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Ford Agrees To Give Dealers Money Back After Making Them Install EV Chargers

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It’s the National Auto Dealers Association show this week and luckily it’s being held in the one place that’ll never have to deal with massive amounts of snow in January: New Orleans. Taps earpiece. I’ve been informed that New Orleans is now a giant, boozy snow globe.

The Morning Dump is going to start in the Big Easy, where some dealers are gathered. You don’t need a reason to party in New Orleans, but if you’re a Ford dealer there are up to 240,000 reasons to celebrate as that’s the much Ford might reimburse you if you installed EV chargers in the company’s push to be an electric brand.

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While the company might be slowing its EV ambitions, it’s still one of the biggest sellers of electric cars in this country, even if the United States isn’t expanding in the EV market at quite the rate that many automakers had hoped. Where else might EVs work? India, here we come.

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Ford Reimbursing Dealers Up To $240,000 For Aborted EV Expansion Plans

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The early 2020s were a wild time. COVID was all the rage. Taylor Swift fans were mad at Jake Gyllenhaal. Many of the biggest car companies, looking at Tesla’s growth, assumed they’d be selling millions of EVs as soon as they put them on the market.

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In order to prepare for this, Ford created its Model e dealership certification program. There were two levels: Model e Certified Elite and Model e Certified, with the Elite plan requiring a huge investment in public chargers and service and the non-Elite plan requiring a smaller investment. If dealers didn’t agree to this plan they’d be unable to get new electric cars and trucks to sell.

Here’s Detroit Free Press article outlining how many dealers had voluntarily enrolled in the initial version of the program as of December 2022 — about 1,920 of Ford’s approximately 3,000 dealers. As soon as it became clear that not everyone was going to be able to find Tesla-like performance, especially amid a price war, dealers joined much of the rest of the industry in trying to figure out what to do next.

By December 2023 the number of interested dealers dropped to about half, and many other dealers and dealer groups sued Ford stating that it was an unreasonable and discriminatory form of distribution that violated their franchise agreement.

Ford eventually relented and canceled the program. Here’s what the company said at the time of canceling, via CNBC:

“The world has changed,” Marin Gjaja, chief operating officer of Ford’s Model E electric vehicle business, said Thursday during a media briefing. “The growth has slowed down.”

Gjaja said the Model e Dealership Program, which included about half of Ford’s 2,800 U.S. dealers, “is being sunset” as the market undergoes changing conditions and amid conversations with dealers. The company had faced lawsuits from dealers over the program.

Instead, Ford will open EV sales to all of its dealers in an attempt to grow sales of its all-electric cars and trucks.

What about the dealers who started the program? According to Automotive News, they’re going to get a nice little reimbursement:

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One option, according to a bulletin sent to retailers and obtained by Automotive News, would give dealers $10,000 per Level 3 charger installed plus $2,000 per EV retailed through 2026, up to a maximum of $80,000 for each charger. For dealers who asked for more time to sell EVs, Ford added the option of taking $1,750 per vehicle retailed through 2027, with the same $80,000 maximum per charger.

Both options would pay out up to $240,000 because Ford had required dealers to install as many as three Level 3 chargers.

A third option would give dealers immediate payments of $40,000 per Level 3 charger installed, up to $120,000. This option would not include any money back for each EV sold but might be better for smaller, rural dealerships that don’t anticipate selling many EVs in the next few years and want the money faster.

That’s not bad. Also, my guess is that many of the dealers who really ramped up probably serve a market (like, say, Southern California’s Galpin Ford) that has a lot of EV customers and can use this money, potentially, to improve charging capabilities and training. Will this encourage David to buy more i3s or busted Leafs?

NADA Update: ‘The Good News Is The Party Is Still Going On, And There Will Be Plenty Of Booze’

The nation’s auto dealers were supposed to all descend on New Orleans this week for the big annual conference, in what I’m sure was to be the kind of teetotaling and restrained businesslike atmosphere that the city is known for. Instead, a freak historic snowstorm shut down the airport, and now dealers who didn’t get in early or can’t drive are stuck at home.

This is a bummer, as Automotive News reports:

A pre-NADA Show private party hosted by five industry vendors was impacted by the weather. The caterer for the Jan. 22 event canceled, leaving hosts to figure out how to feed guests.

”We’re looking at pizza places, restaurants to order from,” said Laurie Halter of Charisma! Communications, one of the hosts. “The good news is the party is still going on, and there will be plenty of booze.”

