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I Drove 2,000 Miles And Battled Southern Heat, Giant Spiders, And Time To Rescue A 76-Year-Old Car I’ve Never Seen Before

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This weekend, I did something that was a bit crazy even for me. After years of futzing around with modern German cars I bought my first American classic. But I didn’t just buy any old car. I decided to rescue a 1948 Plymouth Special Deluxe owned by a retired motorcycle cop and post-war Plymouth subject matter expert. I drove a 2,000-mile round trip, braving giant spiders, southern heat, irritating plants, and time to buy a car I hadn’t even seen with my own eyes.

Back at the end of April, resident rescuer of the unloved, Stephen Walter Gossin, dropped a goldmine into the Autopian‘s Slack channel. Located in the literal middle of nowhere in North Carolina is a cute wheelchair-accessible house for sale. A reader just trying to help the property get sold found a secret “cove” filled with several post-World War II Plymouths and DeSotos slowly being taken over by nature. The collection was astonishing and included everything from unobtainable vintage car radios to vintage Mopar parts you probably won’t find anywhere else.

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I was crazy enough to decide to bring one of them home!

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From A Plymouth Legend

All of these vehicles were once the passion of one man: Willie Shaw. For decades and even into today, Willie has been obsessed with everything about the Plymouth and DeSoto P15. These cars were the first products built by Plymouth after World War II and featured a mix of pre-war bodies and updated technology. The P15 was made for just a short span of time from 1946 through 1948, yet these cars have a strong following. Perhaps the biggest P15 fan out there is Willie, and if you’re willing to sit down with him, he can tell you about every nut, bolt, and intricate detail about these cars. Willie is like a living Haynes Manual, but better.

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Willie wasn’t just an expert in P15s, but an expert with his photos and cars published in multiple magazines from oh-so-long ago. It sounds like if you needed to know something about a P15, Willie was your man. Willie was also an avid collector of P15 cars. He told me that his yard used to have around two dozen of them in it. The amazing part is that you’d never tell. Willie cleverly stashed his cars into an alcove carved out in a small forest. If you viewed his house from the street it just looks like any other property.

Check out the entrance to the cove. See what I mean?

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Like any serial collector of a single model, Willie collected cars with stories to tell, and each with their own purpose. Some of his vehicles were crown jewels of the fleet while others gave up their parts. My 1948 Plymouth Special Deluxe was a car Willie regularly drove between New York City and North Carolina with a motorcycle in tow. He loved this Special Deluxe, especially for its real and shiny twin exhaust system. Willie then added white wall tires to give the shining black paint a little extra pop.

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Sadly, no mortal can escape the ravages of time and eventually, Willie lost the ability to keep up with his expansive fleet. Now, well into his 90s, he’s become wheelchair-bound. Willie’s house has a wheelchair ramp, but his chair’s not really equipped to get back there. Sadly, there’s no way he’s getting to those cars on his own.

So, his cars have been sitting for years. Willie says most of the cars that were operational were parked 5 to 7 years or so ago. The cars weren’t broken when they were parked, but Willie wasn’t able to keep up with them. Willie told me that he drove my Plymouth into the spot it was parked in about five years ago. He last tried starting it three years ago and wasn’t successful.

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So, you’re looking at about five years of decay here. That may sound weird because the car looks like it’s been buried in the woods for decades, but North Carolina’s environment is something else. As Stephen tells me, plant life out there grows quickly and cars parked under trees are quickly taken over by nature. Then there’s the sun, which absolutely bakes paint. I saw late-model cars out there with paint fade, so I cannot imagine what the sun does to these old beauts. Stephen protects his cars with UV-blocking covers. Actually, I don’t need to imagine what happens to old cars since the evidence was all there on Willie’s property.

