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Not Quite Clean As A Whistle, Baby: 1993 Geo Storm vs 1993 Ford Probe GT

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Welcome back! We’ve got another two cars from a certain year with an album released the same year, and before we get into it, I need to give you a quick warning: Neither the lyrics nor the cover art of today’s album is particularly work-friendly, so grab your headphones and make sure the boss isn’t looking over your shoulder. Today we pay a visit to 1993 and listen to Liz Phair’s debut album Exile In Guyville, while we check out two quintessentially ’90s sport coupes.

Yesterday’s German car battle, set to the tune of the White Stripes, didn’t quite go the way I was Expecting. I thought for sure there was no way a coupe could win against a wagon when the coupe has so Little Room inside. I figured the complicated nature of the Mercedes would Offend In Every Way. But once in a while, even when I think I have things figured out, I get it wrong. Which is a good thing – I Can Learn, after all.

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Song-drops aside, I agree with the slim majority here. Either of these is going to be a handful, so you might as well make it a handful with a V8 and massive side windows. A lot of you disliked the beige color, but honestly, I don’t mind it on this car. Big Benzes of this era seem to default to silver; this is at least a little different.

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In the early 1990s, I was attending UW-Superior in Superior, Wisconsin, and I had a number of friends who worked at KUWS, the college radio station. The bulk of KUWS’s musical programming was jazz and classical, but on weeknights for a couple of hours, it switched to modern alternative rock, with a program called “The Dean’s List.” (Apparently, it still does.) My friends were DJs for The Dean’s List, and through them, I got introduced to some incredible music, including but by no means limited to Trip Shakespeare, Concrete Blonde, the Pixies, Jellyfish, the Jayhawks, Urge Overkill (whose frontman Nash Kato took the photo that became Exile In Guyville‘s cover art), and today’s featured artist, Liz Phair.

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Last year, my wife and I saw Liz Phair in concert, performing Exile In Guyville in its entirety, and what struck me was how much fun she was having. Listening to Guyville, or its follow-up Whip-Smart, you get the impression that Phair is kind of a brooder, aloof, and not very energetic. On stage, nothing could be further from the truth. She was smiling, animated, getting involved with the crowd, and telling stories. It was a wonderful show, and it gave me a new appreciation for Guyville, a record I’ve been listening to for thirty years now. The moral of the story: If you love them on the record, go see them live. It really is worth it.

All right; enough about that. Let’s check out some cool ’90s cars.

1993 Geo Storm – $3,300

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Engine/drivetrain: 1.6-liter overhead cam inline 4, five-speed manual, FWD

Location: Bothell, WA

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Odometer reading: 125,000 miles

Operational status: Runs and drives well

Did you ever have a car you always admired, but for one reason or another never ended up buying? For me, one of those cars is the Geo Storm, a captive import version of Isuzu’s second-generation Piazza/Impulse. I was all set to buy one once, a blue GSi model, but the salesman pissed me off over something, and I walked away. I remember seeing one on the lot in this bright magenta color as well, but twenty-something me wouldn’t have been caught dead in a pink car. Twenty-something me was kind of an idiot. This is a great color.

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This Storm isn’t a GSi, so it makes do with only a single-cam 95 horsepower version of Isuzu’s 1.6 liter four. It is a manual, though, so you can wind it out and make full use of the power that’s there. And this is a lightweight car – only about 2,200 pounds – so it doesn’t need a lot of power to have some fun. This one hasn’t been driven regularly since 2016, but it has been given occasional exercise to keep the juices flowing, and the seller says it runs and drives well.

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Like the rest of Geo’s lineup, the Storm was built to a price, so don’t expect a lot of luxury features. The interior is working-class fabric and plastic, and from what I remember, there isn’t a whole lot of sound deadening either. This one has held up well, it looks like, with only the typical wear spot in the seat bolster seen in a lot of used cars of a certain age.

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Outside, it’s, well, freakin’ magenta, is what it is. Not a color commonly seen on cars of any age. The paint is original, and it is shiny, but there’s one unfortunate dent on the driver’s side just below the fuel filler. It’s hardly a deal-breaker, though, as thin on the ground as Storms are these days. If you want a small, reliable, economical, excellent-handling sporty coupe for a little over three grand, you can put up with a dent.

1993 Ford Probe GT – $6,500

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Engine/drivetrain: 2.5-liter dual overhead cam V6, five-speed manual, FWD

Location: Fort Worth, TX

Odometer reading: 100,000 miles

Operational status: Runs and drives well

By now, we all know the story: The Ford Probe was supposed to be the new Mustang in 1989, but when Ford fans got wind of it, they complained, and the Japanese-designed, front-wheel-drive Probe was introduced as a separate model, and the Mustang continued on unchanged. But what’s interesting is that the Probe did well enough to warrant a second generation, introduced in 1993. The first-generation Probe was a really good car – I had one – but the second was a legitimate performance car, at least in GT trim like this one.

