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I Think Panhard Specially Bred Miniature Dogs And Humans To Do This

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When it comes to old car brochures, one recurring theme is the importance of demonstrating the volume of a trunk. This comes up over and over again, and it makes sense, as people like to travel with stuff, and stuff has to go somewhere in the vehicle in order to, you know, move. I think some scientists demonstrated this in the early 1900s. So, carmakers liked to show just how much stuff one could cram into a given trunk in their brochures. And sometimes they did this in weird ways, like Panhard, which I now suspect of using some extremely questionable at best methods.

Usually, trunk volume was shown by very carefully packing it full of suitcases, carefully tetris’d into place by experts in the field, a small cadre of people so good at trunk-packing they were routinely flown in private jets and zeppelins to trunk-packing jobs, where they were treated like royalty.

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I know you’ve seen some of their work over the decades; one doesn’t forget work like this:

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Photo: NSU
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Photo: Renault
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Photo: Ford UK
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Photo: Polski Fiat

Stunning work, right? Well, trunk-packing like that didn’t come cheaply, and not all carmakers could afford it. You’d think they could just hire an illustrator to draw or paint an incredibly well-packed trunk, right? Sure, we could do that now, but the concept of drawing objects in a commercially-available automobile trunk that were not actually based on an actual packed trunk was decreed as illegal by international law and codified by the International Bureau of Weights and Measures (IBWM).

This means you could not just draw a bunch of suitcases in a trunk that would be hilariously small in reality and expect to get away with it. However, there was a pretty big loophole: if a company was willing to actually make sub-scale suitcases and pack them into a trunk, the setup could be certified by an IBWM representative, and then an illustration of those purpose-built suitcases or whatever could be commissioned. Here’s an example:

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Photo: Goliath

A Goliath, despite its name, was not a large car. Those suitcases would have been quite small! Also, in this illustration, where is that guy planning to put that last case?

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Photo: Goliath

So, as you can see, there were ways around this rule. Which brings us to the Panhard Dyna Z brochures, some of which just used the usual make-little-suitcases-and-draw-those approach:

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Illustration: Panhard

Those suitcases in this cutaway would have been good to hold, like two sandwiches apiece, because the Dyna Z, while very cool and advanced, was not a big car. Here, you can get a sense of scale by watching this video of me, not a big man, with this Dyna Z, not a big car:

 

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It sure is a charming car, though!

Anyway, eventually, Panhard got tired of just making little suitcases, and moved on to more daring displays of trunk volume, like this:

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Illustration: Panhard

Oh wow; we have a little kid, a ball, and what appears to be a collie all just hanging out in that trunk, just enjoying that trunk life. But let’s look at an actual Dyna Z trunk:

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Photo: ClassicCars.com

Does anyone have a banana? Let’s get a banana in there for scale. I think I have one somewhere in these pants:

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Photo: ClassicCars.com

(and, yes, fantastic taillights on these things.)

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There we go. As you can see, it’s a decent-sized trunk, but by no means huge. And it sure as hell seems to small for what seems to be – based on the limb proportions – a kid of like 7 to 9 or so and at least an adolescent collie to just be hanging out in there.

So how did Panhard pull this off, given the strict requirements of trunk size representation of the era?

Well – and this has never actually been proven, just to cover my ass – it seems that Panhard may have employed some controversial genetic engineering/breeding programs/chemical manipulations to produce significantly sub-scale children, dogs, and balls.

Rumor has it that one child, known as Dyna-HB-008, was the only surviving product of their breeding program, and stood only 21″ tall, despite having the proportions of a much larger child. Panhard kept this child sequestered from the media, reportedly treating him well, but it’s still a somewhat tragic existence.

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Illustration: Panhard

Eventually, Dyna-HB-008 was released to the Soviet space program, where he became the pilot of the Soviet Union’s first successful lunar rover, Lunokhod 1 in 1970. Reports suggest he remains living on the moon to this day, subsisting on a strain of lunar sorghum specially genetically engineered to grow in the lunar soil and supplies from bi-monthly resupply ships. Most reports suggest this was a voluntary choice, as his incredibly secluded childhood left him uneasy among other people, and the moon’s low population was appealing to him.

He’s best known to most people for writing the book Tuesdays With Morrie under the pen name “Mitch Albom”

Eventually, the IBWM dropped the requirements for portraying trunk volume, in part due to controversies stemming from Panhard’s ethically-dubious attempts around the requirements. Today, CGI and AI can create luggage and collies and people of any size and scale to pack into a car trunk. You can’t trust any pictures of trunks today as a result.

Is this progress? Who knows.

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Dodsworth
Dodsworth
5 days ago

Excuse the crudity of this model. It’s not to scale.

Carlos Ferreira (FR)
Carlos Ferreira (FR)
5 days ago

Huh? Is that an SNCASE SE.5000 Baroudeur in the last poster? The plane without a conventional landing that took off and landed like a WW2 Me 163 rocket-powered fighter?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SNCASE_Baroudeur

Sir Digby Chicken Ceasar
Sir Digby Chicken Ceasar
5 days ago

It would appear that mom there was part of this miniature breeding program as well, because, when standing, her chin is about level with the top of the closed trunk.

