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Never Mind The Looks Feel The Width – The 1998 Fiat Multipla Was Beautiful On The Inside

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Mercifully the oft-threatened Autopian staff road trip has yet to transpire. It’s mainly because none of the moldy old RVs Miss Mercedes keeps suggesting have been remotely fit for human habitation – not for the human writing this article at any rate who has standards. Instead of trying to find an RV we can all agree on I’m going to suggest something totally different that will hopefully please everybody. A vehicle reviled by the ignorant as willfully ugly and venerated by the design literate as a work of genius. It’s so practical there’s room for Torch, David and Matt up front and Mercedes, Thomas and Lewin in the back (as gentlemen of distinction Beau and I will follow along behind in something more becoming. Like a Learjet). The 1997 Fiat Multipla. Spoon some Lavazza into your Bialetti Moka and put it on the stove, it’s time for Damn Good Design.

Fiat (Fabbrica Italiana Automobili di Torino – Italian Automobile Factory of Turin) is one of the oldest and largest European car manufacturers in the world and is almost single-handedly responsible for putting Italy on wheels. Their back catalog is stuffed to bursting with genuinely groundbreaking family cars: 500, 600, 127, Panda, Strada, Uno, Tipo – all of these and more were revolutionary in different ways, and all did it with an infectious sense of style and brio. When it comes to small cars, in Europe no company has consistently done them better. Fiat is the absolute master of the art.

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The Multipla is another tragic story of an OEM not having the courage to stay the course of their convictions, wilting in the face of criticism over the Multipla’s challenging looks despite its tremendous practicality and brilliant design. It was a complete ground-up rethinking of how to package a vehicle, making maximum use of the available space, and introducing some incredibly clever ideas reflecting the amount of research Fiat put into how families actually use their cars. Spacious on the inside and challenging on the outside, the Multipla regularly appears on clickbaity ugliest ever car listicles without any proper consideration of why its appearance is a logical extension of the ethos that drove the design of the car from the inside out.

Minivans In Europe

By the mid-eighties, the minivan revolution had reached European shores. The Matra P18 concept was developed for Chrysler UK, but when Peugeot Citroen bought the company in 1978 they considered the big one-box estate car too much of a risk and let Matra keep the prototype. Finding a grateful home at Renault, it finally appeared in 1984 as the original Espace. Sales were slow at first but middle-class European families soon caught onto the genius idea of turning the family hauler into a monovolume, liberating additional space inside for squabbling siblings as well as making it easier for harassed parents to get into the back to deal with the little blighters. American OEMs gladly shipped over domestic offerings for the mainland: the Ford Aerostar, Chrysler Voyager, and Pontiac Trans Sport all made their way across the Atlantic.

Renault Espace
The original Renault Espace. Image Renault.

Where America leads, Europe sometimes follows. As minivans grew in popularity, slowly replacing the default station wagon for hard-pressed parents, their inherent usefulness and practicality led manufacturers to make them even more helpful. Wheelbases grew creating room for a third row and more cargo space. Sliding doors began to appear, making it easier to access the rear passenger compartment without clanging a door into the car parked next to you. Seats swiveled, folded, and became removable, instantly transforming the minivan into a real van. All of this bloat meant higher prices, but more significantly an increase in size. By the mid-nineties, the third generation Espace was getting on for 180” (4.5 meters) long, and the NS Dodge Caravan (marketed as a Chrysler in Europe) was over 185” (4.7 meters). A victim of its own success, the family hauler was becoming too big and expensive for crowded European roads. Something smaller and cheaper was required.

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A Small Revolution

Ever the innovator, Giugiaro had been playing around with the idea of raising rooflines and seating passengers in a more upright position to increase interior room for a given vehicle footprint since the late seventies. In 1978 he showed the Lancia Megagamma concept at the Turin show. Like Peugeot Citroen before them, Lancia considered the idea too risky for the market, but it did Nissan to have a try with the Prairie, which arrived in 1982. The Prairie (Stanza Wagon in the US) was an oddly proportioned small MPV, but being a two-box volume it had an unfortunate London Metrocab appearance. Despite the novelty and usefulness of its twin sliding rear doors, it never made much of an impression on the market. In the United States, AMC had shown the AM Van as part of its Concept 80 traveling motor show in 1977, but this was little more than a styling exercise to excite the public as opposed to a serious proposal for a new category of vehicle.