Before I continue, Willie’s story also isn’t one of just being an expert in a specific car. Life is a wonderful thing and he has plenty of tales to tell of being a Black motorcycle cop in New York City in the 1970s. He’s seen things, he’s done things, and from the sounds of the stories, he was a thoroughly cool guy while doing all of it. I mean, this is swagger right here:

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Unfortunately, time is something that gets to all of us and Willie believes it’s time to pass his beloved fleet on. So, basically everything in his car cove is for sale. A man from Mexico scooped up about half of the cars already, so Stephen and I were picking up the best of what was left. Stephen got a Citroen 2CV, which you’ll almost certainly read about later.

I Am Bad With Time

I’ve had since April to prepare for this trip and I thought I planned it out pretty well. But, it turns out I am pretty consistent with being bad with time.

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The original plan called for me to drive down on a Saturday, rescue the car, and drive back on Sunday. However, going to EAA AirVenture Oshkosh 2024 last week opened up the idea that I could drive down on a Friday and spend more time in North Carolina instead of doing a turn-and-burn. My new plan was to leave AirVenture on Friday, drive down to North Carolina that same day, hang out with Stephen Walter Gossin on Saturday, then rescue the Plymouth before driving home on Sunday. As I noted in my previous entry on this car, I expected a 13-hour drive from Garner, North Carolina back home to northern Illinois.

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Well, the first problem with my plan was the fact that the car was not located in Garner, but Garland. This is important because it added an hour of travel time that I did not account for. I should have seen that coming. Stephen told me this house was in the middle of nowhere, but Garner is a real city, so I wasn’t making the connection. Well, duh, I had the entirely wrong location!

I’m sure you see the second problem. While I added a day to the itinerary, I didn’t add time to the car rescue itself. I never considered that rescuing a car could take several hours, then I would need to drive another 14 hours on top of that. There are only so many hours in a day, so I’m just asking for trouble.

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Thankfully, starting my drive on Friday was still a smart move. It took most of Friday to dump my family’s camper’s tanks, leave AirVenture, drop off the trailer, and pick up the U-Haul Auto Transport. I didn’t start heading toward North Carolina until 4 pm on Friday. I ran out of energy somewhere in West Virginia, some 5.5 hours from Stephen’s place. But that was fine since I gave myself extra time to get there.

I should have given myself extra time for the rescue, too.

The Rescue

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I reached Wilmington, North Carolina in the early afternoon hours of Saturday.

The 2024 Ford F-250 Super Duty Lariat I drove down proved to be a great road trip warrior. The 6.7-liter Power Stroke diesel V8 scored an easy 18 mpg while hauling the 2,200-pound U-Haul car hauler and I was delighted in the fact that the truck was so comfortable that I had limited fatigue. You’ll read more about this truck later, but I’m not sure there was a more perfect vehicle for this trip. I was certainly making this truck earn its keep from AirVenture to picking up the Plymouth, and the truck rocked in nearly every single moment.

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Anyway, Stephen showed me around his fleet, his house, and Wilmington before we picked up his mom and spent an hour soaking in the sun and the waves at Carolina Beach. Stephen wanted to teach me how to surf but the current was so wicked strong that it was a bad idea. Stephen pointed out how Wilmington is shaped a bit like an ice cream cone and the beach we were at was near the bottom of it. If you got swept away by the current there’s nothing but open ocean past the bottom of the cone. Still, I had a blast taking my first dip in the Atlantic in at least a decade.

We then finished the night with dinner at a fancy Italian restaurant before I got the chance to drive his sweet Nissan Titan. I also got to meet his wonderful girlfriend and experience the thrill of a $200 Dodge Stratus. Sadly, we couldn’t spend too much time having fun because Sunday was a big day.

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The car rescues stressed us out even before Sunday. Stephen needed a tow dolly or an auto transport but found that nearly every U-Haul Neighborhood Dealer was closed on Sunday or just didn’t have the equipment he needed. We found one place — a bizarre business where you can rent a tiny house, buy a Hyundai, rent a storage unit, or rent a U-Haul all on the same property — that had an auto transport, but it was unclear whether the business would be open. Google said no, but U-Haul said yes. Ultimately, we performed a recon and the door of the business confirmed that Google was wrong.

