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How Ford ‘Fixed’ A Deadly Problem With A Sticker To Dodge The Biggest Recall In History

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Twenty-three million vehicles. Even today, that would be enough to give Ford the unenviable title of having one of the worst automotive recalls of all time. Back in the early 1980s, though, this would have been the biggest recall in history, though somehow Ford managed to dodge this such a bullet for the price of a few measly stickers.

Jump back to the 1960s. The automatic transmission was becoming increasingly popular, and column shifters were all the rage. All you had to do was reach behind the wheel to slot the gearbox into park, reverse, or drive. They offered great convenience and plenty of extra room in the cabin compared to floor shifters, and were pretty much the standard across a great number of normal, non-sporty models from the Big Three automakers.

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Ford loved the column shifter as much as anybody else, but there was a problem. A significant number of owners were pulling up and parking their cars, only to see them rolling away moments later. Injuries would mount, fatalities too—and eventually, Ford would have to face some kind of music.

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Ford’s automatics had a serious problem.

Park It, Hard

Shifting the transmission into Park is often enough to keep the vehicle from rolling away. That’s because there’s a little pawl in the transmission that locks the drivetrain in place, stopping the wheels from turning. However, the parking pawl wasn’t historically intended to fully hold the vehicle on its own, especially on a slope. As explained by AAMCO Transmissions, the parking brake should always be applied. “Unfortunately today many drivers to get to their parking space, put the car in park, and go about their day, [and] this puts an unnecessary strain on the transmission, especially on an incline,” notes the company. Regardless, automatic vehicle drivers have come to just rely on shifting into Park to hold a vehicle in place, because in most cases, the parking pawl does a good enough job. (And many modern cars will automatically apply the electric park brake when in park. -DT].

This behavior become a problem for Ford. Starting with models built in the mid-1960s, the company’s automatic transmissions would sometimes be found to go into Reverse when they were meant to be in Park. Owners would pull to a stop, shift into Park, and exit the vehicle. Under these conditions, a dangerous mishap could occur. “The alleged problem with the transmissions is that a safety defect permits them to slip accidentally from park to reverse,” noted the Center for Automotive Safety. If this happened while the vehicle was switched off, it would perhaps roll away if parked on a slope. If the vehicle was left running, the vehicle could accelerate at speed, backwards, potentially hitting somebody or something.

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Column shifters offered the benefit of greater space in the cabin, and were widely used in the 1960s and 1970s. Credit: Ford
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It was at times possible to place the shifter in a non-locked position while having it still appear to be in Park. Credit: Ford

This sounds like a big problem with a high potential to cause injuries or even death. Thus, you might think that Ford quickly tackled this with an engineering fix and everything was sorted. But that wasn’t the case.

Part of the issue was that it took some time before Ford became aware of the problem. When 1971 rolled around, complaints were trickling in. As covered by Fordification, with millions of automatic Fords on the road, the company identified 40 reports made from 1968 to 1971. Ford engineers were looking at the problem by this point, but largely put it down to user error. It was possible to mis-position the shift lever somewhere between the proper Park and Reverse positions, and in these cases, it was easy for the shifter to then slip into Reverse.

At this time, Ford’s owners manuals started to included stricter instructions that drivers should always use the parking brake. Those instructions reminded owners to ensure the shifter had been pushed as far as possible in the counter-clockwise direction to lock it into Park, and to never leave the vehicle running when unattended.

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Ford’s owner’s manuals asked owners to ensure they’d properly placed the vehicle in park, and to always use the parking brake. Credit: Ford truck owner’s manual, 1978
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Earlier manuals didn’t always include the same level of specificity about how important it was to use the parking brake, as seen in this 1970 Ford Maverick owner’s manual. Credit: Ford

In reality, the problem was that it was just easy to misplace the shifter such that it appeared to be in Park without fully being engaged. In this condition, it was quite easy for the transmission to slip from Park to Reverse, and if the parking brake wasn’t engaged, this could be a significant problem. In the case of Ford Motor Co. v. Nowak, expert witness Walter Reed testified on how easily this could happen. As covered in records of the judge’s opinion on the case, Reed claimed that simple engine vibration or slamming a door were enough to knock an FMX transmission from a misplaced Park position into Reverse. Meanwhile, the judge also noted testimony from Ford’s engineer about the transmission behavior:

One of Ford’s engineers, Mr. King, testified as follows regarding the design of the FMX transmission: When the entire transmission system was connected, the Ford and GM transmissions were comparable. If one placed the lever in Park, it would stay there; however, if it was not put all the way into Park, it could move either to Park or Reverse because there was nothing to restrain it. Engine vibration or slamming the door could cause it to move either to Park or Reverse.

When the lever in the FMX transmission is left on the gatepost [between Park and Reverse], the design is such that both the gravity of the linkage and the design of the roostercomb are trying to shift the car into Reverse. When King tapped the lever on a Ford five or six times, it would drop into Reverse, and the back-up lights would come on.

