Most journalists never really get the chance to truly live with the vehicle they’re testing. Automakers send out a vehicle for a week and it’s gone before you really get to know the vehicle. Some of us get the chance to keep a press loaner for a long time and we get to live the life of someone who actually purchases the vehicle. That has been my experience with the 2023 Zero DSR/X. I have ridden this electric motorcycle as my primary form of transportation for a whole year. That’s a long time, and I’ve come out of the other side thinking that this is the coolest electric motorcycle you can buy right now, but there’s one big caveat.
I’ve embraced the EV owner lifestyle and the triumphs and failures that come with it. But that’s not all, I’m one of roughly a fifth of Americans without charging access at home, so this motorcycle has been ridden in the worst-case scenario for a whole year. I feel if I could make this motorcycle work, most people should, too.
Spending a year with a vehicle means having enough time for things to go wrong and for parts to begin wearing. My year with the Zero hasn’t been perfect and I’ve even gotten to see how the cycle is aging. So, let’s take a look at how the year has gone.
An Electric Adventure
Since it’s been a while, I’ll refresh you on what you’re looking at.
The DSR/X is a huge deal for Zero. The company, which was founded in California in 2006 by a former NASA engineer, is trying to be like the Tesla of motorcycles. Zero doesn’t sell electric motorcycles with the best range or the best power, but the overall package of a Zero is solid.
The DSR/X launched in 2022 and it isn’t just Zero’s biggest electric motorcycle yet, but one of its most important. This motorcycle has all of Zero’s latest technology bolted to the frame and Zero is ambitious with the bike, calling it “the world’s first true electric ADV.” Most reviewers say that the Zero DSR/X falls short of the ADV claim and that the bike is closer to a commuter. However, those people haven’t been able to use their testers for a whole year.
Zero has long been known for its off-road electric motorcycles, but those motorcycles, like the FX and the DSR, were better described as dual-sports. These are motorcycles that, as their name suggests, have the capability to ride on the road and tackle off-roading. However, the adventure motorcycle market is a lucrative one. Adventure bikes are fantastic machines blending high touring comfort, off-road capability, and road prowess into one. It makes sense for this company to zero in on the market.
The Zero DSR/X hits with some decent specs, too, from one of my previous entries:
Now, Zero wants to sell you what it says is the real deal. The Zero DSR/X is built from the ground up but takes inspiration from its siblings. The DSR/X was supposed to be based on the SR/F and SR/S sportbike, but Zero found out that sportbike bones aren’t really strong enough for off-road duty. Zero’s new machine needed a new, beefier platform. Thus, it rides on a new trellis frame and a new swingarm that is thicker and has more gussets. The DSR/X’s frame and swingarm look like they come from the sportbikes, but they’re longer and stronger.
Connected to that frame is a Showa Separate Function 47mm Cartridge Forks and a Showa 46mm shock out back. The forks have adjustable spring preload, compression, and rebound damping while the rear has the same tool-less adjustments. You get 7.48 inches out of both units.
Powering this 544-pound beast is a Z-Force 75-10X motor delivering 100 HP and 166 lb-ft of torque and it’s fed by a ZF17.3 kWh battery (15.2 kWh nominal), the largest battery ever fitted to a Zero. Zero says that the battery will charge from a zero percent charge to 95 percent in two hours, or to 110 percent in 2.7 hours. That’s when it’s able to charge at 6.6 kW. Optional is the 6 kW Rapid Charger, which gives you 12.6 kW of charging power, capable of getting you from dead to 95 percent in about an hour.
Pricing for the Zero DSR/X has varied between $19,999 and $24,495 depending on how Zero is feeling on a given week. Right now, it’s $22,995 before fees and you can’t get the motorcycle in the sweet green my tester is painted in. I will also note that there have been some changes to the DSR/X since I took delivery of the loaner. The motorcycle now has linked brakes and the torque is now listed as 169 lb-ft.
Before we continue, check out the corrosion on the bike’s brake rotor and the end of the swingarm. The motorcycle still stops and operates just fine, but this is quite unsightly for a bike that’s just a year old. Most of the bike has aged just fine despite my hard riding and often outdoor storage, but some parts are looking a little grungy.
