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It’s been six whole days since Jaguar revealed its latest “Copy Nothing” ad campaign ahead of the debut of its big electric car reveal at Art Basel next month, and we’ve gone through the full cycle of Internet outrage and counter-outrage. Honestly, I had to check how long ago it was because it feels like we’ve been talking about it for six months.

There have been some who have guessed that it’s all a ploy. A rug-pull. The ultimate setup to get people to care about whatever Jaguar does next. I don’t know specifically what Jaguar is planning, but I’m not sure that this is misdirection. I think this was a genuine effort to get people to see Jaguar as something new, one I think had some good ideas behind it, albeit one that got caught up in our never-ending Internet culture war.

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So my question is stated once, but with two meanings: Is this a real campaign, and if it is, is Jaguar bold enough to stick with it?

Anyone who reads The Morning Dump is probably aware of Volkswagen’s problems. I may not be 100% certain Jaguar is serious about its makeover, but I am, however, 100% certain that Volkswagen is serious about addressing its problems in a severe way that’ll almost certainly involve job cuts in Germany. There was another F1 race in America last night, and yet there’s only one American team. It sounds like F1 is finally serious about letting Cadillac/Andretti into the sport.

Americans are seriously into F1 now, and still seriously into buying anything but sedans, it’s just that they want to pay sedan prices. How’s that going to work?

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Jaguar Copied A Lot Of Things, But I Don’t Blame Them

I feel like the discussion around Jaguar’s rebrand is missing a lot of context. While I agree with Jason’s analysis that the specific choice of imagery is derivative and almost offensively try-hard, the rest of the Internet has dog-piled on the company in a way that’s been both predictable and a little disappointing. It’s a lot of stuff like this:

First, I’m not even sure how this ad is “woke” and not, as Jason points out, just run-of-the-mill ad agency garbage. Second, the assumed creator of the ad has been subject to a lot of terrible targeting by the usual mix of the usual online miscreants. When hatred is your hammer, everything looks like a nail.

The ad has created such a ridiculous and outsized amount of reaction that some have made the assumption that it’s not serious:

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Jaguar Threads

Not to doubt a random person on Threads from Los Angeles (or the others who have espoused this theory), but the way that Jaguar’s leaders are talking about the campaign makes me think they are serious:

Jaguar managing director Rawdon Glover said in an interview with the Financial Times that the intended message had been lost in “a blaze of intolerance” on social media and denied that the promotional video was intended as a “woke” statement.

“If we play in the same way that everybody else does, we’ll just get drowned out. So we shouldn’t turn up like an auto brand,” Glover said.

“We need to re-establish our brand and at a completely different price point so we need to act differently. We wanted to move away from traditional automotive stereotypes.”

In fairness to the critics, it does seem like Jaguar has exchanged one group of stereotypes for another. It’s strange, and off-putting, and not in a way that’s any sort of fun.

In fairness to Jaguar, they had to do this. Jaguar isn’t merely a troubled but well-known organization that’s had a hard time finding success in recent years. Jaguar isn’t the Yankees. Jaguar is the Montreal Expos. They are effectively a non-entity. In the United States, at its peak, Jaguar was selling around 40,000 cars. Last year they couldn’t even sell 9,000.

Do you remember the biggest story about Jaguar this year up until this point? There was a big rumor spread around the Internet in March that the company’s Indian owner, Tata, was killing Jaguar to strengthen Land Rover. This was a misunderstanding due to the brand pausing production in order to shift to building fewer, more expensive niche cars. Think of it as the Rolls-Royce-inization of Jaguar.

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Was this the company’s best move? Maybe, maybe not, but there just weren’t a lot of other options. Tata is not a global entity and isn’t in a great position to share platforms. The most profitable new Jaguars were SUVs, and the company already has a very profitable SUV-maker. Jaguar either had to die, which would be a pity, or it would have to find a way to make money selling fewer cars.

While the backlash was inevitable and, in some ways, probably wanted (when was the last time Elon Musk tweeted about Jaguar?). People are acting like Jaguar is a living thing again. I doubt this is exactly the response Jaguar wanted, but it got a response.

