For years I’ve been going back-and-forth on whether I should buy a new Jeep Wrangler JL — the only vehicle I ever helped develop. How cool would it be to say “See this car I drive? I helped engineer it.” That’d be great; plus, it’s exactly the kind of machine I tend to love — a dual-solid-axle off-road beast. But I just rented two in Hawaii during my honeymoon, and now I’m glad I chose my BMW i3S instead. But I still want one.
I’ve been pretty much off the grid for the past 10 days thanks to a delightful honeymoon in Hawaii, a cluster of volcanic islands that it took me 33 years to visit. My overall impression: It’s not nearly as touristy as I feared, and in fact, in many ways it felt like an authentic, largely undisturbed natural wonder. Of course, I only visited Kauai and The Big Island, and I understand that Oʻahu is a bit busier. Still, I was impressed.
You know what I wasn’t impressed by? Our rental car’s powertrain. Like every other tourist in Kauai, I drove a Wrangler:
The one I chose was a 4xe, and I drove it the entire time in hybrid mode. That’s because the rental agency didn’t charge its 4xe plug-in hybrids, so the vehicles were all pretty much just running on gasoline. This is exactly what a lot of PHEV-detractors complain about: Too many people don’t actually plug their vehicles in.
But I get it. In the case of the 4xe, the 22 mile EV range will only get you 1/3 the way around the small island; that tiny thimble of juice runs out quick, and it doesn’t help that not all hotels charge EVs overnight, so once you’re out, you’re out unless you want to make a charging stop…somewhere. And I don’t know about you, but on my vacation I’m not stopping to charge a car so I can get an extra 22 miles of EV range. Nope.
Anyway, the 4Xe is still a really enjoyable, open-top off-road vehicle, and the ultimate Hawaii rental. But that owes little to the powertrain, which is middling at best — especially once the tiny battery is empty. That 2.0-liter turbocharged GME-T4 under the hood is buzzy, and the way it jolts on when it fires up combines with all the buzzing and whining from the electric powertrain to yield a car that just feels unrefined and maybe even a bit half-baked.
The number of noises you hear from the 4xe — the electric power steering pump, the motor itself, the pedestrian protection, the engine itself — it’s a bit strange, and the often-abrupt power delivery when you roll onto the accelerator pedal didn’t help. Maybe it was somehow related to this being a rental car, but the 4Xe powertrain is just not the one I’d ever want. Yes, at $50,000 minus whatever EV incentives you qualify for, you could probably nab a Wrangler 4xe Sport S for not much more than a similarly-equipped 2.0-liter non-PHEV Wrangler four-door, and if you factor in the fuel savings, that might be the smart bet if you believe this 4Xe wont end up costing you in maintenance given all its complexity.
For me, I’m sticking with a six-speed manual.
Anyway, after picking up the rental car, I drove us to this hotel, which looks just like one that might have a few velociraptors running through it:
Speaking of, you remember this tree that the first-gen Ford Explorer landed in in that movie?:
My wife Elise (not her real name) and I visited that tree! It’s the far one here:
Behold:
Apparently this is the root that was damaged during the car’s fall:
To be clear, I will be buying a Jeep Wrangler JL at some point in my life; the easily-removable roof panels were amazing, there was tons of room, the ride quality isn’t really that horrible, and the off-road capability is prodigious. In fact, I used that off-road capabililty to get a parking spot that nobody else dared to even consider as an actual parking spot:
Look at that articulation; easy.
But last year I had a decision to make: Do I buy a Wrangler or a BMW i3S? Most would have figured I’d buy a Wrangler, since I am a Jeep man. But I chose the i3S; why?
The answer is simple: The BMW i3S offers something I cannot easily get in an older, cheaper vehicle (other than another i3). It’s a carbon fiber, modern-ish EV with a range extender. There’s nothing else like it.
But the Jeep Wrangler JL, if we’re being honest, isn’t that different than my Jeep Grand Cherokee 5-speed. It’s got the same suspension and ride similarly poorly, it’s got the same steering mechanical bits so it steers similarly poorly, it’s got a more complicated engine, its manual transmission isn’t as fun — it’s really not that much of an upgrade over an older vehicle.
