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Why Driving A Jeep Wrangler JL On My Honeymoon Made Me Want To Buy One. But Not Anytime Soon

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For years I’ve been going back-and-forth on whether I should buy a new Jeep Wrangler JL — the only vehicle I ever helped develop. How cool would it be to say “See this car I drive? I helped engineer it.” That’d be great; plus, it’s exactly the kind of machine I tend to love — a dual-solid-axle off-road beast. But I just rented two in Hawaii during my honeymoon, and now I’m glad I chose my BMW i3S instead. But I still want one.

I’ve been pretty much off the grid for the past 10 days thanks to a delightful honeymoon in Hawaii, a cluster of volcanic islands that it took me 33 years to visit. My overall impression: It’s not nearly as touristy as I feared, and in fact, in many ways it felt like an authentic, largely undisturbed natural wonder. Of course, I only visited Kauai and The Big Island, and I understand that Oʻahu is a bit busier. Still, I was impressed.

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You know what I wasn’t impressed by? Our rental car’s powertrain. Like every other tourist in Kauai, I drove a Wrangler:

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The one I chose was a 4xe, and I drove it the entire time in hybrid mode. That’s because the rental agency didn’t charge its 4xe plug-in hybrids, so the vehicles were all pretty much just running on gasoline. This is exactly what a lot of PHEV-detractors complain about: Too many people don’t actually plug their vehicles in.

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But I get it. In the case of the 4xe, the 22 mile EV range will only get you 1/3 the way around the small island; that tiny thimble of juice runs out quick, and it doesn’t help that not all hotels charge EVs overnight, so once you’re out, you’re out unless you want to make a charging stop…somewhere. And I don’t know about you, but on my vacation I’m not stopping to charge a car so I can get an extra 22 miles of EV range. Nope.

Anyway, the 4Xe is still a really enjoyable, open-top off-road vehicle, and the ultimate Hawaii rental. But that owes little to the powertrain, which is middling at best — especially once the tiny battery is empty. That 2.0-liter turbocharged GME-T4 under the hood is buzzy, and the way it jolts on when it fires up combines with all the buzzing and whining from the electric powertrain to yield a car that just feels unrefined and maybe even a bit half-baked.

The number of noises you hear from the 4xe — the electric power steering pump, the motor itself, the pedestrian protection, the engine itself — it’s a bit strange, and the often-abrupt power delivery when you roll onto the accelerator pedal didn’t help. Maybe it was somehow related to this being a rental car, but the 4Xe powertrain is just not the one I’d ever want. Yes, at $50,000 minus whatever EV incentives you qualify for, you could probably nab a Wrangler 4xe Sport S for not much more than a similarly-equipped 2.0-liter non-PHEV Wrangler four-door, and if you factor in the fuel savings, that might be the smart bet if you believe this 4Xe wont end up costing you in maintenance given all its complexity.

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For me, I’m sticking with a six-speed manual.

Anyway, after picking up the rental car, I drove us to this hotel, which looks just like one that might have a few velociraptors running through it:

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Speaking of, you remember this tree that the first-gen Ford Explorer landed in in that movie?:

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My wife Elise (not her real name) and I visited that tree! It’s the far one here:

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Behold:

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Apparently this is the root that was damaged during the car’s fall:

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To be clear, I will be buying a Jeep Wrangler JL at some point in my life; the easily-removable roof panels were amazing, there was tons of room, the ride quality isn’t really that horrible, and the off-road capability is prodigious. In fact, I used that off-road capabililty to get a parking spot that nobody else dared to even consider as an actual parking spot:

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Look at that articulation; easy.

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But last year I had a decision to make: Do I buy a Wrangler or a BMW i3S? Most would have figured I’d buy a Wrangler, since I am a Jeep man. But I chose the i3S; why?

The answer is simple: The BMW i3S offers something I cannot easily get in an older, cheaper vehicle (other than another i3). It’s a carbon fiber, modern-ish EV with a range extender. There’s nothing else like it.