The issue could also be exacerbated by wear. In Ford’s column shifters, a small metal lockout plate was used to hold the shifter in Park. To shift out of Park and into Reverse, one was supposed to pull the shifter towards themselves before sliding it sideways to change gear. However, the detent in the lockout plate can wear over time, as many owners have found. As it rounds off, it became easier for the shifter to be misplaced and slide from P to R.

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By 1977, the matter came to the attention of NHTSA. This was thanks to the lobbying efforts of the Center for Automotive Safety (CAS), the non-profit advocacy group founded by Ralph Nader. The group began petitioning NHTSA based on reports from owners of Fords built from 1966 onwards, featuring the C6 and FMX automatic transmissions. These covered a wide range of Ford vehicles, like the Torino, Fairlane, Bronco, and Mustang. Initially, there was little action by the federal agency, and the group renewed its demand for a recall a year later, armed with evidence of 100 alleged accidents and 12 alleged deaths associated with the park-to-reverse issue.

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A diagram of the Ford column shifter assembly and steering column. Credit: Ford
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Highlighted in yellow are the column shifter and the detent plate, responsible for keeping the shifter in Park. Credit: Ford

In late 1978, NHTSA issued a “consumer advisory” warning instructing owners of affected Fords to never leave their vehicles unattended with the engine running. However, the agency officially denied a recall for the matter. Regardless, an investigation was begun to understand the depth of the issue. An engineering study was undertaken by NHTSA, though the reports have been lost to time. According to The Center of Auto Safety, though, which was lobbying hard for action on the matter, the results were damning:

The following month NHTSA conducted an investigation to find out if complaints against Ford transmissions were disproportionately higher than those against other manufacturers or whether the problem was common for all automatic transmissions. The study revealed, contrary to Ford’s contentions, that Ford transmissions were 12 times more likely than General Motors’ and 14 times more likely than Chryslers’ to jump from park-to-reverse when jarred.

As later reported by the Government Accountability Office:

The definitions used by NHTSA do not exclude the possibility that so called “human factors” were involved in the accidents that have been reported. However, in NHTSA’s only official engineering study of inadvertent vehicle movement, the agency typified Ford’s 1970-1979 C3, C4, C6, FMX, and JATCO transmissions as “unforgiving” of driver error when shifting into park. The 1980 ODI investigative report said the designs of other manufacturers are likely more tolerant of mechanical imperfections and human frailties than these five Ford transmissions because the forces in other transmissions tend to push them in the direction of Park rather than away from Park and into Reverse. Thus the 1980 report states that the phenomenon of inadvertent vehicle movement seems to result from a combination of design problems and human factors.

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GM and Chrysler also used column shift autos, as per this 1970 Chevy pickup. However, NHTSA testing found they were less likely to suffer this issue, and more likely to bounce into Park than Reverse if the shifter was misplaced, as per the GAO quote above. Credit: GM

As time went on, the problem became yet more prominent.  By 1980, NHTSA had become aware that the issue was impacting Fords built with C3, C4, C6, FMX, and JATCO transmissions built at various times from 1966 to 1979, as covered by the Center for Automotive Safety (CAS). If you had a Ford car or truck with an automatic transmission, there was a solid chance it was at risk of this problem. The issue affected Mercury and Lincoln, too. At this point, CAS had recorded a total of 88 deaths, and it continued to pressure NHTSA to act. The agency also sourced a leaked internal memo from Ford, which explained how the shifter could be misplaced despite the indicator suggesting that the transmission was actually in Park.

In late 1979, Ford finally made an engineering change to solve the problem. As reported by The Boston GlobeFord officials stated the redesign “will make transmission shift lever placements between Park and Reverse somewhat more difficult.” The aim was to eliminate the risk of drivers not fully seating the vehicle in Park, which was what made it easier for the transmission to slip into reverse.

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A new column shift collar detent plate, as sold by North East Classic Ford Parts.
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An old, damaged detent plate installed in a column shift collar. These can break, round off, or the bolts can loosen, making it easier for the shifter to slip from Park to Reverse. Credit: North East Classic Ford Parts
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Replacing the detent plate can increase the likelihood the transmission will remain in park. “IF YOUR SHIFTER POPS OUT OF PARK OR WILL SHIFT INTO REVERSE WITHOUT YOU PULLING BACK ON THE SHIFTER THIS IS TYPICALLY THE PROBLEM!” reads the sale page. Credit: North East Classic Ford Parts

The numbers were stacking up against Ford. Media coverage across the country was suggesting that the company had known about the problem since 1972 and failed to act. Things seemed likely to tip against the company come August 1980, when NHTSA Administrator Joan Claybrook recommended that Ford recall a full 10 million vehicles to remedy the issue, with the memo preserved in legal records concerning the Center for Auto Safety:

Subject to your approval I intend to make a final determination that all 1970-1979 Ford vehicles equipped with FMX, C-3 and C-4 automatic transmissions contain a defect which relates to motor vehicle safety and to order Ford Motor Company to remedy its 1973-1979 vehicles equipped with these transmissions, as required by the Traffic Safety Act. Approximately ten million vehicles in service would be affected by this order. If this recall follows prior patterns, approximately half of these vehicles will actually receive the necessary repair.