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The heart of the second-generation Probe GT is Mazda’s 2.5-liter KL-DE V6, a big step up in power and refinement from the Taurus-sourced Vulcan V6 available at the end of the first-gen’s run. Combined with a slick-shifting Mazda five-speed gearbox, four-wheel disc brakes, and fat sticky tires, that revvy V6 made the GT punch way above its weight. This is a fun car to drive. The seller says this one runs and drives well, and has a new clutch. The only issues noted are a small oil leak, and a weird noise when the air conditioner is set to “Max.”

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The second-generation Probe and its sister model the Mazda MX-6 were a bit further removed from their 626 sedan roots than the first generations were, and this shows in the driving position. This car sits low, and you sort of fall into it, like a lot of other sporty coupes. The earlier Probes sat much more upright. The interior of this one looks pretty good, though the seller says it needs some minor work. It’s a hell of a lot nicer inside than a Probe GT that I test-drove a few years ago, which had wires hanging from under the dash and a Crown Royal bag for a shift lever boot.

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Outside, its biggest flaw seems to be bleached paint and clearcoat, not surprising in the Texas sun. But it appears to be stock except for the window tint, and undamaged, so there’s that. If I remember right, the chromed wheels were a factory option. I prefer the standard matte silver versions myself, but beggars can’t be choosers.

I just noticed something these two cars have in common – unusual door handle designs that both use a small recess behind the door edge to access. The Probe has a little edge flap that pulls out, and the Storm has a tiny lever hidden behind the edge of the door. I guess in Jason’s door-handle taxonomy, that makes the Storm a Class 5, and the Probe a Class 5/10 hybrid. It’s also worth noting that, while the Probe has full pop-up lights, and the Storm’s headlights are fixed, earlier Storms had pop-up “eyelids” that covered the upper third of the lights when they were off. This design was phased out during the 1992 mid-cycle refresh of the Storm, because frankly, it was silly.

Anyway, take a look at these two long-extinct sporty coupes, and see which one you think is a better deal. And give Exile In Guyville a listen, especially if you’ve never heard it before. It holds up.

(Image credits: Craigslist sellers)

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Isis
Isis
9 days ago

I like both of these cars, but I had a gf back in the day that had the 5spd Mazda MX6 and it was a freaking hoot to drive. Probe all day long because of that. Seriously fast touring coupe.

CPL Rabbit
CPL Rabbit
9 days ago

I’d rather have the Probe; but not at that price. The Storm also feels overpriced. Having been shopping for ‘cheap’ vehicles recently, though, $3k is about the bottom of the market for straight and running now. Storm it is.

Xpumpx
Xpumpx
9 days ago

I had a 92 storm base model back in 98 and I get all sappy for them now. I voted for it, but that probe is a damn sharp car.

AlterId
AlterId
10 days ago

The Ford, I guess, although I’ll defer to general commentariat opinion that it’s overpriced. The ad claims it’s the second owner and if it belongs to the same house as the Chevy in the background, someone who lives there must be car-aware. It’s also a good color, but it is up against a Storm in a fantastic color. If it were a GSi (or, even better for my bland, bland soul, a Prizm GSi hatchback in a comparable color), I might vote differently, but otherwise I’d take a look at the Probe and, if it drives decently and doesn’t look too bad in person (hard to tell how crappy the body is on my phone), maybe lowball around $4,500 to $5,000, assuming I can make it to Fort Worth without someone confusing me for a member of the East Coast liberal elite and shooting me. (At least they’d be charged with something and maybe even convicted in urbanized Texas. It’s not Florida, after all.)

Besides, the Storm’s ad has already been pulled while the Probe’s has not.

Bomber
Bomber
10 days ago

I’ve always had a soft spot for the Probe GT. The Storm is nice and basically indestructible but the Probe would be nicer in every other way

The Mark
The Mark
10 days ago

I’ll take the Storm and save the $3K for the parts it will need.

SirRaoulDuke
SirRaoulDuke
10 days ago

I am a big fan of this generation Probe GT. Such a big fan that I would want the best one I could find. And that’s not this one. It’s way overpriced for this condition, you know this thing has been ran hard and put up wet.

So give me the Storm. It would make a fun and cheap little commuter.

Scott Morrison
Scott Morrison
10 days ago

The Probe – although the mods are a red flag. I had a 93 GT in black. Great handling car, was mid pack in quickness though. I miss the ultra low hoodlines of the 90’s.