The the reason for this is that the Jeep Wrangler JL has retained many of the traits that have made old Jeeps so great, and I do love that. I also can appreciate that the engine is more powerful and efficient and the structure is safer (though the vehicle is way, way heavier than my old Jeep), but because I can wrench on old vehicles, I just didn’t see the point in me spending $35 grand on a vehicle that is mechanically that similar to my other Jeeps. And what’s more, spending that much money on a vehicle that will only do about 20 MPG given California fuel costs also made very little sense to me.
By now it should be clear that this post is really just an excuse to share a bit of my honeymoon with you, dear readers. But since we’ve gone this far, I may as keep typing. Here’s the last bit of car-talk before I just show you Hawaii pictures:
It turns out, aqua is a culturally significant color in Kauai; I’m not entirely sure I understand the history (purple is the official color), but I saw tons of aqua-colored cars to the point where I had to look it up. It turns out, there is some meaning behind the color, and in fact, Behr has a paint color called Kauai:
Anyway, check out this gorgeous canyon my wife Elise (not her real name) and I hiked to in Waimea Canyon State Park:
That’s right here, in case you’re as familiar with Kawaii as I was the day I arrived on the island:
Check out this waterfall, which was an extremely anticlimactic end to a rather grueling, muddy hike:
In Hawaii, chickens are everywhere, and they are rarely eaten (they’re considered friends, and some say the wild ones don’t taste great). This one walked with E(NHRN) and me for about a mile; a fellow hiker referred to these birds as “spirit guides”:
On a subsequent day, E(NHRN) and I went Kayaking, where she rightfully chided me for my poor paddling form:
This kayaking trip took us to the bottom of a 120 foot waterfall, which I swam under. According to legend, touching the back wall of a waterfall adds four years to one’s life, which might make up for a small portion of all that motor oil I had in my bloodstream pretty much constantly between 2015 and 2022.
Later, we attended a Luau, which was thoroughly touristy but still fun:
Then E(NHRN) decided we should foster a dog for a day, so we headed to the humane society and picked up Kimchi:
Kimchi liked the Wrangler so much she urinated on the rear seat. (We tried cleaning it, but hopefully the rental company won’t bill us for that!). She also enjoyed the beach:
(If you want to adopt a dog, Kimchi is available at the Kauai Humane Society; shipping to the mainland is only $200, it turns out — that’s not bad.).
On the Big Island, E(NHRN) and I were also lucky enough to see Kīlauea have a bit of an eruption; I’d never seen a volcano before, so this was awesome.
Also awesome was the wildlife we saw on our honeymoon; we visited a botanical garden and saw lots of amazing plants and trees.
We saw multiple sea turtles:
The avian life was incredible:
And how about this endangered Monk Seal? Apparently there are under 1,400 still in existence! This one seemed to be enjoying life:
Anyway, let’s see if I can somehow bring this back to cars.
The Jeep Wrangler JL, the beloved machine that I spent two years of my life helping engineer, is an incredible machine. Its off-road capabilities are incredible, its refinement compared to Wranglers of yore is significant, and I want one badly. But I learned during this honeymoon that I definitely do not want a 4xe, and I definitely don’t think the vehicle is worth $30 grand over my five-speed Jeep Grand Cherokee ZJ, which shares the same suspension and steering architecture, gets far-too-similar fuel economy, and is easier to wrench on.
So I’ll have to wait a while before JLs become cheap before I take the plunge. Until then, I’ll drive old Jeeps and my i3. If I ever go back to Hawaii, though, I’m getting a Wrangler again and enjoying that top-down goodness.
I just don’t understand… must be a Jeep thing
I was in Maui about 2 years ago. On the way back to the airport to return my rental Maxima, I saw a rental JL doing the death wobble to a really unsuspecting driver. I was glad I chose the Maxima.
It sounds like we had a very similar honeymoon! We spent 10 days on Kauai, rented a Mustang convertible (the other iconic Hawaii rental car), and stayed at the same hotel—though this was before its full renovation in 2018. What an amazing island, with incredible food and just the right amount of peace without too many tourists.
