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I’m Buying A 76-Year-Old Plymouth Sight-Unseen From A Thousand Miles Away And I Have No Idea What I’m Doing

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I’ve been wanting an old American car for years and thanks to the legendary Stephen Walter Gossin, I’m finally pulling the trigger on a classic. Soon, I will be driving about a thousand miles out to North Carolina to rescue a 1948 Plymouth Special DeLuxe based only on Gossin’s pictures and videos. I have no actual idea what I’m doing and I’m excited about it.

Most of our readers know that I’m a caretaker of several unreliable German cars. However, I’ve long had a soft spot for vintage Americana. I’m the kind of person who would love to take some old American iron down Route 66. Sadly, now that I have driven most of Route 66 and discovered that there isn’t a ton of the original road remaining, I now know my dream can’t happen the way I picture it.

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Still, I dream of hopping behind the wheel of a car much older than I am and just setting off toward the sunset. This is why a lot of Mercedes’ Marketplace Madness contains vintage American cars. Those are cars I’d love to hit the blacktop in! David Tracy gave me a taste of my dream by letting me drive his old rusty Valiant around Detroit.

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I didn’t care that the windshield threatened to frost over and the old Valiant had relatively few horses left in its stable, it was one of the more memorable drives in my life. I need another hit of that classic car driving.

At the same time, I’m an avid viewer of Vice Grip Garage. I’ve been watching Derek Bieri rescue old cars for longer than I’ve been writing professionally. I’ve been a VGG fan for longer than I’ve even known my wife. In addition to my dreams of driving a fantastic vintage American car, I’ve long wanted to get one back running again with my own two hands. Thanks to Stephen Walter Gossin and a fella in North Carolina, it’s time to make dreams come true.

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The Car

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So, Gossin has found a compound of old cars out in North Carolina. There are enough cars out there that each of the Autopian staff could have a car of their own to save. While many of them are vintage American steeds, the elderly man who owns them also had his hands on cute French cars and even a German motorcycle.

Each of these cars has a story, as does the man himself. I still don’t really know the full details yet, but you bet both Gossin and I will tell you everything because the stories of a car’s owner are just as touching as the car itself.

For now, what you need to know is that the guy is a real enthusiast and loved these cars dearly. However, the man’s health is declining and he’s no longer able to keep his beloved fleet alive. The vehicles parked on his property haven’t run in around five or seven or so years and nature in North Carolina is trying to reclaim them as their own.

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Gossin and I want to continue the stories of at least two of the cars. You’ll hear about his rescue in time. I’m not going to spoil any of it because it has more twists and turns than an M. Night Shyamalan film. For now, let’s look at what will hopefully be my loot in a week or two of time.

What you’re looking at here is a 1948 Plymouth Special DeLuxe. Production of the Special DeLuxe started in the 1930s as the upmarket sibling to Plymouth’s lower sixes. Like much of the rest of the automotive industry, Plymouth paused production after 1942 to aid in the World War II effort.

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After the war, production of civilian models ramped back up. The vehicles constructed immediately after the war had minor updates, but were otherwise pre-war cars. That didn’t stop America’s automakers from finding ways to drum up interest in their vehicles. Plymouth said its post-war models were “Four Years Better Than Before” and that it was “Chrysler Corporation’s Number One Car.”

Plymouth was particularly proud of how quiet the 95 HP 217.8 cubic inch L-Head straight-six was and how reliably it started with just the flick of the ignition. The automaker also said it moved the spark coil to the top of the engine, allowing for shorter wires to the distributor and better spark.

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Then there’s the design, where Plymouth touted the vehicle’s stainless steel trim and grille. The hood ornament is also interesting as it is a mix of chrome and plastic. Stepping up to the Special DeLuxe added sun visors, a glove box, full windshield wipers, and neat third window vents for four-door sedans, which had sweet rear-hinged doors.