Freelivin2713
Freelivin2713
10 days ago

I’ll take the Mazda, I mean Ford
It looks better & has the better engine

Urban Runabout
Urban Runabout
10 days ago

I’ll take the Probe every day, and twice on Saturdays.
This one might need a wrap tho….

Hugh Crawford
Hugh Crawford
10 days ago

Paging Adrian Clarke:
Are these cars Dog Dick Red?
I’m still a little unclear about that nomenclature.

John J Gerding
John J Gerding
10 days ago

So, I had a 1990 Probe and it was a fantastic car. It was the base GL model, but the little four banger fooled many into thinking it was a V6. I put over 300,000 miles on that car before I gave it away, and it was still running fine at that point. It was the paint (the only thing that Ford actually contributed to the car) chipping and fading that convinced me it was time for it to go. Changing the body style is what killed it. The second generation were basically badge engineered from the Mazda MX6, and were not as distictive as the first edition.

Interesting factoid: The instrument panel in my 1991 RX7 is basically the same as the one in my Probe. What does that tell you?

Andreas8088
Andreas8088
10 days ago

There’s absolutely no way I’m paying $6500 for a $1500 car that’s been rode hard and put away wet. Mods, and that stupid shifter? Whoever owned this probably never even changed the oil. I’ll take the Storm which, while also very overpriced, is in much better condition.

Baja_Engineer
Baja_Engineer
10 days ago

I believe both cars are overpriced but if I’m going to overpay with my internet money it better be one of the poster cars of my childhood.

So Probe GT it is.

PS. The optional 7 band graphic equalizer behind the HVAC controls is the cherry on top.

Greensoul
Greensoul
10 days ago

I want the Probe in the color of the Storm. Ford did have a wild strawberry color in this era that had a very pinkish tone about it. God I miss cars having color.

Waferdog
Waferdog
10 days ago

I did not expect to pop onto the Autopian today and read about Dean’s list DJs at UWS in the early 90s. I was one for a year (’94 I think) but I don’t think I was a friend of the author then.

Angular Banjoes
Angular Banjoes
10 days ago

I’ve always liked the gen 2 Probe, specifically in GT trim. It still looks great 30 years later. While I really dig the color of that Storm, I have to go with the Probe.

Black Peter
Black Peter
10 days ago

Storms had pop-up “eyelids” that covered the upper third of the lights when they were off. This design was phased out during the 1992 mid-cycle refresh of the Storm, because frankly, it was silly.

You spelled “awesome” wrong.

Shop-Teacher
Shop-Teacher
10 days ago

I’ve always loved the baby Camaro looks of the Storm. While I don’t love the color pink, it totally works here, and thus one is in pretty darn good shape. I love it!

Manwich Sandwich
Manwich Sandwich
10 days ago

Probe GT for me. I know for a fact that Mazda-supplied V6 is a much sweeter engine than the 4 cyl in the Geo Storm.

So this was an easy pick. Also if you know anything about the Geo Storm and the related Isuzu vehicles, the parts on these are expensive and/or becoming unobtanium. So while the Storm is cheaper to buy, it’ll likely be a wash in the long run between it and the Probe.

Now if it was the Probe GT vs an Isuzu Impuse RS (the one with AWD and the 1.6L turbo), that would have been a much harder choice to make.

Last edited 10 days ago by Manwich Sandwich
EastbayLoc
EastbayLoc
10 days ago

Tough call. Close to even money, the Probe would win but for $6500 and crappy paint that would need to be redone maybe at the local remaining Earl Scheib, I’ll go Geostorm

The Storm on the other hand even with just 95Hp wins this one. I recall that they were fun and buzzy but that their engines did occasionally have some issues like leaks and some electrical gremlins. $3.3k still seems like a bit much but it’s better than $6500 for a car I really don’t want that much.

Church
Church
10 days ago

I’d only take the geo so I could make “How did this get made” GEOSTORM jokes that no one would understand.

Gilbert Wham
Gilbert Wham
10 days ago

Six and a half grand for a Ford Probe with janky paint is insane.

Rich Hobbs
Rich Hobbs
10 days ago

A stick ! As in manual…GD autocorrect…

Rich Hobbs
Rich Hobbs
10 days ago

I’ll take the old Chevy in the driveway! The Probe is an overpriced Mazda in need of a paint job! Plus Mazda parts can be expensive as is working on that transverse V6. The Storm is a stuck…way cheaper…new clutch! You never know it might come thru in the clutch foe way cheaper !

NebraskaStig
NebraskaStig
10 days ago
Reply to  Rich Hobbs

Lol. That “Chevy” is actually an Isuzu, so finding parts is probably going to be harder than that Mazda.

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