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Here Are Two Small But Annoying Automotive Pet Peeves Of Mine

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I’ve never really liked the term “pet peeve.” It always sounded like the type of thing a sort of fussy person would keep track of in a little leather-bound journal, and that’s not really who I want to be. But, the word is useful in its specificity: some little habit or detail or practice that just rubs you wrong, and you end up making those annoyances your own special little irritants. They’re pet peeves, after all, and as pets, they need attention and need to be fed. So, that’s what I’m going to do right now, with two automotive pet peeves of mine!

A pet peeve generally is something sort of trivial, not Earth-shaking, and I think that qualifies for the ones I feel a need to share with you today, because, objectively, they’re not big things at all, and I should just get over it.

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But I can’t. They don’t stop annoying me. So let me vent them out here, and hopefully I’ll be free!

Peeve One: Rear Windows Are Not “Windshields”

Rearwindshield

I feel like I encounter this one a lot, and every time I hear it, I wince a bit. And it’s not like it’s uncommon, or not accepted in general use. I know automotive designers like to call it a “backlight” but I always found that a strange and slightly confusing term, though it is better than “DLO” or “daylight opening” which just sounds like what an alien might call a window, were they unfamiliar with the concept.

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I think the reason I don’t like “rear windshield” is because it simply isn’t a shield, dammit, not in the way a windshield is. The windshield literally shields you from the wind, from the air you’re pushing out of the way as you drive forward. The rear window? It just doesn’t do that. Well, I guess in reverse it does, a bit, but by that logic we’d call back-up lights “rear headlights” and no one does that.

This is a little thing, I know, but I feel like I can always spot someone who does not care about cars if they call a back window a “rear windshield.” Does that make me a dickhead? Does anyone else understand what I’m talking about here? I hope so.

Peeve Two: Using Clear Bulbs Instead of Amber Bulbs In Clear-Lensed Turn Indicators

Okay, this is a taillight-related peeve, so you know it’s important. I was reminded of this one again when I saw this Kia Soul the other day:

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See what’s going on there? This one car is an object lesson in what I’m talking about. When car designers want an amber turn indicator – front or rear – but don’t necessarily want a big amber lens, they will often have a clear lens with an amber bulb inside, a compromise to get the proper color of light without all the bright visual orange some people – especially a lot of designers – seem to want to avoid.

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When they do this, there’s a sort of unspoken agreement between you and the designer that when those bulbs need changing, you’ll find replacement amber bulbs and not just throw in some clear bulb, which hasn’t been the legal color of turn indicators since 1962. It’s like the people who don’t play ball here are going to ruin the concept of clear lens/amber bulb for everyone with this bullshit, because this lack of shit-givery is how we get mandated lens colors, people.

And let’s not forget the troubles we went through just getting from white to amber:

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It wasn’t easy!

That Kia up there had one amber bulb and one clear one: for fuck’s sake, Kia owner, stop being so lazy! Where’s your sense of taillight dignity?

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Man, after writing these out, they really do seem fussy and trivial. But I guess that’s the nature of a pet peeve, right?

Okay, now tell me yours! Make mine seem less inane, please?

 

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Ishkabibbel
Ishkabibbel
1 month ago

People who, during traffic jams, pull halfway into the lane next to them in an attempt to stop others from driving past them all the way up to the lane closure in some bizarre display of traffic vigilantism.

It’s as if the first thing the passing driver is going to say in the event of a wreck isn’t “I was driving along and this person pulled out in front of me!!”

Last edited 1 month ago by Ishkabibbel
Ncbrit
Ncbrit
1 month ago
Reply to  Ishkabibbel

Traffic vigilantism in general.

Justin Thiel
Justin Thiel
1 month ago
Reply to  Ishkabibbel

Sometime traffic needs a batman –

Lew Schiller
Lew Schiller
1 month ago

Clear rear turn signals that are invisible when the sun is on them, followed by DRL’s on at night along with excessively bright LED headlights.

Last edited 1 month ago by Lew Schiller
GoesLikeHell
GoesLikeHell
1 month ago

My pet peeve is when vehicle manufacturers use the reverse lights for anything besides indicating and illuminating when a car is in reverse.