As one ad exec who doesn’t work for Jaguar put it in an AdWeek article on the campaign:

“On Monday almost no one was particularly interested in Jaguar. It’s now Thursday, and millions are waiting for Jaguar to unveil its take on an EV.

“That’s what bold brand moves do—they turn people’s heads, shift their expectations, and yes, cause a bit of discomfort in the process.

People are talking about Jaguar. People are looking forward to the launch of the car. Part of me hopes Jaguar sticks to its guns and keeps doing what it’s doing because trying to appeal to an increasingly tiny slice of buyers with better options wasn’t working. Now it’s trying to connect with an entirely new set of buyers. That’s a dangerous gamble, and I don’t know that it’ll work. At the same time, backing down is unlikely to work, either.

At best, I think Jaguar has to hope the car connects with buyers who find this interesting on an emotional level. The car is the star here and, good or bad, this ad campaign is going to have everyone on the Internet talking about whatever it is Jaguar reveals.

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The car better be good.

‘We Can’t Just Stick A Band-Aid On It’ – VW Brand CEO

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Germany is in crisis. It is heading towards both a literal winter and a figurative one. It’s not clear what will save the company at this point, but job cuts are coming. Ford has already announced job cuts in the country and massive German company Thyssenkrupp is cutting thousands from its steel division.

Volkswagen has been the holdout, though only because it hasn’t quite settled on the scope of cuts in Germany. The cuts are coming.

Per Reuters:

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Volkswagen sees no chance of avoiding layoffs and plant closures in order to cut 4 billion euros ($4.2 billion) in costs, the brand’s chief executive said in a newspaper interview, amid an escalating dispute with workers.

Thomas Schaefer’s comments further deepen a conflict with unions, who have threatened strikes at the carmaker from December and have asked the company to present solutions in ongoing negotiations over pay and capacity that exclude both factory closures and major job cuts.

“Ultimately, any solution must reduce both overcapacity and costs. We can’t just stick a band-aid on it and keep dragging it along. That would come back to bite us later in a serious way,” Schaefer told weekly Welt am Sonntag.

I might try to explain why this has happened to Germany at large at some other point, but I’m not sure I have the interest in getting into the argument quite yet.

Cadillac Might Finally Get To Race In F1

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Andretti Global and Cadillac logo lockup

I was more than a little mad when Formula One indicated that Cadillac/Andretti racing would be left out of the sport. It seemed random and a little cruel given that one of the teams is Kick Sauber.

Now it seems like Cadillac will get in relatively soon, albeit via Ferrari engines.

From Jenna Fryer at the AP:

The team will be called Cadillac F1 and powered by Ferrari engines when it enters the sport in 2026. General Motors is expected to complete its own Cadillac power unit ahead of the 2028 season.

Multiple industry insiders spoke to the AP about the grid expansion on condition of anonymity because an announcement ahead of Saturday night’s Las Vegas Grand Prix could potentially steal the spotlight from the showcase event on the F1 calendar.

F1 is now American-owned, which means that the Department of Justice’s antitrust investigation into the sport is something it has to take seriously. I wonder if this doesn’t just conveniently solve that problem.

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People Want SUVs But Want To Pay Sedan Prices

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Here’s a fun stat, for the first time since Edmunds started tracking it, the first 10 months of the year saw “car” sales hit just 19%, the lowest ever. At the same time, SUVs hit 58%, the highest ever. That’s good news for most automakers as SUVs and crossovers tend to carry a price premium. That’s not-so-good for consumers as the Detroit Free Press reports:

“As passenger vehicles lose further popularity and drop to their lowest share of sales we’ve ever seen, automakers continue to bolster their SUV lineups to meet consumers with vehicle types they prefer,” said Jessica Caldwell, Edmunds’ head of insights. “What’s complicating things for the industry is that this ongoing transformation is set against a challenging landscape of rising costs and limited affordability. Producing the bigger vehicles that consumers desire at prices they can actually afford is an arduous task that every automaker is already grappling with in the current market.”

This is where vehicles like the Nissan Kicks and Chevy Trax tend to shine, although I think there’s still gotta be some kind of market for actual cars in the United States.

What I’m Listening To While Writing TMD

I’ve always liked this Moloko song “Fun For Me” because it sounds like the answer to the question: What if Portishead was goofy? It turns out I’m good with that for exactly one song, and no more.