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Things happened quickly on Sunday with us picking up reader Anthony Raynor (who goes by turbotictac on our site) around 8:30 am and the trailer around 9. Then we drove an hour to Garland, which I feel like I need to elaborate again was really in the middle of nowhere. I’m talking so rural that the roads don’t have any clear names. This is so rural that people have satellite TV and Internet.

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Upon arriving at the property we talked with Willie and his wife, Stella. That’s when we found out that the Plymouth I came down to buy didn’t have a real title. Willie had a photocopy of the previous owner’s title and a photocopy of the bill of sale from the last owner, but nothing in his name. This was a bit of a shocker as I decided to do this 2,000-mile trip on the idea that the car had ignition sticks and a title. Unfortunately, photocopies of previous documents are useless in the state of Illinois. Sadly, the death of the Vermont “loophole” means no title situations suck.

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Thankfully, I’m working with Stella to get a real title so I’m not too worried about this. The car is titled in Willie’s name, they just don’t know where the title went.

Stephen and I then descended into the cove with two readers in tow. Our mission was to free both a Citroen 2CV and my Plymouth, but also to clear space so one reader could retrieve a DeSoto and other people could possibly save other vehicles.

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This sounds easier than it actually was. Stephen attacked bushes and small trees with a chainsaw while I picked up a leaf blower and used it to clear debris. These cars may have been sitting for just a few years, but they had built up of all kinds of detritus on them and had additional horrors inside. My Plymouth was full of giant spiders and what appeared to be former homes of wasps. I didn’t want to deal with any of that, so I opened all four doors and just blew out the cobwebs and everything else.

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There was also just figuring out all of the bits and pieces. Willie had dozens of keys, but they all looked the same and Willie couldn’t tell you what they belonged to. It was a similar deal with the titles that were on hand. All of these cars were P15s, so the only true way to match cars to titles was to clear out the flora blocking entry to the vehicles and matching their serial numbers to the titles.

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The keys were just trial and error. I found three keys that worked with my car. The ignition has its own key, as do the doors and the trunk. Are my three keys the keys that actually belong to my car? I have no idea, but they do work, so I’m not complaining.

As for the car itself, it was both in better and worse shape than expected. The underbody is remarkably clean. I’m talking it’s cleaner under there than just about any ten-year-old car from the Midwest. The rear axle doesn’t have a speck of rust on it and the frame only has the smallest beginnings of surface rust. The worst of the underbody corrosion is on the control arms.

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While we were looking under there, we noticed Willie had installed new-ish shocks to the vehicle, too. Clearly, he did some repairs and maintenance before storing the vehicle. The car even wears new Coker tires – at least they were new when they were installed right before the car was parked.

On the other hand, I found more rust than I expected on the door sills. Thankfully, most of this rust is covering removable metal door sill pads. I removed the pads and found the metal underneath – the real car body – to be largely clean. There’s still some rust, but almost all of it is of the surface flavor. The only bad spot is near the front passenger door, where a bad window seal has left the floor drenched for years. But even then, it’s nothing like the rust classics get up here. There is some real rust in the trunk, where failed seals joined forces with carpet to help trap rainwater back there for five years or so. But again, the rust is scaly back here, but there’s no rust through and the underside of the trunk still shows paint.

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From what I can tell, the car was likely mostly rust-free when it was parked. However, basically every seal is crumbling from the southern sun, so water is getting in through the doors, windows, and trunk. That water then sat under carpet and under the sill pads and rust started doing its thing. Thankfully, it’s not bad! I pulled up the carpet and was surprised to find the floorboards to be nearly perfect. It’s solid throughout with only some surface rust in areas where the carpet has been wet for a while.

I paid just $1,000 for this car and even factoring in the cost of diesel and the trailer rental I doubt I’d find a 1940s car this complete and this clean in Illinois for near that price. The condition is further illustrated in the engine bay, where one of our readers found that bolts in there just slipped right off without a fight. You won’t find that in the Midwest!

