It’s no secret that America is enchanted with large things. We love big trucks, wide roads, and burgers that can be measured in pounds. It’s a sharp contrast to what goes on in much of the rest of the world, where bigger isn’t always better. America got a taste of the rest of the world in the 2000s and 2010s when a wave of small cars washed up on our shores. The smallest of the small were the Smart Fortwo, the smallest modern mass-production car sold in America, and the Scion iQ, the car that claimed to be the smallest four-seater in the entire world. Both of these cars promised thrifty fuel economy, easy parking, and affordable prices, but nobody bought them. I’ve compared these cars against each other and now it’s clear why these were failures in America.
Some of you might be confused by this piece. My wife has owned her 2012 Scion iQ for a year now while I have recently added a sixth Smart to my fleet. I’ve had a long time to compare these cars, but for some reason I haven’t. I’ve been waiting for years to do this comparison. When the Scion iQ went on sale during the 2012 model year, its direct competition was the second-generation Smart Fortwo. I have three second-generation Fortwos in my fleet, but the first two are high-mileage examples where their best years are long behind them. I didn’t think it would have been fair to compare a low-mile iQ against a beat-up Smart.
However, now I have a clean Smart, allowing my dream comparison to commence. Unfortunately, what I discovered was not as I expected.
Cheaper Frugal Transportation
The Smart Fortwo and the Scion iQ were members of a wave of small cars that hit America right when extreme downsizing was trendy.
The Fortwo made its official launch in the United States in 2008 just as many Americans were hurting from the kickoff of the Great Recession and right on time for gas prices to spike. The timing of Smart USA couldn’t have been better. The Fortwo almost seemed like the second coming of the Geo Metro. It was an inexpensive car promising inexpensive running costs for an uncertain future. Plus, it also just looked as cute as a button.
The Scion iQ came later, landing in 2011 for the 2012 model year. America was still rebuilding and small cars were still popular. The Toyota promised to be what the Smart wasn’t. It was nearly as small, but it was designed to be mightier than a Smart in every way.
At the time, these two cars claimed to be the smallest of their kind. The Smart Fortwo beat the Mini Cooper at being the smallest mass-produced car sold in America. While the Scion iQ couldn’t make that claim, Toyota boasted about how no other four-seater sold in the world was smaller.
These cars were joined by a long list of other diminutive rides including the Chevrolet Aveo, the Suzuki SX4, the Honda Fit, the Toyota Yaris, the Ford Fiesta, the Fiat 500, the Honda CR-Z, the Mini Coupe, the Nissan Versa, the Mitsubishi Mirage, and I’m sure there are others that I’m missing. America wasn’t just going small with its cars, either, as work vehicles also downsized with a flood of tiny vans like the Ford Transit Connect, Ram ProMaster City, Nissan NV200, and the Chevy City Express.
Sadly, the vast majority of these cars are gone from the U.S. market. Somehow the Mitsubishi Mirage held on when brands like Honda and Toyota waved the white flag, but even the Mirage is disappearing from America soon. What’s left? The Nissan Versa, which isn’t that small anymore, the Fiat 500e, and the Mini Cooper, which also isn’t that small anymore.
All of these cars offered Americans a cheaper way to travel, but the Scion iQ and the Smart Fortwo took the small car idea to the extreme. These cars weren’t just tiny, but they were designed to be supercars for the city. Smarts are so short they could park perpendicular in a parallel space while the iQ needs just 26.4 feet to complete a turning circle. Both are designed to be able to snipe up the impossibly small parking spaces that even a Honda Fit cannot squeeze into.
Yet, both of these cars were sales failures. The iQ especially took a beating on the market. There are about 15,700 Scion iQs in America against about 98,000 Smart Fortwos. My wife and I love the unloved, so it’s only fitting we have examples of both of these cars. Now, a full decade later than a comparison like this would really matter, I finally got to test both cars side-by-side.
Similar, Yet Different
Let’s start with the basics.