WTF GM? Is that Traverse going to try and back over me as I walk through the parking lot or did the owner just remote start it, or lock/unlock a door. Maybe they light up when you forgot a child in the back, or the ash tray needs to be emptied. I don’t know the logic, but I do know it’s not standard and a pet peeve of mine.

CrystalEyes
CrystalEyes
1 month ago

People who leave a huge gap between themselves and the car in front of them when stopping. On a highway when cars may be coming up fast behind you, sure. But in the city it’s unnecessary and rude, especially when I means cars behind them can’t get into a turn lane. Seriously, sometimes the gap is actually big enough to pull into!

Giulia Louis-Dreyfus
Giulia Louis-Dreyfus
1 month ago

The third brake lights that flash several times before turning solid red are my biggest pet peeve.

Second is putting black covers over all the lights on a black car/replacing rear light housings on cars that have amber turn signals with those that are red. “It looks cleaner.” No, you’ve deleted significant design elements from your car and it now looks stupid.

Third is the dealership that goes beyond just putting their name on a decal or license plate frame on your car—they’ll place their name in big letters on the rear window as well. It’s usually a ‘buy here, pay here’ place, but I’ve noticed that Evergreen Kia in Chicago is guilty of this too.

Not really a pet peeve but more of an oddity is the person who appears to move to a new state, changes their license plates over to the state they now live in, and in the process also puts back on the frame with the dealership name on it. Better yet is if it’s upside down. It doesn’t need to be there! Throw it away!

GoesLikeHell
GoesLikeHell
1 month ago

That flashing 3rd brake light tells me they bought the car from a dealership that tacked that feature on as an overpriced upgrade. It’s a beacon letting us know who didn’t read the fine print.

Rust Buckets
Rust Buckets
1 month ago
Reply to  GoesLikeHell

It’s not a dealership overpriced upgrade. It’s standard from the manufacturer, the dealer doesn’t and can’t add that.

LTDScott
LTDScott
1 month ago
Reply to  Rust Buckets

Definitely not. Flashing CHMSLs are not OEM installed. They’re almost always dealership installed like already stated. Car manufacturers are held to DOT standards. Car dealerships are not.

Logan King
Logan King
1 month ago
Reply to  Rust Buckets

Even if I hadn’t once upon a time worked in a dealership and know for a fact this is false, speaking purely hypothetically why wouldn’t or couldn’t they add one?

The module costs like $10 on Amazon, they can implement it into a typical crossover SUV CHMSL setup in minutes and they can spin it like a value added safety feature over OEM as a line item for literally exponentially more money then it cost for them to add it.

Last edited 1 month ago by Logan King
Ryan S
Ryan S
1 month ago

You get a like for the correct answer – 3rd brake lights that flash before turning solid red. These should be outlawed.

Ostensibly they were created to increase safety by drawing attention to the fact that you’re braking. Realistically they were created to add one more differentiating item to the useless comparison lists that marketers resort to way too often. Ironically, they work too well and will likely reduce safety overall. My attention is annoyingly drawn to these blinking menaces just to find out that a completely ordinary thing is happening. Super frustrating and it’s obvious that I will subconsciously train myself to ignore them … in the process making me more likely to ignore a true case of emergency flashing lights.

The real shame is that this could have been implemented in a useful way. Imagine if the flashing indicated severe braking effort. That would actually be helpful! But that’s not what was implemented … because that would require some actual effort to send additional information to the light assembly indicating the severe braking condition. Nope, we get the zero-effort, zero-value feature that it flashes every time any braking is initiated. Outlaw them!

Last edited 1 month ago by Ryan S
Flyingtoothpick71
Flyingtoothpick71
1 month ago
Reply to  Ryan S

I have a few friends who I believe learned it from each other, but under heavy/emergency braking will turn on their hazards, which does what you’re describing and draws you to the fact that something unusual is happening and to slow down much quicker. It really only works for them because they have rear amber flashers though, not ones that block out their brake lights. it’s just not something I’ve seen otherwise though, but it is helpful.

Parsko
Parsko
1 month ago

Where is our Autopian license plate frame?!?!?!?

First Last
First Last
1 month ago

When I buy from a dealer I make it a specific condition of my purchase that the car has no extraneous decals or other dealer bullshit attached to it when I pick it up. I’ve even had the sales person hand-write that onto the bottom of a sales contract before signing. It’s actually that big a pet peeve for me lol.