The one out in North Carolina seems like a great project. Gossin has been on the ground with a camera and found a lot of good news. Yes, the car has all kinds of dirt, grime, and growth on it, but Gossin tells me the body is remarkably solid and the frame underneath also looks really good. You can tell that the owner loved this car and tried to keep it in tip-top shape. He couldn’t find any obvious bad rust and even the floor appears to be all there. This isn’t like a Midwest car with structural carpet and a Swiss cheese frame. I bet one good wash will bring out something pretty decent, too. Even the white wall tires are still holding wind.

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Of course, not everything is perfect. Gossin tells me the car is missing a headliner, the dashboard is pretty worn, and the overall interior is a bit past its prime. But you know what? I’ll take putting in a new headliner and having the seats recovered over trying to fix a frame with holes in it. Something else promising is the claim that the vehicle last ran five years ago. This isn’t like a true VGG-style rescue where the car hasn’t run in three decades. I wouldn’t be surprised if cleaning the carburetor and the fuel tank gets it running again.

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Oh, I’m getting excited again. I asked Gossin to go ahead and lock in that car for me. I don’t care that I haven’t seen it with my own eyes, I want it. This is the gangster-looking classic I want to finish this summer driving.

The Plan

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Alright, so I like making plans. They rarely go as I expect, but at least I tried, right?

Gossin is putting the pieces together for the car he wants to save from the compound. Again, I’m not spoiling the details, but when all of that work is finished, we’ll both descend onto the North Carolina property to liberate our chosen cars. Jason will be joining us for an awesome Autopian crossover episode.

Now, I’ve never purchased a car that doesn’t run, so this is new territory for me. My wife recommended we do things exactly as Derek from VGG does. If you’re not familiar with this strategy, I’ll explain. Derek often arrives on location with a bunch of tools and the expectation of driving the vehicle hundreds of miles back home. He is then forced to get the car working just good enough to drive the 500 or 800 or so miles back to Tennessee.

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It makes for a high level of entertainment and is inspiring, too. Derek’s cars often feed fuel from boat tanks placed in passenger floorboards and stop with brakes cobbled together.

I’m not sure I want to go that nuts on my first-ever car rescue. Derek knows what he’s doing and he also often has places to store a car if it doesn’t make it all of the way home. If we broke down in that Plymouth we’d be stuck who knows where for who knows how long. The car’s located in Garner, at least 865 miles and over 14 hours from home. The routes served up by Google Maps change every time I look up the drive, so I’m expecting somewhere around 900 miles each way.

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My plan is to come down with a truck and a U-Haul car hauler, and then hand the fella $1,000 for the new-to-me ride. I might try to get the Plymouth started just for giggles, but it’s coming back home on the trailer. In case I can’t get the car started right there, I’ll be bringing a trailer ball-based electric winch. I’ve watched David suffer with come-alongs for long enough to feel like I’ll take my chances with an underpowered electric winch. Besides, I’ll have Sheryl and Stephen to help the winch along, too.

From there, I’ll bring the Plymouth back home, where it’ll get a deep clean before I even pop open the power barn. I already have a space picked out for the Plymouth — the one previously taken up by a nightmare Volkswagen Passat TDI wagon — where I’ll turn some wrenches. With luck, maybe I could get the car running and driving before the end of the summer.

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Speaking about getting the car running, I recently discovered that the Special DeLuxe is not only a 6-volt car, but the electrical system is configured in such a way that the vehicle’s ground is positive rather than negative. From what I can tell, this will mean needing to be careful with what I’m doing under the hood, but it shouldn’t be a dealbreaker. I should be able to convert the car later on, anyway.

So, that’s my plan. I’m going to drive down, hope to load this vintage iron onto a trailer and clean it all up back here in Illinois. I don’t want to go crazy with modifications or anything like that, but to enjoy the Special DeLuxe as the classic it is. This car has a story and I want to preserve it. It’s even going to be put into a garage for the first time in years.

Am I Missing Anything?