Two beignets and four hurricanes is roughly the average diet of a New Orleans tourist, so I’m glad the people who are there are at least having some fun.

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These Five Cars Made Up More Than Half Of EV Sales Last December

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Now that we’ve got a full read on December sales and, perhaps more importantly, a sense of the new White House’s plans for electric cars, we can dive deeper into the data.

According to Cox Automotive’s latest numbers, just five cars made up about 54% of all EV sales in December:

  1. Tesla Model Y
  2. Tesla Model 3
  3. Honda Prologue
  4. Ford Mustang Mach-E
  5. Chevrolet Equinox EV

Obviously, most of those sales are of the two Teslas, but so far the Prologue has been a big seller and I’ve been impressed with how it’s already outflanked its GM platform-mates. There’s been so much demand lately for EVs that supply has stabilized a bit and prices are even going up. From Cox:

In December, the average transaction price for new electric vehicles was $55,544, marking a 1.1% increase from the previous month and a 0.8% rise from the previous year. EV incentives were equal to 14.3% of the ATP last month, which was lower than in November when EV incentives were equal to 14.7%. In December, the ATP for a new EV was $6,274 higher than the ICE+ ATP ($49,270), the second-lowest premium in 2024. The top five most affordable EVs in December were the Nissan Leaf, Fiat 500e, Hyundai Kona, Kia Niro and Chevrolet Equinox.

If Congress moves to remove the tax credit I suspect we’ll see a big rush of sales at the last minute.

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Is India The Next Big EV Market?

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It’s not just NADA this week, it’s also the Bharat Mobility Global Expo 2025 in India. This is the third biggest market after China and the United States, so automakers that are having trouble moving electric cars in other places are eyeing a future there.

Electric cars are all the rage at the Bharat Expo, which is India’s biggest car show.

From Bloomberg:

India is starting from a low point. While electric car sales have surged — a 55-fold jump in six years — even an 18% year-on-year increase in the 12 months to December 2024 only took the world’s most populous nation to 113,715 vehicles, according to BloombergNEF. Falling battery costs and new models mean that number is likely to overtake traditional cars, but only by 2039.

Viewed one way, that’s not great, but viewed another way it just means there’s a lot of room for growth. At the show were representatives of European, Indian, Japanese, Vietnamese, Korean, and Chinese brands. Many of these companies were showing electric cars, albeit of the lower-cost variety.

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In honor of all those who made it to New Orleans, here’s The Simpsons doing a musical version of A Streetcar Named Desire. “Oh, Streetcar!”

The Big Question

If you bought an EV, which did you buy? If you were forced to buy an EV, what would you get?

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Defenestrator
Defenestrator
26 days ago

I have a Volt right now that mostly does the job (electric around town, gas for road trips). I’m really tempted by the Ioniq 5N, but the range hit is just a bit too big. It’d be painful for longer trips. Probably either a Polestar 2 or EV6 Wind today since Lucid’s way out of the budget. At this point I’m leaning towards an R3 or R3X in a couple years.

Mike B
Mike B
30 days ago

Rivian R1S is the only EV I’d be interested in, but it’s far out of budget. Maybe an R2 or R3 if they ever come out, but charging is still a problem where I live.

Sackofcheese
Sackofcheese
30 days ago

I almost bought a new Mach E last year since I can charge for free at work, and blue cruise makes the 150mi/day commute nicer. However stomaching the fact that it would be basically worthless at the end of the loan, and the question mark of if it would even make it 200k after 5 years scared me out of it. I bought a 2018 Civic Type R instead (Thats what I really wanted anyway)

If I was forced to buy one, I’d look hard at used F150 Lightnings because I love the way the current gen F150 drives, I can charge for free at work and I could use a truck. I’d also look at Tesla Model 3 Perfomances because they’re dirt cheap used, and with a couple grand in suspension, wheels, and tires they’re a hell of an autocross weapon. However I couldn’t charge it for free at work.

Will Leavitt
Will Leavitt
30 days ago
Reply to  Sackofcheese

Why can’t you charge it for free at work? Teslas come with an adaptor for standard J-1772 level-2 chargers.

Sackofcheese
Sackofcheese
29 days ago
Reply to  Will Leavitt

My employer only allows FoMoCo products to use the free chargers onsite. One of the downsides of working at an OEM is the parking situation if you like other brands too.