The Smart Fortwo measures 8.8 feet long and 5.1 feet wide. Meanwhile, the Scion iQ sits at 5.5 feet wide and runs 10 feet long. This makes the cars very similar in size, but their layouts couldn’t be any different.
A Smart Fortwo is designed around providing maximum space to just two occupants. It achieves this using a rear engine and rear-wheel drive layout with the drivetrain stuffed behind the seats.
The Scion iQ places its engine up front and it drives the front wheels. However, Toyota went through some incredible development work to fit four seats in a space only a foot longer than a Smart. Click here to read my retrospective, but I’ll give you a short version. Toyota’s engineers moved the differential to the front of the engine, designed a steering system that’s more compact than usual, invented a substantially smaller air-conditioner pack, hid the fuel tank under the cabin floor, slimmed down the seats, staggered the seat rails, and even deleted the glove compartment. Yep, you have to store things in a flimsy tray under the front passenger seat.
Smart’s engineers also put in a ton of clever work behind the scenes. A Fortwo is built around a tough safety cage that’s supposed to activate the crumple zones of the car you hit since the Smart doesn’t have big crumple zones of its own. Every part of the car is supposed to sacrifice itself in a crash. Even the wheels are designed to absorb crash energy in an effort to reduce the impact to the occupants.
Both cars have a suite of airbags with the Smart boasting six airbags to cocoon the vehicle’s occupants. The Scion iQ goes even further with its 11 airbags, including what Toyota called the world’s first rear window airbag. That’s because the rear seat occupants of an iQ have their heads only a few inches from the rear glass.
Both cars earned four stars in crash testing with the Smart getting particularly high marks for having the strongest roof of any city car sold in America. In IIHS testing, the Smart’s roof took on 5.4 times the car’s weight. That’s 9,720 pounds!
Things start departing again when you look at the routes both manufacturers took. The Scion iQ has a conventional metal body whereas the Smart covers its safety cell in plastic panels. The Scion iQ has a 1.3-liter four-cylinder making 94 HP and 84 lb-ft of torque, while the Smart Fortwo has a 999cc three making 70 HP and 68 lb-ft of torque.
In terms of price, a 2012 Smart Fortwo had a starting price of $12,490 for a base Pure, $14,690 for the more luxurious Passion, and $17,690 for the Cabriolet. A 2012 Scion iQ was $15,265 and didn’t have trim levels. Instead, you picked options à la carte.
Performance
Neither of these cars is going to win in a race. Depending on who is behind the wheel, a Scion iQ can hit 60 mph in around 10 or 11 seconds. A Smart Fortwo on a good day can do it in around 12 seconds, but I’ve seen acceleration times as slow as 14 seconds.
Fuel economy is similar, too, as the EPA said an iQ will get up to 37 mpg while the Smart can do up to 41 mpg. In the real world, I get about 42 mpg with the Smart and about 37 mpg with the iQ. However, the iQ technically wins out because it drinks regular gasoline while the Smart wants premium.
The iQ outruns a Fortwo. It’s limited to 103 mph as opposed to the Smart’s limited 90 mph and its turning circle is even two feet sharper than a Smart. The 2,127-pound Scion iQ also weighs about 300 pounds heavier than a Smart, but you don’t really seem to feel the extra weight.
I’d say both cars lose when it comes to their transmissions. A Smart Fortwo of the era had a five-speed automated manual transmission that pretty much everyone hated. Meanwhile, the Scion iQ has a CVT and it isn’t something to get excited about, either. A lot of the time it leaves the car revving high and sounding like a blender. That said, of the two, I do prefer the Smart’s transmission as you can at least pretend to be a racing driver as you crawl to 60 mph.
Handling isn’t going to blow you away, either. Smarts are designed to understeer at the first sign of trouble. That’s baked in to reduce the risk of rolling over. The Scion iQ also plows wide when you get a little too frisky behind the wheel. In my experience, the handling of both cars is rectified by getting wider tires. I’ve driven Smarts over 200,000 miles and am happy to say that wider tires aren’t going to make you roll over.
