You posted an incorrect statement.

I corrected you. I included a source.

Rather than admitting you made a mistake you are now trying to change the discussion.

Perhaps you’d care to provide the source of your original 97% claim?

Last edited 2 months ago by A Nonymous
Rafael
Rafael
2 months ago
Reply to  A Nonymous

I think the guy is trolling, but I thought trolls at least tried to a) be funny and b) made sense

Andreas8088
Andreas8088
2 months ago
Reply to  Rafael

Yeah, that was a confusing troll…..

667
667
2 months ago
Reply to  A Nonymous

Don’t mind this douche, tomorrow he’ll have changed username, he is a diarrhea mop.

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