Good morning! Today’s Shitbox Showdown is an intervention of sorts, and a glimpse at some of the rust-free wonders on offer in southern California. I’ll explain in a minute. First, though, there is the small matter of yesterday’s inline sixes to attend to:
On, Comet! The Mercury sedan burned brightly in your imagination; after all, cars like this only come around every so often. And yeah, it’s not likely to ever be a prized classic, but any further depreciation should have a long tail.
Ahem. Anyway, to new business. Transplants from colder and saltier climates are often awestruck by the variety of old cars in and around Los Angeles. It can be a bit overwhelming. You give yourself whiplash gawking at a street-parked Saab 96, and stare openly at the faded boat-tail Buick Riviera in the Ralphs parking lot. And then you start perusing the classifieds. And that’s where the danger starts.
Our intrepid editor-in-chief has fallen down the rabbit hole of Craigslist and Facebook Marketplace listings since relocating to the Golden State from dreary rust-addled Detroit, and posts a near-constant stream of ads to our Slack channel, where the rest of us offer encouragement, or, sometimes, just try to let him down easy. Yesterday, however, he posted something that raised some alarm bells for this cool cheap car connoisseur: a Chevette. No. Bad David. You don’t come to southern California and waste precious cool old car capital on a damned Chevette. That’s like going to Magic Mountain and spending the whole day trying to knock over those stupid milk bottles to win a stuffed Marvin the Martian. There are a whole lot of other much cooler things that are way more worthy of your attention. Like these two, for instance.
1980 Chevrolet LUV – $5,000
Engine/drivetrain: 1.8 liter overhead cam inline 4, four-speed manual, RWD
Location: Mar Vista, CA
Odometer reading: 77,000 miles (but it’s broken)
Runs/drives? Yep!
Before there was the S-10, there was the LUV. This captive-import Isuzu pickup handled the compact end of Chevy’s truck lineup for ten years before being replaced by a home-brewed compact truck. Chevy wasn’t alone in the captive-import game, of course; Ford and Dodge also sold Japanese-made trucks with their own badges. Years later, all three turned the tables on their former small truck suppliers and sold their own American-made trucks under Isuzu, Mazda, and Mitsubishi badges – but that’s a story for another day.
Today our focus is this impossibly clean ’80 LUV. These things rusted under a crisp morning dew, so finding one this rust-free, even in LA, is a real treat. It’s too bad it’s appliance-white; LUVs were available in some wonderfully bright colors, and with some incredible stripe packages. But at this age, I’ll take clean and shiny over rusty but striped. That awful ill-fitting topper has to go, though.
The interior is mighty clean as well, but missing a few things, like carpet, and at least one window crank. I’m not sure what’s with the blanking plate over the radio opening, with the toggle switches and what looks like a USB port in the middle – maybe there’s an amplifier in there? A hidden sound system would explain the sound-deadening material. But come on, man; get some carpet remnants and cut them to shape. There’s no reason for the floor to look like a Jiffy Pop container.
It’s a little on the expensive side to use for serious hardcore truck purposes, but for weekend hardware store runs, it’s just the thing. You don’t need a three-quarter-ton V8-powered monster to pick up mulch and paint; this will do the trick just fine, and a lot more economically, and with more style.
1986 Alfa Romeo Spider Graduate – $5,000
Engine/drivetrain: 2.0 liter dual overhead cam inline 4, five-speed manual, RWD
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Odometer reading: 64,000 miles (but it’s also broken)
Runs/drives? Sure does
But then again, we’re talking southern California here. Sunshine and twisty canyon roads are in abundance, perfect conditions for a little classic inexpensive sports car. And nobody does them better than the Brits and the Italians (quiet, Miata owners; I said “classic”). And Alfa Romeo’s Spider, unofficially called the “Duetto” but never officially because there was already a candy bar with that name, is one of the finest examples out there.
You can tell the different generations of Alfa Spiders apart by their tails. The third generation has this weird rubber spoiler on the back; it’s a styling cue that I’ve never quite understood, but you can’t deny it’s distinctive. This is the “Graduate” model, a special lower-cost US version named after the Spider’s famous appearance in The Graduate. (Hey, maybe that’s why the big black spoiler is there. One word: Plastics.) This car would have originally come with steel wheels; I’m not sure how I feel about the white alloys. They could be worse, I guess, but I’m sure you all will have plenty of your own opinions.
It runs and drives, the seller says, but could use a little refreshing; from the sounds of it, the suspension is worn out, and obviously the interior has seen better days. The top looks more or less watertight, but the back window is pretty opaque, and could use replacing. Or, you know, just drive it with the top down. The seller says they’ve driven it daily for ten years, so obviously the odometer reading isn’t anywhere near accurate; it would be worth asking how long ago the odometer stopped turning.