1991 Renault S.C.E.N.I.C concept
1991 Renault S.C.E.N.I.C concept. Image Renault.

MPV pioneers Renault revealed the torturously named Safety Concept Embodied in a New Innovating Car (S.C.E.N.I.C.) Concept in 1991. Another one-box shape with four sliding doors, five separate seats, and a chaotic earth tones interior presumably inspired by David Carson’s living room, a production version designed by the legendary Partick Le Quement appeared in 1996. Based on the standard Megane C segment (US sub-compact)  hatch, unlike the boxy Prairie the Megane Scenic was a sloping fronted monovolume that packaged five fully individual seats, the rears being foldable and removable. With a 164” (4.2 meter) overall length, the Renault was right sized, right priced, and became an overnight smash hit all over Europe.

Megane Scenic
Renault Megane Scenic. Image Renault UK.

Very rarely does an OEM create a new segment and keep it to themselves for very long. Although it usually takes about four to five years to go from sketch to showroom (infamously the Alfa Romeo Giulia was done a lot quicker), once something revolutionary hits the streets rivals are not more than a year or two behind. OEMs have whole departments dedicated to figuring out exactly what their competitors are up to, and if there’s a gap in the market that’s obvious to one, it’s obvious to all of them. When it came to the burgeoning small MPV market, Renault were muscling in on Fiat’s family car turf, and they were not about to take that lying down.

Post-war Italy underwent a huge economic expansion. As more and more Italian families benefitted from increased prosperity Fiat put them in a series of brilliant small cars starting with the rear-engined 600 in 1955.

Multipla
In 1956 Dante Giacosa gave the 600 a new flat fronted one box body, moved the front seats over the front axle and created the original Multipla, the world’s first MPV. You’d need to be good friends with your traveling companions or a very close family but in an object lesson of squeezing the maximum from every cubic inch of interior space, the Multipla could carry up to six people and some luggage within a total vehicle length of 139” (3.5 meters). For its modern namesake, Fiat wanted to do something even more impressive to put Renault back in their box.

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A Small Revolution

The initial idea for nuova Multipla was not for a production car at all, but a concept. Managing director of Fiat Paolo Cantarella issued a disarmingly simple research brief: “How to comfortably accommodate six people and their luggage in a car no more than four meters (157”) long?” According to Auto & Design magazine:

Roberto Giolito was appointed project manager, while Peter Jansen took care of the interior design. Mauro Basso handled the initial phase of the exterior. “As the research progressed,” says Nevio Di Giusto, head of Style/Design, Innovation and Ergonomics for the Fiat brands, “the concept seemed more and more interesting to us, so much so that we were led to hypothesize the birth of a production product.

Multipla Design Sketches
Multipla design sketches. Screenshots Niels van Roij Design via Youtube

Initially, three rows of two seats were considered for the interior layout, but this would have been impossible to package within the 4-meter length constraint, limiting the cargo area and compromising the crush zones at the front. According to engineer Guiseppe Piritore:

“The result was invariably a narrow, tall vehicle with a compact nose, disadvantageous in terms of engine positioning and impact absorption areas, while the boot was extremely sacrificed with the 6 seats in use and very irregularly shaped”

Packaging is working out where all the constituent parts of your car are going to fit. It’s like rearranging that one drawer in your house that’s full of crap so you can squeeze more crap in. On a fundamental level, you have the basic building blocks of your car: the powertrain, suspension systems, passenger compartment, and cargo area. Once you’ve decided on the best arrangement for your vehicle type, you think about ergonomics: H-point (the height of the driver’s hip joint above the ground plane) and making sure passengers can reach the controls and they don’t get their bell rung by bashing their heads on any of the body structure in an accident. Imagine squeezing a balloon full of water; it expands where you’re not applying pressure. Same principle with vehicle packaging – to move one thing, something else has to make room for it.

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Fiat Multipla with passengers and luggage
I think the one in the middle of the front row is Torch. Screenshot Niels van Roij Design via Youtube.