The wider tires are also good for highway stability. The Scion iQ has razor sharp steering, but that can lead to a twitchy feeling on the highway. Meanwhile, the Smart gets blown around in high winds. In my experience, wider tires fix both problems.
The cars also differ in ride quality. Both cars have MacPherson struts up front, but the tuning varies. The front suspension of a Smart is hard and harsh, while the Scion is softer. Things get interesting in the rear, where a Smart has a De Dion tube suspension and the iQ has a torsion beam.
I think the Smart’s De Dion wins in the rear because it’s actually quite soft.
However, the iQ is overall a more comfortable car that’s less prone to shaking out your fillings, especially if you run tires with healthy sidewall. Every bump is less violent. The iQ’s standard 16-inch wheels also seem to handle monster potholes better than a Smart’s 15-inch alloys.
With that said, neither car really feels like a normal car when things get rough. Keep in mind that these cars have short wheelbases, limited suspension travel, paper-thin stock tires, and weigh as light as a feather. You will get tossed around on rough roads in either car.
Still, at the end of the day, the iQ does edge out the Smart on handling. It’s a little wider, a little longer, and its wheels are pushed out a little further into the corners than the Smart. Yet, the iQ sort of just drives like any other front-wheel-drive car while the Smart feels like a glorified golf cart or go-kart.
Interior
Both of these cars have vastly different approaches to their interiors.
A Smart goes for an upscale experience with a fabric-covered dashboard, available heated leather seats, and nifty design patterns. The cabin is also made airy with either a full panoramic polycarbonate roof or the ability to go topless with the convertible. Of course, Smarts also love being weird, so your instrumentation is housed in prominent pods and the interior tries to look like modern art.
The features also match this upscale mission as buyers were able to get their Smarts with alarm systems, fog lights, automatic wipers, automatic headlights, paddle shifters, cruise control, and a surround sound system with a subwoofer and navigation screen.
The iQ feels like a Toyota product from the early 2010s. That means hard plastics, easily scratched piano black plastics, and cloth seats that would feel at home in a city bus. The iQ, at least the American market version, is more of an economy car. You cannot get heated seats and you cannot get leather. The American market model also didn’t have cruise control as an option. You can also forget about the automatic convenience options. However, Scion did offer cool wheels and a jammin’ Pioneer sound system with more speakers and better sound clarity than what Smart offered.
Ergonomics are imperfect in both cars. Smart’s seats are sporty, but not so comfortable if you’re a wider person. Scion’s seats have less bolstering than a park bench but feel good on a road trip. Smart’s steering wheels don’t adjust and both cars offer only the most basic seat adjustment in the form of position and seatback control. Neither car will be the most fitting vehicle you’ve driven.
What’s a little odd is that Toyota did offer more upscale interiors in other markets. Sadly, Americans were stuck with interiors not unlike a Corolla of the day.
I’ll also note that the iQ does make better use of its interior. Occupants have better shoulder room than they would in a Smart and the rear right seat is legitimately spacious enough for an adult. The same could not be said for the rear left seat, which cannot fit a full-size adult unless the driver is a short person. But if there are just two of you, it feels like a normal car!
The iQ also has a bit of a strange solution to storage. When the rear seats are up there isn’t anywhere to put cargo. However, fold the rear seats down and you have about the normal amount of cargo space you’d expect from a hatchback of larger size. So, the iQ is great for couples.
Of the two, I think the Smart has a better interior design and the seats are better for spirited driving. However, the iQ’s interior feels better at long journeys. Just make sure you get an aftermarket cruise control like my wife did.
Reliability And Quality
This next one is going to be an interesting one.
In my experience, Smarts can be reliable cars, but they can be total disasters when they aren’t. They also have known issues that impact a huge number of cars. For example, all versions of the Smart Fortwo sold in America had a roof that hasn’t aged well. The polyurethane roofs of the base model Pures are known for delaminating. The polycarbonate roofs of the Passion Coupes are known for internal cracking and peeling. And the convertible tops of the Cabriolets are known for shrinking, leaking, and eventual total failure.