Zero also says you can now find charging spots while you’re off-roading:
The DSR/X empowers you to extend your adventures beyond what you thought was possible. With our largest capacity battery, the Z-Force 17.3 kWh, and the optional Power Tank upgrade, your range can reach nearly 21 kWh. Supported by over 100,000 public EV charging stations and counting, EV charging is now highly accessible even in places that might surprise you. Through our partnership with Backcountry Discovery Routes (BDR), we’ve integrated charging infrastructure information into BDR’s maps, enabling numerous iconic BDR journeys on the all-new DSR/X and expanding the reach of electric motorcycle adventures.
So, the bike has not stayed the same since its 2022 release. However, what I’m riding is still the core product. That’s a lot of money for a machine like this, so it better be a great ride. If I had to sum up the past year in a single word, it would be “awesome,” but let’s go through it.
Summer 2023
My journey started at the end of June last year. The Zero became the first electric motorcycle I’ve gotten as a press loaner. I picked it up from a dealership with 500 miles on its odometer and a weirdly beaten-up manufacturer license plate. Clearly, someone had a lot of fun before I came around.
The novelty of an electric motorcycle made itself immediately apparent. There was no start button and no vibration from a thumping engine. I just got on, turned the key, and activated the drive motor by flipping a kill switch and kicking the sidestand up.
Electric motorcycle builders often publish pretty suspicious numbers for torque figures, but Zero is one of the companies that delivers. Twist the throttle and you’re assaulted with that 100 HP and 166 lb-ft of torque immediately. Hold on, because that’s enough torque to send the front wheel into the sky without you even intending to. Oh, you don’t know how to do a wheelie? Well, you’re going to learn today. Admittedly, I did not know how to wheelie before this bike, but the power delivery is so hard, so great, and yet so controllable that I found myself figuring out wheelies in real time.
I don’t have access to a dyno, but the folks of Cycle World do, and the publication’s testing of Zero motorcycles have found the company’s torque claims to be on point after you subtract losses on the way to the rear tire.
The speed is brutal, too. The pull is relentless as it rockets to 60 mph in 2.9 seconds and continues to pull your face back until about 80 mph. Only then does the motorcycle run out of steam. Still, it’ll continue accelerating until 112 mph, then hold it until the arbitrary moment when the motorcycle decides to drop you down to a sustained 100 mph. This motorcycle is fast enough to beat just about everything in a stoplight drag save for something like a Tesla Plaid.
I spent much of my summer launching the motorcycle at every green light. The front tire lifted off of the ground every single time and the motorcycle was consistent in its hard launches, too. Zero engineered a bike that could deliver its advertised specs over and over again, even in sizzling summer temperatures.
The motorcycle’s handling is also something else entirely. The DSR/X is almost eager to carve corners and to lean over to the point where your boots scrape the ground. If I didn’t know any better, I’d say this was a sportbike pretending to be an adventure bike. But that understates just how good this motorcycle handles. It gracefully follows your every movement like a ballerina. Shift your weight and the motorcycle turns with you. Lean hard into a corner and the motorcycle gives you the confidence to follow through. All of it is entirely effortless, too. You never feel like you’re making the motorcycle do something it wasn’t built to do.
I’ve never quite ridden something that handles like this before or since. Sometimes I checked the spec sheet to confirm that yes, this motorcycle weighs 545 pounds. You could have fooled me, because it rides like it’s much lighter. It even feels like when you’re sitting still at a red light.
I also got the Zero dirty quite a lot over the past year. My tester wears a set of Pirelli Scorpion Trail II tires. These are a road-oriented tire that are also designed with dirt in mind. The motorcycle’s excellent handling, combined with off-road traction control plus the tires, make for a fun experience in the dirt. I found myself doing things I never had the courage to do on my old 1999 Triumph Tiger.
The Zero will happily go in the direction you point it at speed, allow you to kick the rear tire out, and let you go on a real adventure. I played with the Zero in dirt, on abandoned railroad tracks, and blazed my own path to get to a secret beach. The suspension has plenty of travel to soak things up and the ground clearance is high enough that you don’t scrape on anything. Zero says it’ll do about 200 miles at slow off-road speeds and I can confirm the motor just sips on battery at low speed.
If adventuring matters most to you, Zero will sell you the motorcycle with wire wheels, knobby tire, a skid plate, and other protection. With that said, I do not recommend going in mud with those Scorpion Trail IIs. In my experience, the motorcycle immediately falls on its face when the terrain gets super slippery. So, you’ll want the knobbies for that kind of stuff.