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The Big Question

How serious is Jaguar?

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Jonathan Hendry
Jonathan Hendry
1 month ago

If they were joking it would be “Jaguar managing director Rawdog Glover”

A PHEV Named Phevelyn
A PHEV Named Phevelyn
1 month ago

I have thought way too much about this Jaguar (or is it jaGuar now?) ad/relaunch ad and I have a cynical hypothesis – Jaguar is angling for wealthy liberals that won’t buy a Tesla anymore.

They talk about how they want to copy nothing and be unique. What electric car has been copied the most? Tesla! All those cars that have come out that are a “Tesla Killer” never turn out to be that, at all. Legacy automakers keep trying to use the Tesla formula – EV drivetrain, large central screen with a minimum of buttons, those door handles that retract flush with the doors, etc – and they can never outperform whatever Tesla they are competing with. But the biggest weakness Tesla has right now from a PR standpoint is Elon Musk and his enthusiastic support of Trump and his agenda.

I think the PR angle is that folks that support DEI policies, aren’t bothered by “woke” branding and imagery, and have interest in couture fashion and a distinctive look will opt for the Jaguar instead of a Tesla or mainstream brand as a countercultural statement against the current global political shift towards conservatism. Being conservative used to be the countercultural movement against political correctness and liberal woke policies. Well, that’s not doing so well in the USofA these days. So maybe they figure that this is a good angle to get those wealthy liberal elite dollars. And why not? The kind of person that will drop 6 figures to buy/lease a cars based on the image it presents to the world may find the new Jaguar appealing. To those liberal buyers that have Cybertruck money but would never be caught dead in a Tesla now, they can bop around whatever trendy area they are in inside their new Jag with the assurance that onlookers are going to assume they are the wokest person around and “not the kind of person” that buys a Tesla.

Ford Magnet
Ford Magnet
1 month ago

I used to be anti-crossover myself but ended up with 3 CUVs/SUVs due to various reasons. Wife has a 2011 RAV4 that we share as a daily around town since we both work from home and don’t drive much. She likes sitting up high and a larger car for safety reasons, so that can’t be downsized. Admittedly it is more convenient for quick trips getting in and out and loading it up with groceries and shopping bags than a sedan or hatchback.

I bought an old 2001 Mountaineer when we moved to CO to tow a trailer for our stuff and then converted it for off-roading/overlanding/camping and to use in snow, or hauling things when needed. Its the utility truck.

Neither of these are great for highway driving at elevation and 80 MPH speed limits in the West, so I wanted something a little more luxurious and comfortable for road trips. Road trips include us, two dogs, and a lot of stuff that would pack the RAV4 pretty full, so it needed to be as big. I figured might as well get a 7 seater in case we need the extra seats. This would have been a minivan but they didn’t make luxury minivans 15 years ago and anything newer was not in our price range for a third vehicle. Ended up with a 2010 XC90 which is great combo of size, comfort, and safety and much cheaper than the competition.

I want a small manual daily for myself but with how little we drive its just not feasible at this point, and the only vehicle it could replace is the RAV4 which is a non-starter since that is shared between the two of us. Practicality wins at the end of the day. I plan on getting an ND2 Miata as a fun car once they’re old and cheap enough to justify though.

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
1 month ago

That Jaguar ad is about as serious as Yahoo Serious.

Jonee Eisen
Jonee Eisen
1 month ago

Well, now I’m a huge fan of Jaguar’s new image. Thanks anti-woke a-holes!

Ncbrit
Ncbrit
1 month ago

Like you say. Jaguar had to do something and completely erase their existing reputation. It was either this, or become a trim level on Range Rover’s.

Michael Beranek
Michael Beranek
1 month ago

It does seem like Jag is pulling a “New Coke” gimmick, which may actually work on some people.

Jonathan Hendry
Jonathan Hendry
1 month ago

Or it’ll be something like when IHOP made a big deal about “changing their name” to IHOB: International House of Burgers.

Then changed it back because it was just advertising their burger offerings.