Meanwhile, the iQ has a plain steel roof, one that’s unlikely to ever give you any trouble.
The problems with Smarts continue as some of the all-aluminum Mitsubishi engines that power them have died to burned valves. Others have warped their heads after sudden coolant loss events. Sadly, the range between overheating and engine damage is very narrow. In my experience, if you’re seeing an overheating light in your Smart, you probably already have head damage.
Then you get to the transmission, which will sometimes kill its clutch actuator or you’ll encounter an internal fault which leaves the car trapped in Park. Other issues include peeling paint on red, yellow, and blue cars, front springs that snap over time, rear crash bars that rust out, and known parasitic battery drain. Over time, the plastic panels can also get brittle. This can be bad as it can lead to the vehicle’s “hood” flying off once the plastic latches degrade enough.
For the most part, Scion iQs appear to be a bit more sturdy. I’ve seen issues like a CVT whine, paint fade, and cold start engine rattles, but that’s the most serious of it.
It also appears that the Scion iQ is far more prone to rusting than a Smart. Sheryl’s iQ now has a rust spot on the passenger door and the front subframe is looking pretty scaly.
Toyota didn’t even attempt to protect the rockers from damage, either, as there are no liners in the rear. Our iQ’s rockers get filled with dirt and road salt in the winter.
There are also other things I don’t like about the iQ. Its door seals trap far too much dirt and road salt, which causes corrosion. Scion also forgot to give you a center console or center armrests, so your arms sort of just flop around. Its dome light is honestly the worst interior light I have seen in any car made in the past 30 years.
Seriously, the dome light is a tiny LED spotlight that shines light on a highly focused area. If you lose something in your Scion iQ at night you just aren’t going to find it until daylight. The epic packaging prowess of the iQ also makes maintenance and repairs a little harder. You could refresh most of a Smart’s engine bay in a few hours of time, but the iQ makes you dig through parts just to get to the spark plugs through the tiny hood.
But the drivetrain has been impressive in how much it has worked without a single flaw. I can’t say that about any of my six Smarts.
At any rate, I regularly see both Scion iQs and Smart Fortwos with well more than 150,000 miles. I’ve also seen some Smarts and iQs with over 250,000 miles. So both cars can take a serious beating for a while. Sheryl has put nearly 40,000 miles on her iQ in the year she’s had it and it doesn’t show signs of stopping yet.
Both Are Great Failures
So, now it’s time to answer my question. Why did these cars fail?
I think the answer is different for both cars. I was around when Smart launched in America and many prospective buyers were disappointed that the Fortwo was not the second coming of the Geo Metro. It didn’t get the fuel economy you’d expect from a car of this size. Smart had a super thrifty diesel engine that gets a legitimate 70 mpg, but the company felt that Americans were willing to trade fuel economy for more speed.
Then there’s the fact that you were getting a tiny city car that, when well equipped, was around $16,000. When Smart came to America, Nissan Versas could be had brand new for $10,000. So, Smart was asking buyers to spend more money to get less car. Ultimately, I think what doomed Smart USA was the fact that it focused on selling the Fortwo to city dwellers when people were really looking for a cheap economy car. Once the city folk got their Smarts, sales dried up alarmingly quick.
Weirdly, Smart did have a good example of how to sell cars to Americans. Up north, Smart sold diesels to the Canadians and a majority of the Smarts sold in Canada went to rural buyers who wanted to save money.
The Toyota iQ’s biggest problem came from within Toyota. The Scion iQ spent most of its time on the market with a base price of around $16,000. That made it over $1,000 more expensive than a Toyota Yaris, which had similar features, similar fuel economy, and a more spacious interior. In other words, you were once again spending more money to get less car. But it was even worse since the cheaper car came from within Toyota. You really had to desire to park in just about any space in order to want the iQ over a Yaris. At least a Smart was hands down the cheapest way into the Mercedes-Benz ownership experience.