Still So Strange

Fiat realized the only way to fit six people was to make the car wider and seat them in two rows of three seats. Everything about the exterior design followed that revelation. Revealed at the Turin Motor Show in 1998, the production Multipla had an enlarged passenger cabin with extensive glazing that was inspired by the bulging canopy of an Augusta A109 helicopter. The low beltline gave a feeling of airiness to a crowded interior and gave occupants a panoramic view of the outside world. To keep the windscreen a sensible size the exterior shape of the Multipla ended up not as a monovolume or two-box, but something in between – a sort of one-and-a-half box; a short but tall and wide passenger cabin with a vestigial engine compartment tacked on the front. Just how stubby did the Multipla end up being? At 157” (4 meters) long and 74” (1.9 meters) wide it’s a staggering 7” (150 mm) shorter and the same amount wider than the Renault Scenic. According to Hagerty it was the widest car on the market apart from the Rolls Royce Seraph. And the Fiat had more legroom.

Mutlipla design sketch
Multipla sketch, Screenshot Niels van Roij Design via Youtube.

On the inside the instruments and gear shift were mounted on a central pod to liberate space on top of the dash for lidded storage compartments and to prevent any inadvertent touching of the middle passenger, which doesn’t seem very Italian. Because this was the nineties, the interior was a playpen of color and fun ideas. The HVAC vents were specifically designed to resemble a robot face to amuse smaller passengers in the rear. There’s a handy slot for keeping your credit card close for the inevitable breakdown callouts. The seats all slide, the middle ones fold to make a table, and the back row can be yanked out to provide more space for cargo. With 15 cu ft (430 liters) of room in trunk, you’d rarely need to.

Multipla dashboard
Multipla dashboard and IP. Image Fiat via Netcarshow.
Multipla Interior
Multipla Interior. Screenshot Niels van Roij Design via Youtube
Multipla Interior
Multipla Interior. Screenshot Niels van Roij Design via Youtube.

Form Shouldn’t Always Follow Function

A constant criticism of car design I hear a lot is the ‘form should follow function’ bullshit. Be careful what you wish for, because the Multipla is what you could end up with. For all the logical thinking that dictated its design, why doesn’t the exterior of the Multipla work? The proportions are challenging for sure – it’s high and short, but you can design around this to a certain degree – careful consideration of the graphical elements, the lighting, and the daylight opening (DLO) can help disguise an odd shape.

Multipla Exterior
Image Fiat via Netcarshow.

The main problems with the Multipla are the haphazard door shutlines, the gawky pillars –  particularly the D pillar at the back, the blobtacular surfacing, and the stance. It looks like a fat person with a too-tight waistband. The rigid beltline creates a big dissonance with the bulbous top and bottom halves of the car. Giolito’s commitment to making the interior as airy as possible means the slim D pillar works when viewed from the rear three-quarter view but looks awful when looked at from any other angle. Because the third side window curves in a vertical plane at the top and a horizontal plane at the bottom, it’s forced into a horribly tortured shape. The rear windshield is wider at the top than at the bottom, completely the opposite of how it should be. Because it used running gear from the Brava hatch, the wheels sit too far inside the Multipla’s significantly wider fender, adding to the obesity.

Multipla Exterior
Image Fiat via Netcarshow.

Conversely when you look at the Multipla from the front three-quarter view, because you can’t see the D pillar, it appears a lot better. Because of the instrument panel, it would not have been possible to make the base of the windshield meet the hood, so Fiat used this vertical surface to provide a home for the main beam unit of the headlights – the thinking being they would be more effective mounted higher up. Again, superbly logical from a pure design point of view, but slightly more challenging from an aesthetic one.

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Let’s Do It After Lunch

So yeah, it’s not exactly a looker. But it is joyfully, delightfully weird, endearing in a derpy, runt-of-the-litter sort of way. I remember design critic Stephen Bayley writing at the time the Mutlipla was released that one of the exterior designers explained the rear lights were like breakfast on a plate, each element representing eggs, bacon, and so on. You can imagine the Multipla design team coming up with the car after a particularly good and well-lubricated lunch. They had a strict design brief and saw it through to its logical conclusion, willfully defying convention with a huge twinkle in their eyes. In the UK cars came with a sticker on the rear windshield that said “wait until you see the front”, dealers being well and truly in on the joke.