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The drivetrain’s condition is also remarkable. The engine turned over by hand and it appears that all cylinders have good compression. One cylinder appears to have a small ring of rust in it, and I reckon that cylinder had a valve open this whole time. With Anthony ‘s help, we popped out the spark plugs, added some Marvel Mystery Oil to the cylinders, and began lubing up every joint we could find.

We were delighted to find out that so much of the vehicle was intact. The throttle pedal and its linkages work as they should, the wires and the vehicle’s ignition system looked to be in good shape, and nothing was really stuck. We found coolant seepage at the water pump and radiator, but those were the biggest problems we found. The jugs of coolant and water in the trunk suggest that the car might have even been leaking when Willie last drove it over five years ago.

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Another problem came when it was time to winch the car onto the trailer. See, this car likely has something called a Fluid Drive, and back then it was Chrysler’s weird hydraulic coupler which replaces a flywheel. There are three gears on a column, but with a fluid coupling attached to the manual transmission, acting like how a torque converter would today. Fluid Drive was also slapped onto a “semi-automatic” transmission, which was really just a transmission with a high and low gear but still had a clutch pedal. You still need to clutch to shift gears in either case, but the Fluid Drive prevents stalling when shifting or when stopping. It’s weird and I’m definitely going to show you its weirdness once the car is running.

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The immediate problem at hand was that we had no idea how to operate the transmission, Fluid Drive or not. So, the car was locked into a gear, which Stephen’s 2,500-pound winch wasn’t happy about. Worse was how the car sank a bit into the mud. So the winch had to work against both a mud hole and the transmission.

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Thankfully, we are a crafty bunch. We got the car out of the hole by employing a giant block of wood and a floor jack to physically lift the car out of its resting place. As for the transmission, it doesn’t seem to have a familiar shift pattern, so what we thought was neutral (the shifter in the middle) was not. Instead, I had to put the shifter in the middle and then pull back to put it into neutral. I discovered that by accident and as David would say, it came in “clutch.”

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Sure enough, all of these shenanigans took hours of work under the 90-plus-degree temperatures and super-high humidity of the south. Stephen and our readers were used to it, but I felt like I was trying to breathe through soup. And this soup was flavored like spiderwebs and mildew. We were mostly successful, too. Sadly, we couldn’t find the keys to the DeSoto the reader wanted to buy. I also didn’t have the time to go through the treasure trove of parts.

The Way Back

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I finally hit the road around 3:30 in the afternoon. Google said I had a 14-hour drive ahead of me, which meant an arrival at 4:30 in the morning after accounting for the time change.

This is where I screwed up. I have to do that long drive, clean the car, return the trailer, clean the truck, and then work the rest of the day. Somehow, I just never factored in the “rescue” part of the car rescue into my timetables.

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Thankfully, the F-250 had long legs. It got about 15 mpg with the Plymouth in tow and the 34-gallon tank meant 510 miles of range. Sure enough, the truck made it home on just two tanks of diesel. I was on track to beating Google’s estimated time of arrival by an hour, but then the truck asked for a drink of DEF. Somehow, four of the truck stops I visited either didn’t have DEF or the pumps were broken, so that was fun. Despite those delays, I still arrived on time.

I’ve never purchased a car that didn’t run before, but I figured I could let gravity do the unloading for me. I parked the trailer on a slight downward slope, maxed out the jack and then did a little bit of a test. See, we had no idea if the parking brake worked, if the clutch grabbed hard, or if the regular brakes worked.

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I put the car into what I thought was a gear then set the parking brake. Then, I released straps holding the Plymouth to the U-Haul trailer. I was relieved when the car didn’t try rolling down the trailer. I left the emergency chain connected as backup, but it wasn’t needed! Instead I hopped into the car, put it into neutral, then used the brakes to gently roll off of the trailer. I then put it into gear and the clutch grabs more than hard enough to spin the engine over. Once I rolled into a parking spot, I pulled the parking brake and sure enough, the car locked itself into place.