Charging Sucks
This leads us to range. Many of the journalists who tested the Zero DSR/X either played with it in the city or took it on the highway. Zero says the range is 107 miles of highway commuting, but that doesn’t tell the whole story. The manufacturer expects your highway ride to include 50 percent of stop-and-go traffic and 50 percent of steady state 70 mph riding.
This isn’t realistic. An adventure bike is supposed to be a long travel companion, not a city slicker. If you ride the Zero DSR/X down a more empty highway, going with the higher speeds of traffic, you’ll kill the battery in something like 85 miles, less if you live in a place where the highway is like the Indy 500.
I’ve been able to confirm that epic range loss with my own rides, but I decided to take things easier. I took country roads instead of highways, where speeds top 60 mph, but not for long. It’s a slower way to travel, but also more fun. Keeping the Zero off the highway has regularly resulted in me going 120 miles on a charge with 15 or so miles to spare, which is what some more thirsty gas-powered motorcycles will do before flashing the fuel level light at you. I know my old Honda Gold Wing liked stopping every 100 miles.
Unfortunately, topping back up is where things go wrong. A standard Zero DSR/X has the capability to suck down 6.6kW of those creamy electric juices. In my experience, it takes about 2.5 hours to go from 7 percent to 100 percent battery. But it should be noted that “100 percent” isn’t what it says on the tin. The default setting fills the battery most of the way, we’ll say around 90 percent, to increase its longevity. You have to push the extended-range charging option to get it all of the way there. In my experience, the total charging time with extended-range charging turned on is over 3 hours. That’s a lot of time sitting and not riding.
Zero does offer a rapid charge option. The Rapid Charger kicks charging up to 12.6 kW, which can get the bike from mostly dead to mostly full in just one hour. Zero also talks about a network of over 100,000 public chargers. But here’s the thing, a lot of chargers just suck. The chargers in my area max out at 6kW, so it doesn’t matter if you have the Rapid Charger because you’ll be stuck there for at least two hours. Sadly, my tester does not even have the Rapid Charger, so I couldn’t test it even if I had access to a charger.
It’s also notable that the motorcycle does not have a DC fast-charging option, which could have helped it be a better motorcycle for the highway.
As for 100V charging, you can do it, but boy does it have its own problems. Zero compares charging the DSR/X from a standard wall plug to be no different than charging your phone. It isn’t. For starters, charging from a Level 1 source takes over 10 hours, which means it may not even be full by the time you wake up. Secondly, the bike is likely to trip breakers in older buildings.
I spent all of summer 2023 charging the motorcycle from public sources. I hooked up the day before a ride and either camped out with the bike or had Sheryl pick me up so I could retrieve the bike later. My local charging options include a public park, a car dealership, village hall, or a car repair shop, so it’s not like there was anything for me to do while waiting the long time.
Thankfully, Sheryl started renting a garage that fall. My problems were solved, right? I became a member of the EV majority with garages to charge their vehicles in. Unfortunately, I was thrown another curveball. Each garage in my neighborhood shares a circuit with two neighboring garages. So, if I’m charging the Zero and my garage neighbor decides to throw a party in his garage man cave? The breaker trips, cutting power to all three garages. The Zero did this at least a few times, trapping my neighbors’ cars in garages that wouldn’t open.
So, I’ve spent all of 2024 thus far back on public chargers. I think this charging thing is the Zero’s biggest problem. You can drain the battery in a little over an hour, but then it’ll take more than three hours to get back on the road again. Sure, you could option the Rapid Charger, but now you have to make sure the charger you’re finding could actually charge the bike fast. In my experience riding through rural Illinois and rural Wisconsin, those types of chargers are still rare.
Unfortunately, the long charging times turn day trips into overnight trips. Two hours are a lot to lose when you can go only 100 miles or so per charge. So, I’ve kept the Zero mostly local. It’s a shame, because this feels like the motorcycle of the future, but it’s for a future that just isn’t here yet.
It Doesn’t Like Being Cold
This winter, the big news was when a bunch of Tesla has a bad time in the subzero temps that slammed Chicago for about a week. The Teslas got all of the headlines, but the cold snap hurt other EVs, too. This wasn’t supposed to be a concern for me. Zero was supposed to pick up the bike in September, but let me keep the machine through the winter.
