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Fugitive CEO Carlos Ghosn Ordered To Give His Superyacht Back To Nissan, Is Definitely Not Going To

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I was all excited this morning to start today’s Morning Dump with a discussion of the two approaches large automakers are taking to China, and I’ll get to that, but my favorite story of the morning is Nissan’s ongoing quest to try to get ex-CEO Carlos Ghosn to give back the superyacht he allegedly bought with misappropriated funds. Good luck, babe!

Ok, China. Let’s talk about China. People love talking about China. There’s an interesting contrast between the Stellantis approach and the Ford approach, and I think it’s worth discussing where each of these major automakers is going. And while we’re talking about the directionality of automakers it’s probably not a bad time to review the latest forecast for where the automotive market here in the United States will end up this year.

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Let’s bring it all home and end on a high note. Did you know that International rebranded to Navistar for some nonsense reason? They did. It sucked. Now Navistar is righting a historical wrong.

Carlos Ghosn Has A Yacht He Can’t Take Anywhere

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Source: Superyachts.com

We’re coming up on the sixth anniversary of Carlos Ghosn’s surprise arrest in Tokyo. At the time, Ghosn was head of the Nissan Mitsubishi Renault Alliance and was considered to be the business genius who somehow kept these companies together. That changed rapidly as Ghosn was shut in a small room in a Japanese prison and accused of using front-companies and sweetheart deals with a distributor in the Middle East to shove money into his own shell companies.

Eventually, Ghosn would flee the country in a daring escape that involved him getting ferreted out in a crate. Ghosn, who has Lebanese citizenship and is a hero in the country, retreated to his Beirut mansion (also paid for by Nissan) and has been stuck there. Why? In addition to a request by Japan to extradite him, the French have also put an Interpol “red notice” on him for allegedly defrauding Renault.

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Why? One theory is that Ghosn was merely a successful and underpaid leader who was a little creative in trying to get paid, and the real cause of his detention was a concern by Nissan insiders that the exec was going to make the Japanese automaker permanently subservient to its French “partner.” Another theory is that Ghosn knowingly and brazenly perpetrated a multi-year fraudulent campaign to get money out of his companies. All of those things can be true at the same.

That hasn’t stopped Nissan from trying to seize as many assets from Ghosn as possible and to try to hold him accountable, typically in absentia. One of the larger items they want is the Superyacht that was once called Shachou (Japanese for “the boss”) and has since been rebranded “Twig.”

From Automotive News:

Nissan won the first round in its long-brewing boat battle with former chairman Carlos Ghosn about who rightfully owns the indicted fugitive’s superyacht, with a court ruling Ghosn illicitly siphoned millions from the carmaker to buy the 121-foot pleasure cruiser.

Ghosn was ordered to give up the vessel to Nissan Motor Co., while he, his wife and a company they created as a vehicle to purchase the yacht were ordered to pay $32 million in damages, according to the ruling by the British Virgin Islands High Court.

As far as superyachts go this one is almost restrained. Just five bedrooms? No helicopter pad? The yacht itself is owned by Beauty Yachts Pty LTD, a California shell company, which is also owned by Ghosn’s son. Is he giving it back?

It doesn’t sound like it:

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“It is in the Court’s respectful judgment clear as a matter of fact that the sums paid away from Nissan/NME [Nissan Middle East] were for purposes other than the proper purposes of Nissan or NME; and the payments to Mr. Ghosn, Beauty Yachts and Shogun were made in order to benefit Mr. Ghosn or his nominees,” High Court Judge Gerhard Wallbank wrote in the 56-page judgment.

Ghosn, 70, who denies any wrongdoing, told Automotive News he was “obviously appealing” the decision. Neither he nor his wife attended the trial or were represented there.

Af current (as of the time of this writing) New York City Mayor Eric Adams famously said: “May your haters be your waiters when you sit down at the superyacht of your success.”

So where, exactly, is the yacht? Can’t the police just seize it as they’ve done with many yachts owned by Russian oligarchs? It’s not that simple. According to MarineTraffic.com the yacht is moored in a popular marina on the north end of Beirut.

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Screenshot: MarineTraffic.com

If the yacht ended up in Nice, France, I’d assume the local authorities would probably take possession of the vessel. Until then, it’s likely staying put and it’s hard to imagine the Lebanese government turning over either Ghosn or any of his stuff at this point. Not to mention that Lebanon is, as you may have heard, on the verge of war with Israel, which is another complication.

Having a yacht that he can’t take anywhere is pretty indicative of Ghosn’s current position, which is safe-ish but also he can’t do anything or go anywhere. As Radio France reported, this is a small kind of torture for the former world-trotting business leader:

Carlos Ghosn’s main problem is not money but boredom. “He has traveled all his life around the planet. He is used to meeting people, working, having responsibilities, power and he finds himself with almost nothing to do, in a country 80 kilometers wide and 200 long, in which he has not lived since his childhood… His problem is being stuck here, in Lebanon.”