FG
FG
1 month ago

If I watch the Jag ad a dozen times, I’ll be no closer to understanding what they’re selling me. I’d venture a guess that up to half of its viewers may have never heard of a Jaguar as anything other than a big cat and more than 90% have never ridden in or driven a Jag. (Much like yourself, I’ve had some wheel time with an F-Pace back in my Ford days. It was…fine.) As far as getting brand name recognition, the campaign has knocked it out of the park – people are talking about Jaguar again, in numbers probably unseen since they were winning Le Mans in the 80s.

But without good product to back it up, it’s just an attention grab. It’s colorful. It’s full of generic uplifting and inspirational slogans. It could play on a loop at MoMa or in a Lower East Side dive. But it’s a commercial that could just as well be selling high fashion or a new phone. When you’re talking about an item that represents one of the top-two most expensive purchases in one’s life, it’s not enough to just sell an idea.

Chronometric
Chronometric
1 month ago
Reply to  FG

If you watch a runway show from a top clothing designer with outlandish impractical outfits do you know what they are selling you?

JaGUar wants to be a fashion brand because people will pay huge money to be part of a movement, especially one that celebrities and “cool people” are associated with.

FG
FG
1 month ago
Reply to  Chronometric

If you watch a runway show from a top clothing designer with outlandish impractical outfits do you know what they are selling you?

Yes. They’re either selling to me that very insane outfit or their general design language. Shit, if Jaguar plans on selling pink, yellow and orange cars, count me in.

JaGUar wants to be a fashion brand because people will pay huge money to be part of a movement, especially one that celebrities and “cool people” are associated with.

But what will they be paying all this money for? Like, what thing are they getting in exchange for their hundreds of thousands of dollars? And what celebrities did you see in that ad?

So far it screams “Mission Winnow” to me. I’m willing to be proven wrong, however.

Last edited 1 month ago by FG
Beer-light Guidance
Beer-light Guidance
1 month ago

The title reminds me of the infamous Sex Pistols, Bill Grundy interview. “Tell me one thing, are you serious?”
https://youtu.be/LtHPhVhJ7Rs
“They’re WONDERFUL people”

TheCoryJihad
TheCoryJihad
1 month ago

In the argument of sedans over SUVs, why show what was arguably the worst sedan made in the last twenty years(second gen Malibu) in the header image? That’s an image I won’t get out of my head any time soon.

Michael Beranek
Michael Beranek
1 month ago
Reply to  TheCoryJihad

A kid where I work has one, an SS with the 240-horse 3900. Is it a good car? Well, it’s still running, and it still goes fast.

MiniDave
MiniDave
1 month ago

I think the one thing that will kill Jaguar permanently is to become yet another boutique EV maker selling cars, SUVs and the like for $150K plus……there are too many out there already – all failing, and the competition from the Chinese EV makers will finish the job.

PRNDL
PRNDL
1 month ago

When’s the last time everyone was talking about Jaguar? See…. it’s working. As Oscar Wilde said “The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about”

Michael Beranek
Michael Beranek
1 month ago
Reply to  PRNDL

I think the last time anyone talked about Jaguar was during the Austin Powers movies.

Jonathan Hendry
Jonathan Hendry
1 month ago
Reply to  PRNDL

There was that time in Februrary a Jaguar-based self-driving cab in San Francisco was destroyed by a crowd.

As the San Francisco Fire Department confirmed: “Waymo Vehicle surrounded and then graffiti’d, windows were broken, and firework lit on fire inside the vehicle which ultimately caught the entire vehicle on fire.”

Taargus Taargus
Taargus Taargus
1 month ago

Longtime Jaguar owners…

There are dozens of us! Dozens!

Pretty sure the issue Jaguar has is that for the last number of years, they HAD no more customers. Regardless of what they end up attempting here with their ad campaign, I sort of doubt that they care much about their loyal customers, who by the numbers, don’t really exist. Obviously those online accounts are more than likely, liars.

I think the beating they took last week was deserving for just how derivative the campaign appeared to be. It made me laugh. As for the term “woke”, God help me make it through Thanksgiving without hearing that word.

Musicman27
Musicman27
1 month ago

I keep hearing that word and I don’t know what it means. But from the sound of it, don’t want whatever it is in my history. So can someone PLEASE explain what the heck “woke” means?

