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Ford Is Seeking A Patent On Eavesdropping On Your Conversations So They Can Show You Ads On Your Dash Like Nobody Freaking Wants

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This is the future, huh? This bullshit? No jetpacks or pills that pop into 16-inch pizzas when subjected to a drop of water, just brand-new cars that listen to our conversations and then try to show us ads for endless breadsticks and boner pills right there on the mothertrusting dashboard. Who wanted this? How did we end up here? What went so wrong that we’re employing staggering computing power to sneakily butt into private conversations with un-asked for advice? Ugh. Whatever went wrong, Ford seems to be embracing it, at least if we are to believe this patent application submitted by Ford on August 29, 2024.

The patent is for “IN-VEHICLE ADVERTISEMENT PRESENTATION SYSTEMS AND METHODS,” and that string of words alone shouldn’t exist in a civilized society, ideally. Here’s what the patent application’s abstract says about the plan:

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 “In-vehicle advertisement presentation systems and methods are disclosed herein. An example method includes determining vehicle information for a trip, the vehicle information including any one or more of a current vehicle location, a vehicle speed, a drive mode, and/or traffic information, determining user information, the user information including any one or more of a route prediction for the trip, a speed prediction for the trip, and/or a destination, determining user preferences for advertisements from any one or more of audio signals within the vehicle and/or historical user data, selecting a number of the advertisements to present to the user during the trip, and providing the advertisements to the user during the trip through a human-machine interface (HMI) of the vehicle.”
So, basically, the car will be looking at the current speed, the route and destination – which can be compared to pre-recorded route data – and the “audio signals” within the vehicle (conversations), which are then used to select advertisements that will be displayed, if this illustration is to be believed, on the center stack screen of a 2013-ish Ford Focus dashboard.
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Here’s a whole flow chart about the various factors that go into the process of picking just the right ad to carefully –utilizing every possible benefit of modern data science – shove down your unwilling throat:
Patent 2
So, I suppose it’s good that they’re using speed and route to determine just how many ads they can lob at you without overloading your brains, because I have to believe safety factors in here somewhere, if only because a living human tends to spend a lot more money than a dead one.
Still, if all of this doesn’t cause some deep-soul revulsion from inside the very core of your being, then I don’t know whether to pity how effectively the system has destroyed your resolve or to admire how you’ve adapted to this dystopia of our own making. Neither option is great.
Such systems and methods provide maximum opportunity for ad-based monetization,” the application says at one point, something I’ve never, ever wanted to hear in the context of the interior of a car. Ever.
Encouragingly, Ford at the very least seems sheepish about this whole revolting business, telling The Record via a spokesperson:

“Submitting patent applications is a normal part of any strong business as the process protects new ideas and helps us build a robust portfolio of intellectual property.

“The ideas described within a patent application should not be viewed as an indication of our business or product plans. [Ford] will always put the customer first in the decision-making behind the development and marketing of new products and services.”

I sure as hell hope that’s true. I mean, they’re right, of course, just because a company submits a patent application on an idea or concept does not necessarily mean that concept or idea will end up in a future vehicle. It could just be the automotive equivalent of horror fantasy writing, where Ford engineers challenge one another to come up with vehicle ideas for the most dystopian future imaginable, one where you’re trapped in a car with a nosy, annoying AI that listens carefully to all your private conversations and loudly tells you about what restaurants you should go to or suddenly plays TJ Maxx ads on your car’s dash at volume levels high enough to make you pee your pants, just a tiny bit.
How else do you explain such perverse usages of “optimistic” and “pessimistic” like shown in this chart?
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Pessimistic means less ads? I want nothing to do with this world.
Look, I get that maybe Ford has no intention of implementing this. Fine. But I still don’t like that it’s even being thought about. I get that companies are around to make money, and they’ll explore every possible avenue available to them. I get it. But at the same time, this also effectively disintegrates any tiny amount of desire I may have had for a new car. I’d so much rather keep repairing and maintaining my old shitboxes if it means I’ll never have to be subjected to my car listening in on my conversations and flinging filthy ads at me. That would make me want to drive into a lake.
Fuck that. Fuck all of this, vigorously and dementedly.
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Viking Longcar
Viking Longcar
1 month ago

So when someone driving a car with this system runs into my car, how much can I sue Ford for?

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
1 month ago
Reply to  Viking Longcar

Nothing. All evidence will be erased and the driver gaslighted.

Cranberry
Cranberry
1 month ago
Reply to  Cheap Bastard

It will pull a Tesla and stop right before the moment of impact.

Autopizen
Autopizen
1 month ago

OMDB. It would have to be the last vehicle on earth. And it would take me 5 minutes to pull the fuse/wiring/PC board for this late-stage-capitalism nightmare feature.

That’s IF I can neither (a) keep my old school vehicles running, NOR (b) find a single old POS, nor (c) new vehicle sans these electronic nightmares.