It’s tough out there for CEO’s named Carlos.

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Carlos Tavares: Let’s “Try To Be Chinese Ourselves”

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Source: SNL

Ford and Stellantis have two very different approaches to the problem of China and its ability to produce huge numbers of cheap, reasonably nice electric cars. For Stellantis, it’s “If you can’t beat them, buy them and replicate them.”

From Reuters:

The best way to compete is instead to “try to be Chinese ourselves,” Tavares said at a Reuters Events conference in Munich in May. That belief led Stellantis to purchase a 21% stake in China EV maker Leapmotor last October, creating a joint venture giving Stellantis access to Leapmotor technology and exclusive rights to produce its EVs outside of China.

The challenges faced by Stellantis in the EU and the U.S. are no different than those confronting all automakers as they seek to compete with the Chinese globally. However, Stellantis and a handful of others have taken it a step further, establishing partnerships with Chinese automakers in order to stay competitive.

This seems to be a sensible plan and I think Leapmotor has a real chance at succeeding in Europe, with or without tariffs (which Carlos Tavares, pictured above, calls a “trap”). Unlike the Germans, who were largely caught with their schnitzels out, Tavares appears like the cold realist here. Automakers like Volkswagen have to worry about local governments, but Stellantis has so many local governments to worry about that maybe it doesn’t matter anymore.

Ford’s approach is more “If you can’t join them, beat them.” Ford’s been trying to build a battery plant here in America backed by technology from CATL, the world’s biggest battery maker, but so far the initiative has yielded no batteries and a lot of ill will from Republican lawmakers. This is at the root of Ford’s skunkworks plan to build cheap EVs on its own.

Which approach will win out? I’m not sure, but if Ford can actually deliver a cheap EV I think that’ll ultimately work better in the United States. I think the Stellantis approach might work better for Europe.

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Cox Forecasts Sales Of 15.7 Million This Year

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I said last December that I thought 2024 could be a huge year for car sales, breaking the 16-million car mark for the first time in a number of years. It looks like it’ll just be a fine year for car sales, as Cox Automotive is projecting a total of 15.7 million new sales for 2024, compared to the 15.5 million sales last year.

What happened? Early in the year, we got that small inflation scare and the expected summer rate cut didn’t happen until this month. With interest rates too high it just wasn’t meant to be. This doesn’t mean that the market can’t turn around and do better, and it’s possible that a calming of geopolitical risk in the Middle East and the resolution of uncertainty around the election might push more people into dealerships, but making up 300,000k cars seems unlikely.

Not great, not terrible.

Navistar Becomes International Again

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Navistar announces rebrand and name change to International

International is a great brand. First, there’s just the name. The name is great. International! When I think of International I think of happy Scouts and big, brawny trucks. But Traton SE, the Volkswagen-owned truck subsidiary, thought it would be better to stick with the Navistar name as the overarching brand.

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Wack.

From the truckmaker:

“After more than 120 years, we are choosing to return to our roots as International,” said Tobias Glitterstam, chief strategy and transformation officer. “International embodies determination, partnership, and collaboration in meeting every challenge with a solution. Our new name and look complement the strategic changes we are making to offer enhanced customer experiences.”

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The diamond logo is excellent. Good work Navist… International Motors.

What I’m Listening To While Writing TMD Today

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A little Cristopher Cross this morning, because it’s time to go “sailing.”

The Big Question

What would you do with Carlos Ghosn’s yacht?

Top image credit: Depositphotos.com

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Ramblin' Gamblin' Man
Ramblin' Gamblin' Man
1 month ago

I highly recommend this book if you want to know the REAL Carlos Ghosn!

It was a real page turner for me!

Boundless: The Rise, Fall, and Escape of Carlos Ghosn Hardcover – August 9, 2022 by Nick Kostov (Author), Sean McLain (Author)

Dogisbadob
Dogisbadob
1 month ago

Carlos Ghosn is still better than Carlos Tavares LOL

JDE
JDE
1 month ago
Reply to  Dogisbadob

that is a tough call. Either you have a bunch of cars with shitty CVT’s or only a few cars whatsoever.

Rollin Hand
Rollin Hand
1 month ago
Reply to  JDE

Either you have a bunch of cars with shitty CVTs, or you have only a few cars with shitty qua-li-tees.

FIFY.

JDE
JDE
1 month ago
Reply to  Rollin Hand

Unfortunately the CVT in the Nissans kind of overshadow the quality of the rest of the Nissan cars. Their was a reason why Altima’s were considered hood rat cars like the Cutlasses before them. they were bought in volume by middle management types and many somehow survived college hand me down status and proliferated on the BHPH lots. after the CVT, they were usually scrapped before the hand me down stage.