Per The Washington Post, the estimated cost to Ford was $130 million, equal to $500 million in 2025 dollars. This would have instantly become the biggest recall of all time, though eventually it would have been eclipsed by the Takata airbag recalls of the last decade, which has covered approximately 63 million vehicles worldwide.

And yet, Ford managed to dodge the costly recall, saving it millions amidst a challenging time for the US auto industry. As reported by The Washington Post in 1981, Transportation Secretary Neil Goldschmidt would overrule the decision, allowing Ford to instead pursue a far cheaper solution. Goldschmidt’s reasoning was that the Michigan automaker simply couldn’t afford a recall at a time when the Big Three were already losing billions as the Malaise Era raged on. As per UPIFord had already lost $1.5 billion in 1980 due to difficult trading conditions, which was then a record for US-based corporation. With the Department of Transportation overruling NHTSA, Ford hoped to save millions.

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The sticker campaign affected the vast majority of automatic Fords built from 1966 to 1979. This 1971 Ford F100 is a great example, currently for sale at Classic Ford Broncos.
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It was entirely up to owners to choose whether or not to put the sticker on the dash. Credit: Classic Ford Broncos
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You can purchase replacement decals today if you want your classic Ford to have that authentic Malaise Era feel. Credit: Autoware

Instead of a recall, Ford would mail out stickers to owners of all affected vehicles—23 million in total.  Owners were instructed to place these stickers in a prominent position on the dashboard, sun visor, steering wheel, or driver’s door.  The stickers instructed the driver to always ensure the gear selector was fully engaged in the Park position, and to set the parking brake fully and turn off the ignition prior to leaving the driver’s seat.

The stickers got Ford off the hook. As covered by The New York Times in 1983, NHTSA considered the mailout program to be effective. The agency provided statistics that showed deaths from Ford’s transmissions issue had declined from 1.5 deaths per month prior to December 1980, down to 0.9 deaths per month over a period ending January 1983.

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The Center for Auto Safety (CAS) continued to lobby NHTSA to force a recall for several years, but to no avail. As the agency itself explains, petitions were submitted to NHTSA to reopen the case in 1981 and 1982, but were repeatedly denied. Similarly, CAS made a direct appeal to Ford to execute a voluntary recall, which fell on deaf ears. By 1985, deaths reported by the Government Accountability Office stood at 446 fatalities. At this time, CAS appealed to NHTSA once more to reopen the case. Regardless, in July that same year, NHTSA announced that it refused to revisit the issue or take any further action.

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Fatality figures continued to tick up even after Ford issued its sticker campaign. Credit: GAO

Meanwhile, news outlets continued to report that Ford had apparently been aware of a redesign that would solve the problem as early as 1972—for the cost of just 3 cents per vehicle, according to lawyers suing Ford, as reported by The New York Times. Covering this widely reported story, the outlet also spoke to a Ford engineer who claimed to have created a solution of his own at a cost of $10 per vehicle. This was a sizable sum in an era when new Fords retailed for just a few thousand dollars. George Morris worked at Ford until 1980, and had discussed his device with executives, who ultimately passed on the idea. From the New York Times:

Mr. Morris, who retired from Ford in 1980 after 24 years of service, said he was present at a meeting early last year when Ford executives discussed his device, which he developed after his retirement while working as a consultant to Ford.

At that meeting, he said, an official in the company’s vehicle safety department said, ”We really don’t need this. Our problem is that people just don’t put the lever all the way into park.”

Mr. Morris said he responded, ”If people just don’t put it into park, why do we have these tremendous settlements in and out of court?”

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Ford’s letter to owners, as part of the sticker campaign. Credit: Ford via GAO report

Assessing the issue in 1985, the Government Accountability Office noted that NHTSA had initially found a safety issue. Regardless, the agency stopped short of outright making a determination that there was a defect. It also criticised NHTSA for its weak analysis on whether the sticker mailout campaign was working. From the agency’s report:

NHTSA conducted an extensive 3-year investigation into the so-called “park-to-reverse” problem in Fords and made an initial determination in June 1980 that a safety-related defect existed. It did not make a final determination of a safety defect and order a vehicle recall but, rather, referred its recommendations to the Secretary of Transportation. Without accepting or rejecting the initial determination, the Secretary negotiated a settlement with Ford. Under the settlement, Ford agreed to mail letters and reminder labels to over 22 million vehicle owners to encourage them to use proper parking procedures before exiting their vehicles. In the letter to Ford accepting the settlement, DOT stated its belief that Ford’s actions would be likely to significantly reduce the occurrence of fatalities and other incidents related to inadvertent vehicle movement.