Hanalei had this restaurant AMA which was fantastic not sure if you made it there.
Either way, glad you enjoyed it.
While I need a Wrangler like I need a hole in the head, the reality *for me* is that 20 miles of EV range would cover the vast majority of my driving trips. I live in an area where 95% of what I need day-to-day is within about five miles of me. But the other 5% are far enough to make an actual EV sufficiently annoying that I simply wouldn’t. Trouble is, there aren’t any new cars I like enough to part with the money for anymore.
Seems like a silly vehicle to rent other than I am SURE Jeep is selling them to fleets for next to nothing to get rid of them.
Congrats again on getting hitched, looks like you had a good time. My one visit to Hawaii was right smack in the pandemic shutdown for work, and THAT was both lovely and a bit of an adventure. With a bit of post-apocalyptic essence to it as well. Imagine a big city with NOBODY in it…
On another note.
What do they feed shelter dogs there?
Because that poor female is definitely lacking a decent diet.
As my old man used to say, “someone feed that god damned dog.”
She likes animals.
He likes Jeeps.
Together, they use Jeeps to get closer to animals.
Congratulations!
God I miss Hawaii – one of the few overseas destinations I’d gladly revisit (again, I’ve been three times), despite all the other places I want to see.
Since a previous (now current again) administration enacted travel bans on certain nationalities, however, I don’t expect to be able to revisit as my wife comes from one of the blacklisted countries. A shame as I think she’d love it, and our little one would too.
How cute!! 😀
You are 100% correct that O’ahu is much busier and more densely populated than either Kauai or the Big Island. I lived on O’ahu for three years; that was a while ago but I suspect the population has not dropped significantly since then.
Did you happen to see the black sand beach on the Big Island? It’s pretty amazing. The volcano was erupting when I was there too, and there were road closures due to lava flowing across them on the way to the sea.
I see what you did there. The overlap of Autopian readers and Kawaii culture is probably pretty small. I only know about it because I was researching a trip to Japan.
“This car basically sucks, but I love it cause Jeep has brainwashed me into loving anything Jeep, I’ll buy one when a member sells me one for 2 dollars in 25 years and see if I can’t get the hybrid battery replaced free”
Beautiful honey moon, looks fantastic.
1. I really only like old Jeeps. The Wrangler is the only modern one I’d ever consider, and only when it’s cheap.
2. I don’t want the hybrid, I want the manual.
Eerily note I compared the Wrangler photos from the beginning to the end and I SEE RUST FORMING on the end vehicle. Actually I hear these rust like an Italian car. Typical DT. GLADyou had a great honeymoon hope the trip home goes great.
That looks like a great honeymoon David! Glad you had a great time.
“So I’ll have to wait a while before JLs become cheap before I take the plunge.”
But if I know you, the REAL reason you’re holding off on JLs is because they’re still all too new for there to be any rusty examples.
I had a 2018 JL Sport 3.6 8-spd for two years in my small Turo fleet, people loved that thing and having experienced all the Wrangler’s going back to the YJ it’s definitely the best one yet.
I am actually looking to pick up a 2025 Willys 2.0 8-spd soon for myself, it’s pretty much a Rubicon lite now only missing the front locker and transfer case. Doing a lot off-roading at high elevation I feel the 2.0 will be a bonus and people report up to mid-20’s mpg on the freeway.
“Turo fleet” has me very intrigued.
Just a couple questions if you don’t mind:
Is it lucrative?
And very roughly, where are you?
This was 5-7 years ago, it was lucrative but not crazy so. I am in LA and had 6 fun cars to rent (M2, GT350, Fiesta ST, Wrangler, Tacoma, and a Bentley Continental GT).
Nice. LA seems like a great place to do it with year round tourism. I would love to do somehing like that even if I didn’t make a fortune. It would be awesome to have access to so many cool cars. Probably wouldn’t work so well for me in Toronto though with our climate.
Thanks for the response.
Turo had plenty of options to choose from when I visited Toronto last summer. My wife and I picked a 10 yr old Mazda 3 and drove to Niagara Falls. Very good experience overall and I guess a FWD car could be usable year-round if you keep some winter tires for snow season.