Cerberus
Cerberus
1 month ago

This is the real reason they’re putting all the controls on the touchscreen—so one can’t just replace it with an aftermarket HU to get rid of this crap.

Parsko
Parsko
1 month ago

I would assume they would have a porn filter on the ads, in which case I would get no ads.

Ramaswamy Narayanaswamy
Ramaswamy Narayanaswamy
1 month ago
Reply to  Parsko

So what is next ? Taking away someone’s truck by driving it back to the dealership in the future, needlessly monitoring these cars… and NOW useless ADs? Next thing Farley will go a little further and try to introduce the option of “illegal” content…and at that point I will TAKE his ENTIRE stock to court.

Church
Church
1 month ago

Well, they were looking for additional revenue streams. Selling ads is one, apparently? I honestly have never once seen an ad on TV or the internet or heard one on the radio that caused me to change my behavior in a way that felt like a good spend on the company’s part. I don’t understand the math, but everyone does it, so I guess it must work.

Cerberus
Cerberus
1 month ago
Reply to  Church

Can’t recall a time an ad got me to buy, but plenty of them that have pissed me off to the point where that company is on my do-not-buy-from list. It’s a long list. And people ask me why I’m always building my own shit!

Hondaimpbmw 12
Hondaimpbmw 12
1 month ago
Reply to  Cerberus

I’m of an age where I may have bought my last cars. I can say that at the price of new cars, it may be cost effective to buy a Dynacorn body and turn it into an actual car; w/o all the electronic crap.

AlterId
AlterId
1 month ago

I for one look forward to a day when my car can serve up online coupons and reviews for physical therapists, attorneys and (if things go very badly) funeral homes for my next-of-kin should I run my car into a tree or concrete abutment. Which is a lot more likely in this scenario.

It’s the Ford Futura – the future with an “A” for advertising!

Beached Wail
Beached Wail
1 month ago

This has been a vehicle telematics wet dream for at least 25 years. The difference here is added eavesdropping capability.

Driver: “*Yawns*”

Telematics: “Hey Driver, there are 26 Starbucks within 5 minutes at your current speed and direction. I’ve added a mandatory GPS waypoint to the nearest one. And here’s a 50¢ coupon for the purchase you’d better make if you ever want to use your seat heaters again. Have a blessed day and don’t forget to manifest abundance! P.S. If you keep driving with your hands at 5 and 7 o’clock, I swear I’ll take control and turn this car around, and I can do it!”

RCAddiction
RCAddiction
1 month ago

Ford is simply trying to drive the prices of used cars back up again. Once this comes out, who in their right mind would want to buy a new car that’s basically an invasive rolling TV with ads?….oh…yeah…’Murica.

Last edited 1 month ago by RCAddiction
Ramaswamy Narayanaswamy
Ramaswamy Narayanaswamy
1 month ago
Reply to  RCAddiction

I would buy a K2XX truck instead…..

Gene1969
Gene1969
1 month ago

I blame the Ferengi for this.

Chris Hoffpauir
Chris Hoffpauir
1 month ago
Reply to  Gene1969

Rules of Acquistion #2 and #10 definitely seem to be in play.

  • Rule #2: The best deal is the one that brings the most profit.
  • Rule #10: Greed is eternal.

Of course, are any of the Rules ever really out of play?

Gene1969
Gene1969
1 month ago

Have family beta test the system because exploitation begins at home.

Chris Hoffpauir
Chris Hoffpauir
1 month ago

Ford’s idea, which I’m sure will be copied by every other auto manufacturer, definitely gives me pause. This is more than just an annoying distraction that nobody needs while they’re driving. Mining in-car conversation for ad data is a full-on invasion of privacy.

Hondaimpbmw 12
Hondaimpbmw 12
1 month ago

If ever there were a use case for NHSTA or federal government interference in commerce, this surely would be a prime example. Or perhaps the FMVSS. It’s already annoying that mfgrs want a subscription for things beyond satellite radio.

Chris Hoffpauir
Chris Hoffpauir
1 month ago

I’m pretty sure leagues of personal injury and product liability attorneys are already coming up with strategies on this one.

Chally_Sheedy
Chally_Sheedy
1 month ago
The NSX Was Only in Development for 4 Years
The NSX Was Only in Development for 4 Years
1 month ago

The hope for this, I’m sure, is that they roll it out as quietly as possible and hope people just one day sort of notice that their Exploder is showing them ads for Starbucks now. That’s how it’ll become the norm across the industry. Kind of like how Meta snuck in the algorithm crap and now all social media is borked forever.

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
1 month ago

If they do this, Ford execs will never be able to use a phone, computer, or smart TV again. And God help them if they live in smart houses. The revolution starts here!

Rollin Hand
Rollin Hand
1 month ago

The only answer is to force your Ford to show you Chevy ads.

