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Gotta Give Them Points For Trying: 1983 Chrysler E-Class vs 1992 Mercury Topaz

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Good morning! Today we’re looking at a couple of “fancy” versions of ordinary cars, nearly a decade apart in age, but very close in ideology, and that ideology is that you can have nice things, as long as you don’t expect them to be exciting as well. Grab a cup of coffee; you’ll need it to stay awake looking at these two.

Yesterday’s high-mileage battle ended with a win for the Mazda 3, though quite a few of you expressed a desire for a “Both” option. Many of you were concerned with the possibility of rust on both of them, but cars on the West Coast just don’t have that problem.

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Don’t believe me? Check it out: That’s a photo of the left rear cab mount/cab corner/rocker panel of my own ’89 Chevy truck, a thirty-five-year-old ex-government fleet truck that spent its service life in eastern Washington state before retiring to Portland, without a lick of rust. It just isn’t an issue.

Oh, and speaking of which, my vote is for the Tundra. I like the flames, and the overall scruffiness of it. It’s one of the few trucks I’ve found that would make a suitable replacement for my Chevy, should anything ever happen to it.

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Now then: American cars of the 1980s just weren’t very exciting, and I say that as someone who is terribly fond of them. It’s just hard to drum up enthusiasm for some ninety-horsepower sedan with an automatic. But, if equipped correctly, they can be quite nice cars – not flashy, not putting on airs like the Lincoln Versailles or the Cadillac Cimarron, just nice. Comfortable seats, good air conditioning, and a smooth, quiet ride can make up for a sixteen-second 0-60 time, with the right attitude. Not everything has to be hardcore all the time. Sometimes a little Christopher Cross is just the ticket. So instead of thinking of these cars as “lame” or “slow,” think of them as the automotive equivalent of yacht rock. Here they are.

1983 Chrysler E-Class – $3,000

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Engine/drivetrain: 2.2-liter overhead cam inline 4, three-speed automatic, FWD

Location: Everett, WA

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Odometer reading: 126,000 miles

Operational status: Runs and drives great

You have to hand it to Chrysler; they got a lot of mileage out of the K platform. Starting with one basic front-wheel-drive formula, the struggling automaker managed to put family sedans, station wagons, luxury coupes and sedans, and even sports coupes into showrooms, not to mention something that came to be known as a minivan. And right in the middle of the range was the Chrysler E-Class, a short-lived variant of the E platform, a K-car with a longer wheelbase.

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Unusually for an E-Class, this car is powered by Chrysler’s own 2.2 liter four-cylinder engine instead of the optional Mitsubishi-supplied 2.6 liter that ended up in many cars in the early years. Even more unusually for an upscale model, it does not appear to be equipped with air conditioning. I can’t imagine ordering a car like this and not checking that box on the form, but somebody was trying to save a few bucks, I suppose. It runs and drives beautifully, the seller says, and has a new timing belt, alternator, and voltage regulator.

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It may lack air conditioning, but it does have another well-known Chrysler option of the era: the Electronic Message Center. Yes, the talking thing. The ’83 Dodge 600 we had when I was young had this option, and it was amusing for the first month or two, but got a bit annoying after that. My mom got in the habit of fastening her seat belt before starting the car, so it wouldn’t tell her to do so. My ’84 Chrysler Laser had it too, but that car had a lot of weird electrical gremlins, so the Message Center would spit out random dire warnings now and again. I think there’s a reason why this gimmick never caught on.

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It’s in remarkably good shape, with shiny paint, including the four body-matching hubcaps, a blatant ripoff of Mercedes-Benz. Comparing cars to Mercedes was all the rage for a while; Ford famously designed an entire advertising campaign around comparing its Granada to a Mercedes W116 S-Class. I doubt either ruse actually persuaded any buyers.

1992 Mercury Topaz GS – $1,800

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Engine/drivetrain: 2.3-liter overhead valve inline 4, three-speed automatic, FWD

Location: Colorado Springs, CO

Odometer reading: 55,000 miles

Operational status: Runs and drives well, but needs exercise

Ford was the last of the Big Three to embrace front-wheel-drive; the imported Fiesta subcompact had been available since 1976, but it wasn’t until 1981 that a home-grown FWD Ford appeared in the form of the Escort, which replaced the RWD Pinto. In 1984, Ford enlarged the Escort’s basic design to create the Tempo and Mercury Topaz, a replacement for the Fox-based Fairmont. And as had become its custom, Mercury produced its own version of the same basic car with different trim: the Topaz, in this case.

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I’ll never quite understand Ford’s thinking when it came to the engine in the Tempo and Topaz. It’s a 2.3-liter four, but not the one you’re thinking of. It would have made sense for Ford to use the Lima overhead-cam engine, or even an enlarged version of the Escort’s CVH four, but instead it developed a whole different engine, based on the ancient Falcon-style inline-six. I guess reusing the old tooling made it worth it? Anyway, this one runs fine, but it hasn’t been driven much, so it probably has some cobwebs that need to be blasted out. It also has a leaky valve cover, but a new gasket is included.

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Inside, it’s as clean as you would expect for having so few miles on it. The Tempo and Topaz never got airbags; they staggered along through their last four or five years of production meeting the passive-restraint mandate using motorized shoulder belts. The build quality of these is a little hit-or-miss; the seller says this one has a little trouble with the driver’s side power window, and some of the door lock/unlock buttons don’t work.

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Outside, it’s reasonably clean and shiny, but it does have a little bit of hail damage. On a car this age, and for this price, there are worse problems to have. Being a Mercury, it also has that bar of lights across the grille opening, and I’m willing to bet that it has one bulb burned out. They all seem to, and it always ends up looking like a missing tooth.