Well, I’ll be dipped. I now fully believe the car was in operational shape when parked 5 years ago. So, all of this is great! In theory, the car will drive once I get the engine running again.

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The Future

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I’m super stoked about this car, enough that I’m going to give it a project name. Admittedly, when I first saw pictures of the Plymouth I said it looked like a “gangster car,” so we’ll go with that as a theme. I’m going to call this ride Project Capone.

What comes next is washing off the gunk inside and out so the car looks presentable. Then, I want to dig right into that fuel system. It seems I already have brakes, tires, a transmission, and a clutch, so let’s make it run! I’ve already sold off one other project and am selling off two others to clear my path for the Plymouth.

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My plan isn’t to restore the car. To be brutally honest with myself, I don’t have the time or the skill for that and that’s part of why the U-Haul camper never went anywhere. Instead, I just want to get it running, clean up the interior, and enjoy it as a survivor just as David did with his old Plymouth Valiant. Only Project Capone doesn’t have massive ankle vents.

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I hope to have weekly-ish updates with this one, starting with just cleaning it. Sheryl wants to work her proven magic inside and I’ve already gotten a head start outside. With some luck, maybe I’ll cruise a backroad before it gets cold again.

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Strangek
Strangek
3 months ago

Cool! Congrats! I like this purchase better than some problematic VW from the early 2000s.

James Colangelo
James Colangelo
3 months ago

This is really neat. It looks to be in really solid shape, especially that under-side. Frame looks good, everything is solid. Do yourself a favor and go through those brakes and add a dual circuit master cylinder. These old cars had a single circuit and its basically cheating death every time you drive it. It’s a cheap and easy thing to do and I’m sure in the realm of your skill level.

That engine will fire right up – those flatheads are stout as hell. You’re really going to enjoy driving it. Really excited for you!

Jim

Car Guy - RHM
Car Guy - RHM
3 months ago

I find that whenever someone says it’s been sitting x years, always multiply it by at least 2. Time flies.

GirchyGirchy
GirchyGirchy
3 months ago
Reply to  Car Guy - RHM

That’s exactly the yardstick we use at work to determine when something actually happened vs when we think it did. Working with a group of the same people for nearly 20 years has that effect.

Last edited 3 months ago by GirchyGirchy
Turbotictac
Turbotictac
3 months ago
Reply to  Car Guy - RHM

I believe this one. Tire date code coincided with the timeframe he said and they still had 8-10psi of air each.

Slant Six
Slant Six
3 months ago

Great article on a fun adventure! I’m really looking forward to seeing you out on the road.

One thing to consider… some constructive feedback if you will.

Language is important and powerful. You should probably work “confined to a wheelchair” out of your vernacular. It’s not really an appropriate way to express someone’s use of a mobility aid (in this case, a wheelchair). From the AP Stylebook:

“Don’t say “confined to a wheelchair” or “wheelchair-bound.” Instead: wheelchair user. If a wheelchair is used and it’s relevant to the story, say why.”

I know you don’t mean to offend anyone. That said, some people take phrases like “confined to a wheelchair” as essentially judgements by people without disabilities about how it would be to live life using a wheelchair (or other mobility aid). They might even describe that kind of phrasing as “ableism”. I, personally, would not like my life negatively framed by my use of a mobility aid(s).

Remember… for a lot of people a mobility aid (wheelchair, scooter, etc.) is sweet FREEDOM and they certainly do not feel confined to it.

Slant Six
Slant Six
3 months ago

You rock! I’ve been educated by friends on a few things like this. It’s what friends do, right? Kind of like saying “You’ve got arugula in your teeth” or or “No, just NO, do not buy that Alfa Romeo”.

And again… I really like reading your articles, especially the RV stuff – because I don’t have the fortitude/bravery to own one myself 🙂 Your work here is one of the reasons I started a paid subscription.