Christopher Glowacki
Christopher Glowacki
30 days ago

Bought very lightly used ‘23 Bolt EUV last year with just 1055 miles on the clock at time of purchase. Grey Ghost LT trim optioned with the blue leather interior, heated and ventilated seats, power drivers seat, heated steering wheel. I have a very short commute, about 3.2-3.3 miles round trip back and forth to work, and other errand running. Compact car but doesn’t feel cramped, I find it pretty comfortable. It’s got CarPlay unlike GMs newer Ultium EVs(except for the Lyriq, which gets it) and it’s a fantastic runabout. Also have the adapter to use Tesla Superchargers and that’s great on the admittedly rare occasion I need to charge away from home. It’s no Model S Plaid but it is quick for what is essentially a compact hatchback with extra headroom ala Pontiac Vibe/Toyota Matrix twins and is entertaining enough to drive. Great car

Dinklesmith
Dinklesmith
30 days ago

I have an EV–a Mustang Mach E. I think Ford does the best out of the non-Tesla EVs and lord knows I’m never buying a Tesla, as I dislike neo-nazis.

Ford loops most CCS charging networks through their own charging app so you don’t have to download 18 apps to charge your car. They also have plug and charge which makes things super easy most of the time. Plus they factor chargers into the navigation–though most automakers do that now. I just wish they had real time data to know if the chargers are working, given shoddy uptime on CCS chargers. I have the plug share app and just take 30 seconds to verify first.

On top of that, they have a departure time feature where you can preheat the cabin and battery which helps with cold weather range loss

If I could afford one, I’d probably get a Lyriq. They’re just absolutely gorgeous and I’ve always liked GM’s EV efforts, having owned a Volt and Bolt

Balloondoggle
Balloondoggle
30 days ago

A dealership is absolutely the last-ditch place I would charge. You’re a sitting duck for the high pressure salesmen and there’s no way to get anything else done while you charge. I prefer locations like grocery stores where I can do my shopping while topping off, or restaurants, movie theatres, places like that. But mostly I charge at work for free and at home on the weekend.

Dinklesmith
Dinklesmith
30 days ago
Reply to  Balloondoggle

I had the same concerns but I was forced to charge at a dealership recently and the sales guys actually left me alone and were pretty chill. I think once they know you’re not buying a car, they don’t want to waste time on you. As a car guy, I enjoy checking out the display cars

Dr. Whiskey
Dr. Whiskey
30 days ago

Bought a Mach-E 2 months ago as my commuter car. No complaints so far. Love Blue Cruise.

Balloondoggle
Balloondoggle
30 days ago
Reply to  Dr. Whiskey

I drove and really liked the Mach-E when it first came out, except for 2 things: I don’t like the big touchscreen, and we drove it in the summer and the glass roof was excessively – almost painfully – hot to the touch on a sunny day. My son has issues with the use of the Mustang name, which I can understand even if I don’t really care about that part.

Dr. Whiskey
Dr. Whiskey
30 days ago
Reply to  Balloondoggle

I haven’t had it through a summer yet, but was wondering about the panoramic glass roof, too. Tons of reviews said it wasn’t an issue, though. But I figured if it is, I was OK with getting a shade to cover it anyways.
As far as the “Mustang” name goes; I don’t like it either. But I don’t think the name of a vehicle ranks very highly in my factors of whether or not to purchase one.
The screen is, unfortunately, kind of the standard nowadays though. I am used to it now. I thought I would miss physical controls, but realistically, I don’t need to change things like the temperature or anything that often.

Dinklesmith
Dinklesmith
30 days ago
Reply to  Balloondoggle

Ford sells a sun shade for the glass roof now. I’ve only owned mine during fall/winter months but I have it ready to go for summer

Fiji ST
Fiji ST
30 days ago
Reply to  Dinklesmith

I have a Mach-E with the glass roof. Get the sunshade.

Dinklesmith
Dinklesmith
30 days ago
Reply to  Dr. Whiskey

I also got mine 2 months ago. Best car I ever owned

BagoBoiling
BagoBoiling
30 days ago

Picked up a ZDX a few weeks ago for my wife’s commuter car. The lease deal was hard to pass on. It’s a big boat but does great on the highway and has a huge backseat for the kids. May really like the Google assistant as well. We plan on using up every one of the allotted 36K miles.

Kevin B Rhodes
Kevin B Rhodes
30 days ago

Forced to buy one? A ChangLi. Would be perfectly fine for everything I would care to use an EV for, and the user interface would not annoy the ever-loving shit out of me.