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Alright, here’s where I turn things to you.

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I’ve rescued plenty of barn-find motorcycles to have a decent idea of what I’m doing, but I’ve never done this with a car before. I’ve also never owned a vehicle older than 1972, either. As I want to be as prepared as I can be, I want to know what I should consider. Am I missing anything in my plans? Is there something I need to know about a car from the 1940s?

Regardless of what happens, I’m stoked. I’ve been planning this trip for about three months now and it’s finally about to happen. I’m going to own my first truly old car! Big thanks are due to both David and Stephen of course. With luck, you’ll spot me driving around Chicagoland in more than just Smart Fortwos and crusty VeeDubs.

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Theotherotter
Theotherotter
4 months ago

I love old American iron like this too, and would love to have one one day. My ideal is a ’53 Chevy sedan, as that’s what my grandmother drove from 1953 all the way up to her death in 1987. There’s one here in Chicago that I’d probably buy in a minute if I knew it was for sale and if I had any play-with-cars money left.

A car like this is really simple, and not hard to work on. You already found out about the 6V positive-ground electrical system. It may have left-handed threads on the left-side wheel studs – I think Chrysler started doing that just before the war. Change all the fluids, drain and replace the gas, maybe rebuild the carb, check the brake shoes and wheel cylinders, lube the chassis. Not a lot to it.

Steven, what else does he have? Any early 50s GM cars?

Stephen Walter Gossin
Stephen Walter Gossin
4 months ago
Reply to  Theotherotter

8 total cars, all Plymouths and DeSotos from ’46-’48. Mercedes is taking the best one (it was driven to its parking spot right before the pandemic), but the next-best is a “ran when parked” Fluid Drive DeSoto for $500. Comes with an extra engine and transmission, generator, wheels, radio, etc.

The seller is legit and is a true Autopian. He doesn’t have long in this world and is very honest, truthful about the condition of each car/part and has a very limited need for cars or money. It’s sad, but we’re fulfilling his wishes in a way so that these cars aren’t scrapped unceremoniously.

Stephen Walter Gossin
Stephen Walter Gossin
4 months ago

I’m super fired up and pumped for Mercedes being able to make a small part of her dream come true!

The elderly gentlemen that owns the property is in the sunset phase of life and has keys and titles for all cars shown in the background. $500 each and they’re all complete, are rust-free Southern cars, a few will run (with fresh gas/carb clean/fluids) and all glass/bodies are good/solid. The guy has a shed with a teal BMW Boxer bike, vacuum tube radios, spare engines, transmissions, wheels, boxes and boxes of parts, etc. for these cars.

The goal is to prevent as many as possible from going to the local scrapyard. If any Autopian friends are nearby and have $500, excellent taste in cars and a sense of adventure then come join us!

Last edited 4 months ago by Mercedes Streeter
A. Barth
A. Barth
4 months ago

If I may ask, what can you tell me about the BMW bike?

And are the contents of the shed for sale as well?

Stephen Walter Gossin
Stephen Walter Gossin
4 months ago
Reply to  A. Barth

It’s teal, it’s complete, it’s been sitting in a shed on the property for years. The owner was an NYC motorcycle cop that used to be an officer of the 2-wheeled police escorts for those famous enough to warrant one.

Everything is for sale, since the owner will be moving to an assisted living facility shortly. He and I talked for hours and he is looking for Autopians such as us to take over where he’s leaving off with his collection.

All my social media contact info is in my profile and on all my articles – message me and I can send picts. Prices are stupid low since money has a lesser meaning in that stage of life. He just wants to see them go to folks that can appreciate them.

FloridaNative
FloridaNative
4 months ago

I am SSSOOOOO tempted and I am not far away in VA. But, I love my spouse more than cars!

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Geoff Buchholz
Geoff Buchholz
4 months ago

A Torch/Mercy/Stevie G crossover episode! Yes!

James Colangelo
James Colangelo
4 months ago

Oh man.. this is going to be interesting. Have you sold off any other projects yet?