Ron888
Ron888
3 months ago

I like! Not my favorite classic car but it’s up there.
I’d be tempted to use old school not-so-shiny paint for the genuine historic look, but hey that’s just me. Be sure to post a video of the first proper drive 🙂

Sledgehammer
Sledgehammer
3 months ago

My Dad had an almost identical 1946 Australian delivered P15 special deluxe in black. Was like driving a truck even compared to mid 60’s cars but felt like it would pull a tree stump.

Parsko
Parsko
3 months ago

What a great car. I LOVE the arm rests in the back seat. Please, keep this as a summer car only. Please.

Dogpatch
Dogpatch
3 months ago

I’m amazed.
You drove a lot in a few days ,stayed up all night and still had time to write a great article on a car rescue on what I assume was very little sleep.
Also I congratulate Ford for allowing you to use their loaner to do a road trip.Im going to have to change my opinion of them.
Once again a great article.

Marc Fuhrman
Marc Fuhrman
3 months ago

Super cool! I look forward to seeing ya get this back on the road.

Cerberus
Cerberus
3 months ago

The ’38 a guy in high school had was also referred to as a gangster car. Not sure how many gangsters would have driven a Plymouth (maybe the low end ones or a stolen one for shooting up a competitor’s business?), but it was black with suicide doors, so close enough for the ’90s. Looks like you got an awesome deal for a grand and getting to meet a cool guy with what sounds like great stories!

Huja Shaw
Huja Shaw
3 months ago

Can’t wait to see/read what you do with the car. What a beauty.

5.7WK2
5.7WK2
3 months ago

Mercedes, glad we could stop by. Was awesome meeting you, SWG, and Turbotictac.

I’m going to be back on Sunday with a trailer (and a good friend who is a licensed locksmith) to get the DeSoto. Fairly certain we can atleast get in it and get it into neutral, and get it on the trailer. Once I can pull a tumbler keys are no problem. Got a 20’ car trailer with a 6 ton winch sitting at the house today ready to rock and roll.

It’s like walking back into a time capsule in Willie’s Post-war Chrysler product treasure trove.

Stephen Walter Gossin
Stephen Walter Gossin
3 months ago
Reply to  5.7WK2

5.7WK2 is another True Hero of Autopia and new friend that was there to lend us a helping hand on Sunday. This man picked up the rear axle of my 2CV with his bare hands to reposition it for towing!

His help was critical and we are wicked grateful for it.

I’m currently lobbying Matt to make a special set of True Autopian Heroes for those of us that deserve top honors from the Autopian Brass.

Stephen Walter Gossin
Stephen Walter Gossin
3 months ago

*Pins/badges^

Jack Trade
Jack Trade
3 months ago

I vote for “Heroes of Autopia”, with typeface/visuals in a ’40s WPA poster style!

5.7WK2
5.7WK2
3 months ago

Nah dude I was just there for the party

5.7WK2
5.7WK2
3 months ago
Reply to  5.7WK2

Turbotictac did a lot more than I.

Geoff Buchholz
Geoff Buchholz
3 months ago

There are so many great things about this article, including a 2CV cameo and the much-awaited Mercedes-Stevie G crossover episode, but one of my favorites is seeing two real-life Autopians pop in to help. It’s another sign that y’all are on the right track with this thing.

Also, “True Autopian Heroes” gives me “Real Men Of Genius” vibes, with SWG on vocals.

Idiotking
Idiotking
3 months ago

Dragging vehicles home is sort of like estimating a home renovation: double whatever figure you come up with, but add mud daubers, mosquitoes, at least one Hi-Lift jack, and twice as many ratchet straps. Oh, and make sure the winch battery is charged up.

Dodsworth
Dodsworth
3 months ago

The trunk decoration and the hood ornament look like they’re worth $1000 by themselves. I’m excited for you!

Ranwhenparked
Ranwhenparked
3 months ago

Yours should be a conventional 3 speed manual with a regular flywheel, unless it’s been swapped, Chrysler never offered Fluid Drive in Plymouths.