The Zero has some quirks. It’s programmed not to charge at temperatures under 32 degrees. However, the motorcycle will continue to ride until the temperatures reach -4 degrees. Yes, this means it’s entirely possible to ride somewhere and not be able to charge again until it gets warm outside. This is especially bad because Zero says the battery could be damaged after prolonged exposure to subzero temperatures could damage the battery. It could also be damaged after being discharged for too long. Yet, you literally cannot charge a Zero when it’s too cold outside.
My other winter ride notes are as follows:
If it’s cold enough outside, say, under 20 degrees Fahrenheit, the motorcycle may run in a reduced power state. Zero says cold temperatures have a temporary impact on the energy the batteries can release. Thus, if the motorcycle deems it necessary, it will limit power and top speed. This power reduction happens without any indication on the motorcycle’s display, but you’ll feel it as acceleration is gradual rather than brutal. Still, even in reduced power mode, you’ll be faster than most traffic and can still hit 85 mph or so. Besides, do you really want wheelie-popping power when the temperature is just 15 degrees?
I’ve been putting a few hundred or more winter miles under the Zero’s tires. The coldest ride thus far was 15 degrees and I got caught in some light snowfall during that ride. The Zero DSR/X has been plenty fun through all of it and the heated grips have helped my hands stay nice and warm. My one complaint is the lack of a second source of heat. On an ICE bike, your legs can stay nice and toasty thanks to the engine. Here, you’re relying totally on your gear.
Things Broke
Press loaners aren’t usually long enough to allow for things to break, but having a vehicle for a whole year opens you up to the reality of what owning that vehicle will be like.
In terms of reliability, the Zero has been one of the most dependable vehicles I’ve had in my possession. With one exception, the motorcycle has always worked and has never complained about a single thing. It just works. Granted, I haven’t ridden the bike a ton of miles, but the seat time I’ve gotten in the bike hasn’t been easy on it. I’ve taken the Zero on 2,300 miles of off-road courses, zipped it up to top speed for sustained runs and have subjected the motorcycle to some of the hardest weather seen in years.
This Zero has ridden in temps above 100 degrees and close to zero degrees. It has been through severe thunderstorms and near blizzards. If it wasn’t built well something would have given up by now. Yet, it still works great. The motorcycle also froze in the subzero temps that killed Teslas, yet this rocket’s battery doesn’t seem fazed.
With all of that said, the Zero has experienced a couple of failures.
The first was with its J1772 port. Now, you may never think about your ports when you plug into a charger. Why would you? Your phone never has issues hooking up and neither do gas cars. Well, you should always check a charger before plugging it into your vehicle.
In my case, a charger at the local college has a damaged prong. It looks like it was shoved into a socket or maybe dropped onto the ground. Whatever happened, I didn’t notice this until after I tried plugging the motorcycle in. At first, I felt some resistance, but the plug slid right on. I knew something went wrong when I noticed the bike wasn’t charging.
To my dismay, I found out that the charger was damaged and mangled one of the pins in the J1772 port. I was able to bend the pin back into shape, but the damage is still there. The consequence is that sometimes I’ll stop at a charger that doesn’t latch onto the pin and thus won’t charge. I learned a new lesson: Always check the charger’s condition before insertion because you never know when an in-service charger is really broken.
The other part that broke was the side stand spring.
Now this sounds silly because who cares, it’s just a spring. However, this got me stuck for a couple of hours. In early 2024 I took a ride down an abandoned railroad track. I was riding over a large tree branch when the bike suddenly shut off its motor. The error was a down stand, which was weird because I wasn’t parked.
I looked around and sure enough, the stand’s spring left the chat, immobilizing the motorcycle. I found the spring and immediately recognized the problem. The spring was installed at the Zero factory with the hook facing out. This allowed the spring to get caught up on detritus and removed.
Unfortunately, the spring’s strength was stronger than my own, so I could not get it back on the motorcycle. This wasn’t good. The motorcycle wouldn’t move without the side stand being up. I thought about repurposing the garbage around the area to tie the side stand up, but that would have meant an inability to park the bike.