No Kids, Just Bikes
No Kids, Just Bikes
4 months ago

If you’re thirsty three hours into your drive, Seven Sisters is a neat place in Wytheville (pronounced With-ville, not ‘wythe’). I imagine it’s the only place in SWVA that has quite-regular drag shows. First beer (or seltzer) is on me if our schedules mesh!

VS 57
VS 57
4 months ago

Have been doing this kind of thing for a very long time with cars/trucks/tractors/boats. All I can add for advice is to replace the ground cable and perhaps add a second to bolster the ground path, and don’t switch the radio on and then forget that it’s on. You will experience enough odd smells and strange issues, no need to add a radio reactor core meltdown.

Car Guy - RHM
Car Guy - RHM
4 months ago

That era of Plymouth actually has a pretty decent front suspension design. Remember that one side most likely has left hand threaded wheel studs.

Tim R
Tim R
4 months ago

With all of you in town, we should have another Triangle Autopian meetup. I’m sure there would be a line to tug on Torch’s floppy tube!

Sid Bridge
Sid Bridge
4 months ago

This is awesome. Doing the same thing with my project BRAT right now and had the first signs of life earlier this week when the parking lights started working. Really close to the first start.

Griznant
Griznant
4 months ago

If you like VGG, please also check out ColdWarMotors on Youtube as well. Scott and the gang have a soft spot for Plymouths (and anything else with wheels) and as they say about those old flathead sixes, “They’re a hammer.” They’ll just work and do what they need to nearly forever. Simple and reliable. Should be a fun car, and good luck!

Ramblin' Gamblin' Man
Ramblin' Gamblin' Man
4 months ago

I think that it is awesome that a young person like Mercedes even has an interest in such an old vehicle and is going to revive it! I am very much looking forward to the upcoming articles from both SWG and Mercedes

( Shout out to SWG as well, for his mission to save old vehicles)

CanyonCarver
CanyonCarver
4 months ago

I am very much jealous. After years and years of watching Roadkill, Roadkill Garage, Derek on Youtube and Roadworthy Rescues along with numerous other shows of the like, I have been wanting to do exactly what you’re doing for ever.

Looking forward to the updates and good luck!

Arrest-me Red
Arrest-me Red
4 months ago

Learn how to listen to a car to find out the problems. No diag computer here 🙂

Also be prepared for the cheapest part to not let the car run. Replace that first.

Finally learn about points, many people don’t understand tune ups were a real thing on these rides.

Gubbin
Gubbin
4 months ago
Reply to  Arrest-me Red

I get being able to listen for changes while tweaking timing and such, but what’s a good way to learn about particular noises like rod knock?

Rust Buckets
Rust Buckets
4 months ago
Reply to  Gubbin

Hopefully you don’t have to learn about noises like rod knock.

Rod knock is a really bad noise. Even if you don’t have the experience to know exactly what the noise is, you will definitely know that it is a bad noise. You don’t have to be a mechanic or even a car enthusiast to recognize it as a Bad Thing.

Rod knock sounds like a hollow, deep clunking knocking from deep down in the depths of the engine. Annoyingly, a broken flex plate usually makes exactly the same noise.

Arrest-me Red
Arrest-me Red
4 months ago
Reply to  Arrest-me Red

It is like hearing this. Most people are that I can’t believe they destroyed it. I hear that motor is about to self destruct. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6l1KoNkqrw&t=92s

Codfangler
Codfangler
4 months ago

The Virginia Museum of Transportation https://www.vmt.org/attractions/outside-railyard is located in Roanoke, Virginia, which is not too far off your direct route. In addition to some cars, they have some trains, which seem to be another of your interests.