Plymouth did eventually get a pretty wacky semiauto with a torque converter in place of the flywheel, but not until halfway through the 1953 model year

Turbotictac
Turbotictac
3 months ago
Reply to  Ranwhenparked

You seem to be right. That would explain our confusion when trying to locate neutral as we were under the impression it was a Fluid Drive like the DeSoto beside it. There was so much play in the column shifter it felt like neutral. We must have had it in second gear which would have been neutral from what we understood at the time. That explains why when Mercedes pulled the shifter towards the wheel it popped into neutral.

Ranwhenparked
Ranwhenparked
3 months ago

Maybe more neutral news, a simple, reliable, flywheel is a known quantity, but the Fluid Drive coupling was also extremely rugged and durable.

Hondaimpbmw 12
Hondaimpbmw 12
3 months ago

My dad had a 48 Chrysler Windsor w/ fluid drive. The clutch pedal had “Fluid Drive” written in script on the pedal cover and because you didn’t have to use it 3 times for every start, it remained quite unworn for the years and miles.

FWIW, if it were fluid drive, reverse is where you would expect it to be, Lo range was where 2nd would live on a 3 speed manual. The ratio was enough to get the rear bumper past the crosswalk, then you either clutched and moved the lever down to “High” which felt a lot like 2nd, then at about 35-40, let off the gas, wait for the “clunk” and you were in top gear. If you let off the gas in Lo gear, thee “clunk” seemed a lot like 2nd. You could drive the car on flat ground by just leaving it in Hi and not have to touch the clutch. Take off in 2nd and let the magic happen by letting off the gas when you were rolling.

I don’t recall actually being able to put it in gear and having stay put, but the sideways handbrake under the dash seemed to always do the job.

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Ranwhenparked
Ranwhenparked
3 months ago
Reply to  Hondaimpbmw 12

Yours was the M6 semiautomatic transmission, which used the Fluid Drive coupling, but while all semiautomatics had Fluid Drive, not all Fluid Drives were semi auto, since you could also get it with a regular 3 speed manual.

The 4 speed transmission with 1st and 2nd as Low Range and 3rd and 4th as High was introduced on Chrysler and DeSoto before the war and made available on Dodge in 1946. The difference is the prewar version, the M4, was vacuum operated, the postwar M6 was reengineered to hydraulic operation.

Problem was, Chrysler used a different brand name for the transmission in every brand, while the Fluid Drive name for the coupling stayed consistent and was also the only name that was put on the car’s badging (stamped in the rear bumper). In a ’48 Chrysler, the transmission was called Prestomatic. The prewar vacuum one had been Vacamatic

Hondaimpbmw 12
Hondaimpbmw 12
3 months ago
Reply to  Ranwhenparked

Gotta say that the ratio difference between 2nd and 3rd was practically indistinguishable. The wait between 1st & 2nd in low range was interminable, so I seldom bothered with it, just changed to high range and got on (slowly) with life. OTOH, it was a great snow car. 4,000# + of road hugging weight w/ not much power and a tall takeoff ratio in high gear meant you had to work it it to break traction, even in snow.

Ranwhenparked
Ranwhenparked
3 months ago
Reply to  Hondaimpbmw 12

Chrysler advertising encouraged it to be driven that way, High was supposed to be your driving range, put it in 3rd and let it move up and down between 3rd and 4th all day, Low was more for towing heavy loads or going up really steep hills, probably got a bit better economy and performance if you used it regularly, but it wasn’t worth bothering.

When they did the 3-speed Hy-Drive on Plymouth in 1953, they took it a step further by making the clutch pedal red instead of black and branding it as the “Safety Clutch”, to really let you know you weren’t supposed to use it most of the time. They also stuck a fake automatic-style shift quadrant on the steering column to cover for the fact it still wasn’t a real automatic.