But it somehow gets worse than that. These are two highly specialized cars — both meant to be the ultimate dense city car — in a country where they really aren’t necessary. Unless you live in New York City or San Francisco you would have gotten by just fine with a larger car that cost about the same and got close enough fuel economy. I mean, the best-selling vehicles in America are a lineup of pickup trucks, after all. So, you really had to want these cars to end up with one of them.
Then there was just the fact that the small car started dying off the further we got from the Great Recession. I’m not surprised that two of the smallest modern cars on American roads were among the first to die off. Honda eventually decided that Fit sales weren’t sustainable enough. And if Honda can’t sell tiny cars in America, Smart didn’t stand a chance.
Thus, the Scion iQ and Smart Fortwo are orphans. They didn’t sell for long and now it seems the American affiliates of their automakers would rather you forget about them. But, I think they’re still worth considering today. Both of these cars can be had for cheap and both of them stand out in the crowd of gray crossovers that dominate the roads today. They’re not the fastest, the sportiest, or the most fuel-efficient cars out there. But, both of these cars are a ball of fun.
If you’re looking at this pair, I have some recommendations. Get the iQ if you’re looking for the most conventional driving experience, Toyota quality, and more room. Consider a Smart if, like me, you’re a bit of an oddball and you don’t like doing anything the “normal” way. Either way, I think you’ll have a great time.
(Images: Author, unless otherwise noted.)
I hadn’t seen a Scion iQ on the road in ages until I recently visited Catalina Island off the coast of Southern California. If you want to know where all the iQs went, there’s your answer (along with tons of kei trucks).
I always like the iQ for being a weird little thing, I thought I looked pretty good too.
I would get the Hot Lava one and bootleg it into an Aston Martin Cygnet, lol
I dunno how much sales numbers gets into the equation because I vaguely remember Toyota/Scion not actually expecting or sending all that many of them over here compared to even other models in the Scion brand at the time.
A young guy I knew just starting his career was quite interested in the diesel Smart. Gathered brochures—even drove hours to a major car show when they were presented to sit in one in person. The diesel didn’t come here, and only the automated transmission.
He had said if he couldn’t get a manual diesel, he’d buy a Prius—and he did
The diesel never had the option of a real manual transmission. All of them had the…uh, we’ll say “polarizing” automated transmission.
Still, the Prius was a good choice!
Is that really the oil filter just hanging down there in space on the Smart? That seems worrisome. Easy to change, sure, but one errant bit of road debris and there goes all your oil.
Yep! I’ve never had an issue with the oil filter in over 200,000 miles of driving various Smarts and even taking them off-road. There are other bits that get smashed up long before you even touch the oil filter. RIP my 2008’s belly pan…
PLEASE include metric measurements too!
Doug DeMuro does it in his videos, how hard could it be to do the same here?
A car being eleventy feet long, using a hogshead of gas for half a million inches… means nothing to most of the world.
Or you know… Just do the conversion yourself if it means that much to you.
If the website doesn’t want paying subscribers from outside the US, by all means.
I can tell you why I didn’t consider buying either the Smart or the iQ… the iQ was a very small and overpriced car. They justified the too-high price by marketing it as a ‘lifestyle vehicle’… which was just some marketing BS.
If it was just a modern incarnation of a 4 door/4 seat Suzuki Swift/Forsa/Geo Metro, for a competitive price, that would have been an iQ that I would have considered buying.
As for the Smart ForTwos… there are numerous reasons why I wouldn’t buy one… starting with that awful automated manual transmission that is shit even when working right. The next biggest thing was it was another one of those overpriced ‘lifestyle vehicles’. And then there’s the “German Quality”
I’m more likely to buy an iQ than a Smart.
But the modern small car I would and did buy was the Honda Fit.
Same deal with the Toyota Yaris… one of which my mom drove until she passed away.
I only have one car. And thus, that one car needs a minimum level of practicality. So that means seating for at least 4, 4 doors, some real trunk space and not have stupid/weird things like the weird offset tire sizes that the Smart car used that made tire replacements needlessly expensive.
Great read! Those two tone steelies on the IQ look sweet!