GAO found that NHTSA has not performed the statistical analysis necessary to measure the settlement’s effectiveness. Also, GAO found that while the incident data showed a decline in the rate of incidents since the settlement, the fatality data showed no overall decline in the rate of fatalities over the same period.

Ford might have hoped to save money by not making physical changes the affected vehicles, but it still ended up paying a hefty cost. A stream of over 1,000 lawsuits from affected owners ran through the courts, with Ford paying out hefty damages in some cases and settling in others. One jury verdict alone awarded a victim’s family $4.4 million, including $4 million in punitive damages, after a woman was run over by her runway Ford and killed, as per The New York Times. In another tragic case covered by the Times, Ford settled for $2 million with a family whose father was killed when he tried to stop his parked Ford from rolling down the driveway. According to the Center for Automotive Safety, Ford would eventually file documents with the Securities and Exchange Commission that indicated it spent over $1.7 billion on lawsuits relating to the park-to-reverse matter.

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By the mid-1980s, Ford had solved the problem and hoped to leave the ugly memories behind. Credit: Ford

Ultimately, Ford figured out how to build transmissions and shifters that wouldn’t pop out of Park and into Reverse. As reported in the Boston Globe, tweaks made to the design ensured it was much harder to accidentally position the shifter in between Park and Reverse. When fully latched into Park, the shifter would stay there, and the Park-to-Reverse problem was solved.

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According to the Government Accountability Office (GAO), Ford made these changes to create a “more pronounced” shift feel. However, the GAO noted that NHTSA considered that they were made to rectify an actual defect. As per the agency’s report:

In 1980 Ford made several design changes to its automatic transmissions that it said were design refinements intended to make shift-lever move- ment “more pronounced,” it said, in order to help drivers notice when they fail to complete a shift into park. NHTSA, however, in its 1980 ODI investigative report, said these changes were intended to correct a defective design in the earlier transmissions and not merely added as a driver aid.

Although we did not attempt any engineering analysis of the design changes, we did review the comparative numbers of fatal acci- dent reports on file at NHTSA for 1970-79 model year Fords versus l981- 84 model year Fords.5 As of June 27, 1985, NHTSA had on file 259 fatality cases involving 1970- 79 model year Fords that had been judged to be either “yes” or “pos- sible” inadvertent vehicle movement fatalities. Only four cases had been reported and counted as “yes” or “possible” on 1981-84 Fords. When the total numbers of vehicles produced for these two sets of model years are factored in, the reported fatality rate for 1970-79 Fords is greater than the rate for 1981-84 Fords.

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Statistics from 1970 to 1979 indicated that Ford was an outlier compared to its rivals. Credit: GAO report
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The GAO also criticized NHTSA for not doing more to verify the performance of the sticker campaign. Credit: GAO report

Ford continued to insist that the issue was due to drivers failing to fully place their vehicles in Park, and that other makes had similar issues. [Ed Note: I had this same issue with my 1986 Jeep Grand Wagoneer, which featured a Saginaw Steering column shared with many General Motors cars. So column-shift issues in general definitely weren’t specific to Ford. -DT].  In 1986, Ford provided comment to the Government Accountability Office on the matter. Notable extracts include:

-The Canadian Ministry of Transport conducted an investigation of Ford’s automatic transmissions parallel to NHTSA’s. Its principle investigating contractor concluded “It is not believed that a vehicle in proper mechanical condition would jump from Park to Reverse after properly being placed in Park. It appears in almost all reported incidents, the transmission was not fully shifted into Park.”

-A report prepared by NHTSA’s test facility concluded that when the shift selector was in the Park position, no amount of door slamming, vehicle bouncing, or steering wheel shock, caused the gear selector to jump into reverse.”

-As in all automatic transmission-equipped vehicles, if a Ford shift lever is placed in the Park position, it cannot come out unless moved by the driver. In short, it is now widely accepted that unexpected vehicle movement may occur only when a driver fails to place a vehicle in the Park position in the first place and then compounds this error by failing to turn off the engine and apply the parking brake.

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On Ford’s later column shifters, it’s much harder to accidentally misplace the shifter between P and R. Credit: Ford

While the official position was that there was no defect, Ford had still seen fit to make the aforementioned changes to its vehicles from the 1980 model year onwards. As much as it blamed drivers for misplacing their shifters not entirely in Park, it was still able to help solve the issue going forward by making it harder to misshift between Park and Reverse.

The fleet of affected vehicles slowly dwindled by natural attrition, and the automotive world moved on. Still, the issue lingers on, now solely in the classic car world. Posts from forum users driving old Ford cars and trucks can be found reporting on this issue to this day.

It’s a sad tale of a serious issue that Ford quite literally stuck a band-aid over.

