Good morning! Today we’re looking at a couple of little cars that are going to make you feel old, if you’re in my age group. Remember the little Japanese car that your sister’s roommate or roommate’s sister drove? The one with the plastic lei wrapped around the rearview mirror and Ace Of Base blasting out of the tape deck? Yeah. It’s a classic car now.
Friday’s pair of pairs are classics now too, I guess, but they’re not something you saw on every street corner 25 years ago. Hell, one of them you didn’t see here at all except in magazines until they became legal to import a few years ago. And the other you didn’t see anywhere except golf courses.
I am absolutely not surprised in the least that the pair of Paos won this round. They’re cool and unusual little cars, not the trying-too-hard fever dreams of a couple of old men. What might surprise some of you is that I agree; I don’t really want even one TC, let alone two. If I ever go looking for another Chrysler turbo, it will be a Shelby Charger or a Daytona Turbo Z.
Time catches up with all of us; that’s no secret. So we shouldn’t be surprised when the things that filled our younger years show up again years later, labeled as collector’s items and wearing inflated price tags. But it can be hard to reconcile our memories of something being dirt cheap with the new realities of its “classic” status. It’s even worse when you had one, or know someone who did; you can’t help thinking “Man, that thing would be worth a fortune now.”
But if all of them survived, none of them would be worth anything. It’s the scarcity that creates the perceived value. But it also has to be something people want to collect. Do these little imports qualify? Let’s see.
1987 Honda Civic CRX – $5,000
Engine/drivetrain: 1.5-liter overhead cam inline 4, five-speed manual, FWD
Location: Vancouver, WA
Odometer reading: 191,000 miles
Operational status: Runs and drives well
It’s surprising how much of a difference a trim level can make. Two versions of the same basic car, with different suspension tuning, gearing, and other small details, can feel like completely different machines. Such is the case with the Honda CRX, especially this first generation. The Si model, with more power and fatter tires than the base or HF models, was celebrated as a fun, tossable little sports coupe, while the base model was largely ignored, except when discussing fuel economy. But then, it’s not really much more than a less-practical Civic.
Not that it’s not a fun car to drive; all Hondas of this era are lively, delightful cars to drive. It’s not fast, with only a 76-horsepower CVCC engine fed by a three-barrel carburetor, but it also weighs next to nothing, so it doesn’t need much. This one is rapidly closing in on 200,000 miles, but as is typical of ’80s Hondas, you’d never know it from how it runs. The seller has receipts for a bunch of work done recently, including the all-important timing belt.
Inside, it’s all stock except for the stereo, and in respectable shape. The driver’s seat has seen better days, and I bet the bolster padding is pretty well shot, but at least the upholstery is intact. The seller says it has all the components for air conditioning except the button on the dash to turn it on. Maybe someone tried to add it, and didn’t finish the job?
It’s nice and clean outside, too. If this were a Midwest car, I’d worry about rust under the plastic lower body cladding, but in the Pacific Northwest, it’s probably not much of a concern. I always did like these with the silver lower body cladding instead of the Si’s matching cladding, though I personally prefer them in dark blue instead of red.
1988 Toyota Tercel – $5,500
Engine/drivetrain: 1.5-liter overhead cam inline 4, five-speed manual, FWD
Location: Rogers, MN
Odometer reading: 92,000 miles
Operational status: Runs and drives but “idles weird”
For two decades, when someone asked, “What’s a car that’s cheap to buy, cheap to run, and as reliable as a hammer?”, the answer was simple: Toyota Tercel. It never was an exciting car, but if you needed something that would get you where you were going, year-in and year-out, while costing you as little as possible while doing it, there was no better choice.
This is the third-generation Tercel, when the drivetrain layout switched from a longitudinal engine with the gearbox underneath it to a transverse engine with the gearbox next to it, as had become the standard. It’s a single overhead cam four, with three valves per cylinder (two intake and one exhaust, if you’ve ever wondered). This one has had some recent work done including a new clutch and a new carburetor, but apparently it still needs some tuning, because the seller says it “idles weird.” These engines are also prone to carbon buildup, I’ve heard, which can also cause a bad idle. Maybe it just needs a good Italian tune-up.
Tercels are basic cars, but I had forgotten just how basic until I saw this instrument panel. A speedometer, a fuel gauge, a temperature gauge, and a few idiot lights are all you get. I suppose that’s all you need. It’s not quite the plainest Tercel you could get, though; it has air conditioning and a fifth gear.
It recently came to Minnesota from California, so the Midwest winters haven’t had a chance to do it any harm. The paint is still shiny, the vinyl upholstery is still in decent shape, and even the basic steel wheels look good – a true survivor.
Obviously, these two aren’t much good for their original intended purpose. Yes, they still get awesome gas mileage, and they should still be reliable (once you get the Tercel’s idle problem straightened out), but compared to modern cars, they’re about as rigid and safe as a Mountain Dew can. I mean, if you like to live dangerously, I guess you could drive one of them daily, but considering what’s out there on the roads nowadays, I know I wouldn’t feel all that safe in them. But for occasional jaunts to car gatherings, or trips to the ice cream shop on Saturday afternoons – you know, classic car stuff – they could be fun. Which one is your pick?
(Image credits: Craigslist and Facebook Marketplace sellers)
CRX is the easy pick. It’s cheaper and it will be more fun.