I’m Canadian so we got the diesel version of the Smart. I’ve driven a few and was pleasantly surprised how spacious they are as a 6’4″ chubby guy, and still see a decent number around.
What I remember most about when they came out was a review that basically came down to “It’ll take years to break even from the fuel savings of one compared to a Yaris and with a Yaris you get a usable rear seat and a “normal” car.” Plus as a Toyota there are dealers and people who can service them literally everywhere.
I appreciate the engineering and design that when into them but Smarts were just too odd for most people in North America.
Was the Smart a good seller in UK/Europe where the small size and diesel economy would fit better with their requirements?
Thanks for this comparison – very useful at this point when these have depreciated to the point where I could just pick one up at a whim if I ever had to go back to commuting and gas prices got high.
Have you ever driven the last-gen Smart that came with a real manual transmission in the US for a year or two, Mercedes? I bet those are a hoot.
“At least a Smart was hands down the cheapest way into the Mercedes-Benz ownership experience.“
Former girlfriend had a Smart electric. She lost her only key for it at one point. Mercedes dealer wanted $375 to cut and program a new one, but since there was no existing key to match, the ECU would need to be replaced. Cost to tow the car in, order the part from Europe, install, program (+key): $2-$3K. The car was essentially totaled by losing the key.
So yeah, that comment checks out.
What.
One thing I learned over a decade ago is that once your warranty expires you no longer have a single reason to darken the floors of the Mercedes dealership.
These cars come with two keys from the factory, but it’s common for one key to get lost in day to day life. People buying these cars secondhand often never get a second key because the first owner lost it and nobody ever bothered to clone the lone surviving key.
Then the poor second or third owner loses the key and sadly, it gets crazy expensive from there. The ECU isn’t what gets replaced, but a device called the SAM. The keys are paired to it and while you can pair additional keys to it, you need an existing key to clone the new key. Otherwise, you need a new SAM and new keys.
SOS Diagnostics of Oregon can fix a no key situation for half of the price of the dealer, if not cheaper. IIRC, the process involves taking out the old SAM and sending it to them along with your new keys. No tows or anything like that needed like with the MB dealer.
Yep, that’s exactly the path that ex-GF went down, since we live on the west coast. Luckily, she found her key and was able to clone it with a creative mobile locksmith, but my point is you definitely get the full MB experience if you’re not resourceful.
When the Smart first came out, I thought it was stupid, because back then, *I* was stupid. Around 2011-2012, I disliked them less, but still didn’t see the point because my $500 ’91 Escort could get almost the same fuel economy (or the same under some conditions), with regular instead of premium, and carry more stuff and people. I wish they were more fuel efficient, or didn’t take premium, because I would definitely consider buying one at some point. Maybe if I ever stumble upon one of the Canadian diesel ones? That would be better anyway, just because diesel.
I actually rented a Brabus Smart from Turo one time when I was in California. I don’t really remember much about my experience with it, but it wasn’t bad, and didn’t feel as small as it was.
There was actually one bad part; I was driving from LA to Lancaster, and going over the mountains, I had my foot to the floor and was losing speed. I figured there had to be something wrong with it. I’m pretty sure the last renter put regular in it, because when I filled it up with premium the next day, it felt a lot better to drive.
Most people, when they first encountered a Smart car, assumed it was a 60mpg car. It was small, light, slow, and had a tiny engine. But not the commensurate mileage.
Its raison d’être was efficiency and it failed.
It’s such a weird attempt at a value proposition.
Consumer: “Is it cheaper than other small cars?”
Smart: “No! But it’s tiny!”
Consumer: “Does it get better gas mileage than other small cars?”
Smart: “No! But it’s tiny!”
Consumer: “Does it offer a unique or luxurious interior compared to other small cars?”
Smart: “No! But it’s tiny!”
Consumer: “Is it worse in nearly every way than other small cars?”
Smart: “Yes! And But it’s also tiny! You truly cannot fit SHIT in this thing!”