But the Jeep Wrangler JL, if we’re being honest, isn’t that different than my Jeep Grand Cherokee 5-speed. It’s got the same suspension and ride similarly poorly, it’s got the same steering mechanical bits so it steers similarly poorly, it’s got a more complicated engine, its manual transmission isn’t as fun — it’s really not that much of an upgrade over an older vehicle.

The the reason for this is that the Jeep Wrangler JL has retained many of the traits that have made old Jeeps so great, and I do love that. I also can appreciate that the engine is more powerful and efficient and the structure is safer (though the vehicle is way, way heavier than my old Jeep), but because I can wrench on old vehicles, I just didn’t see the point in me spending $35 grand on a vehicle that is mechanically that similar to my other Jeeps. And what’s more, spending that much money on a vehicle that will only do about 20 MPG given California fuel costs also made very little sense to me.

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By now it should be clear that this post is really just an excuse to share a bit of my honeymoon with you, dear readers. But since we’ve gone this far, I may as keep typing. Here’s the last bit of car-talk before I just show you Hawaii pictures:

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It turns out, aqua is a culturally significant color in Kauai; I’m not entirely sure I understand the history (purple is the official color), but I saw tons of aqua-colored cars to the point where I had to look it up. It turns out, there is some meaning behind the color, and in fact, Behr has a paint color called Kauai:

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Anyway, check out this gorgeous canyon my wife Elise (not her real name) and I hiked to in Waimea Canyon State Park:

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That’s right here, in case you’re as familiar with Kauai as I was the day I arrived on the island:

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Check out this waterfall, which was an extremely anticlimactic end to a rather grueling, muddy hike:

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In Hawaii, chickens are everywhere, and they are rarely eaten (they’re considered friends, and some say the wild ones don’t taste great). This one walked with E(NHRN) and me for about a mile; a fellow hiker referred to these birds as “spirit guides”:

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On a subsequent day, E(NHRN) and I went Kayaking, where she rightfully chided me for my poor paddling form:

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This kayaking trip took us to the bottom of a 120 foot waterfall, which I swam under. According to legend, touching the back wall of a waterfall adds four years to one’s life, which might make up for a small portion of all that motor oil I had in my bloodstream pretty much constantly between 2015 and 2022.

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Later, we attended a Luau, which was thoroughly touristy but still fun:
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Then E(NHRN) decided we should foster a dog for a day, so we headed to the humane society and picked up Kimchi:

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Kimchi liked the Wrangler so much she urinated on the rear seat. (We tried cleaning it, but hopefully the rental company won’t bill us for that!). She also enjoyed the beach:

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(If you want to adopt a dog, Kimchi is available at the Kauai Humane Society; shipping to the mainland is only $200, it turns out — that’s not bad.).

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On the Big Island, E(NHRN) and I were also lucky enough to see Kīlauea have a bit of an eruption; I’d never seen a volcano before, so this was awesome.

Also awesome was the wildlife we saw on our honeymoon; we visited a botanical garden and saw lots of amazing plants and trees.

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We saw multiple sea turtles:

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The avian life was incredible:

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And how about this endangered Monk Seal? Apparently there are under 1,400 still in existence! This one seemed to be enjoying life:

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Anyway, let’s see if I can somehow bring this back to cars.

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The Jeep Wrangler JL, the beloved machine that I spent two years of my life helping engineer, is an incredible machine. Its off-road capabilities are incredible, its refinement compared to Wranglers of yore is significant, and I want one badly. But I learned during this honeymoon that I definitely do not want a 4xe, and I definitely don’t think the vehicle is worth $30 grand over my five-speed Jeep Grand Cherokee ZJ, which shares the same suspension and steering architecture, gets far-too-similar fuel economy, and is easier to wrench on.

So I’ll have to wait a while before JLs become cheap before I take the plunge. Until then, I’ll drive old Jeeps and my i3. If I ever go back to Hawaii, though, I’m getting a Wrangler again and enjoying that top-down goodness.