Avalanche Tremor
Avalanche Tremor
1 month ago

Turning on hazards and slowing down when it starts to rain in any lane other the the far right. I’m all for driving within your limits and if you feel like you need to drive 10-20 under the speed limit to be safe then have at it, in the right lane. But it is not safe to turn on hazards and slow way down in the left or middle lanes of the interstate because some drizzle started and the flow of traffic is still moving.

Also turning on hazards when coming into a slowdown on the interstate. There’s already a sea of brake lights lit up, every tenth car in random lanes putting hazards on just makes it more confusing and distracting to people coming up on the slowdown.

Sissyfoot
Sissyfoot
1 month ago

Oh, man. I have a few.

First, cutting off the oncoming lane when making a left turn. Sometimes that’s going to work out, and I guess you…save one second? But then, when I’m in that lane, and you have to swerve to avoid me? Just be prepared for a car to ALWAYS be there and don’t do that shit.

Second, people who can’t negotiate a curved road in their own damned lane. We are blessed with extraordinary driving roads where I live, but I have to be hyper-vigilant at all times, because multiple times a week I have to take avoiding action when somebody comes around a bend fully in my lane.

Lastly, for now: driving and/or parking the wrong way in an angled parking lot. You can tell which way traffic is supposed to go, doofus. Stop it.

Amberturnsignalsarebetter
Amberturnsignalsarebetter
1 month ago
Reply to  Sissyfoot

people who can’t negotiate a curved road in their own damned lane

This. THIS. THIS!!!! Just this morning I was driving down a road with a gentle left-right kink that 90% of people seem to be incapable of negotiating without crossing the center line. On the same road, there is a junction with two-lanes for a left turn, and yet folks think it’s perfectly reasonable to cut the apex from the right-hand lane, even if it means I have to slam on the brakes to avoid being sandwiched between the median and a generic SUV being driven by someone on their phone.

There is a greater than zero chance that my life will end in a fiery collision, because I after dodging into the shoulder to avoid the thousandth fuckwit that cuts me off this way I might just crack and go full Mad Max on the next one.

Steve P
Steve P
1 month ago

People who drive with their handicap placards hanging on their rear-view mirrors.

Taargus Taargus
Taargus Taargus
1 month ago

I hate it when people pronounce Reese’s pieces “ree-cees pee-cees”. What the fuck is a pee-cee exactly might I ask? Twits.

Oh this is about cars. Uhhhhh, I hate it when people try to direct traffic, but we all went over that recently in another article.

Mechjaz
Mechjaz
1 month ago

Is… Is that a thing? Who the hell does that, and how can we launch them into the sun immediately?

Taargus Taargus
Taargus Taargus
1 month ago
Reply to  Mechjaz

I catch people doing it all the time. It’s bizarre and I’m not sure why some people default to it despite, you know, most people knowing how to pronounce the word “pieces” in any other context.

Go hang out near a soft serve ice cream joint for a while and I bet you’ll catch someone doing it.

Rob Bannister
Rob Bannister
1 month ago

Really more of an American problem, we call them rear windows as that’s what they are. While were on pet peeves, why rota? It’s called a disk brake because it uses a disk to brake. The drum on a drum brake is called a drum.

Sissyfoot
Sissyfoot
1 month ago
Reply to  Rob Bannister

It’s a ‘rotor,’ and this one makes some sense. Yes, it’s disc-shaped. But as part of an assembly that spins inside a stationary part, ‘rotor’ is reasonable.

Memphomike
Memphomike
1 month ago
Reply to  Sissyfoot

Yeah, friction stacks in aircraft brakes are made of alternating rotors and stators.

Wuffles Cookie
Wuffles Cookie
1 month ago
Reply to  Rob Bannister

Some disc brakes have multiple discs (airliners, for example), and half of those discs are rotating and the other half stationary. So “disc” is insufficiently precise, you need to identify your rotors and your stators.

The Dude
The Dude
1 month ago

Mine is using red for turn signals instead of amber.

Being able to tell immediately if someone is braking vs. intending to turn is very handy. Using red just seems cheap and lazy.

Wolfpack57
Wolfpack57
1 month ago
Reply to  The Dude

Euro Brands pay extra to stock an all-red taillight. I notice Merc doing this specifically

Highland Green Miata
Highland Green Miata
1 month ago

Torch, you’re going to be one helluva sumbich at the nursing home, is all I’m saying….