The Old Cranks Motorcar Museum & Ice Cream Shop in Galax, Virginia, http://oldcranks.net is close to your projected route and might be worth a visit if you are there on Saturday or Sunday or can use your influence as a renowned journalist to get in “by Appointment.” This is a fairly small museum, but you might be able to be allowed to go into the area where they store, and restore, the vehicles that are not on display. I did not see any trains there, but the museum is located on Railroad Avenue. I did not try the ice cream.

I have not been to either of these museums since 2018, but their websites indicate that they are still open.

No Kids, Just Bikes
No Kids, Just Bikes
4 months ago
Reply to  Codfangler

My mind is blown. I go to Creek Bottom in Galax fairly regularly and didn’t know about Old Cranks!

TheDrunkenWrench
TheDrunkenWrench
4 months ago

I love this. It’s also very responsible to simply be loading it up and coming home.

I have one note to make. I noticed you said “truck”. WHY is the V10 Touareg not fulfilling it’s destiny towing this home?!

TheDrunkenWrench
TheDrunkenWrench
4 months ago

You’re already not gambling on the revival, now is the time to gamble on the tow rig! Think of the added anxiety value to the eventual written story!

TheDrunkenWrench
TheDrunkenWrench
4 months ago

The super duty supersedes your duty to deliver automotive insanity? What a world!

I don’t blame you though, I’d probably do the same, given the choice.

Lew Schiller
Lew Schiller
4 months ago

As someone who has been down this road more times than I should…good luck.

Devin Sykes
Devin Sykes
4 months ago

Some good advice in the comments. Especially about buying reprint service manual and doing the brakes which will be 100% not working. haha

I currently own some early post war ChryCos myself and will offer this:
You’ll need a hub puller to remove the rear drums, and I believe these have the Lockheed brakes where there are two wheel cylinders in each front drum. You will be happy to learn all these parts are easily available. The 6v pos ground setups are totally fine for this car, you shouldn’t have any problems with it as long as you have the nice fat batt cables. I have it turning over a 331 firepower car.

You picked a good first one I think in terms of reparability, and they are rugged, fun to drive little cars. Just don’t expect to do interstate speeds as they have like 3.73 or 3.90 rear gears and old flat heads do not rev high.

Dennis Ames
Dennis Ames
4 months ago

I had a chance at purchasing a ’47 Plymouth Businessman’s coupe in like 1981. It was parked at a house I used to go by on the High School bus. I later looked at it, and someone has started to put a 350 V8 into and the wiring was all pulled out and I passed. It was one that got away, but this was back before Youtube could show you how to do almost anything. This car has to have mice in it, most likely dead. When cleaning it out, wear gloves and a facemask.
Good Luck and Have Fun!

Jason Hare
Jason Hare
4 months ago

Mercedes you will have a lot of fun with this car! I remember working on a 1940s Ford Custom with my friend and his dad who owned the car when I was still in highschool back in the 90s. Those older cars are so interesting. I remember it had a V12 and actually had automatic windows (some type of vacuum system). It will be a lot of work but the thinmgs you will discover with that car will be so rewarding. Good luck!

Balloondoggle
Balloondoggle
4 months ago
Reply to  Jason Hare

I’d love to see an engineering write-up here about vacuum operated automatic windows. That sounds fascinating.

Chronometric
Chronometric
4 months ago

You are missing something in your plan… me. I have rescued several sleeping old wrecks, I have experience with 40s era cars, and would be willing to drive over and assist. I’ve met Jason a few times but I’d love to meet Mercedes and Gossin.

In the last few years I helped friends save a Chevelle, a Jag E-type, a BMW E12, and my Corvair, all of which are now fully operational.

I will not address the sanity of the mission because I know the heart wants what the heart wants and life is experienced in the striving. I’m free (monetarily and temporally), handy, fun to be around,
or at least, not too annoying, and I make good margaritas. If you would like some help, just ring my bell.

Abe Froman
Abe Froman
4 months ago

Focus on cleaning and getting the engine/brakes to function first. Don’t take anything else apart yet. It’s (relatively) complete right now. As soon as you delve into “I’m going to fix X” and it requires any sort of disassembly, you will assuredly uncover something else that needs to be done. Don’t go down that road until you are prepared for “this is going down to the frame and back”.