It’s shiny, at least – it has a fresh Maaco respray, and there’s no sign of the front end damage that’s so common on these. That sharp Pininfarina styling was not designed for easy repair, and lots of Spiders end up with salvage titles and wrinkled noses after a minor front-end collision. This one is straight, and the title is clean.
Now, obviously, these options are both quite a bit more expensive than the $1000 Chevette that David found. But a good friend of mine in college gave me some advice about drinking that I think applies to cars as well: He told me to only ever drink the expensive stuff you really like, so you can’t afford to get really drunk. Likewise, car collections should focus on quality, not quantity. A few curated selections are more impressive, more fun, and less work than a whole bunch of clunkers. Which one of these would you add to your collection?
(Image credits: Craigslist sellers)
Needs new rear window and someone’s eaten part of the centre console, and it’s black so get to look dirty quickly: So not that Spider for me, even though I love them and have owned a 1975 one.
So the truck for me: I’ll drive it to the beach and sleep in the back to get as much fresh air as in the Spider.
“car collections should focus on quality, not quantity”
Wow, since when are we sensible around here? But you’ve got a point.
I’ve never seen a LUV that clean – hell, I’ve barely seen any in my lifetime, growing up in New Hampshire in the ’90s and ’00s.
The Alfa’s lovely (well, the wheels are just okay), and I’m not voting against it, but the li’l captive Isuzu would be a perfect April-through-November machine for gardening, home repairs, and taking things to the dump.
The LUV is neat,but I have to vote for the Alfa. Horrible wheels though.
I LUV the Chevy LUV! Almost voted for the Spider since it has a decent design/fun car…but the LUV is more my kind of vehicle. Love old compact/mini trucks especially unique ones like this
Another spider for me. I wouldn’t mind the trucklet but not at $5,000 and so much more needing done.
If the LUV were a 4X4, I’d be on a plane right now, but 4X2 ain’t gonna cut it.
Alfa all the way.
I voted Alfa, I have a pickup (coincidentally capable of trailering the Alfa) and want a convertible.
“A few curated selections are more impressive, more fun, and less work than a whole bunch of clunkers.”
Want to shout that one a little louder for those in the back, ie the Autopian founders offices?
But an orphanage with only one kid is kind of boring…
Jason has the pos f150, pao, beetle and Changli + he bought a pos vw hatchback on heels
David seems to be at least trying to reform his rust holding ways
Mercedes is the new king/queen of the shit heaps… as said in Tx… “bless her heart”
I had a LUV Mikado and it was seriously the best truck ever. So practical and easy to live with and even entertaining to drive. This one isn’t worth 5K, but I miss mine so much I’d almost do it if I had $5,000 laying around because there aren’t many LUVs left.
These both seem too high, but the Alfa almost pulls it off. If it looked crappier, and the LUV were a different color, with at least rubber floor mats, it’d be a closer battle.
I never liked that tail on the Alfa—I was very happy with the redesign ca. 1990—but this is still an easy choice. Even with those wheels.
For $5000, I’d rather have that Alfa. So that’s my vote.
Normally I’d pick an Alfa over damn near anything. But not today. You can find a Spider in that condition any day of the week for that price or lower. But a LUV? That runs? And isn’t a tetanus factory? Sign me the hell up.
That’s a solid argument and I wish I could change my vote…
100% that nose is bondo. You can see the classic-halfmoon frown crack in the paint, pretty much spanning the “heart” (Alfa logo/bumper thing) in front
I was gonna say, every time I’ve seen those signs, it’s because a huger amount of that nose is bondo
Friendly reminder: Do either one of these “fine” units come with a current smog certificate? If not both could be a can of worms. Course if you’re going fishing…lol
Parts may be a problem for both of these…hard to find for the Isuzu…and maybe just expensive for the Alfa. Still chose the Alfa. If I need a truck, I’ll rent one.
It’s really incredibly what fresh paint will forgive.
Which is why I went with the Alfa.
Step 1: Buy LUV
Step 2: Put mattress in bed, drive around offering people a ride in my LUV machine
Step 3: Profit! Or sex offender registry.
I guess step 3 depends on 1. WHO you ask and 2. HOW you ask.
Never choose Matt Gaetz as your wingman…
Goo-goo-kachoo, Mr. Tuckerson.
My first year in college, I lived in a dorm that didn’t have a cafeteria, so we walked down to the women’s dorm that did. We frequently passed a brand-new Graduate with “BUFFY” personalized plates (this is well before the vampire slayer). Of course, we assumed it belonged to some spoiled sorority girl, until one of friends who was a physics major told us it belonged to Dr. Gleeson, a physics professor. Probably my favorite professor in college.
“… since relocating to the Golden State from dreary rust-addled Detroit,…”
Hey! We may be rust-addled, but we get a solid 6 months of non-dreary weather per year. I’d rather live in Michigan surrounded by fresh water than a state that goes up like a Roman candle every year.
Yeah, and unlike the high and mighty ‘eco’ Californians, we compost 100% of our vehicles here in the north!