Price? Near enough to make no difference. Reliability? I’d be hard pressed to find an argument that one is considerably more reliable than the other. Desirability? Between the fun styling, ’80s chic name that implied cool (it has an “X” in it!), and actual fun that can be had behind the wheel, it’s the Honda by a mile. Choosing the CRX here is as easy as throwing on a flannel shirt and blasting Nirvana from the tinny stereo.
The CRX is a beloved platform, even if this isn’t an Si. The Tercel was an econobox and nothing more.
CRX all day! I still like how those things look, it’s in great shape, and it’s also the name of a great band the guitarist from The Strokes started, so I know exactly what to pop in that CD player.
I wanted a CRX back then, and I still do. Although the second generation was a lot better.
The CRX is legitimately a cool car, even if is not an Si. That it is mostly stock is a huge plus. The Tercel is interesting as a preserved ordinary car, but it is not a particularly cool or desirable vehicle. I’m not sure why these vehicles are priced similarly. The CRX is worth the asking price; the Tercel isn’t. CRX should win in a landslide.
How often do you find an unmolested CRX that is this clean? Easy win.
With a two-horsepower difference and pretty much the same weight, these are a closer match than I thought. With a more upright seating position and 100,000 fewer miles under the belt, I’m taking the Toyota and some overnight parts from Japan.
Upon seeing the headline, I was immediately tempted to go with the CRX. Seeing that the A/C is not all the way there quickly de-tempted me, though, as A/C is non-negotiable where I live. I guess it comes down to whether it’s more likely that only a “button” is needed to get it going or that the weird idle in the Tercel is an easy fix. Ugh. Guess I’ll go CRX.
I dated a woman who drove a late 80’s Chevy Nova which I mistakenly thought was the twin to the Tercel (it was a twin to the Corolla, for those of you keeping track at home), so I voted for it.
In reality, I would totally pick the CRX, but I knew it would smash the Toyo, so I thought I’d play contrarian today. Seems like I’m not the only one.
Fun fact: The Nova is actually more JDM than the U.S. Corolla. It’s the AE82 chassis Sprinter and aside from modifications to the front grille/headlights to make it conform to the draconian headlight laws in the U.S. at the time, it was basically the Japanese car built at the NUMMI plant in California.
I have an ’87 and have owned it for over 30 years. Nice thing about Toyotas is that they’re like Lego and mine sports all manner of JDM goodness including a silver-top 4AGE 20v which was a bolt-in upgrade.
The CRX is in better condition, and the carb problems in the Tercel can be scary, but it has AC and more room.
If the CRX had AC, I would’ve picked it.
CRX all day and twice on sunday, I lusted after these in my teens, as someone said plenty of bolt ons to get more spice!
I’m stunned at the price of the tercel. My very first car was a 1987 Toyota Tercel hatchback (3 door). Came to me free from a relative, eventually sold it for $250 and that was pretty much blue book! 4 cylinder, 4 speed (I think) manual. Talk about bare bones! no radio, no AC, roll down windows. Pretty much perfect for a teenager, but man I was jealous of my highschool classmate driving a CRX.
CRX all the way. Much more fun to drive hard, easy to perk up with various Honda/Acura parts that pretty much bolt right in, and a nice bit of design.
The Tercel is one of the dullest cars ever from a company known for dull cars.
The Honda just has more flair, and I agree on the dark blue for these – great combination. The wheels too…
I know the mileage is high on the Honda and its interior is tired, but it gets my vote. I’m just not interested in the Tercel enough; though a price drop might make it more attractive. Still, I can see driving the CRX unironically, and I think it’d be easy to sell if I got tired of it.
Can’t spell crux without CRX and, today, the Honda resolves the crux at the heart of Shitbox Showdown.
Dang. Even i feel the Toyota tax is high today. The working ac and being clan Toyota, never Honda, made me vote tercel. They were actually pretty fun little tin cans with the stick but even my base model celica felt huge next to it. Vote for the tercel but it should be 2k max.
“Idles weird” can be anything from a dirty fuel filter to a worn camshaft to a bad head gasket. Pass on the Toyota, voted for the Honda only because I had a chance to drive one back in the day and thought it was a fun little car.
I appreciate that the Tercel has survived, but the CRX always seemed to me to have been a fairly desirable car since new, so it isn’t really a surprise it’s considered a classic 37 years later, they have a following
OH. Oh this is a difficult one. Uh… The CRX was the “fun” one when new, but… I don’t I’ve ever actually in my entire life seen a Tercel coupe outside of marketing materials from when it was still being sold. The CRX isn’t thrashed. It’s not saddled with the four speed automatic. It’s got the original pizza cutters. The Tercel on the other hand’s got an engine problem. But the Tercel’s an extremely rare shitbox and it has a period correct stereo (fitting, since most didn’t even come with one)…
Aww, man.
Tercel, I guess.
Having owned one of those Tercels and having carb issues, gimme the CRX all day. It’s way better looking anyway
I really would drive both,but not at that price. The CRX wins because it’s a CRX i suppose.
That Tercel is tempting, but in this case the answer is always CRX.
You gotta be kidding me. Five grand plus?!? For these?!?
I voted Tercel, just because it has a back seat and AC, but I feel dirty doing it.