Ouch! lol 🙂 I cannot even imagine what that conversation looked like for the Scion iQ, which sold dramatically fewer copies. “You know the Toyota Yaris? What if we made it smaller and charged more for it?”
Consumers: “But why?”
This is the answer. My Fiesta ST has 4 doors and more power and also hits 38mpg on regular gas.
I remember a Smart dealership that popped up when these came out. It was a cool place with the safety cage on display. Can’t recall the amount but I do remember the price gave me a pause. The dealer wasn’t there that long and I’ve only seen a few Smart Fortwos in the city. However, I’ve seen a handful running about in these small country towns.
Reading through these comments there is a common theme. The tiny size of these two really isn’t a benefit for anyone outside of a few highly-urbanized areas. They don’t get significantly better fuel economy, they way a Geo Metro did. And either one of these would be absolute hell on a real American-style road trip (1,000 mi/day).
A two year-old Civic or Corolla was a better vehicle for almost every American than either of these, and the sales figures prove that.
I cannonballed one from Los Angeles to Chicago non-stop. It wasn’t absolute hell at all. More uncomfortable than a normal car, sure, but not hell. My wife and I also took her iQ down Route 66 and had a total blast.
To be clear, I never said that these are better than Civics or Corollas. I mean, that’s part of why they didn’t sell. If you can get a larger, more comfortable car for about the same price and get about the same fuel economy, the reasons to buy the tiny car dwindle to almost nothing.
On those long road trips, you’re a lot younger than me, Mercedes. You’ll see.
My wife has become the limiting factor on road trips these days. 🙂 I still do cannonball-style trips when I ride solo, but my wife likes taking her time. She’s a stickler about getting hotels and stuff while I have no problem driving through the night.
I like them both from a conceptual perspective, though I’ve only ever driven the IQ. I found it surprisingly enjoyable, even on the highway. Always wanted to sample a Smart. Enjoyed the comparo.
I could absolutely see the virtues of an IQ or a Smart in Tokyo or Rome, respectively. Tokyo traffic is more orderly, and parking is not quite as “catch-as-catch -can” as Rome but a micro-car still makes obvious and perfect sense. However in the U.S. – outside NYC and a few other places- even Pure City Driving involves high speeds and the potential for violent interaction with a Ford F150. Additionally, since F150’s have been the best selling vehicle in the country for years, parking spaces almost always are large enough for them…
So, no matter how great these cars are in their niche that niche is just too small in America for them to be a financial success here.
My kei car is admittedly 11 inches longer than the iQ, but I can actually drive around with four people in the car without amputating anyone’s legs. It also weighs two thirds of the Scion.
All with a complete absence of safety features and crumple zones! Wear a sweater!
“I can actually drive around with four people in the car without amputating anyone’s legs.”
That’s the F150’s job.
I remember reading about the Smart at the time. It has impressive crash protection for the size but most everyone agreed that for the price you could just get a more practical VW Jetta TDI and get even better fuel economy.
Maybe if these had launched after Dieselgate it would have been a different story. But as others have mentioned, the US just has too much space to be concerned with getting something so small. It has to just be something you’re into I think.
Most people just aren’t willing to make the sacrifices of space and comfort for similar MPG as you’d achieve with a semi-modern Accord or Camry.
I saw a Scion iQ for the first time in my life last night, if that tells you anything.
In NYC they (and Smarts) are pretty popular with certain trades, locksmiths and engineering companies and the like.
Yeah, my 2008 Fortwo came from a guy who ran a Geek Squad-like IT company. I’ve been told these tiny cars make for great advertising vehicles since everyone is always looking at them.
And if you’re a locksmith you can put an oversized key on the rear windshield – makes it look like a wind-up toy.
Places where parking is always a problem that makes a lot of sense.
When I come home late and drive around looking for a parking space in my city neighborhood, I always go by a space that my small cars wouldn’t fit in but one of these two would. Add up all that time and maybe I should have considered one of them.