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Image credits: Ford, North East Classic Ford Parts

 

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Knowonelse
Knowonelse
1 day ago

My ’64 F100 coach-built crewcab has the 292 V8 and the Fordomatic transmission as specified by the first owner (dad was the second). I had to work on the shift column to replace the shift collar awhile back. While that part is working fine (although using a steel pin to hold into the pot metal housing isn’t the long-term solution it should have been), the whole column wiggles about just a bit when driving, so something isn’t quite right. Whenever I shift into Park, I hesitate and keep my foot on the brake pedal to be sure that it hasn’t popped out into Reverse, and always pull the pakring brake. The indicator is kinda not aligned with the shift arm indicator, so never quite sure things are where they are supposed to be.

1978fiatspyderfan
1978fiatspyderfan
1 day ago

Had a coworker with one of these we both worked at a Morrisons Cafeteria in Tallahassee FL. He came in at 6am when the mall parking lot was empty. Worked his 8 went out at 2pm. Truck was gone. Reported the theft to the crack TPD. He gets a rental 4 days go bye and finally a cop checking out the parking lot at 3 am when everyone is gone noticed a pickup parked and ran the plates. Yep he failed to put it in park, it rolled a few lanes over, came to a stop against a light pole perfectly parked.

1978fiatspyderfan
1978fiatspyderfan
1 day ago

A very interesting article. I can only assume NITSA head was open to bribes. Clearly paid off. I don’t understand why a company would not make a simple design change as part of a redesign and just say in the interest of an abundance of caution we made it so even an idiot can’t screw it up. And maybe a sticker saying in the event of a roll away do not attempt to throw yourself in front of the vehicle to stop it.

Fuzzyweis
Fuzzyweis
1 day ago

I think the the automatics on the Fords we’ve had, mainly trucks with column shift, have less slack to the pawl/catch than our GMs, maybe that’s intentional though as on my Bolt I use the parking brake every time as there’s so much slack even on nearly flat surfaces it rolls quite a bit with just the pawl. Our Ford does a little but not nearly as dramatic. I have a video from a high school project of me pulling up in a lot with a slight slope in my 86 Celebrity and parking and the amount the car rocked forward when I let off the brake was crazy.

Nlpnt
Nlpnt
1 hour ago
Reply to  Fuzzyweis

I have to assume a parking pawl in an EV is an entirely different thing, probably more like a redundant second parking brake.

Fuzzyweis
Fuzzyweis
1 hour ago
Reply to  Nlpnt

No many EVs actually have a parking pawl in their gear reduction box, Tesla’s don’t, but our Ranger/Bolt/Prologue all do, and they all got a little roll after parking if you don’t put the brake on.

Jdoubledub
Jdoubledub
1 day ago

CVT on my Outback is a pain to shift out of park if I rely on the parking pawl so I always engage the parking brake before shifting to park so the brakes do the holding and not the pawl. Night and day difference on how easy it is to shift.

Jack Trade
Jack Trade
1 day ago

Obviously not the best (or really even a) solution to the problem here, but I’ve always enjoyed Ford’s penchant for these sorts of stickers.

The legendary Fairlane Thunderbolts of the ’60s had ones informing the driver that since these were purpose-built, experimental cars, they might notice the fit and finish was terrible. Or the Shelby Mustangs with their warning that competition brakes means they have to warm up before they really work.

Hugh Crawford
Hugh Crawford
1 day ago

Why I despise automatic transmissions.

This, and having to come to a complete stop and shift to park to start the engine if it stalls. Or being able to stall the engine while the car is moving in the first place.

Manual boxes may pop out of gear, but they never ever go into gear unexpectedly. At least not with the engine running.

Anonymous Person
Anonymous Person
1 day ago
Reply to  Hugh Crawford

I haven’t tried it with really new vehicles, and I, too prefer manuals, but most of the automatic equipped vehicles I’ve driven could be started if the shifter was in Neutral even if it was moving at the time. I didn’t need to come to a complete stop and put it in Park. But these were mostly GM vehicles, IIRC.

Hugh Crawford
Hugh Crawford
20 hours ago

A recent Volvo wouldn’t restart while moving until I bypassed an interlock of some kind. Junked the car because it would periodically freak out, and getting an ECU reprogrammed, to get things straightened out, then getting it reprogrammed again if I had to replace anything was not worth it. The car was totaled by mice.

The planned obsolescence masquerading as “anti-theft” measures has turned me off from any Volvo from this century.

I have a dead $4000 Canon printer that won’t allow you to repair it with parts that aren’t programmed with the same serial number. I’m never buying one of those again either.

Dudeoutwest
Dudeoutwest
1 day ago

We had a 1969 Ford Ranch Wagon with a 302 and the above mentioned transmission. In 1975, my mom parked it in the garage and put it in Park. A bit later, it rolled right out of the driveway and over an embankment, planting the driver’s side rear of the car against a unfazed oak tree.