Andy Individual
Andy Individual
5 days ago

These were not huge like American cars of the day. You’d be lucky to fit one dead hooker and maybe their pooch and a toy in those trunks.

Sklooner
Sklooner
5 days ago

Obviously falling down the well caused Lassie to shrink

Luxobarge
Luxobarge
5 days ago
Reply to  Sklooner

It could just be a regular-sized Shetland Sheepdog.

No idea if they make Shetland Boys, too.

Mr E
Mr E
5 days ago

That’s all well and good, but could Carlos Ghosn fit inside?

Collegiate Autodidact
Collegiate Autodidact
5 days ago

Ha, yeah, the Dyna Z (as well as its later reiterations, the PL17 & the 24CT/24BT) is not a big car and that illustration does indeed exaggerate th cavernousness of the Dyna’s trunk. However, it’s not a small car, either. It’s actually surprisingly roomy for its size despite the confines inherent to jelly mold designs.
My kid & I have a 1954 Dyna Z that’s actually virtually identical in many ways, including the color, to the one at the Lane Motor Museum that JT drives in the video, though the museum’s Dyna is in far better shape. We’re working on getting ours back on the road though it’s presently at a lull as my kid recently started a new career several states away so I’m just waiting on whenever my kid is in town for the project to proceed. It needs a lot of work but it’s actually quite complete, albeit being somewhat cosmetically challenged, and pretty much only needs a good sorting to be roadworthy.
A total restoration can wait, especially since it’s more fun to drive a roadworthy beater than to stand around looking at an idle garage queen.
When we first acquired the Dyna Z we had a 1970 Volvo 144 (four-door sedan) and a 1985 VW Jetta 1.6D (also a four-door sedan) in the driveway (the former has since succumbed to rust, alas, and the latter, my beloved DD, was totalled, also alas, by a damn jerk running a red light, yeah, I’m still salty about that) and it was surprising to see just how similar in dimensions the Dyna Z was to those two cars. I don’t have any pictures online of that fleet, at least not yet, but the Volvo 140 series is basically the same as the Volvo 240 series which is far more familiar to far more people so that gives you all a good idea of the actual size of the Dyna Z. Just that its jelly mold design does make for some modicum of cargo & passenger space constraints.
However, 6 people can fit just fine inside though it’d be more comfortable for just 4 or even 5. And the *actual* trunk is indeed quite spacious, as it extends fairly far back horizontally, just that, again, it’s actually not so cavernous as to allow a normal-size child & a normal-size dog to fit like that in the illustration.
The slogan in that brochure, “6 LITRES 130 KM/H 6 PLACES,” refers to its fuel efficiency (6 liters per 100 km or about 39-40 mpg), its top speed (130 kmh is about 80 mph!!), and its passenger capacity, respectively.
The first two attributes are partly due to the early Dyna Z being *all* aluminum (later ones had steel bodies with some aluminum components such as hood & trunk lid and the last ones were all steel) so it weighs only 700 kg or about 1500 pounds which was easy enough for the surprisingly powerful sub-liter engine to propel to surprisingly high speeds with surprising fuel efficiency. Plus, the Dyna Z does have a remarkably low drag coefficient; some sources give it as about 0.26!!
All in all, the Panhard Dyna Z is indeed a remarkable car 🙂

Last edited 5 days ago by Collegiate Autodidact
Kevin Rhodes
Kevin Rhodes
5 days ago

I love that ’50s/’60s giant car/tiny people ad aesthetic. Some of the American car ads, if the car was actually to scale would have required cars with wide load signs.

You would need three tiny people indeed to fit three-across in a Panhard. Perhaps three Parisian models? Who live exclusively on cigarettes, expresso, and heroin.

Collegiate Autodidact
Collegiate Autodidact
5 days ago
Reply to  Kevin Rhodes

Oh, three people, even typical ‘Muricans, can indeed fit three across in a Panard Dyna Z just fine, no problem (source: I have one myself so I know first-hand) though it can get a bit cozy if all three people are ample-sized. It’s not at all like what you described so hyperbolically.
And the pedals are offset slightly to the right so the driver would have to sit more to the left than is ideal if a third person is sitting in the middle but it’s not untenable. The ergonomics are a little odd, all right, but quite typical for that era.

Kevin Rhodes
Kevin Rhodes
5 days ago

I mean, you COULD sit three across in my Spitfire too…

Collegiate Autodidact
Collegiate Autodidact
5 days ago
Reply to  Kevin Rhodes

Ha, yeah, but how feasible would it be to drive the Spitfire? Possible, yeah, but for, say, an actual road trip? Whereas it’s eminently possible to do so with a Dyna Z and was indeed commonly done.
When I was in high school a classmate (who was 6′ 5″!!) had a Porsche 914 and one night he gave me (average size) and *two* friends (only slightly smaller) a ride home with the targa top still in place. Mighty uncomfortable & mighty unsafe but we did it…
Fun fact: the Guinness Book of World Records has categories for stuffing a classic Mini and stuffing a classic VW Beetle with the Mini record being 27 people and the Beetle record being *only* 20 people.