LMCorvairFan
LMCorvairFan
1 month ago

People calling things that are electrical electronic. Electric cars, blenders, fans, lawn mowers, motors, are not electronic.

Jason Christopher
Jason Christopher
1 month ago

I have to disagree with you about the rear windshield. It absolutely shields you from the wind!

Have you ever ridden in a car with a busted-out back window? It gets hella windy!

Rust Buckets
Rust Buckets
1 month ago

Depends on the car. When my f150 had no rear window, I expected some pleasantly strong ventilation. I was very disappointed to discover that the slipstream on the back of the cab means that you could barely tell the difference. The airflow and noise level were basically the same as when the glass was there, at all speeds under 65mph.

Along with Martin, Dutch Gunderson, Lana and Sally Decker
Along with Martin, Dutch Gunderson, Lana and Sally Decker
1 month ago

It’s been discussed before ad nausea,but if we’re talking pet peeves, I will go with drivers who have the right-of-way not taking the right-of-way. Happened again yesterday. Coming up the street to take a left into my driveway, there is a coming in the other direction. The oncoming car is moving fast enough, and I’m not in a rush, so I stop, signal, and wait. The oncoming car responds to this by stopping and flashing its headlights at me. I don’t know what they’re thinking; they’re the only car coming in the other direction as far as the eye can see, so they’re not holding up traffic to let me in. What kind of passive-aggressive nonsense is this?

Jack Trade
Jack Trade
1 month ago

Portlandia’s Yugo sketch covered this so well. This sort of obnoxious vehicular virtue-signaling has been around forever, but it’s somehow even worse now with all the electronic device distraction going on – we’re approaching zero traffic predictability now.

Droid
Droid
1 month ago
Reply to  Jack Trade

the wave-of-death…
every
damn
day

Wuffles Cookie
Wuffles Cookie
1 month ago

It’s idiots who think they’re being kind and polite, instead of fucking dangerous. I got hit on my bike thanks to one of these fuckwits once (they yielded the right of way to a left turn, who couldn’t see me in the bike lane and I got sprawled across the hood of the turning car, no serious injuries fortunately).

Refuse their courtesty, make them take the right of way. And if they get angry, get angry back, they are putting everyone in danger.

Strangek
Strangek
1 month ago
Reply to  Wuffles Cookie

I used to hate it when I commuted on my bike and people would yield the right of way to me when it wasn’t mine. They think they’re being nice, but they’re just making it harder on me and everyone else by not following the agreed upon rules. Just keep going you dipshit, I’ll turn after you pass like I’m supposed to so I don’t get hit from behind!

Dead Elvis, Inc.
Dead Elvis, Inc.
1 month ago
Reply to  Wuffles Cookie

It’s idiots who think they’re being kind and polite, instead of fucking dangerous. 

I’m sure this has come up here before, but it’s something that needs to be hammered into drivers’ heads – be predictable, not “polite”. That’s the safest approach for everyone.

Last edited 1 month ago by Dead Elvis, Inc.
Wuffles Cookie
Wuffles Cookie
1 month ago

Fuckin’ amen.

I drive a boring SUV
I drive a boring SUV
1 month ago

No no no no no on the orange bulb behind a clear lens one.

I am with you on the fact that there should not be a white bulb there (i.e. a bulb that lights up white) because it is a turn indicator and those should absolutely be orange but an orange-tinted bulb behind a clear lense looks like a half-arsed effort to have a nice clear look.

There are bulbs without orange tint that light up orange when turned on, so the lens looks nice and uniformly white and glows orange when indicating

Austin Thomason
Austin Thomason
1 month ago

Completely agree! I replaced my orange bulbs behind clear lenses with clear bulbs that light up orange. Cleans up the look of the car when the bulbs are off, and still gives a nice orange glow when lit. Best of both worlds!

Andrea Petersen
Andrea Petersen
1 month ago

Mercedes can’t decide whether to put the PRNDL on the steering column or the center console. Do you know how many times I’ve accidentally grabbed a wiper stalk when intending to reverse? PICK ONE, YOU TEUTONIC TWATWAFFLES.