A cheap car like the one we rented would be a good start point as Turo as quite generous with age and mileage.
It looks like TURO has a very healthy supply in cities across North America. I actually rented a new Civic in St. Johns last summer and it was great.
I just think with so much supply and low tourism through the colder months, you likely wouldn’t recoup your costs on a new vehicle. It would be a great way to help cover the cost of a new vehicle though.
I was wondering how you had a dog in Hi. I believe there is a 90 day quarantine to bring in any animals from the mainland. Fostering makes more sense!
Also the abundance of chickens and rooster are due to past Hurricanes destroying a a large chicken coop and they all got loose and roam freely.
After 2 years chickens stop laying eggs and are quite rangy. That’s why Highway Chickens are not eaten. You can boil them and make good soup.
Did that parking space you “made” happen to be at Ha’ena Beach on the far northwestern corner of Kauai? If so, I got my Camaro convertible rental stuck there and it cost me $700 to get it pulled out.
I went to the Big Island over Xmas, and Kilauea started erupting 2 days before we arrived, then paused on the day we could actually get over to Volcano, then started up again 2 days later. I got trolled by a volcano.
Separately I heard from a friend who is currently getting the high voltage battery pack in his 4Xe under warranty that they’re having like a 10% failure rate. Not good.
Yep, doing my best CSI enhancements on your photos and mine, I am 99% I got my Camaro rental (not a convertible as I first recalled) stuck in the exact same spot you parked in:
https://tinyurl.com/3f2v9pmz
I saw the open spot and decided I could park nose in as long as I didn’t go too far. But the moment I pulled into the spot I immediately saw how steep it looked and regretted my decision. Tried to back out and the rear tires just spun. No problem, I thought – below the parking spot was a flat area, so I figured I could drive the Camaro down and turn it around, then use some momentum to drive forward out of the spot. But as soon as I got to the bottom I found it was soft sand and the car was stuck. I did my best to dig it out, sacrificing the floor mats in the process, but ultimately I had to call a tow truck. I was thankful I could even do that since the the cell signal there was weak.
Thankfully the car had some cheapo generically floor mats, so on the way back to the airport I stopped by AutoZone, bought some new mats, and dragged them along the ground to give them “patina.” Good times.
https://tinyurl.com/ypkkd74b
Holy crap it’s literally the exact same spot; how?!
Amazing! To be fair the tow truck driver told me he’s retrieved many people from that spot, so at least I’m not the only idiot who attempted to park there. It looks like someone at least tried to block it with a cone in your photo.
I have a superpower where I can go somewhere once, even if only briefly, and then later see a photo of that spot and immediately rememeber where it was. That totally happened with your lead photo as soon as I saw the Hawaii plates, then confirmed reading the body of your story.
Also, congratulations! Very happy for you. I visited Hawaii for the first time as an adult on my honeymoon too. Before I went I thought it was cliche. Since then I’ve been there 3 more times, most recently the Big Island over Xmas.
The smile on your wife’s face when you two were canoeing says it all.
The moment you showed Kimchi, I completely forgot about the Jeeps and other things. She is so cute!
When you said you hiked to a “canyon”, I kept looking for a GMC pick-up in those pictures.
I feel this article deeply as I was in Kauai with a rental Wrangler (JK, 6 speed, pre Pentastar) this time last year.
Looks like a great time!
Shame they don’t have the 4xe sorted yet. It sounds really great on paper. I am sure they have the engineering talent, but much like GM, I’ll bet you a donut that they are hamstrung by the bean counters.
You aren’t wrong about the 4XE. The powertrain is extremely half baked.
And that’s really a shame.
Now hopefully the new V6 hybrid powertrain that is going in the RamCharger will be better.
Not the point of this article, (Looks like it was a great trip!) but every time I see E(NHRN) my brain reads Enron and I feel bad because she doesn’t deserve that.
Also, I look forward to the future articles where you frankenstein a clean/cheap 4xe rubicon with a junkyard 3.6 pentastar from a 2037 Journey (damn right they’re coming back) because the husk of stellantis just cant help itself and keeps cranking those out.
my changes it to Erin
I have a Masters of Accountancy. I empathize.