Sadly for the Multipla a year later the market was flooded with staid, sensible competitors, most notably the Vauxhall (Opel) Zafira, a car with as much fun and personality as a German railway toilet. But the Zafira brought yet another revolution to the segment – a small fold-away third row of seats in the trunk (for a total of seven) that sent rivals scrambling to catch up. To bolster weak sales and shut critics up, Fiat gave the Multipla a much more conventional front in 2004. Reporting from that year’s Geneva show the Daily Telegraph wrote:

“Fiat, contrary to all the grim rumors, was never likely to be at death’s door, but it was seriously unwell. It has fought back from those hard times, first by radically reorganizing its lumbering structure, and now by hinting at a more promising product range from Fiat Auto.

One example of this is the literally facelifted. All the car designers in the world may be desperately sad that the new Multipla no longer resembles a psychotic cartoon duck, but Fiat noted that, while passengers loved the adaptability of the clever interior, they were less keen on the sarcastic sneers and derisive laughter of their neighbors, friends and schoolmates; children can be cruel.

The new Multipla may look relatively boring and is unlikely to challenge the iron grip of the Espace on leadership of this sector, but it will almost certainly move the model from school-run laughing stock to serious player in one stroke.”

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Facelifted Multipla
Facelifted Multipla. Image Fiat via Netcarshow.

The Multipla’s individuality was neutered, and sales cratered even further. When you have a distinctive and unusual car, you have to stick with it to give the market time to come around to your thinking. Chicken out and you and you take away the reason anybody buys your car in the first place. Customers can and will accept something that looks a bit different if the product is compelling enough. Overall sales figures seem lost to the mists of time but according to the website Good Car Bad Car, 400,000 units were sold by the end of production in 2010.

I recently added a LESA Funny radio to my collection. It’s spherical in shape, bright turquoise in color and has a wrist strap even though it weighs the equivalent of a bowling ball. It’s an impractical and unusual form for a radio, but I love the bright color, sense of fun and simplicity of it. Car design can never purely be an exercise of function, logic, and rationality. A car needs to appeal on a visual level because that’s what attracts you on an emotional level. Viewed as one of the last gasps of Italian Modernism, with a bit of finessing to the glazing, pillars, and shutlines the Mutlipla would have worked a lot better. It still would have been a bonkers oddball, but it would have been a slightly more cohesive and successful one.

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Rust Buckets
Rust Buckets
6 months ago

As an American, it’s interesting that they made such a big deal of the width of the Multipla. It’s 74″ wide, which is probably average width for a car in the US. I would also consider that to be basically the minimum width for any car that will comfortably seat three across. Do they really stand out as being that conspicuously wide in Europe?

First generation Chrysler minivans (mid 80s) were 72″ wide.
Second generation Honda Odysseys (early aughts) were 76″ wide.
Current Honda Odysseys are 79″ wide.
All fullsize pickups and SUVs are 80″ wide, although the new Hummer EV and Grand Wagoneer are over width at 87″ and 84″ respectively.

I had to look it up: European lorries are the same width as American trucks, about eight and a half feet or 102″. So in Europe, you guys are comparing to commercial trucks just the same.

Captain Muppet
Captain Muppet
6 months ago
Reply to  Rust Buckets

We have lots of roads here that are signposted as not suitable for trucks, which you can cheerfully ignore in a narrow car.

Plus nearly all of the towns predate the car and have some roads designed so two horses can pass each other, and many others that are only just wide enough for two narrow cars to pass.

My other half avoided using my BMW Z4 because it was too wide, and it’s a couple of inches narrower than the Multipla.

Rust Buckets
Rust Buckets
6 months ago
Reply to  Captain Muppet

A BMW Z4 being too wide for anything is hilarious.

Captain Muppet
Captain Muppet
6 months ago
Reply to  Rust Buckets

We have roads here where a Z4 meeting another Z4 means someone has to reverse back to a wider bit of road.

We have roads here where a bicycle coming the other way means you both have to stop and hope the cyclist doesn’t mind climbing in to a hedge so you can pass.

The main roads are fine, but if you’re going somewhere rural road width gets random.