It bent the frame behind the rear wheel, but didn’t break any glass. The tailgate opened and closed fine, as did the doors. So we drove it for a few years. I learned to drive in it, and took a driver’s test in it.

We called it The Bentley. Later, we sank it in the Chattahoochee River one summer evening launching a boat. We pulled it out the next morning, cleaned it up – a bit – and I took my Georgia driver’s license exam in it. It still had some mud on the seats and seaweed in the way back. The examiner was kind and told me “Good luck with your submarine” after he passed me.

1978fiatspyderfan
1978fiatspyderfan
1 day ago
Reply to  Dudeoutwest

Thanks for the laugh

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
8 hours ago
Reply to  Dudeoutwest

Is this why you moved out West?

1978fiatspyderfan
1978fiatspyderfan
2 hours ago
Reply to  Cheap Bastard

Interesting fact if you live in Arizona around the desert you can get your car sandblasting for free just drive out in the desert during a sandstorm

TOSSABL
TOSSABL
3 hours ago
Reply to  Dudeoutwest

Did you rename it after the inadvertent bottom-berthing?
Maybe to The S(t)inker?

Last edited 3 hours ago by TOSSABL
Griznant
Griznant
1 day ago

The column shifted C4 in my ’65 Falcon is a bit “vague” on the park/reverse selection. I replaced the detent plate, but it’s still not quite crisp in engagement. I can fully understand how people could easily miss it being truly in park and exit the vehicle. It’s a poor design.

GoesLikeHell
GoesLikeHell
1 day ago

I was pinned behind a Mercury Cougar due to it moving from park to reverse. Fortunately, the car behind it was at an angle where it’s front tire took the impact allowing me to squeeze out without anything more than a few bruises.

I was working at a quick lube in high school and we typically pulled cars out and parked them in front of the door, usually running during colder weather. I had just jumped out of the Mercury when a customer pulled up behind it and I ran over to greet them and get their car into the shop. I heard a clicking and looked over to see the Mercury moving backwards slowly. My instinct was to use my body to try and stop it from “rolling” into the other customer’s car. Turns it out was not just rolling, and a 130lb kid wasn’t going to stop it. In hindsight I risked my life way too often for $3.25 an hour.

Canyonsvo
Canyonsvo
1 day ago

If you own a Fusion from around 2016 you might have the fun coupler fail and your car will either not shift into gear or… roll down a hill and crash into something. I experienced both.

Sam Morse
Sam Morse
20 hours ago
Reply to  Canyonsvo

It became a fad to release parked cars and roll them down hills.
People have often blamed themselves for what was deliberate vandalism.

LTDScott
LTDScott
1 day ago

Have seen plenty of these decals in the junkyard over the years but didn’t know the full story until now.

The ’85/’86 Mustang you show here would not have been affected, as a column shifter was never offered on any Fox platform Mustang.

Dodsworth
Dodsworth
1 day ago

On early 1960s GM cars you had to pull the shifter all the way to the bottom to engage reverse. I thought this was a better choice, but time has proven me wrong, I guess. Also, I’m one of those nerds that always sets the parking brake.

Robert M. Graham
Robert M. Graham
1 day ago
Reply to  Dodsworth

I’ve always used my parking brake, no matter where I park. Drives me crazy that people call it an “e-brake” as that’s just a secondary function. If you don’t use a cable operated parking brake, eventually it won’t work and you won’t even have an “e-brake”.

Dr Funkhole
Dr Funkhole
1 day ago

My family had a 1977 Ford LTD wagon that had this issue when it was still only about a year old. The car slipped into reverse from park and backed itself and a boat trailer down a boat ramp and into a lake, executing a neat 90-degree turn in the process. Standing on a nearby dock, I was able to grab it by the roof rack to keep it from floating (yes, it did float—briefly) any further out into the water.

Grey alien in a beige sedan
Grey alien in a beige sedan
1 day ago

My uncle placed his sticker on the undercarriage. Thereby he could state with full confidence “Flip Over Read Directions”

Tondeleo Jones
Tondeleo Jones
1 day ago

My first car was a clapped out ’62 Olds F85 Cutlass with an aluminum bock V8 and an auto trans. The shift quadrant was P-N-D-S-L-R. Even then it seemed wrong to drop the lever all the way to the right to find the “backup” gear.

6thtimearound
6thtimearound
1 day ago

Where do I buy that sticker? I want to put it in my new Maverick just for the hell of it.

SYKO Simmons
SYKO Simmons
1 day ago

LoL my 2 speed cruiseOmatic trans in my 59 Edsel does whatever the hell it wants.. you want park? Nah how about false neutral ….drive? Think again let’s go backwards right now…. Park? May lunch be ever in your favor.

Fun fact…..I drive it as a daily! LOOK OUT EVERYONE!

Griznant
Griznant
1 day ago
Reply to  SYKO Simmons

A ’59, so you don’t have “Teletouch”, eh? I bet that thing would make life even more exciting!