In Chrysler’s defense, basically all of the 1st generation automatic transmissions had a lot of teething issues that generated high warranty claims and troublesome reputations in their early years, but their semiautomatic transmissions were basically fully sorted and reliable right out of the gate, and were also a lot cheaper to buy while being not much more involved to operate. Its why they clung to the idea for so long and came out with a full automatic pretty late in the game, when it was obvious they were losing too many sales that way.

Last edited 3 months ago by Ranwhenparked
Turbotictac
Turbotictac
3 months ago

It was all worth it to get the skeptical look from Mercedes and hear “You Southerners are something else” when I popped out from under the car wearing blue jeans and commented on how it was a really nice day and how great it felt outside.

As far as the car goes, even being from the South I was shocked at how amazing the condition of the car was. Every nut and bolt looks perfect and I was amazed by the underside and interior. Soaking the cylinders down was more for peace of mind and to prevent damage on first startup then anything, as the engine turned over by pulling on the fan with just the right amount of force exerted. The tires even still had pressure in them when I hooked up my battery powered tire pump. I have no doubts the car will be back running in short order.

Jack Trade
Jack Trade
3 months ago
Reply to  Turbotictac

I’m just amazed that the owner had the time & perseverance to keep them all more or less current over the years. And I hope that’s you in the topshot preparing to yank that thing out of the ground with Mercedes jubilant.

Turbotictac
Turbotictac
3 months ago
Reply to  Jack Trade

It was impressive to see. I wish we could have seen the cars that were there before. I imagine if these were the ones that were left than those must have been exceptional. That is in fact me locating a secure spot for the winch cable!

Nic Periton
Nic Periton
3 months ago

I love this, my sort of car (bit young and a a bit more sensible) this might be helpful;

https://www.oldcarmanualproject.com/manuals/Plymouth/1948/Clutch/index.htm

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
3 months ago

Too bad it didn’t come with a pinstripe suit, fedora, cigar and a Thompson machine gun. Look forward to future updates on Project Gangster.

Shop-Teacher
Shop-Teacher
3 months ago

Awesome score!

Col Lingus
Col Lingus
3 months ago

God bless Willie.

Stephen Walter Gossin
Stephen Walter Gossin
3 months ago
Reply to  Col Lingus

The dude completed the Boston Marathon and survived flipping his NYPD police cruiser on the Verrazano Bridge on a high-speed chase in the 70s.

He told me stories where he’s take his BMW R100R bike to destinations as far as West Virginia to buy Plymouths and DeSotos, buy a hitch for the car and a cheap trailer after the purchase of the car was complete, and trailer the bike home.

True Hero Of Autopia status.

We became fast friends.

Frankencamry
Frankencamry
3 months ago

A manual with a fluid coupler instead of a flywheel seems pretty bonkers, so I’ll look forward to the transmission write-up.

Congrats on the new project!

Steve's House of Cars
Steve's House of Cars
3 months ago

Good luck with getting it on the road! If you need another set of hands I’m not far away (Gurnee area) and happy to come help!

ClutchAbuse
ClutchAbuse
3 months ago

Congrats! You may want to bug bomb it. A leaf blower isn’t going to get the creepy crawlies living in the dash.

UnseenCat
UnseenCat
3 months ago
Reply to  ClutchAbuse

Or under the seats.
Or in the door panels.
Or behind the headliner…

Defintiely bug bomb time.

Heck, I’ll bug bombed nice houses if they’ve been vacant for more than a couple of months. Nature takes over fast. And doesn’t necessarily want you coming back and reclaiming territory.

Ranwhenparked
Ranwhenparked
3 months ago
Reply to  UnseenCat

I bug bomb before I go on vacation, and I keep my place pretty clean. Just some extra peace of mind

Last edited 3 months ago by Ranwhenparked
StillNotATony
StillNotATony
3 months ago

This is gonna be epic!!

Sid Bridge
Sid Bridge
3 months ago

Congrats! Project BRAT started for the first time this past weekend and the feeling is pretty amazing. Can’t wait for updates on this one!

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