Every time I’m in the US the thing that hits me most is how wide all the roads are.

Phuzz
Phuzz
6 months ago
Reply to  Captain Muppet

Don’t forget that the roads that are just wide enough for two cars, will often have cars parked on both sides reducing the actual road to a single lane.

Alan Christensen
Alan Christensen
6 months ago

Here in the US “narrow European roads” is essentially a single word. So making a European car wider boggles the mind.

Guido Sarducci
Guido Sarducci
6 months ago

“Not normal”; “ugliest car I’ve ever seen”, “homely but albeit very useful”.
I personally thank FIAT for producing this car, as it was something no one would want to steal. 24 years ago, I spent many months on and off in Israel on business. The first time I flew into Ben Gurion airport and rented a car for the 5 weeks I was scheduled to be there, I was given a white Toyota Corolla. Drove from Tel Aviv to Be’er Sheva, where I was staying at the Hilton. No issue with the car on the drive other than when I went to retrieve it from the Hilton parking lot the first morning, it was gone. Reported to the local constabulary, who kind of shrugged their shoulders and stated the car was likely in parts at that point and would not be found, stating the local Bedouin likely had taken it from the Hilton lot. I was given another car for the duration of my trip, which was a white Toyota Corolla. Not again? I was friendly with the front end manager at the Be’er Sheva Hilton, who suggested I should park the car in a secure area directly adjacent to the hotel. It was 3 spaces which were cordoned off with locked chains. Locked chains do not discourage Bedouin car thieves. The car was gone the following morning. Reported to the police again, but it happens I was leaving Israel that day for about a month, or I might have been tempted to steal a camel in retribution… Upon my return to Ben Gurion a month later, I went to the rental agency to pick up a car. Giving my name and credentials to the agent, she stated “you are the gentleman who had 2 cars stolen recently”. Yes I was indeed that person, and I would like a car that no one would want to steal. She directed me to a parking spot in which sat a green FIAT Multipla. Thank you! No theft during the 6 weeks I was there. It was actually a decente vehicle. Comfortable, spacious, easy to drive. Not sporty in performance or handling, but most importantly, not worthy of being stolen.

Urban Runabout
Urban Runabout
6 months ago

The wonderful thing about the Multipla is that it’s not normal.
What a shame FIAT felt the need to attempt to normalize it.

The Dude
The Dude
6 months ago

That’s probably the ugliest car I’ve ever seen. So ugly that I’d love to own one.

Greensoul
Greensoul
6 months ago

BTW the updated version was uglier than sin too. The ugly proportions remind me of the unfortunate looking Kia Rondo. Even it’s name was unfortunate. I have a friend who got over 250k on hers and cried when it finally died despite how ugly it was! She loved that goofy thing and never maintained it. It was the ultimate road cock roach

Mechjaz
Mechjaz
6 months ago
Reply to  Greensoul

I always thought “Rondo” sounded like one of the cheeseball names they’d make up in Mystery Science Theater 3000. Not remotely culturally known enough to avoid the name, not at all. Just what it always made me think of.

Bob Boxbody
Bob Boxbody
6 months ago
Reply to  Mechjaz

Are you perhaps thinking of Rondo Hatten, star of The Brute Man, which was riffed by MST3K?

Greensoul
Greensoul
6 months ago
Reply to  Mechjaz

I adored Mystery Science Theater 3000 BTW. Love the reference

Iain Tunmore
Iain Tunmore
6 months ago
Reply to  Mechjaz

Could be worse, here in the UK the Rondo was called Carens.

Jack Trade
Jack Trade
6 months ago

Curious about views of the Nissan Cube – it was probably as weird as we could take it in the States (cue some Jeremy Clarkson rant here), but I’ve always kinda liked it for its willingness to go there/be strange, esp given Nissan is a fairly everyday car brand generally marketing to all of us (i.e. it’s not Scion).

The Dude
The Dude
6 months ago
Reply to  Jack Trade

SYMMETRY IS A GOOD THING!

But I love that Nissan took some risks.

Greensoul
Greensoul
6 months ago
Reply to  The Dude

Agreed. The 1st gen without the Mr Magoo shaped windows was so much better looking. Wish we would have gotten that version of the Cube.