SYKO Simmons
SYKO Simmons
22 hours ago
Reply to  Griznant

Teletouch was 58

TOSSABL
TOSSABL
3 hours ago
Reply to  SYKO Simmons

You drive an Edsel, so I’ll definitely be looking at you!
-and giving an enthusiastic thumbs-up , btw

Eggsalad
Eggsalad
1 day ago

“‘Unfortunately today many drivers to get to their parking space, put the car in park, and go about their day, [and] this puts an unnecessary strain on the transmission, especially on an incline,’ notes the company.”

Back-of-the-napkin math tells me that at least 50 million times per day, automatic transmissions are placed in Park without using the emergency brake. How many transmissions have failed from this?

Mechjaz
Mechjaz
1 day ago
Reply to  Eggsalad

Sigh, but if you tell people to use their goddamn parking brake you’re a nag. Drives me (parks me?) crazy. I’ve not changed one person’s behavior in 20+ years of telling people “a tiny steel pin is holding your car in place, you really should set the brake.”

AssMatt
AssMatt
1 day ago
Reply to  Mechjaz

Are you telling people in the Midwest? I have family in WI who have never once parked on a hill. Save your breath!

Mechjaz
Mechjaz
1 day ago
Reply to  AssMatt

Appalachia many of those times D:

Last edited 1 day ago by Mechjaz
Sam Morse
Sam Morse
1 day ago
Reply to  Mechjaz

I wonder what the odds are of any random emergency brake actually being operational?

Dodsworth
Dodsworth
1 day ago
Reply to  Mechjaz

They will argue with you and swear to God that “Park” sets the brakes.

Scruffinater
Scruffinater
1 day ago
Reply to  Mechjaz

The steel pin is probably resting against some aluminum, which makes it even better! I have successfully convinced my wife to use the parking brake, but I won’t even try to convince anyone not in my immediate family. Once my kids reach driving age they will probably only have to deal with my nagging in their first vehicle (a beater of some sort). I suspect everything after that will have an automatically engaging/disengaging parking brake. Given how few people can be bothered to set their own parking brake, I am not sad the automatic ones are taking over.

Speedway Sammy
Speedway Sammy
1 day ago
Reply to  Scruffinater

Typically the park pawl is a stamped or forged powder metal steel part with a “tooth” that engages spline teeth on the transmission output carrier. Most mfgrs have a durability test sequence that it has to survive XX number of moving engagements. The tooth profiles and spacing are such that it will “ratchet” above a certain speed and engage when below that.

EXL500
EXL500
1 day ago
Reply to  Mechjaz

Damn it, I paid for that parking brake. I’m gonna use it! (And I do, even in flat Florida.)

Ranwhenparked
Ranwhenparked
1 day ago
Reply to  Eggsalad

I’m going to go with very few, aside from maybe some highly fragile ones with known design flaws

Ranwhenparked
Ranwhenparked
1 day ago

I always wondered why so many owners actually bothered to plaster the sticker on their dashboards – I mean, I get why fleet vehicles and dealer inventory would have them applied, but, for a private owner, the sticker already did it’s job when you opened the envelope and read it, do you really need to re-read it every time you get in the car?

Also, the whole thing always seemed to have a sort of Irwin Mainway feel to it (Warning: You Be Careful With That)

Sam Morse
Sam Morse
1 day ago
Reply to  Ranwhenparked

Safety third!

Dumb Shadetree
Dumb Shadetree
1 day ago
Reply to  Ranwhenparked

My car was recalled. The “fix” for the recall involved mailing all owners a sticker saying something like “Due to modifications this vehicle’s load carrying capacity is reduced by 1lb.” I received my bright yellow sticker along with instructions to place it inside the driver’s door jam.

Sure, I’ll get right on that. I put the sticker on my wheelbarrow.

Dave mid-engine
Dave mid-engine
1 day ago

At that meeting, he said, an official in the company’s vehicle safety department said, ”We really don’t need this. Our problem is that people just don’t put the lever all the way into park.

I despise this method of thinking. Blaming users does nothing to fix a systemic problem. People like that should not be in a position of making decisions.

Sam Morse
Sam Morse
1 day ago

An aircraft analyst says all pilot errors are the result of bad design.
There are some exceptions, but it’s a valid point.

Josh Berger
Josh Berger
1 day ago

One tries to design for the biggest idiot they know.
The problem is that a better idiot is created every day.
90% of them go into management…

TOSSABL
TOSSABL
3 hours ago
Reply to  Josh Berger

I dunno: I work in the field, and we sure get more than 10%….

Mike B
Mike B
1 day ago

Yikes, I’d never heard of this before. Just the other day, I was just talking to the engineers at work about stuff like this, where companies decide the payoffs are cheaper than the actual fix. The Pinto was the topic of discussion.

When I was 16 in 1996, I drove a 73 Chevy K10 with a TH350. I didn’t know the mileage, but I assumed the odo had rolled over at least once. I daily drove that till ’00 or so, and not once did it ever slip out of park, and I never used the parking brake. I don’t recall if it even ever worked.