It should come as no surprise to hear that I have actually owned cars very similar to both of these. I had a 1985 Plymouth Caravelle for a winter beater one year, and a 1992 Ford Tempo coupe was actually the first car I ever made payments on. I honestly have no preference between them; they were both just fine, plenty comfortable, and more or less reliable. Exciting? No, of course not. But they were nice. Don’t take my word for it, though; go take one of these for a nice leisurely spin.

(Image credits: Facebook Marketplace sellers)

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ClutchAbuse
ClutchAbuse
3 months ago

The Topaz but only because it has AC. It hasn’t gotten lower than 96 in weeks here.

EricTheViking
EricTheViking
3 months ago

Three reasons I won’t touch Topaz:

  1. world’s shittiest headlamps (very common with US Ford products)
  2. motorised shoulder belts
  3. abnormally short seat tracks (very common with Ford products)

I am willing to overlook the lack of air conditioning system because it would help the car accelerate bit faster. So, E-Class for me (I can change the headlamp capsules to Hella ECE headlamps easily).

Robert Stanley McLaughlin
Robert Stanley McLaughlin
3 months ago

No A/C is a no-go

Freelivin2713
Freelivin2713
3 months ago

I was actually gonna go Mercury even though it’s a Fix Or Repair Daily FoMoCo equivalent so I wouldn’t have to vote K car for $3K?! Then I saw it was a Topaz- no thanks! I still kinda like the E-Class anyway so voted for it; it’s still just too much $ though

Gene1969
Gene1969
3 months ago

Going with the K car because it’s the E ticket of choice.

Titillating Bustline
Titillating Bustline
3 months ago

While not a fan, I always thought the E was the best proportioned of all of the K derivatives.

Samagon
Samagon
3 months ago

can I just buy a bicycle, or walk instead?

SageWestyTulsa
SageWestyTulsa
3 months ago

Oh man. A Chrysler E-Class was my very first car, an ’84 inherited from my grandfather with about 60k on the clock when I started driving in ’92. Mine also had the wheezy 2.2L and a column-shifted automatic like the example here, but in burgundy in/out. What a pile that car was. I remember a headliner that was already badly sagging, a dash that bowed in the middle, and an AM radio that had a channel hum that followed engine RPM. It blew a headgasket shortly after I assumed ownership, and spent a month in the shop getting that sorted out. Granted, the fact that I’d learned I could spin the front tires by punching it in reverse and then slamming it into drive while still traveling backward probably didn’t help. It was traded off the following year on an ’87 Gran Am 5sp coupe, which was infinitely preferable in all regards. I don’t think I’ve laid eyes on another E Class ever since.

All that being said, I’ve never harbored any particular nostalgia for that car, but I also actively loathed the Ford Tempo and Mercury Topaz when they were still ubiquitous on the streets. I don’t want either of these cars, but if forced to pick at gunpoint I guess I’d go with the Chrysler.

ReverendDC
ReverendDC
3 months ago

If you want something that will run forever, then Ford Tempo/Mercury Topaz. I didn’t say run WELL, mind you…

SAABstory
SAABstory
3 months ago

K car is never the answer.

Shop-Teacher
Shop-Teacher
3 months ago

Ufta! No AC in the Chrsyler really hurts its case, but it is in really nice shape. That Topaz is pretty scruffy on the outside for the mileage and interior condition, and they’re just so ugly. I’ll have the E-Class … I guess.

Andy Individual
Andy Individual
3 months ago

I wanna say Topaz. Has anyone here seen or had experience with retrofits to mouse belt cars converting them to normie belts?

Black Peter
Black Peter
3 months ago

All Y’all choosing the Topaz, obviously haven’t driven or owned one.. I owned once… Once

Nlpnt
Nlpnt
3 months ago
Reply to  Black Peter

Same. Mine was an ’84, not long after this late example was a new car. I haven’t owned a F**d since.

Vic Vinegar
Vic Vinegar
3 months ago

And while looking at the Chrysler listing….calling David Tracy.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/7498515130249030

Or “Michigan David” anyway. Maybe not Hollywood David.

Gene1969
Gene1969
3 months ago
Reply to  Vic Vinegar

I respect your choice of segue in this endeavor.

Rob Schneider
Rob Schneider
3 months ago

The no AC thing is the only factor making me rate one of these over the other.

Neither have any appeal whatsoever.

Vic Vinegar
Vic Vinegar
3 months ago

My grandfather had a K-Car New Yorker (Mark Cross Edition) with the talking car feature. It was certainly a hit for this kid. “The door is ajar”. So I’ll take the “E” for the nostalgia purposes.

SageWestyTulsa
SageWestyTulsa
3 months ago
Reply to  Vic Vinegar

Rest assured that this example does NOT have the talking feature.

SageWestyTulsa
SageWestyTulsa
3 months ago
Reply to  SageWestyTulsa

I’m a dummy and didn’t read the ad until after the fact. Disregard!

Boulevard_Yachtsman
Boulevard_Yachtsman
3 months ago

I actually think I (barely) prefer the K-car here, just because of the goofy K-car doors that are jars and what not. But, I voted Topaz because I’d rather have the 1200 extra dollars of seed money to save towards whatever would best wash away today’s taste of mediocrity.

ColoradoFX4
ColoradoFX4
3 months ago

The reason Ford developed the HSC instead of using the Pinto engine was primarily due to insufficient production capacity of the Pinto 2.3. That, combined with available capacity at the Lima engine plant (where the Thriftpower had been assembled) made the decision for the HSC a pretty straightforward one.

Hangover Grenade
Hangover Grenade
3 months ago

The Chrysler with a 2.2 Turbo / 5-speed swap would be a cool car.

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