Rollin Hand
Rollin Hand
1 month ago
Reply to  JDE

When I was last looking at cars, the Altima was on my list. Through the CVT and the surprisingly meh engine, they had taken all of the fun out of it.

Marteau
Marteau
1 month ago
Reply to  Dogisbadob

You know Carlos tavares was the number 2 of carlos ghosn, right ?

Dogisbadob
Dogisbadob
1 month ago
Reply to  Marteau

yeah but apparently he didn’t actually learn the good parts tho

At least Nissans are decent cars, unlike any Chrysler/Fiat/Stellantis shit LOL

Yeah Nissan had some CVT issues, but almost every CVT sucked at the time.

Michael Beranek
Michael Beranek
1 month ago

If I was Carlos, I’d be worried about an Israeli, Hamas, or Hezbollah rocket accidentally landing on his yacht. Not exactly the safest place right now.

SaabaruDude
SaabaruDude
1 month ago

Go pirate hunting off the coast of Somalia?

Musicman27
Musicman27
1 month ago
Reply to  SaabaruDude

That would make an awesome movie.

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
1 month ago

“What would you do with Carlos Ghosn’s yacht?”

Convert it to steam power and roll ALL the coal!!

StillNotATony
StillNotATony
1 month ago

What would I do with Carlos Ghosn’s yacht?

Two and 1/3 words: https://youtu.be/xUsOJrw5PJE?si=yArqyQKRvn3Qro0k

Phyrkrakr
Phyrkrakr
1 month ago
Reply to  StillNotATony

That’s good, but I like this one better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avaSdC0QOUM

3WiperB
3WiperB
1 month ago

If it’s unrecoverable, by definition that would make this yacht a sunk cost.

Michael Beranek
Michael Beranek
1 month ago
Reply to  3WiperB

I’m not sure this one holds water

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
1 month ago
Reply to  3WiperB

If it was financed a couple of years ago, it’s definitely under water, now.

Lincoln Clown CaR
Lincoln Clown CaR
1 month ago

Nissan Mitsubishi Renault Alliance

I see what you did there. Encore!

Michael Beranek
Michael Beranek
1 month ago

Premiere comment, you get a Medallion!

Lincoln Clown CaR
Lincoln Clown CaR
1 month ago

I’m en Fuego today.

Michael Beranek
Michael Beranek
1 month ago

We really need to form a comedy Alliance. But you have to be 21 to join.

Andy Individual
Andy Individual
1 month ago

LePun

Pisco Sour
Pisco Sour
1 month ago

Five…stars!

3WiperB
3WiperB
1 month ago

I sometimes wonder if the running gag here has made it’s way to the attention of a certain actor/comedian and former SNL star. How awesome and confusing would that be?

Rob Schneider
Rob Schneider
1 month ago
Reply to  3WiperB

I’m kind of partial to the using of a different former SNL cast member’s photo for the head of Jeep, but maybe that’s just me.

Er, not me.

Now I’m confused.

Chronometric
Chronometric
1 month ago
Reply to  Rob Schneider

Or possibly the head of another cast’s member?

Rob Schneider
Rob Schneider
1 month ago
Reply to  Chronometric

Uh, Andy Dick? No, he was never a cast member on SNL.

I think I’m close, but it’s just not coming.

Last edited 1 month ago by Rob Schneider
Rollin Hand
Rollin Hand
1 month ago
Reply to  3WiperB

Yeah, that’s it. That’s the ticket.

Chronometric
Chronometric
1 month ago
Reply to  Rollin Hand

I heard that Tavares is married to Morgan Fairchild.

ShinyMetalAsp
ShinyMetalAsp
1 month ago

Ghosn can trade down for a smaller boat. He’s previously travelled by cello case.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/dec/31/carlos-ghosn-escaped-japan-hiding-in-a-musical-instrument-case

Sid Bridge
Sid Bridge
1 month ago

Geez. What kind of world are we living in where a corrupt CEO can’t even defraud a company out of millions of dollars, avoid extradition and enjoy caviar on his private yacht while remaining unmolested by the various peons he so artfully evaded and showing his trophy wife with the jewelry she has become terminally accustomed to. Oh how we miss that days when you could count on the peaceful serenity of the confines of Lebanon!

Kant Smathers
Kant Smathers
1 month ago

It’s a pretty nice yacht, not anywhere near one of the “top dogs”, but unless he commissioned it, it’s probably in the $5mill-$7mill range. More specs if you are curious…
https://www.superyachttimes.com/yachts/twig

Also, since the bell came back, does anyone else’s bluetooth get disconnected on the site? It’s only on this site for me and nowhere else.