Kevin Rhodes
Kevin Rhodes
5 days ago

I wouldn’t take the Spitfire on a road trip solo. I like to be able to walk when I get there. 🙂 It’s a car for fun in small doses. I wouldn’t take a Dyna Z on one either, at 6′ 2″ and 300ish on a good day, being rather spoiled for such thing today. Neat car though.

But in my youth, I have done three-up in the Spitfire, with my brother and his kid, when kid was small enough to sit behind the seats. Surprising amount of room back there actually. Now the safety nazis would clutch pearls and wail and gnash teeth.

VS 57
VS 57
5 days ago

Wow, interesting call out to Mitch. Anyway, you may be misunderstanding what you see as luggage. What you may be seeing is the depiction of the fake luggage wall required to slip people through the borders of Soviet Satellite Countries, a normal pastime of the era.

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
5 days ago

“Eventually, Dyna-HB-008 was released to the Soviet space program, where he became the pilot of the Soviet Union’s first successful lunar rover, Lunokhod 1 in 1970.”

Strange according to my tour guide at the Littlefield tank collection the Soviets had their own tiny people for their fleet of low profile battle tanks. Which should come as no surprise, after all if there was one thing the Soviet Union was great at it was producing shortages.

Hugh Crawford
Hugh Crawford
4 days ago
Reply to  Cheap Bastard

Then you will enjoy this.
https://youtu.be/53-HdUwcX1c
Made by the Holt brothers in Stockton California, better known for inventing the Caterpillar tractor.

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
4 days ago
Reply to  Hugh Crawford

I was expecting 2000 clowns to come tumbling out.

Ash78
Ash78
5 days ago

Shirley Temple and a Shelty trying to pass as Haley Mills and a Collie?

NOT ON MY WATCH!

Timbales
Timbales
5 days ago
Twobox Designgineer
Twobox Designgineer
5 days ago
Reply to  Timbales

That’s right, we need vehicles with Bondi Blue transparent rear quarters!

Last edited 5 days ago by Twobox Designgineer
Rad Barchetta
Rad Barchetta
5 days ago

Dyna-HB-008 was concocted from the DNA of the three people in the front seat of the Panhard.

A. Barth
A. Barth
5 days ago

I don’t want to alarm anyone, but the Goliath had ghost hinges!

Look at this picture: https://images-stag.jazelc.com/uploads/theautopian-m2en/cs_goliathtrunk3.jpg

The hinges are translucent! Frankly ghost hinges would be necessary to allow the trunk to close without crushing that top case, but it’s still a little odd.

Twobox Designgineer
Twobox Designgineer
5 days ago
Reply to  A. Barth

Ghost right fender, too. Looks like the top case was overlayed on transparent film, and despite the fact that it would have also gone right thru the trunk lid, had you been able to close it.

Hugh Crawford
Hugh Crawford
4 days ago

That’s nothing compared to the 1939-40 Pontiac Ghost Cars.

https://www.designboom.com/design/pontiac-ghost-car-06-21-2020/

I saw one of them in the Smithsonian, or maybe it was Greenfield Village. I was very young, and was quite impressed. Back in the 1960s Bell had a color to sample program sort of like Porsche does where they would make you a one off phone and any color you wanted for some amount of money. I talked to my parents into ordering a custom telephone made in clear plastic, but Western Electric couldn’t make one that looked good enough and after about six months, they sent us a letter saying they were sorry couldn’t provide the phone for us.

Years later I worked with an ex bell engineer who I told the story to, and he got a strange look in his eye and said that the clear abs phone would not pass the drop test. Apparently the clear phone was a project of some notoriety.

Twobox Designgineer
Twobox Designgineer
2 days ago
Reply to  Hugh Crawford

I would love to see that Pontiac in person.

Ash78
Ash78
5 days ago

Lassie! Kimmy! How did you get stuck in this well…-appointed luxury vehicle with such a cavernous trunk?

StillNotATony
StillNotATony
5 days ago

Anybody else wondering if that’s Fred Jones’ (from Scooby-Doo) wife, kid, and first dog? They mysteriously disappeared, and he press-ganged three teens and their dog into a never ending quest to find them.

Nlpnt
Nlpnt
5 days ago
Reply to  StillNotATony

You got the timeline all wrong, that *is* Fred, about 10 years before he met Velma, Daphne and Shaggy.

Twobox Designgineer
Twobox Designgineer
5 days ago
Reply to  Nlpnt

Actually that’s Fred and Shaggy, before Shaggy transitioned to Human.

RecoveringGTV6MaratonaOwner
RecoveringGTV6MaratonaOwner
4 days ago
Reply to  StillNotATony

Nice! I haven’t seen or heard the term “press gang” used since reading the Aubrey–Maturin series of books years ago, including Master and Commander. Thanks for reminding me of those great books and the Napoleonic Wars-era nautical terminology I learned within them. There is an abundance of those terms and period naval methodology in each book. I highly recommend them to fellow history buffs, sailors, or those that just like great Adventure books.

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