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Carbon Fiber Sasquatch
Carbon Fiber Sasquatch
1 month ago
Reply to  Musicman27

Woke: aware of and actively attentive to important societal facts and issues (especially issues of racial and social justice)

Musicman27
Musicman27
1 month ago

So, not offensive to Karen’s, got it.

Taargus Taargus
Taargus Taargus
1 month ago
Reply to  Musicman27

Originally, the term referred to being politically conscious, especially in regard to the premise of systemic racism.

Now it’s being used as a catchall by the right for basically anything that might even be remotely progressive. And often in a totally incoherent way. In this case, Jaguar’s add campaign would be “woke”, simply for featuring people who are not white in weird clothing. It doesn’t take much.

Michael Beranek
Michael Beranek
1 month ago

“I can’t tell if it’s a girl or a boy!!! The world is disintegrating before my eyes!!!”

Taargus Taargus
Taargus Taargus
1 month ago

I might add those to my Bingo card for Thursday…

Ultradrive
Ultradrive
1 month ago

Kinda like Trump?

Taargus Taargus
Taargus Taargus
1 month ago

Ok bud

Jonathan Hendry
Jonathan Hendry
1 month ago
Reply to  Musicman27

“Acknowledges the existence of people who aren’t straight white Republicans”

EmotionalSupportBMW
EmotionalSupportBMW
1 month ago

Luckily for all the persons looking to cancel Jaguar for maybe the least offensive thing about this whole new Jaguar. The Audi White Power Package is ready to take their money.

TheCoryJihad
TheCoryJihad
1 month ago

Given the news from Germany this morning, the White Power Package is probably the least of our worries.

ADDvanced
ADDvanced
1 month ago

The Jaguar outrage is a pretty ridiculous since they haven’t even shown the car yet. Any car person I know that actually is into cars, does not really give a single F what the ad campaign was for the car they are driving. All these people are just preemptively slinging hate, over what? Some marketing nonsense? Why?

That said, I am worried about them. Jaguar has a rich heritage and history and is responsible for so many epic cars… but I don’t know where they should go today. They can’t really compete with Audi/BMW, they don’t have the bank accounts, or the volume. So they need to move to a lower volume/bespoke manufacturing, but… yeah, not sure what the plans are.

I do think that a company that ditched technology entirely (no touch screens, no backup camera, no lane assist) and focused on mechanical interaction/analogue feel of all touchpoints might be a winning combination. I can tell you that when I’m driving my old 911, civic, jag, or any of the other old piles of bolts around, I don’t miss technology at all. I do miss air conditioning….

Wuffles Cookie
Wuffles Cookie
1 month ago
Reply to  ADDvanced

Jaguar is (ironically) just copying the Hollywood playbook circa 5 years ago. Step 1- release a teaser ad that implies “woke” to bait negative commentary.

Step 2- bump up the hate numbers via bot nets and pay-per-impression PR. Note: this is not a myth, it’s an industry, virtually any contract PR firm offers this on request.

Step 3- loudly claim victim status far our of proportion of actual feedback received.

Step 4- release mediocre product to rave (paid-for reviews).

Step 5- blame mediocre results on the haters.

Step 6- collect fat bonus check, rinse, and repeat.

So my prediction is the new jags will be thoroughly ‘meh’, and they are using this PR campaign as pre-emptive damage control. We’ve seen this story before, we know how it ends.

Anders
Anders
1 month ago

I’m deeply fascinated that people, Autopian and seemingly all other media platforms are spending so time and energy discussing a new Jaguar branding platform and marketing campaign, and not a new car, platform or new technology. We like to think we are independent thinkers, but it might seem that we’re actually much more concerned about how we, and the brand we choose to associate ourselves with, is perceived rather than how good the product actually is.

Rad Barchetta
Rad Barchetta
1 month ago
Reply to  Anders

If Jaguar actually had a product to talk about, we might be able to discuss how good it is. This is all we got, though.

Anders
Anders
1 month ago
Reply to  Rad Barchetta

Yeah I know, but we’re all getting played.. these superficial and polarizing brand engagement discussions is exactly what the EY strategy consultants wanted from the beginning. It’s just a red herring.

RalphYeardley
RalphYeardley
1 month ago

As for SUVs for the price of sedans.