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Box Rocket
Box Rocket
15 days ago

Kaua’i is a great honeymoon destination, aside from the travel time to/from. Probably easier since you’re starting in LA, though. I also honeymooned there, and I recognize the hotel you were in (which we visited but didn’t stay in).

Didn’t do a luau, and also didn’t get the traditional necklace or Lei, which we were a bit disappointed by, but it wasn’t a big deal. Lots of beach time, not as much time doing inland things like the botanical garden or the canyon. Maybe next time.

We had a rental Mustang convertible, which was fun and worked well until I parked on some sand that was softer than it looked. I now know that if I drive a car with a removable roof again to close the top before trying to extricate oneself from offroad obstacles. This way the interior and wife do not get contaminated with stuff that’s usually part of the ground. ????

One of my cousins actually is part of a (the?) group that is working to rescue and repopulate monk seals on the islands. Neat to see results of their success.

Safe travels!

Steve Lee
Steve Lee
26 days ago

Hold on, you can essentially just rent a dog for the day?

Brockstar
Brockstar
30 days ago

Congrats on the Honeymoon! It looks like a well-deserved and fantastic getaway. Reading about your Wrangler JL adventures reminded me of my honeymoon and the path (or vehicle not taken). Being the cheap scoundrel that I can be, I was too cheap to rent a Wrangler while we were in St. Croix. I rented the cheapest thing I could find, a Nissan Versa sedan. We prove probably 75% of the island’s road network in this little car. This included a long, windy road to a hiking trail that we were both excited to try because it ended in some amazing tidepools. The “road,” or so it was called, got so narrow that branches scraped both sides of this car simultaneously as we traversed the path. We made it within 20 yards of the parking area and were stopped by a washout that was way too deep for the little car to clear. I got out and started looking for branches or other things to make a sort of ramp to make it down to the parking space. Luckily, I stopped to think about how bad of an idea this was and how expensive a tow up this road would be. We had to drive half a mile in reverse until the road widened enough that I could do an Austin Powers-like eleven-billion-point turn to get out of there. 

I’ll never forget going to one of the only still operational K-Marts in the world to buy polishing compound so I could buff out as many scratches as possible using a few pairs of socks while my wife packed for our trip home.

Do I regret not getting a Wrangler on that trip? Hell no! The stories and experiences we had because of that Versa will live with me forever. Will I rent a Wrangler the next time I visit St. Croix? Absolutely! I think I used up all of my luck and good fortune on that trip. 

Jalop Gold
Jalop Gold
28 days ago
Reply to  Brockstar

I remember back in the 90s a Pontiac Sunfire from the Wrent-a-wreck in christansted. It made it up the point udal road, but it wasn’t happy about it. The Isuzu amigo the next year was much better for that. Loved going to St. X!

Brockstar
Brockstar
27 days ago
Reply to  Jalop Gold

The drive out to point udal is beautiful even in a struggling subdue. I bet an Amigo would be perfect out there. I’ve never ridden in one but have always loved that they seemed like a more livable wrangler for their time. Also you should get back to the island. It’s still not super touristy and food is great and reasonably priced still.

Jalop Gold
Jalop Gold
20 days ago
Reply to  Brockstar

I really miss it. We every winter from 96-99 and haven’t been back since. Got married and my wife’s family likes the St. Thomas scene; I haven’t been able to get them over to the better island yet.

Dodsworth
Dodsworth
30 days ago

Kimchi(NHRN) seems to be enjoying the day. Nothing wrong with that Wrangler that a straight six wouldn’t fix.

Lardo
Lardo
30 days ago

Great pics. The one of the vine growing up the side of the tree? Looks a lot like what is used to wrap betel nuts in before it’s popped into the mouth. A popular pass time there among some local folks.