Ultimately, I figured out that I had the perfect key ring for the job. It was just strong enough and just large enough to bridge the gap my muscles couldn’t. I didn’t get good spring action, but it was enough to get me home with a functional stand.
I got home and used a ratchet strap to hoist the spring in place. I installed the spring with the hook facing backward and the issue never happened again.
A Second Wind This Summer
Zero still hasn’t picked up the motorcycle so I’m still riding it.
I’m happy to say that the motorcycle seems to have survived winter without damage. In fact, I’m getting better range now than I did last summer. Now I’m regularly hitting about 130 miles of range on each ride.
My confidence level is also greater with this motorcycle than with any bike in my entire fleet. 2,300 miles of riding has taught me the motorcycle’s limits, quirks, and abilities. Now I zip through corners leaned over on the Pirellis, come to near complete stops with the motorcycle’s strong regen, and I know exactly how to get every mile out of that battery. I’ve even given it a name: Olive. Is it bad to name press vehicles?
The other features I haven’t mentioned are great, too. The windshield does an admirable job at blocking wind and while the main storage compartment won’t fit a helmet, it will store a large purse and some quick grocery shopping. There are also hidden front cases in the large nose and those are great for tools and other bits of kit that you don’t want in the main bin. The headlights are bright, the taillight gets attention, and the seat is comfortable enough for the rides you’ll be doing.
Unfortunately, one feature I wish this motorcycle did have was a brake light that turned on with regen. The motorcycle will happily stop from 80 mph to 8 mph entirely on strong regen, but the brake light does not illuminate when you do it. This isn’t like downshifting in a manual, either. The regen is strong enough that it feels like a brake check, which can be dangerous if a car driver isn’t paying attention.
My workaround is lightly tapping the brakes while regen is doing its thing.
Speaking of attention, this motorcycle is a rockstar. Introverts should not buy a DSR/X because they will be inundated with constant questions. Pedestrians will marvel at how quiet the bike is, people at red lights will ask you if it’s electric, and everyone will want you to do a wheelie. One day I parked the Zero next to my Suzuki RE-5 and not a single person cared about the rotary bike. Everyone had their mind blown about the electric bike.
That’s why I say the Zero DSR/X might be the coolest electric motorcycle on sale right now. Not only is it a great ride, but you’ll get endless compliments and pictures. You might even become a local celebrity.
Overall, I think the 2023 Zero DSR/X is almost the perfect motorcycle. It’s so fun to ride and such a great all-rounder that it has become my primary mode of transportation. However, the charging either needs to be faster or America’s infrastructure needs to catch up. Until then, it’ll feel like this motorcycle is the coolest thing to ride, but maybe five years into the future.
This is a great article, and I enjoyed getting to read about your experience with the Zero over the last year. It’s a really appealing bike, and seems like it would be a lot of fun for travelling around the Northeast Megalopolis. I don’t know that it would be able to replace my ’78 R100RS for longer trips out into the country, though, simply given range and ease of refuelling.
Are Zero still doing that ridiculous ‘pay to unlock’ hardware stuff on their bikes? That was honestly the dealbreaker for me the last time I looked at them.
I’ve been riding a Brammo Empulse R as my primary around town bike for close to 10 years now. I am not a motorcycle touring guy, so accepting the range limitations hasn’t been such a big deal. But the convenience, low maintenance, performance, and lack of vibration have really made it so that I don’t actually WANT another bike that isn’t electric.
What’s been keeping me from pulling the trigger on something that is sold by a company that exists has been the price. $20K for a bike just won’t fly with me. For my lifestyle, a bike is a toy, a fair-weather commuter, a fun way to go get ice cream or something with friends. I only bought the Brammo because it was marked down to 40% off sticker, which made it at least semi-reasonable, especially in the days of 1.5% financing.
I want a Zero more than any other electric motorcycle, but I have issues with the company. It stems from this year’s Northern Cali BDR video. Great piece of marketing and the Zero DSR/X was used. What the video creator made it seem like was they never had to charge the bike on the trail. That is not true. Motorcycle Men episode 379 it is mentioned that the bike got charged during the longest section. I find that a bit negligent in case someone tries to recreate the ride and ends up stuck with a dead bike.
It’s been really cool to read about this bike long term. I like it, but could never justify the cost.