Timmy
Timmy
30 days ago

My wife purchased the Mach E. It is really fun to drive as we both love it two years later. For longer trips we’ve got a gasser to get us there but we’ve gone on ~500 mile trips.. Juicing up once in a trip isn’t bad as you just stop and get food then you’re already done.

Dinklesmith
Dinklesmith
30 days ago
Reply to  Timmy

I’ve been surprised with my Mach E’s road trip-ability. Charging hasn’t been anywhere near as bad as I thought it would be. Only once have I been disappointed with the speed and it was because it was super cold and I didn’t preheat the battery so I was throttled to 55kw.

BlueCruise makes road trips so much nicer

Boulevard_Yachtsman
Boulevard_Yachtsman
1 month ago

Forced? I would happily buy a Cadillac Celestiq if I had the means to comfortably do so.

Peter d
Peter d
1 month ago

If leasing counts I would lease a Lucid Air (or maybe an R1T – but I don’t think it will fit in my garage), if I had to buy, I would go David Tracy and get an i3 or, if new is a requirement, a Mustang Mach-e.

They had some very favorable leases going on the Rivian and the Lucids, although I have not checked lately to see if they are still going on. I am mostly down to low enough miles/year to lease, and my electricity costs would make most of these cars more expensive than filling even my low-mpg ICE car – although I have some empty racking on my home’s solar system, so maybe I could add some panels.

Strangek
Strangek
1 month ago

I guess I’d get a Lucid? They seem pretty dope and I deserve something nice! Failing that, the R1T still looks super cool to me.

TXJeepGuy
TXJeepGuy
1 month ago

Was supposed to be heading to NADA tonight, but I’ve had 3 flights canceled and now I’m getting there Friday. I looked at driving but with I-10 closed for miles around both sides of the city, I’m not sure thats the best idea either… tons of dealers attempting it to show they have grit though.

ClutchAbuse
ClutchAbuse
1 month ago

I leased an ID4 S last week. I’d been wanting to replace my KIA K5 and the deals for these were pretty good. The fact that my wife is German also pushed us towards VW. I would have considered any brand but Tesla.
As long as Elon is in charge they are an absolute no go for me.

I’m loving the car so far!

Last edited 1 month ago by ClutchAbuse
PresterJohn
PresterJohn
1 month ago

Gun to my head, must use own money, must buy (not lease) a new one: Probably going Prologue to get the tax credit.

Ben Novak
Ben Novak
1 month ago

Last year I leased a Hyundai Kona EV. The lease deals were especially good last winter/spring. Nice economical car with good cargo room and pretty decent range. And hopefully, Hyundai owners are getting access to that SuperCharger network this spring.

Oh, and thanks for “Oh, Streetcar!”. I needed to laugh today.

MDMK
MDMK
1 month ago

Since the available section of non-luxury BEVs are either CUV capsules or have minimalist interiors designed by IKEA, I guess I’ll keep waiting for the mythical electric Camry or Sonata to show up. Else, if the Ioniq6 had 2-3 more cubic feet of trunk space, it would seriously consider it.

Squirrelmaster
Squirrelmaster
1 month ago

I’d like to buy an R1S, but it isn’t in my budget. What I would probably end up with is a used Mach E or, if my wife is the deciding vote, a used Prologue (which I honestly didn’t mind when I sat in it at the local Honda dealer). I don’t have strong opinions about most of the other EVs out there, aside from Teslas which have never been on my interest list because I hate everything about their interiors and am underwhelmed with their exterior design.

Der Foo
Der Foo
1 month ago

Volvo EX30 or that Honda Chevy.

Actually thinking about an EV lease. Most of my drives are the 5 to 10 mile range, round trip. Not sure I could get any of the sweet lease deals on the vehicles I want though.

William Domer
William Domer
30 days ago
Reply to  Der Foo

Fiat 500e? I mean who needs to go 400 miles in an electric when the extra batteries weigh as much as my 94 Del Sol?

Der Foo
Der Foo
30 days ago
Reply to  William Domer

The Fiat 500e did get a consideration, but a big part of my chauffeur duties involve getting 2 to three high schoolers to and from, with their band instruments.

The 500e could be a hoot though assuming it has some pep.

Last edited 30 days ago by Der Foo
William Domer
William Domer
29 days ago
Reply to  Der Foo

And 3 teenagers would probably not fit, especially if the rear seta ones had legs

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