Strangek
Strangek
30 days ago

I too had a Wrangler 4xe as a rental recently. Didn’t care for it. It was cool looking and it was cool to be in, it’s a brand new Wrangler after all, but I hated interacting with that engine. Mine was similarly not charged, so I never experienced the full EV mode, but it just sucked to drive, and that made me kinda sad.

SAABstory
SAABstory
30 days ago

Congrats on the honeymoon. David, ENHRN will be happy to know your swimming under the waterfall probably cancelled out the effects of shower spaghetti. Good for the marriage.

Abe Froman
Abe Froman
30 days ago

I’m happy you enjoyed your Honeymoon in HI! Kauai is my favorite island, followed by the Big Island. Maui is nice, but I didn’t find it as beautiful and natural as the other two. And Oahu is…. fine.

Many years ago I worked for a cruise line and Island hopped for 5 months. One day the stars aligned and I had 6 free hours off board. I rented a JK, dropped the top and went to the exact trail you went on in Kauai. It poured rain as I drove back down to the airport rental facility and I returned the Jeep with about 1″ of water sloshing around the bottom. The return guy simply shrugged and let me go. I never received any excess charges because I assume it wasn’t the first time the Jeep had been filled with water.

PlatinumZJ
PlatinumZJ
1 month ago

My mom has a ’21 JL (automatic, Pentastar) that I get to drive frequently, and…both of us are very pleased with it? I’m wondering if I’m a terrible judge of vehicles or something. I definitely agree that it has a lot in common with the ZJ, which is probably why I enjoy it so much – it feels so familiar. (Personally, I think the steering wheel in the ZJ has much more play, even with a new damper.)

And no worries about the piddle incident; I once rented a 4Runner that had clearly been used to transport wet dogs. When I called the rental car company to make sure they knew I didn’t do it, an agent told me that the vehicle had a ‘history’ in their system, which apparently resulted in the 4Runner being bumped down a few notches – that’s why it was available, along with a smattering of meh cars, when my flight arrived well past my reservation time at a small airport. (They had done a good enough job cleaning that the smell didn’t hit you until the A/C had been running for a bit.)

MrAcoustics
MrAcoustics
1 month ago
Reply to  PlatinumZJ

No reason to doubt yourself, you just got the powertrain that drives the nicest in a JL. The manuals are garbage, and the 2.0L might have an on the paper torque advantage but just doesn’t drive as nice and sounds thrashy.

John Longenecker
John Longenecker
1 month ago

My first experience off-roading was on Lana’i last year in a JK Wrangler. I haven’t driven a JL to compare, but the island was great for a newbie because there was no one around, so I could take my time. I drove to and from a hiking spot (Kaunolu Village site area) and saw no one for 3 hours.

Farty McSprinkles
Farty McSprinkles
1 month ago

My experience with several generations of Wrangler (and predecessor models) have led me to the same conclusion. They are incredible vehicles as long as you never drive them on the road. Some of the most fun times I remember as a child was going off roading with my dad and his friend in an old jeep, but I have hated life any time I tried to drive one on the street.

JDE
JDE
1 month ago

After that first i3, I would have figured 22 miles was pretty normal for your Electric experience.

The big question I guess is does the 2.0 turbo in the manual wrangler not buzz around as well. Seems like it does, but maybe my experience is different. The 3.6 is only going to be around so long I imagine, and even it has plenty of things that could be improved on. But it seems to be buttery smooth by comparison.

Eric Beaudoin
Eric Beaudoin
1 month ago
Reply to  JDE

Just to clarify, the 2.0T was never offered with a manual transmission.

JDE
JDE
30 days ago
Reply to  Eric Beaudoin

I guess I did not know this. I knew the 4Xe lost the option, but it makes no sense to go full auto on the 2.0T. hell it actually make more sense to get that 7 speed from Ford and offer it on the the 2.0T variants.

Fuzzyweis
Fuzzyweis
1 month ago

I feel like the eTorque 2.0 turbo was a better option, and they dropped it after like 2 years, put etorque on the V6 and have the 4xe. But the 2.0 turbo mild hybrid got mid 20s for mpg and good performance. Not sure if they found issues with the 2.0, but can’t be as bad as the ones they’ve been having with the 4xe, and you could get it in a 2-door!