Rust Buckets
Rust Buckets
6 months ago
Reply to  The Dude

Symmetry is the single design trait used on the most cars ever. Nothing is more played out than symmetrical cars. We need more (tasteful) asymmetry.

Bob Boxbody
Bob Boxbody
6 months ago
Reply to  Jack Trade

I once said the Cube would go down as the ugliest car in my lifetime (holy cow has that ever not ended up being true), but really it’s just the asymmetry that bugs me about the Nissan. It has a weird charm about it. This Fiat is much worse overall, apparent design genius notwithstanding.

Greensoul
Greensoul
6 months ago
Reply to  Jack Trade

A bad CVT killed this future radio star. God rest the Cube. It was a cool little box. The 5 speed versions can still be found!

Last edited 6 months ago by Greensoul
IanGTCS
IanGTCS
6 months ago
Reply to  Adrian Clarke

So what are your thoughts on similar vehicles? The Soul, Scion xB, and Honda Element. Is it the weird touches that Nissan gave the cube that make you love it or is the somewhat quirky box design in general something that you enjoy.

Slow Joe Crow
Slow Joe Crow
6 months ago

When it came out I thought the Multpla was a great idea with the three across seating and I actually liked the weird looks.
Unfortunately I live in the US so I’m unlikely to ever own one. A six seater seems the ideal size for a nuclear family, holding 4 in comfort and a carpool or grandparents in slightly less comfort. That’s why we had a Mazda5, 4 comfortable seats and a lot of stuff or six seats and slightly less stuff, I just wish we could have bought it sooner and it hadn’t been totaled.

Dogisbadob
Dogisbadob
6 months ago
Reply to  Adrian Clarke

Nope, we didn’t get the FRV or Toyota’s Yaris Verseo

Slow Joe Crow
Slow Joe Crow
6 months ago
Reply to  Adrian Clarke

Nope, the only small MPVs were the Mazda5, Kia Rondo and Ford C-Max. Otherwise it’s all CUV or full size minivans like the Dodge Caravan or Toyota Sienna

Rust Buckets
Rust Buckets
6 months ago
Reply to  Slow Joe Crow

Outstanding news! The US market has tons of three across vehicles, you don’t need to lust after a hideous Italian one. I own like four vehicles that seat three across. The Crown Vic is my favorite for hauling six people.

Slow Joe Crow
Slow Joe Crow
6 months ago
Reply to  Rust Buckets

Let me rephrase that as 3 across comfortably. Nether of my nominally six seat vehicles has a comfortable middle seat. (2002 Ford F150 Super Cab and 2003 Buick LeSabre)

Greensoul
Greensoul
6 months ago

The French version of the AMC Pacer! How ironic the French would own a big part of AMC in the 80’s. Renault Alliance anyone? We have to love them for funding the unibody Jeep Cherokees. I’m sure David Tracy would approve.

FleetwoodBro
FleetwoodBro
6 months ago

I rode in a Multipla taxi about ten years ago, five people plus luggage, so six humans including the driver. The little one sat in the middle front and I was somewhat jealous. We had plenty of room and the vehicle is so open and airy, it was like driving an atrium. It’s a shame they didn’t make it over here. I would’ve bought one.

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
6 months ago

I like this because I like odd, but I think to truly appreciate it you have to suffer from Multipla Personality Disorder.

Andy Individual
Andy Individual
6 months ago

The form of the original Multipla does owe quite a bit to the Dymaxion.

My main beef with the later one is I just have a (perhaps unfair) hatred of centrally mounted gauges.

Your comment about lunch reminded me of a work trip I took to Olivetti back in the day. The office schedule was basically:

  • Show up
  • Have coffee and tell rude stories about the wife/girlfriend from the night before
  • Do about one hour of work, with another coffee break in there somewhere
  • Go to a 2+ hour lunch
  • Come back have a nap
  • Have more coffee and discuss the football match
  • Do about another hour of work
  • Knock off for the day.

If I recall, they were considered one of the more productive industrial companies in Turin at the time. LOL

Andy Individual
Andy Individual
6 months ago
Reply to  Adrian Clarke

Yeah. I was there on an IT technology project, but having been trained as an industrial designer it was a bit of a pilgrimage. In the end, I think all I can remember is that they had nice espresso cups.