I’m still of the mindset that electric doesn’t make sense for full scale road-oriented motorcycles. You simply lose range when you are at a decent speed. I’m glad these exist and I hope they’ll continue to be developed, but I’m boggled they manage to find any buyers.
Now, electric scooters and dirt bikes? Sign me the hell up for that. Such a shame that Alta couldn’t survive. Out of all the electric motorcycle/scooter companies and products that come along, their was by far the closest to parity with ICE competitors, and depending on what you did, could be even better than the gassers.
From memory Alta leaders got screwed by some shady non-ethical business shanaians not of their own but by some business partners I think when they were trying to raise funds. 100% a damn shame bc the product appeared to be so good I’m frankly surprised there is no “Alta alternative” i.e. another ev focused dirt bike startup that has taken over the lead…
We’re 1/2 way through 2024 and ev battery prices at least for automotive are below the magic $100 per kw which is supposed to be the cross over point for an ev auto to be less expensive to produce than an ice auto & this is true at least in China.
I would have expected such a mainstream bike ev company to be more competitive comparable to auto ice vs ev capabilities in range and recharge capabilities by now.
Thanks for the tidbit about “working” chargers having bent pins! I’m shortly replacing my Cruze with a Model Y and that probably saved me some headaches. Initially it’ll be slow charging and public charging until the sparky has a rainy day to install the 240v charger.
What a great adventure…they might as well let you keep it now!
I’m looking forward to that update, since you’ll probably still have it then.
First, what a deep and kickass follow up on the Zero. I’m happy to hear it’s been providing solid riding for you!
None of these are deal breakers, but it sounds like the bike should communicate better – tell you that it’s running in Cold Mode, signal regen braking, that kind of thing.
I remember reading about it refusing to charge in low temperatures and I really, really don’t like that. If I’m stranded on my bike and the only way out is to charge it, battery be damned, I should have that option. Make me click through a screen if you have to but that’s my prerogative.
$25k would land my ass on a Triumph Rocket 3 GT, but I’m happy Zero isn’t just vaporware and held up over an (accidentally extremely long) press loan. It’d be fun on a bun to have a mix of bikes, including an electric rear-wheel roaster.
How is none of this a deal breaker? 2-3 hours charge time for 1-2 hours riding time is ridiculous for a supposed ADV (or touring or sport touring) bike! It’s nothing but an overpriced commuter bike until it gets actual fast charging and the infrastructure can support that.
Oh, I guess because I’m thinking of it slotting in as a 2nd/3rd toy, a commuter maybe. If it was my sole transport, absolutely not. But if I feel like taking it somewhere instead of the gas bike, the Z4, or the truck, it’d be a neat little thing to have around. In my mind it’s a “I’ve got too much money and empty space in the driveway” type deal.
The cold weather charging issue isn’t unique to this bike. My guess is that it’s using LiFePo4 based batteries. Charging below 20 degrees will actually damage the battery; many (including one I installed in my RV) have a thermal protection circuit to prevent it from accepting a charge if the temp is too low.
Not just LFP. They’re the most common for 12V drop-in batteries, but other lithium-ion chemistries also get damaged if charged below about freezing.
Lots of enthusiasm for a motorcycle that freezes, loses range at normal highway speeds and goes for 22k. How do these guys stay in business?? I know there are few Harley fans here but I get 68 mpg on my sporty with a 3.5 gallon tank 400lb wet weight. ,True, she is rigid and runs a springer but for point and shoot riding, she’s a riot. Honestly, electric vehicles are like elevators without the music.
You should look up what comparable ICE motorcycles cost these days. An Africa Twin is up to $15k these days and this comes with more features (though, lots of downsides too). A F900GS starts at $13.5k but we all known given BMW’s proclivity for dealer stocking practices means you’ll be lucky to find one under $15k and $17k won’t be too uncommon.
So while it’s still expensive, it’s certainly closing the gap over the past few years. It’s got a ways to go, but I’d say it’s nearly halfway there.
And freezing isn’t a big deal in the US; most riders don’t ride in the winter at all. They are largely treated as toys.
There are much nicer motorcycles to compare this to than a Harley.
“Is it bad to name press vehicles?”
i don’t think it’s bad…a little odd perhaps, but not bad.
85 miles of usable range. Seems just fine for a commuter. That is NOT an adventure bike.
Great review.