A complete but crusty running/driving car is still loads of fun. A disassembled car is fun, but you can’t drive it anywhere.

Captain Muppet
Captain Muppet
4 months ago
Reply to  Abe Froman

The lesson I learned from getting an old Landrover Lightweight running again was: fix the brakes first.

The first drive ended with driving up a pile of gravel to stop as we had no brakes.

MikeInTheWoods
MikeInTheWoods
4 months ago

Oh Mercedes, you are about to have some serious fun. I’ve done this a few times. Cleaning out a barn find and polishing it up is so cathartic. I have many tips, but #0000 steel wool will shine chrome up in a jiffy (unless it’s pitted). Take the seats out and set them in the sun, wear a mask due to mice, and go to town on the interior. You can always sand and repaint the dash later. Once you get it going, always have a fire extinguisher in the car, along with lead additive and extra oil and some hand tools. My 1956 Lincoln was a great ice cream getting machine. Summer cruises with kids, tunes and all the windows down was always a hit. I let other people sit and drive it too, to share the joy. It is not a garage queen after all. All the neighborhood kids drove the 19′ Lincoln around the side streets here. Fun times.

TOSSABL
TOSSABL
4 months ago
Reply to  MikeInTheWoods

I second the fire extinguisher recommendation.
They can help keep major bummers from becoming total catastrophes.

Oldhusky
Oldhusky
4 months ago
Reply to  MikeInTheWoods

Look at this guy. What a mensch. I’m sure at least one of those neighborhood kiddos looks back at driving or riding in your old Lincoln as the seed of their automotive fetish.

MikeInTheWoods
MikeInTheWoods
4 months ago
Reply to  Oldhusky

Why thank you. I also picked up my kids and their friends from school and let all the school kids sit in it, poke around and generally explore the rolling time capsule that it was. Many of our neighborhood kids also got to learn manual transmission driving on our little 2wd Tacoma. The low first gear and light clutch are perfect for beginners. My hope is that the seeds from these experiences will grow into future Autopians.

Greensoul
Greensoul
4 months ago

Mercedes, you are buying a piece of automotive history and going to do your magic on it. That dash board will look FABULOUS after it’s cleaned up. What always cracked me up on these is how the lower doors flare out to cover up a running board. If you don’t have a place to store it after it gets “Mercerdes-a-fied” I’m sure that cool car museum you featured a while back with ordinary cars would find floor space for you to store it for free. Looking forward to seeing what you do with this awesome find..

BeemerBob
BeemerBob
4 months ago

From your map, the best way down here from Indianapolis is to go east on I-70 to Dayton, south on I-75 to US 35. US 35 down to I-64 to I-77 south to I-74 to US 52 south of Mt Airy. To the new Winston-Salem bypass (I think they are calling it NC 74, it exits to the left, lots of construction). To US 421 south to I-40 to the south side of Raleigh. If you need to borrow a Warn 6000 lb winch I have one unattached to anything. Near Jason.

SAABstory
SAABstory
4 months ago

Mercedes, I’m really close to Blacksburg so if you go this way give me a holler. I’ll buy you a beer/cocktail/add to the tetanus fund. I’m also REALLY close to Christiansburg, home of Duncan Imports. That’s a dangerous place.

Looking forward to seeing how this all comes together. Sure it will be epic.

Boulevard_Yachtsman
Boulevard_Yachtsman
4 months ago

What a fun project! I highly recommend picking up an old shop manual such as this one off off ebay. All kinds of great info. in those, especially if you haven’t owned something from that far back. And make sure to throw it in the truck before heading out. Can’t wait for the write-ups!

Freelivin2713
Freelivin2713
4 months ago

This is so awesome! What a great classic Plymouth w/ nice body style and whitewalls. It will be such a great experience

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