Gilbert Wham
Gilbert Wham
6 months ago
Reply to  Adrian Clarke

My gran used to refer to Orvieto as ‘a nice bottle of Olivetti’.

Cameron Showers
Cameron Showers
6 months ago

I loved when i got to see one at lanes motor museum! Such a homely but albeit very useful vehicle! I really oddly fell in love with the renault avantime!

Greensoul
Greensoul
6 months ago
Reply to  Adrian Clarke

Did I hear Renault Avantime? One of my odd secret loves in transportation also!. A pillar-less hardtop with a Jay Lo butt, funky door hinges, based off of a minivan, and, and, available with a stick shift? Rumor has it a diesel was available, too. Sign me up! Adrian, why are Brits always in a snarky mood? I love British comedy BTW

StillNotATony
StillNotATony
6 months ago

Just so you know, Adrian, truly discerning gentlemen, such as yourself and Beau, would not fly on something as dated as a Learjet.

While they once were the standard for speed and comfort, they have long since been surpassed, especially for someone of your grand… elevation? Height?

Might I suggest a nice Gulfstream G700? Perhaps a Global 7500? Or if you’re not going intercontinental as much and appreciate good design, you might enjoy the HondaJet!

Greensoul
Greensoul
6 months ago
Reply to  Adrian Clarke

Mess with Adrian’s hazel nut coffee creamer on a flight and you will die. Don’t ever fly with him on a Boeing and mess with his coffee creamer. It’s a Boeing, doors fly off all of the time, and you sat to close to the door. Shit happens. You got sucked out into the sky, may God rest your soul. Adrian had nothing to do with it

VanGuy
VanGuy
6 months ago

Knowing Adrian has Opinions™, I was not expecting him to step up to defend the Multipla (a car which I can also appreciate).

Good writing!

Mechjaz
Mechjaz
6 months ago
Reply to  VanGuy

I secretly suspect this is just part of an image rehabilitation tour:
“Find something nice to say -”
“I love gin.”
“- about the Fiat Multipla.”
“…I’m going to need more gin.”

Andrea Petersen
Andrea Petersen
6 months ago

I absolutely adore these and for a while was strongly considering importing one right when they turned 25. Unfortunately, it seems a lot of early Multiplas have been a bit abused. The idea also went further sideways when another delightful Fiat came up as available and soon to turn 25. I’d still have one in a heartbeat!

Iain Tunmore
Iain Tunmore
6 months ago
Reply to  Adrian Clarke

I’ve been after a (prefacelift) Multipla for about six months. It would be the ideal dog car/weekend activity car/tip run car for me, my two daughters and our Newfoundland, to sit alongside my beloved i3.
I had failed to realise quite how rare they have become. In six months I’ve found just three for sale in the UK, and demand drives prices far higher than I’d like for a 20-25 year old FIAT.
Facelifted ones are ten a penny and available for £1k, but the styling of those is too awful to even contemplate.
If I don’t find one soon, I might have to resort to a three across the front Berlingo, which is equally practical but lacks ANY sense of style.

Iain Tunmore
Iain Tunmore
6 months ago
Reply to  Adrian Clarke

Intriguing! I can’t think of many cars less Goth than a Multipla, but if you somehow end up with one for sale I am very interested!

Vetatur Fumare
Vetatur Fumare
6 months ago

Tell us more, what are you bringing? Coupé, Barchetta, or something unexpected?

Andrea Petersen
Andrea Petersen
6 months ago
Reply to  Vetatur Fumare

Fiat, Not Otherwise Specified…

Vetatur Fumare
Vetatur Fumare
6 months ago

Not Fair!!! I am going to imagine it’s a Seicento Sporting or a Bravo HGT.

Andrea Petersen
Andrea Petersen
6 months ago
Reply to  Vetatur Fumare

Oh, still weirder than that…

Vetatur Fumare
Vetatur Fumare
6 months ago

Weirder yet… Fiat Strada? Or maybe a Doblò; you’re clearly a person willing to suffer fingerpointing and stares.