I’m about 10 years from retirement. When I retire, I don’t need 2 vehicles. Right now I have an ancient minivan and an ancienter Sedan. If they both last until retirement, I can absolutely see myself downgrading to a single vehicle for me and my wife to use.

We likely won’t need a minivan, but we will need something with a big cargo opening like it. And unless I hit the lottery or the stock market goes absolutely insane in the next 10 years, I won’t have the money to be comfortable with Minivan pricing.

Which leads to thinking an SUV is a good fit for our next vehicle. I still feel horrible about that, but I console myself by calling them “Hatchbacks with a lift kit” which sounds better than a Crossover or “softroader” or the like.

OverlandingSprinter
OverlandingSprinter
1 month ago
Reply to  RalphYeardley

…but I console myself by calling them “Hatchbacks with a lift kit”…

You just described the Subaru Crosstrek, which in my area is very popular indeed.

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Drive By Commenter
Drive By Commenter
1 month ago
Reply to  RalphYeardley

That’s how I see my current car. It’s a giant hatchback. Only with AWD and being classed as a compact SUV. It’s so nice being able to toss whatever into the cargo area. Large stuff just, well, fits.

RalphYeardley
RalphYeardley
1 month ago

Yeap, we had a TV go bad, I went to Best Buy and found a deal on a floor model and had the wife approve. Nothing too fancy, nothing too big. Could NOT get it in the mid-sized sedan. If the truck was an inch wider or the door opened an extra 10 degrees, maybe. Had to call the wife and have her bring the minivan.

So frustrating.

Dan1101
Dan1101
1 month ago
Reply to  RalphYeardley

I’m thinking Ford Maverick with a rigid bed cover on it.

Waremon0
Waremon0
1 month ago

Jaguar wants to control the narrative of the new product announcement as best they can and that’s to get as many eyes on the launch as possible, rather than most people seeing it on whatever social media post pops up on their feed. Since rage baiting and controversy is what works on social media, that’s likely how the product will be framed after the announcement.

By creating this fluffy pre-announcement buzz that is essentially meaningless, as we’ve compared to fragrance ads, they hope to maximize the impact of their own messaging around the new car and rebrand. Is what I think, anyway.

Anoos
Anoos
1 month ago

I feel bad for not caring about Jaguar.

Citrus
Citrus
1 month ago

I guarantee you that “state spirit” does not now, nor have they ever, owned a Jaguar.

The people who whine and moan and claim they’re going to boycott a company are never customers. They are liars. They want to marginalize others and maximize their own privilege and they always use dishonesty to further that goal. They pretend they’re long time customers. They pretend that the group they’re targeting is known for doing things they aren’t. They claim knowledge that they don’t have.

What’s woke here? The models have more than one skin tone. They want their lives to only contain people who look and live like them, and they’re going to make up as much shit as possible in order to achieve that goal.

Wuffles Cookie
Wuffles Cookie
1 month ago
Reply to  Citrus

You are correct, because “state spirit” in all likelihood does not exist. They are one of many accounts created by PR firms to generate exactly the buzz that is happening now. Hollywood has used this exact plybook for like a decade- persecution as marketing tool. Sadly, it is quite effective.

Citrus
Citrus
1 month ago
Reply to  Wuffles Cookie

While that can happen, that post suggests it’s one of the less organized sad lonely people who pop up to complain whenever someone isn’t conservative. They aren’t really PR because they just target whoever – it’s not coordinated towards specific brands.

See also: “It’s a gay bar, Pamela.”

Last edited 1 month ago by Citrus
Mercedes Streeter
Mercedes Streeter
1 month ago
Reply to  Wuffles Cookie

While a fascinating theory, it’s super easy to check a public account’s post history. That one joined Twitter back in January and has been posting braindead nonsense ever since…stuff that even a brilliant PR firm can’t come up with.

Wuffles Cookie
Wuffles Cookie
1 month ago

Oh, I know. The thing is, it’s the right level of brain dead that I used to be paid to do, and the timing is right for the marketing campaign. When I was a penniless grad student hustling for beer money, I was paid 6 bucks a month per account to create and maintain social media profiles that on quick glance look very much like that one. We had to do a minimum of 5 posts a week on various assigned topics related to current events, usually culture-war stuff, and follow certain other mostly public figure accounts. The recruiters were looking for native English speakers who were at least somewhat fluent with current events, I got the impression we were a higher level of “curated account” that was more valuable to whatever PR firm ultimately was employing us (no idea who, my checks were all signed by some random staffing company).