Danger Ranger
Danger Ranger
1 month ago

It’s not Mercedes’ fault, stop blaming her!/s

Last edited 1 month ago by Danger Ranger
Andrea Petersen
Andrea Petersen
1 month ago
Reply to  Danger Ranger

I should specify the manufacturer, not Mercedes the lovely writer!

Spikersaurusrex
Spikersaurusrex
1 month ago

I feel your pain. My Mercedes has the shifter on a stalk on the right side of the steering column. My Ford has a dial on the center console. Transitioning between the two vehicles always causes me problems. I go to hit the wipers in the Mercedes and shift into neutral. I go to shift from reverse to drive in the Ford and turn on my wipers.

Strangek
Strangek
1 month ago

Got a new ride for the wife recently. It has shift buttons on the center stack instead of a traditional shifter or or the now popular dial. It’s far less annoying than I thought it might be, but I still have to look around when I get in there before I remember what’s going on.

Danster
Danster
1 month ago

Cars that pull half a lane to the left to prep for their right turn.

Last edited 1 month ago by Danster
Danger Ranger
Danger Ranger
1 month ago
Reply to  Danster

Or cars that come to a full and complete stop when turning right, not even at an intersection…. Or when they take the right turn at approximately 1.5 mph, dude, are you afraid you’re going to roll your RAV-4 at that speed?

LMCorvairFan
LMCorvairFan
1 month ago
Reply to  Danster

Avoid Saskatchewan, lots of farmers who are used to driving in fields doing farmer stuff that appears to require wide turns. They carry over this driving behaviour on the street.

Last edited 1 month ago by LMCorvairFan
Mechjaz
Mechjaz
1 month ago
Reply to  Danster

Oooh, I considered this one, too. You’re not in a semi, you’re in a Trailblazer. Fuckin chill.

Rust Buckets
Rust Buckets
1 month ago
Reply to  Danster

Some of us truck drivers have issues getting out of the habit.

First Last
First Last
1 month ago
Reply to  Danster

I think of these people as towing around invisible 30-foot trailers for all of their personal emotional baggage.

Alan Christensen
Alan Christensen
1 month ago

License plate frames with the dealer name on them — although that’s better than when they used to rivet a chrome label on the back.

Along with Martin, Dutch Gunderson, Lana and Sally Decker
Along with Martin, Dutch Gunderson, Lana and Sally Decker
1 month ago

When I worked for a dealer group, every time we tried to figure out our most effective marketing channel, it always came back to plate frames, followed by word-of-mouth. Everything else we actually spent money on – Digital, TV, Print, OOH (billboards) – worked the margins.

IanGTCS
IanGTCS
1 month ago

I’ve only had one last longer than the drive home, and that was because the sales guy asked if I was ok with him putting on the frame. Otherwise first thing I do when I get home is to toss it in the trash.

LMCorvairFan
LMCorvairFan
1 month ago
Reply to  IanGTCS

Every time they tried that I borrowed a screwdriver/wrench from them, removed the frame at handed it back to them.

Jack Trade
Jack Trade
1 month ago
Reply to  IanGTCS

I don’t begrudge the dealership for doing it, but I prefer the frames to decals or badging, as they’re straightforward to remove.

Wuffles Cookie
Wuffles Cookie
1 month ago
Reply to  Jack Trade

Yeah, I can live with the frame, it takes two seconds to remove with no permanent damage. But I will refuse delivery if they put any sort of adhesive decal on.

Jack Trade
Jack Trade
1 month ago
Reply to  Wuffles Cookie

My father once bought an Explorer from a dealer who used the decals with individual letters/logos when applied. I spent 45 minutes with a hairdryer painstakingly & carefully removing each one…ugh.

Parsko
Parsko
1 month ago

Lol, I said yes to this request just recently. Cause, why not not. I like frames better than no frame, sucks that it’s for the dealership. As I said above, where is my Autopian frame????

Strangek
Strangek
1 month ago
Reply to  Parsko

I’d buy an Autopian frame right now, I’ve got a new car that needs frames!

Parsko
Parsko
1 month ago
Reply to  Strangek

I would buy at least 4, plus 2 mudflaps I’ve also been asking for.

Strangek
Strangek
1 month ago
Reply to  Parsko

Mudflaps! Great idea. These guys hate money or something by not offering the branded accessories we crave!