Andrea Petersen
Andrea Petersen
6 months ago
Reply to  Vetatur Fumare

I’m a goth, I can get fingerpoints and stares just walking around doing my weekly shopping. But no, still weirder. As a ballpark, I’m bringing it over from England where there’s roughly a couple dozen believed to still exist.

Vetatur Fumare
Vetatur Fumare
6 months ago

I mean, a facelift Fiat Marea sedan with a petrol engine is that rare but I don’t see anyone bringing one of those. Whatever it is, I hope the Autopian will let you post photos once it arrives because I am indeed aquiver with anticipation.

P Hans
P Hans
6 months ago

They should have just raised the metal surfaces all the way around so that the hood can meet the windshield normally and then rise the height of the front fascia, and the belt line to match the hood. That way you get a much more capable looking machine. Yes the front will not be passenger car dimensions, but then this vehicle doesnt have passenger car dimensions. Yes, there will be less glass too, but hey its the mid-90s! Be a design trailblazer and narrow those windows!

Dogisbadob
Dogisbadob
6 months ago

Yeah the Multipla looks awesome! People hate on it for no reason

Last edited 6 months ago by Dogisbadob
D-dub
D-dub
6 months ago
Reply to  Dogisbadob

The nail that sticks out gets hammered down.

RataTejas
RataTejas
6 months ago

Had the pleasure of riding in a Multipla in Italy for a trip from Civitavecchia to Rome. The inside was brilliant. Amazing volume for such a small vehicle.

Hoonicus
Hoonicus
6 months ago

AM Van! So much more headbanging room for Wayne and Garth!

Fourmotioneer
Fourmotioneer
6 months ago

This and your Jeep Cherokee piece were vindicating!

Where I’ll lose you is the original B9 Tribeca > the refresh.

Also, Peter Davis was leading Centro Stile Fiat for this and he’s a cool dude. Used to run work with Cressoni, Alfa 75 designer

Double Wide Harvey Park
Double Wide Harvey Park
6 months ago

400k sales is pretty good for Yurp.

Double Wide Harvey Park
Double Wide Harvey Park
6 months ago
Reply to  Adrian Clarke

But it doesn’t look like an Aztek that was spawned in a nuclear reactor cooling tank.

Alexander Moore
Alexander Moore
6 months ago
Reply to  Adrian Clarke

500 is a weird comparison to make. Should have mentioned the Zafira A, a Multipla competitor, that sold nearly a million in just five years on the market.

Iain Tunmore
Iain Tunmore
6 months ago
Reply to  Adrian Clarke

The Zafira sold 1.9m across the same 12 years (across 2 generations). It had sold more than 400k in its first 2.5 years on sale.

Proof that popularity is not any indication of style.

Citrus
Citrus
6 months ago

I once argued that the Multipla is the most Vulcan car: It’s incredibly logical even if it does not make sense to irrational people.

I actually dig how it looks, if only because I like weird things.

Alpine 911
Alpine 911
6 months ago

You have such a great way of writing and I am always learning something new. Love the granularity and the precision in the description of the design process and the trade offs from a corporate perspective. Fun fact: the flex seating system in the Zafira was developed by Porsche Engineering and one could buy at some point the OPC model with 192 and then 240 horsepower

Captain Muppet
Captain Muppet
6 months ago
Reply to  Adrian Clarke

They were exclusively sold to people who were furious about how many kids they had ended up with, so they bought the fastest thing they could find with the right number of seats.

I never saw one not being driven on the cusp of road rage.

Iain Tunmore
Iain Tunmore
6 months ago
Reply to  Adrian Clarke

We owned a 2nd gen Zafira with the 200bhp version of the VXR engine. It torque-steered appallingly, and drank fuel at such a rate its fuel tank range was worse than almost all EVs on sale today.
I can’t imagine an extra 20% power in the VXR helped at all with either of those.

Óscar Morales Vivó
Óscar Morales Vivó
6 months ago

With the differences in packaging for EVs I would hope that someone would revisit the ideas that the Multipla got right.

Óscar Morales Vivó
Óscar Morales Vivó
6 months ago
Reply to  Adrian Clarke

I wouldn’t expect an EV Multipla to have a frunk, but since there’s no real need for a center console anymore in EVs someone should look at bringing three seats in the front back.

Last edited 6 months ago by Óscar Morales Vivó
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