Kaiserserserser
Kaiserserserser
1 month ago

4xe owner here

On the one hand, you’re totally right about the engine. It makes noise like a dang diesel tractor engine.

On the counterpoint, you’re basically using the car in the worst situation possible with no charging and putting in decent miles touring around the island. When it’s got a full battery it’s really pretty great, silent/stealthy/smooth in electric mode and has some serious zip if you put the hammer down and let the gas and electric tag team your acceleration.

Counter-counterpoint, the rental agency probably hasn’t bothered to fix any of the many recalls involving the battery so it’s probably best not to charge it 🙂

ImissmyoldScout
ImissmyoldScout
1 month ago

The Mrs. and I go to Hawaii every year (20 years now) as she’s from Maui. We’ve visited the Big Island several times and have seen Kilauea glowing after dark, but never fountaining. Lucky for you guys! Visited Kaui once, Waimea canyon is cool. Did a Jeep on the Big Island, had a PT Cruiser on Kaui. Our rental the last trip over Christmas and New Years on Maui we had a Mercedes CLA250. Ping me if you want a “reader’s review” on it. I was…unimpressed. Glad you had a nice honeymoon there. If you ever go back, feel free to ping me for ideas of what to see.

JDE
JDE
1 month ago

You kind of need a Jeep for Maui too. the roads past Hana require it. and it is a good thing to go explore over there.

ImissmyoldScout
ImissmyoldScout
30 days ago
Reply to  JDE

The road around west Maui definitely needs it. I’ve done the trip to Hana and all the way around in a Charger.

No Kids, Just Bikes
No Kids, Just Bikes
1 month ago

When I visited my brother in Maui I rented a supercharged Mini convertible through Turo. I think that was probably the perfect Hawaii car. Easier to park and easier on gas and more fun on the fun roads. I was able to “make” the same parking spots. And it went topless with just a latch and button. Different strokes, I guess.

The long road around the island was fun enough that I looked into renting a supermoto bike, but as I am muy cabezón I didn’t think the offeror’s helmet would fit me.

JDE
JDE
1 month ago

I had a 4 cylinder basic jeep that seems to fit everywhere and yet was allowed on the roads past Hana. it was certainly slow, but the road to Hana is a long winder anyway, so it was not bad to take it slow anyway.

7Cincinnatus
7Cincinnatus
1 month ago

I’m going treat your wife-describing acronym like a Semitic language and just pop some vowels in wherever I’d like. In this case, it’ll be one “I” and one “O” to make her a unicorn, albeit auf Deutsch. Which I feel like is a solid way to describe a woman who knows engine-parts-in-the-dishwasher is one bad wrenching decision away and married you anyway

Nlpnt
Nlpnt
1 month ago
Reply to  7Cincinnatus

Einhorn probably works almost as well as Erin and better than Enron. I suppose if and when she and David get around to creating the conditions to bring back Will It Baby? there’ll be a discussion of David consistently talking to the kid auf Deutsch to raise a bilingual native speaker.

Freddy Bartholomew
Freddy Bartholomew
1 month ago

My wife was born and raised on Maui. I was born on another island starting with the letter ‘M.’ Yup, Manhattan. She remembers driving old military Jeeps (no doors, no roof) out to Makena to go fishing before there were any roads past Kihei. When she was growing up and lived in up-country around Makawao (2,000 ft elevation), she could tell if her family were at home because she could see the one house-light from down in Kahului (nominally sea level). Lots of stories of driving through cane fields at night and surfing around Lahaina (RIP). Enormous changes, even since I met her about 40 years ago.

Robot Turds
Robot Turds
1 month ago

We rented a Wrangler in Hawaii too. That had to be one of, if not the most miserable vehicle. It was like trying to drive while looking out of a pillbox. The accelerator had an annoying delay. Of course it also handles awful- which was to be expected. I could not imagine owning one of these things.