Taargus Taargus
Taargus Taargus
1 month ago
Reply to  Rollin Hand

Oh God that can’t be the answer. I’d careen right into a telephone pole.

Michael Beranek
Michael Beranek
1 month ago

Absolute bloody garbage. Can you imagine the Little America ads if you drive anywhere near Wyoming? Or the inundation of Gruber Law ads the moment you cross the Cheddar Curtain? Not to mention the strip clubs in Indiana…

Rad Barchetta
Rad Barchetta
1 month ago

Not to mention the strip clubs in Indiana…

Oof. Talk about distracted driving…

Dodsworth
Dodsworth
1 month ago

Not only Ford, but any company that would dare advertise on such a platform should also be boycotted. This is a friendly warning shot across the bow.

Angel "the Cobra" Martin
Angel "the Cobra" Martin
1 month ago

While I hate this entire model, I’m kinda digging the car on the header.

Ford_Timelord
Ford_Timelord
1 month ago

Its the 021C by Marc Newson for Ford back in 1999. Its a great peice of design including the rear trunk that is a giant drawer.

Twobox Designgineer
Twobox Designgineer
1 month ago

Insanity.

And thanks for reminding me that in addition to doing the procedure noted in the previous post about how to disallow data sharing for each brand, I also should look up whether I can disconnect the antenna that sends data in my vehicle without losing my radio. I’m pretty sure I can since I have an antenna on the fender and I’m told there’s a separate one in the roll cage for the OTAs and such.

MrLM002
MrLM002
1 month ago

I hope they get sued out the ass for this.

If they actually achieve their goal and are able to draw your attention then they will have increased distracted driving in order to monetize it.

Sounds like an easy to win lawsuit as far as lawsuits against major corporations are concerned.

Bob Boxbody
Bob Boxbody
1 month ago
Reply to  MrLM002

You can’t really sue someone over a patent application.

Church
Church
1 month ago
Reply to  Bob Boxbody

Unless you patented it first. But yeah, nothing to sue over here. It’s stupid, but not LEGALLY stupid.

MrLM002
MrLM002
1 month ago
Reply to  Church

If they implement it it is….

MrLM002
MrLM002
1 month ago
Reply to  Bob Boxbody

If they implement it….

Arch Duke Maxyenko
Arch Duke Maxyenko
1 month ago

Now it’s 2024
Knock knock at your front door,
It’s the suede denim secret police
And the have ads for your TikTok niece!

Ford_Timelord
Ford_Timelord
1 month ago

Thank you for this. updated lyrics to Gen X bangers was one of my favourite parts of the old site.

Arch Duke Maxyenko
Arch Duke Maxyenko
1 month ago
Reply to  Ford_Timelord

It is my duty and honor to provide

Ferguson, Turd
Ferguson, Turd
1 month ago

I started singing this as the song from Three’s Company before realizing what it actually is. Never would have thought I’d get those two songs confused.

Ramaswamy Narayanaswamy
Ramaswamy Narayanaswamy
1 month ago

The worst part is that Generation Z, Alpha, Beta, Gamma children and adolescents will be watching these STUPID ADs in their cars and getting distracted…plus creating many accidents (the Mustang is basically a Generation Z car…and is marketed as such)…and I worry the day when Farley will introduce ILLEGAL content..which it should hopefully not come to.

Good thing here in Qatar…certain things are prohibited. So there is that.

Last edited 1 month ago by Ramaswamy Narayanaswamy
Timbales
Timbales
1 month ago

:has loud conversation while driving about how much this Ford sucks and wishes I could see what offers are available from other makers:

Rick Garcia
Rick Garcia
1 month ago

Crazy idea. Maybe there efforts would be better spent not leading the industry in recalls.

Church
Church
1 month ago
Reply to  Rick Garcia

Whoa, whoa, whoa. That sounds hard. Selling ads sounds easy. Given that the goal is short term profit, let’s do the easy thing.

Rad Barchetta
Rad Barchetta
1 month ago

Not gonna lie. I would put my fist through the screen if my car started showing me ads. I don’t care if I could never open the glove box again.

Rick Garcia
Rick Garcia
1 month ago
Reply to  Rad Barchetta

That’s the first thing I thought of too.

Usernametaken
Usernametaken
1 month ago
Reply to  Rad Barchetta

I was thinking more of the news headlines

…”was pulled over after repeatedly discharging a firearm into the dashboard of the car”…

Rad Barchetta
Rad Barchetta
1 month ago
Reply to  Usernametaken

LOL

Michael Beranek
Michael Beranek
1 month ago
Reply to  Rad Barchetta

I was thinking drive it into a ditch, throw a grenade inside, and do a slow-motion-walk-away-from-explosion-like-you-just-don’t-care Hollywood move.

Mike Smith
Mike Smith
1 month ago

Cool guys don’t look at explosions!

Querty
Querty
1 month ago

We are not far from a time in which no new car is buyable

Last edited 1 month ago by Querty
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