Arrest-me Red
Arrest-me Red
1 month ago

People who approach the stop lights like a drag race, constantly moving forward then when the light goes green “DUUUUHHHHHH” for twenty seconds.

Urban Runabout
Urban Runabout
1 month ago
Reply to  Arrest-me Red

“Don’t honk at me – I’m busy texting/scrolling Insta”

Last edited 1 month ago by Urban Runabout
Bob Boxbody
Bob Boxbody
1 month ago
Reply to  Arrest-me Red

It’s always amusing when some guy five cars back jumps forward when the light turns green. Do these people have no foot control?

Urban Runabout
Urban Runabout
1 month ago
Reply to  Bob Boxbody

This is why I stop 10 feet back – so when the light turns green, I can lift off the brake and start rolling while everyone ahead gets their shit together.

Jack Trade
Jack Trade
1 month ago
Reply to  Arrest-me Red

I don’t know what’s worse, that staging or the creeping up to line from way back at the crawl of the automatic. It’s even worse when I’m riding my motorcycle.

Flyingtoothpick71
Flyingtoothpick71
1 month ago
Reply to  Jack Trade

I hate the crawl of the automatics, its miserable to deal with in my car or my bike because of the manual, and I’ve had people honk at me for not creeping up farther and just waiting where I originally stopped (like 5 feet from where I’d be able to creep to anyways).

Eggsalad
Eggsalad
1 month ago

It’s way too late to blame the designers and manufacturers (or standards organizations, whatev) but when amber bulbs came out they should have been given a unique base so amber and clear bulbs were not physically interchangeable.

Doug
Doug
1 month ago
Reply to  Eggsalad

totally agree! but it was before we all became so DUMB

Mechjaz
Mechjaz
1 month ago

Wildly swerving into the other lane when someone in front of you is turning. God forbid you should slow down at any point for any reason. You’d think these people were swerving around a crate labeled LIT DYNAMITE the way they refuse to leave some extra space when the turn signal ahead of them comes on and, horror of horrors, coast for 150 feet or so or even use the brakes. It’s clearly the proper thing to moose test yourself into oncoming traffic instead. Idiots.

I’m gonna stop myself there cause I think that’s already more than a pet peeve and violates the spirit of Torch’s question anyway.

Bob Boxbody
Bob Boxbody
1 month ago
Reply to  Mechjaz

I’ve seen a couple accidents caused by people doing this, not bothering to even check the other lane.

Also, I actively *like* it when people in front of me slow down to turn, especially up a hill, because I know that as soon as they’re clear, I can show off my acceleration and get back to the speed limit in the blink of an eye, which is fun.

Flyingtoothpick71
Flyingtoothpick71
1 month ago
Reply to  Bob Boxbody

I like how it is where I frequent, with a two lane road and a wider shoulder at popular turn offs in case you need to go around. I do dislike when I have to slow down on hills, but that’s mostly because I don’t have the power in my insight to then accelerate after slowing down on most hills on the roads I frequent

NJ Jeep Guy
NJ Jeep Guy
1 month ago

I feel like we can fix your pain Torch. Why can’t the bulbs be built with different pins. The indicator light wiring connection would refuse to accept a clear bulb if it needs yellow.

I know this will add 48 cents to every taillight wiring loom, but I think for your peace of mind we all can afford it.

Gene1969
Gene1969
1 month ago

I’m going to admit something. When I am on a long drive, I will shift lanes and pass cars until I find one with taillights I like enough to follow.

Am I the only one that does this?

Justin Grady
Justin Grady
1 month ago
Reply to  Gene1969

I do this…. and get rightfully annoyed when a car where I don’t like the taillight design merges into the space between myself and the nice taillighted auto in front of me. Case in point, following a 1990s 300zx (excellent) and a Dodge Durango (not excellent) merges in… and it janks up my following space as well.

Freelivin2713
Freelivin2713
1 month ago
Reply to  Gene1969

You are now welcome at any Taillight Bar…they will be honoring you this weekend

Gene1969
Gene1969
1 month ago
Reply to  Freelivin2713

Thank you! I’ll be there till Lights Out -er, I mean Last Call.

Gene1969
Gene1969
1 month ago

The amber bulbs substitute seems like another proof of Kias and effect.

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