Sam Morse
Sam Morse
1 day ago
Reply to  Mike B

Are you familiar with the Mustang firewall that was never built by Ford?
Designed by engineers, Ford decided to save a very small amount by never installing a trunk firewall.
Today you can buy the original Ford design for classic mustangs from the recovered technical drawings.
Ford part, yet not a Ford part!

Mike B
Mike B
1 day ago
Reply to  Sam Morse

Wild! Never heard about that.

Ben
Ben
1 day ago

The agency provided statistics that showed deaths from Ford’s transmissions issue had declined from 1.5 deaths per month prior to December 1980, down to 0.9 deaths per month over a period ending January 1983.

I hope you’ll pardon me if I don’t consider the problem “solved” when it’s killing someone approximately once a month.

The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
1 day ago
Reply to  Ben

This is the same company that decided it was a better idea to pay settlements to families of Pinto owners who fried in minor accidents than spend the money to fix the problem. Ford had some interesting ideas in the ’70s; I’m surprised they didn’t get sued out of existence.

Ben
Ben
1 day ago

I have no illusions that this ended in the 70s. Modern automakers would absolutely try this if they thought they could get away with it, except now it would be a software patch of some sort instead of a sticker.

The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
1 day ago
Reply to  Ben

Probably true. I suspect we don’t hear about this today because vehicles are so much better than in the past and serious defects are rare. I presume companies still would rather pay settlements than fix problems if it saves money.

Thatmiataguy
Thatmiataguy
7 hours ago
Reply to  Ben

And they have. Ford has been in hot water for some time for the 6-speed dual clutch power-shift transmission debacle, built from 2011-2017. These transmissions would lurch, stumble, and occasionally shift into neutral unexpectedly. There is proof that Ford knew of the problem and told dealers to tell owners that this was “intended operation,” even though it wasn’t. This issue was that the transmission was a cheaper dry clutch design rather than the more common wet clutch design. I only avoided this issue because my Ford Focus had a 5-speed manual.

Ford is also dealing with lawsuits related to Ford F-250 roofs caving in when the truck rolls over. Additionally, a few months ago there was a recall related to fuel injectors leaking on some vehicles, creating a puddle of fuel on top of the engine. Ford’s solution? Drill a hole to let the fuel drain onto the ground. Yes I’m serious.

Basically, if there is a half-assed way to deal with a safety issue, like ignoring it, blaming it on user error, or using the cheapest fix possible to pass legal muster, Ford will find a way. They’ve been doing it since at least the 70’s and it doesn’t look like much has changed in the years since.

I personally will never recommend a Ford product to someone. They make some cool products, but at the same time they do not stand behind their products at all, and your death at the hands of their cost cutting is an acceptable trade off to see positive numbers on their balance sheet. They are sort of like Stellantis in quality, but the failures seem to be more deadly.

Ranwhenparked
Ranwhenparked
1 day ago

That part isn’t actually true at all, the memo in question was an evaluation of the costs to the entire auto industry of implementing NHTSA’s proposed moving barrier rear impact test vs the less stringent fixed barrier standard they had already announced, using NHTSA’s own cost/benefit figures

SYKO Simmons
SYKO Simmons
1 day ago
Reply to  Ben

Well…to be fair… At .9 they didn’t quite die yet….

Sam Morse
Sam Morse
1 day ago
Reply to  SYKO Simmons

Due to the International Date Line they might be dead in Hong Kong, yet still walking around here!

Josh Berger
Josh Berger
1 day ago
Reply to  SYKO Simmons

I’m not dead yet!

Griznant
Griznant
1 day ago
Reply to  SYKO Simmons

They’re only “mostly” dead, which is still “slightly” alive. No issue there.

Aaronaut
Aaronaut
1 day ago
Reply to  Ben

Only 66% of the previous horrible deaths than before?? An incredible success! I sure hope somebody poured those Ford execs a celebratory Highball.

Bearddevil
Bearddevil
1 day ago

We had ’77 and ’79 F250s with the C6, and neither one had a sticker. And the ’77’s shifter was particularly easy to just slide up and down, instead of having a distinct need to pull back to get it out of Park. But none of us ever got run over, so I guess there’s that.

Paul B
Paul B
1 day ago

You would not believe how much the safety of commercial aviation is based on instructions on stickers (and training).

Source: I approved them for a while as my job. Transport Canada, FAA and company have very stringent requirements.

We don’t actually call them stickers, we use the term placard.

AssMatt
AssMatt
1 day ago
Reply to  Paul B

My Body Shop crew is very specific that stickers on the outside are “decals.”

Chris D
Chris D
23 hours ago
Reply to  Paul B

Uhaul trucks are the king of in-cab stickers, and a few on the outside as well. They must have a sticker for each lawsuit that they have had to defend.

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