Ash78
Ash78
1 month ago
Reply to  Robot Turds

My daughter (11) has been fascinated by Wranglers for years, so we finally hit up Carmax a few months ago to drive one. I chose the 6MT because I figured if you’re going with a non-mainstream car, at least get the full experience.

30 minutes later, almost in tears, I had to give her a life lesson on “Don’t meet your heroes.”

(Honestly, worse manny tranny I’ve drive in a car since the 80s)

Robot Turds
Robot Turds
1 month ago
Reply to  Ash78

I cam away thinking they had done their best to “Modernize” an ancient drivetrain. Now- if it was like my friend’s old 90’s Wrangler which was more simple and still clearly a Jeep and very agrarian then that’s sort of ok. But the new Jeeps? Sorry. Its still an ancient vehicle that doesn’t get much better with modern crap piled on top.

Xt6wagon
Xt6wagon
1 month ago
Reply to  Robot Turds

Last I drove a tractor it was semi automatic and that’s as cheap as you can get. So a wet clutch to start and done. So it’s behind agricultural.

MrAcoustics
MrAcoustics
1 month ago
Reply to  Ash78

Not sure if you drove a JL or older JK. But for the JL, I have stated on this site and the jello picnic site numerous times the manual sucks super hard and the 8spd is the only way to enjoy the modern wrangler. 8spd with the pentastar is a solid performer. Not fast but does everything you need without much complaint. This coming from a guy with 4 cars that are all manuals.

Ash78
Ash78
1 month ago

You want to know what’s worse than an uncharged Wrangler 4xe?

An uncharged Grand Cherokee 4xe (ideally in Overland or Summit trims).

Because you put your foot down in a $75k luxury SUV and hear the sound of a crackhead under the hood, shaking his coffee can full of loose change. But now imagine he follows you around all day, every day, until you’re charged up again.

(to be fair, I had to put the GC in recharge mode just so I could feel the combined power toward the end of my trip. It was pretty intense….like, more than the chassis wanted to handle except in a straight line.)

Wagen Volk
Wagen Volk
1 month ago

Thanks for sharing DT and all the best for your wedding!

Rippstik
Rippstik
1 month ago

Even the dog tried to warn you of the piss poor quality of the 4xe, the only way they could.

B3n
B3n
1 month ago

I rented a non-PHEV JL with the 2.0 turbo.
It does indeed make a lot of strange and whining, whirring, unpleasant noises. Somehow that drivetrain feels out-of-place in the JL.
It has a big torque lag when the hybrid assist battery runs low. I also think it’s not building significant boost in 4LO, possibly to protect the driveline.
But I still loved that thing, it was very good off-road even on stock Sahara street tires.
Jeep people seem to focus on the Rubicon with the front and rear lockers but the BLD on the lower models is really good as well.
The bad part is it rattled, squeaked, and generally it didn’t feel like something that’ll be around in one piece for a long time.
Which would be acceptable if they were still as cheap as the CJs in the 60-70’s, but they aren’t.
As for buying one, it would be a big compromise for a daily, but too expensive for me as a weekend car.

TurboFarts
TurboFarts
1 month ago

Rented a JL w/ 3.6 v6 while visiting Kuaii. Amazing place, perfect vehicle for the trip. Glad you had what sounds like as amazing of a time as I did!

The 4xe is a piss poor execution of PHEV. Seems like more of a compliance vehicle than something they took seriously. “We have a PHEV too!”

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MrAcoustics
MrAcoustics
1 month ago
Reply to  TurboFarts

Yep, had a auto V6 Rubicon in the Virgin Islands for a week and it was great. 4 adults and all of our stuff driving through the mountains and down random roads exploring beaches. I have driven the 2.0L around home and yeah, HP and Tq numbers on paper be damned, give me the NA v6.

Xt6wagon
Xt6wagon
1 month ago
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