The charging limitation will always be an issue with an EV bike. Unlike with a car, there’s very little ‘fat’ in which to hide a big charger. And DC-DC is cost prohibitive and risky in a motorcycle. I’m wary of sitting on top of a 400V system while covering ‘adventure’ terrain. The 12.6kW seems like it would be good enough, if the owner had an at home charge solution.
I’m 8 years in with my FXS. I’ve always wanted more charging (you don’t like 6kW? try 650W stock) but since it’s a commuter bike, it’s rarely been an issue. Thankfully it has held up well, with only a minor rear brake fluid issue, plus a couple parts lost to exceeding my capabilities at times.
It’d need a bigger charging port for CCS, but would it really need any extra space for the charger itself? DCFC is basically a direct connection from charger to battery with maybe a contactor and a little extra logic to control it. The bulk of the equipment’s in the charger itself. It’ll be interesting to see if the switch to NACS makes it more practical for bikes.
The bigger charger would be for L2 (AC). DC requires a completely different architecture on Zero’s part, as there is no wide charging adoption for any voltage system below 300V. Zero uses a 100V system. I can’t imagine them redesigning their entire system for DC, as the R&D investment and per unit cost increase would be significant.
Adventure motorcycles seem like a killer app for EVs – they cut the noise that is so bothersome while out in nature – but the charging situation and lack of brake light actuation on regen braking are simply unacceptable. Hopefully they resolve these issues.
Thanks for keeping us updated on the continuing story.
It’s probably done as a review bike for any other publication. Probably accelerated depreciation and now a value close to zero for Zero.
Have your lawyer talk to their accountant and see what you can come up with. (-;
Put some hard bags on it and it is probably the ideal all round, all road, city bike.
“Zero says that the battery will charge from a zero percent charge to 95 percent in two hours, or to 110 percent in 2.7 hours.”
110 percent? How does that work?
I explain that somewhere in there. 🙂 When you charge to 100%, it’s really at more like 90% to save the battery. But with the flick of a switch, you can charge to 100%, which presents itself as 110%.
Ah, I missed that.
Reminds me of stories about Germans, who complain that when the gas gauge goes to empty their car doesn’t immediately stop running or that they rev it slightly past the red line and the engine does not actually blow up, so I guess they don’t sell this in Germany set up like that.
Really of course it’s a smart idea. People think that charging a battery to 100% is a good idea, and with most chemistries it is in fact, not a good idea.
Most everything that uses lithium chemistry batteries should really have a normal range of 20%-80% presented to the user as 0%-100%, with options for ‘extra charge 110%’ and ’emergency power’ for the rest of the range put behind a ‘hey, don’t do this too much if you like your battery’ warning.
That is true, except that unless there is some regulation compelling automakers to state battery capicity that way it probably isn’t going to happen for competitive reasons. On the other hand if batteries were rated like that it would probably save auto makers something in warranty claims.
Maybe it’s a job for the SAE. How did the changeover from gross horsepower to SAE horsepower come about? That would be a model to follow.
Oh, not just cars, motorcycles and bikes. Phones, tablets, computers – anything with a non-user-replaceable lithium-based battery that has an onboard charger should do it.
I just picked up a 2018 BMW C evolution, their first attempt at an electric scooter. 100 mile range, heavy but all the weight is down low, nimble handling, quick off the line. To alert drivers when decelerating under regen I bought a helmet light with an acceleration sensor and attached it to the bike. I’m enjoying the scooter but I’d love to be able to ride further.
I have 2016 DSR with a 13 KWh battery. My commute is all city with top speed of 40mph and I average about 146 miles on a full charge which costs me only $1.20 in electricity. Zero’s are a fantastic commuter! Never tried offroad because I worry a rock will catch in the belt and snap it.
Regarding the no brake light on regen, on the ElectricMotorcycleForum they are big proponents of disabling off throttle regen as it’s terrible for efficiency since you lose more energy from regen braking than you gain back so coasting is preferrable. They suggest adjusting the brake to have more aggressive regen when engaged in the app.
The trick is that the bike starts regen based on the brake light being on. So if you adjust a tiny bit of slop in the brake lever you can engage it just enough to turn the light on and brake using only regen before the pads actually bite and you get the safety of the brake light coming on as well.