IRegertNothing, Esq.
IRegertNothing, Esq.
1 month ago

The full name of Ghosn’s yacht is This Was Illegitimately Gained, but they call it TWIG for short.

Lockleaf
Lockleaf
1 month ago

Maybe Nissan should hire some goons to get IN to Beirut and on to Ghosn’s yacht in shipping containers. Then steal it.

Last edited 1 month ago by Lockleaf
Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
1 month ago
Reply to  Lockleaf

Preferably to an 80’s punk soundtrack featuring Suicidal Tendencies and Iggy Pop.

Michael Beranek
Michael Beranek
1 month ago
Reply to  Lockleaf

OK, I’m starting the screenplay right now, I’ll give you co-creator credit.

Frank Wrench
Frank Wrench
1 month ago

Nah, let’s go get sushi and not pay

Rollin Hand
Rollin Hand
1 month ago
Reply to  Lockleaf

Carlos Ghosn: “Hey, where did all these cello cases come from?”

Commandos: (burst out of cello cases) BOOYA!

Alexk98
Alexk98
1 month ago

Once this whole Ghosn saga is finally done, and the history is established, Hollywood should make a flashy, dramatized movie about it. Rowan Atkinson as Carlos (Ghosn, not pictured above), the heist approximately 48 Million Dollars, His boat can be rebranded again to Eleanor, and the title, of course, “Ghosn in 60 Seconds”

Lokki
Lokki
1 month ago
Reply to  Alexk98

Take your damn upvote.

RataTejas
RataTejas
1 month ago

I’m sure Nissan can make some accommodating payments and a donation of some trucks to the IDF to take care of the problem. The yacht, not Ghosn.

SaabaruDude
SaabaruDude
1 month ago
Reply to  RataTejas

why not both?

Ranwhenparked
Ranwhenparked
1 month ago
Reply to  RataTejas

They need to make sure the title situation is all squared away and that they’ve got a solid insurance policy on it first, if there’s one that includes war-related damage, most don’t

Arch Duke Maxyenko
Arch Duke Maxyenko
1 month ago

I also see this as an appropriate song for Goshn’s situation.

Angel "the Cobra" Martin
Angel "the Cobra" Martin
1 month ago

I was at a millennium party that had Cristopher Cross.

Vic Vinegar
Vic Vinegar
1 month ago

New CEO of Stellantis: Carlos Goshn!

Michael Beranek
Michael Beranek
1 month ago
Reply to  Vic Vinegar

As a lifelong, fourth-generation Mopar fan, I’m horribly scared that this absolutely ridiculous idea might actually come true because Chrysler.

SNL-LOL Jr
SNL-LOL Jr
1 month ago

Ghosn was given das boot. Let him keep das boot.

Captain Muppet
Captain Muppet
1 month ago

What would I do with his yacht? Winter in the south of France with trips along to coast to Italy whenever I even think about going home. Then, and the end of winter, sell it and retire.

What would I do if I were Carlos? Probably just whine about being trapped in a tiny country while not acknowledging for a second all those obviously illegal things I’d done to make it happen.

Steve P
Steve P
1 month ago
Reply to  Captain Muppet

What would I do with his yacht? Two chicks at the same time, man!

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
1 month ago
Reply to  Steve P

Only two?

Turd Ferguson
Turd Ferguson
1 month ago
Reply to  Steve P

Always love an Office Space reference!

Ranwhenparked
Ranwhenparked
1 month ago

Considering Ghosn might be about to be evicted from his house in Beirut, I’d say he ought to try and hold onto the yacht as long as possible, even if it can’t go anywhere, because he might need to live on it

Last edited 1 month ago by Ranwhenparked
MrLM002
MrLM002
1 month ago
Reply to  Ranwhenparked

This. While a large Yacht is a bit too much IMHO if you’re a very wealthy person that many Governments don’t like a long range seafaring vessel is probably your best bet for transport.

Andy Individual
Andy Individual
1 month ago
Reply to  MrLM002

He should use it to sneak back into Japan. They’ll never think to look for him there.

MaximillianMeen
MaximillianMeen
1 month ago

What Ghosn is listening to while reading TMD:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VsV5L2RhvI

Drive By Commenter
Drive By Commenter
1 month ago

I’d sell it and get something actually accessible for recreation, like a Taiga or Candela. Then buy a marina to guarantee they’ll be charged and ready when I want out on the water.

It would be a crying shame if the IDFAF hit that boat with a 250 lb bomb. Just saying.

Automotiveflux
Automotiveflux
1 month ago

Sell it to a Russian oligarch who misses theirs on the yacht black market

Michael Beranek
Michael Beranek
1 month ago
Reply to  Automotiveflux

Maybe Kadyrov would exchange amnesty for the yacht… he could park his machine-gun Cyber Trucks on it.

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