Other than the value proposition (against slightly larger compacts) and the MPG’s not being That much better (against slightly larger compacts), it would have still been impossible to sell these cars due to two huge things:
1) Americans don’t buy cars for what they actually use them for; they buy cars for what they could possibly do with them. Very few people actually need a half ton pickup, but they buy them for that one time they might need to tow 10,000 lbs or carry a bed full of stuff.
2) Americans buy cars off of perceived safety, despite the facts. Both the cars appear to be death traps, despite good ratings on crashes. They’ve always believed that bigger is better in a wreck (wrong), and that old cars with gargantuan bumpers will survive crashes better than new compacts (wrong). They can’t wrap their minds around the fact that a 2015 Fit is safer than a 2012 Pilot (look up the small overlap crash videos on those cars and be amazed).
I’d agree that there is a place for these, but America is a tough sell. The people who most benefited from a city car were people who, well, lived in dense cities. Those people take public transport because there is public transport available. Most other people live in the suburbs or country, where the parking spaces are plentiful (AND FREE!).
I really wanna see a comparo between the Brabus Smart and the Aston Martin Cygnet. That should be fun!
I don’t think the Cygnet gets a significant amount of extra power compared to a base iQ
I don’t think it got any.
The simple fact is almost no drivers in the US are space constrained in a major way.
If you live in Manhattan, sure, but most of those people don’t own a car at all.
In a recession, people might want cheap running costs, but now in the age of hybrids, small size isn’t necessary to get good fuel economy. These city cars will be remembered as a curiosity of a unique time.
Even at the time the iQ didn’t have much to it, for $4000 more you could get a Prius C. A larger, significantly more practical car that was still compact and got great economy.
$4K on top of $15K is a relatively big jump, but for the same price as the Smart you could get a Fit.
The best sales regions for Smart in the USA were NYC, southern Florida, LA, and San Francisco. If you go to SF you’ll see a Smart on practically every city block. I also saw a high number of Smarts in NYC the last time I was there.
These tiny rides make sense out there. If you own a car, parking will probably suck, so just buy the smallest one possible so you can fit in those oddball spaces other cars can’t get into. I noticed a similar sort of deal in France.
Floridians bought the convertibles as beach cars and RV toads, and they’re also pretty great for those specific purposes.
But yeah, that’s another problem with these cars. They were highly specialized vehicles and unless you lived in a dense city or had a house on a beach you didn’t really have any real reason to own one.
In Europe, as you probably know, people park Smarts perpendicular to the curb, so they really only take up 1/3 or 1/4 the space of a regular car.
I haven’t seen that done here at all, so I wonder if it’s illegal somehow.
I’d still like to try to get one into the bed of my truck sometime for a laugh.
I sometimes park mine perpendicular to the curb when I drive to Chicago. I’ve been told it isn’t legal, but I’ve yet to get a ticket for it. I never have a problem finding a space because there’s always a gap that’s too small for regular cars, but would fit a couple of motorcycles or a Smart.
But yeah, that’s a really specific use case!
I guess it’s all about just how space constrained you are.
I live in an old (by US standards) mill town where much of the housing is over a hundred years old and built into hilly terrain. A sizeable number of folks around here have smallish driveways, parking pads, or garages and I know a bunch of us have made car-buying decisions at least partially driven by vehicle footprint. When I was car shopping I made a spreadsheet with the width and length of cars I was thinking about, along with red, yellow and green color coding to show how well each car would fit in my garage.
I ended up with a Miata; I know other footprint-conscious people that have ended up with a Mini or a Chevy Bolt or even a Jeep Renegade. But neither I nor anyone else I’ve talked to about the issue considered a Smart or an iQ – we just didn’t need something that small, and unless you do, these city cars are quite unappealing.
The market for something smaller than a Civic is real. But the market for something Smartcar-sized is much much smaller.
Yeah, by “major way” I suppose I meant settling for a car designed with small size as its primary virtue and all the compromises that go into that. I might consider the Miata to fall into that category, and maybe even the Mini, but almost nothing else currently sold.
A subcompact or compact has small size as a byproduct of being designed for cheapness and efficiency, not as the primary focus.