That’s some good advice! I’ve played around with custom ride modes in the app, but not much else. I like using the default regen as a way to slow into corners and sometimes to stop (more just to see if the regen can do it), but I’m going to try this trick you mentioned. I mean, who knows how much longer I’m going to have it for!
I feel you on the off throttle regen being great for corner braking. It just feels so good. I leave it in Eco mode around town for that reason, but switch to Custom with off-throttle regen off when I get on the highway to take advantage of coasting being more efficient.
Mercedes, I’d be curious to know how insurance works on such a long-term loaner.
The manufacturer pays for insurance. You just flash the card if you get pulled over by police. Come to think of it, I better make sure there isn’t an expiration date on the card for the Zero.
Registration is also paid up until November of this year. Hopefully Zero gets around to picking it up before then. Or heck, just send me the sticker, I don’t mind a two year review! 🙂
For anyone looking at the brakes, J.Juan, and wondering what those are: they’re a Spanish brand of brakes that were purchased by Brembo.
But, for those looking at brakes and wondering how you have such rust on the rear rotor centres after a single year… I would want to do a closer inspection of the rest of the bike’s hardware as even after years of riding I’ve not seen my rotors rust like that as they’re typically SS rotors.
Ah, I forgot to talk about that corrosion. Yeah, I found that part to be pretty weird. My other bikes can stay outside without that happening. Thankfully, the rust hasn’t impacted the motorcycle’s operation, but it’s quite unsightly for such a new machine.
Dunno if this is similar or identical, but I’m told (for cars) that when you’re mostly using regen, surface rust on brakes can happen, and usually brushes off easily with some actual use of the manual brakes.
In my Prius, the easiest way to force it to only use manual brakes is to shift into Neutral.
So if there’s rust on the manual brakes–I’d sooner assume it’s because the regen is doing its job, rather than assuming defective brakes or something.
The rust in this case is on the inside of the rotor where the pads don’t touch. But it’s just surface stuff that could be scrubbed off. So it’s more unsightly than anything actually bad.
I have a sloped driveway, so occasionally I allow my Prius to roll backwards in neutral and use the brakes to clean them off. I can hear when they are clean or not.
I’m kind of suspicious of stainless rotors.
It’s funny how when you have a Zero or similarly capable ‘lectrobike, it just becomes the default bike for day-to-day riding. They’re just so easy and pleasant, especially when it’s hot and traffic-y.
The quietness is on another level. There’s nothing quite like being in the zone cruising down a two-lane country road with nothing but good tunes and wind lapping against your helmet. I love a great motorcycle soundtrack, but the lack of one is also marvelous.
(And of course the convenient fast-forward feature is nice.)
but… but… loud pipes save lives, or so I was told…
I love the idea of a charged, ready to go machine whenever I have the urge. But if you are not going to commute, it is hard to justify the price for just weekend jaunts.
An expensive but fun day-trip / trail-runner.
Sounds like a blast, and it would be pretty awesome if it had the fast charger and the infrastructure was there.
RE: Side stand failure: I’ve successfully inserted coins (quarters, pennies, whatever you have) between side stand spring coils to stretch it enough for install. It also isn’t that hard to bypass a sidestand switch on any gas motorcycle I’ve had (cut leads and short them in the worst case scenario), but i could see it being more of a space-aged headache on an electric bike.
Thanks for the great review!
WHY DIDN’T I KNOW ABOUT THE COIN TRICK? That’s amazing!
Easy enough at home, but we don’t all travel with $5.00 worth of nickels. Now that I think about it, it might be worth keeping a roll of quarters in a tool kit. You could also use them in a pinch at that vending machine in the middle of nowhere that doesn’t take credit cards.
Or use them at the laundromat, just in case a close call in high-speed traffic creates the need for clean clothing for the trip home.
Thank you!
Normally, I would do a “get me home” hack to a bike, but I don’t want to do anything that could damage a motorcycle that costs more than my most expensive Smart was brand new. Coins are a fantastic idea! I think I’ll carry some as a just-in-case measure.
I’d be hesitant to hack into a press vehicle, too. Please keep up on the motorcycle content!
It’s a dilemma with charging infrastructure. The most outdoorsy places that EV’s would be perfect for visiting have the worst charging infrastructure.
If they don’t pick up the bike in a year is it just yours now?