Apparently I was a good bullshitter because two of my accounts ended up being cited in some minor media reports as examples of backlash to various films. One of them even said my sock puppet was a 40-something mom from Ohio who disapproved of the “non-traditional” values. Sure enough, when I checked the DMs (my bosses eventually took control of the accounts after I had established it’s history, but they never bothered to change the passwords) some random reporter had hit them up requesting comment, and they replied with something along the lines of “I’m Cindy, mother of three from Ohio and I think it’s horrible that they allow things like this to be shown to our children, blah blah blah and you can quote me on that”. Except it was a complete fabrication, Cindy obviously never existed, and I’m pretty sure the reporter knew she was fake.

So whenever you see some corporate stooge whining about backlash and citing random social media accounts, you should be very, very, very skeptical. It’s almost certainly astroturfed, take it from someone who created that fine fake grass.

Last edited 1 month ago by Wuffles Cookie
Chris with bad opinions
Chris with bad opinions
1 month ago
Reply to  Citrus

Spend 10 seconds on their Twitter feed and you’ll see you’re exactly right. Person is bat shit crazy and facts are 100% irrelevant.

Pisco Sour
Pisco Sour
1 month ago

Now it seems like Cadillac will get in relatively soon, albeit via Ferrari engines.

So the team will be called “Allante”?

Chris with bad opinions
Chris with bad opinions
1 month ago

People on social media are irrational and close minded? When did this happen? I’m so confused.

Spikersaurusrex
Spikersaurusrex
1 month ago

Wow, I saw what looks like basically a perfume commercial and others saw “woke” and “DEI”. Crazy world we live in.

I hope Jag makes it because they’ve always been an aspirational brand for me, but I think they will likely fail. If they’re trying to go upscale like Rolls or Bentley, I don’t think it’ll work because, as far as I know, they’re not thought of as being in that class. I would consider them a competitor to Benz or BMW, pricey, but attainable. In the EV space, I think they’re just going to hemorrhage money for a couple years and fold. That market is too crowded and the demand for high priced examples is week – see the Mercedes EQS.

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
1 month ago

If anyone every asks what the stereotypical waif-like runway model from the 80’s-90’s that makes everyone else wonder “who looks like that?”, and was easily pointed to for reams of women turning to all sorts of serious eating disorders for ‘a look’ — they look like the new Jaguar.

There’s a reason it fell out of favour. I hope they fail.

John Patson
John Patson
1 month ago

So if a Jag is a “brand” and not a nice little motor for Arrfur, I wonder what its perfume (coming to you soon, every “brand” needs one) will smell like?
My guess is sickly boiled sweet smell, which is ever so trendy at the moment.
Any one who suggests spraying armpits with WD40, instead should be ashamed.

Justin Thiel
Justin Thiel
1 month ago
Reply to  John Patson

Recently my Jag has given off the sweet smell of burning coolant.. that could be a nice note.

TOSSABL
TOSSABL
1 month ago
Reply to  Justin Thiel

I’ve experienced that scent. Not particularly alluring

Last edited 1 month ago by TOSSABL
Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
1 month ago
Reply to  John Patson

Hot dirty gear oil sourced from a long forgotten authentic vintage stock of gear oil made from actual extract of rotten sperm whales.

RalphYeardley
RalphYeardley
1 month ago
Reply to  Cheap Bastard

Absolutely would buy. And get thrown out of the house when my wife gets a whiff. But still worth it.

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
1 month ago
Reply to  RalphYeardley

I smell a marketing opportunity!

(It’s amazing how much “marketing opportunity” smells like “rotten dead sperm whale”.)

Chronometric
Chronometric
1 month ago
Reply to  John Patson

The signature Jaguar scent is antique leather and wool, long smoked tobacco, and a hint of human musk, combined with a waft of hot motor oil and unburnt high octane petrol, often mixed with fresh country air.

A certain segment of the population, myself included, is willing to pay ridiculous sums to experience.

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