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One Surprising Reason Why Kia Is Outselling Hyundai Right Now

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Are you ready to start out Monday by having your mind blown? The original Kia Sportage sold in America could have easily been a Ford and, had things gone differently, Kia would have been owned by the Detroit automaker instead of part of a larger group with Hyundai. This was a good outcome for Kia and, perhaps, an even better outcome for Hyundai.

Hyundai and Kia sell roughly identical lineups in the United States, though each has their own distinct aesthetic. There are two big differences between the lineups, and those seem to favor Kia right now. The Morning Dump is all about surprising outcomes, and one is that the great Chinese EV expansion might not be going quite as well as you might expect as consumers in other Asian countries are a little wary about China.

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EV growth has been strong in Europe, but that won’t stop EU lawmakers from supporting its own automakers. At the same time, there’s mixed support in America for its own homegrown company.

Let’s end on a mystery. Why did Carvana, the massive online used car retailer built to disrupt traditional dealerships… buy a dealership?

It’s Van Time, America

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Last year, Hyundai outsold Kia in the United States by about 40,000 vehicles. Through the first two months of 2025, Kia has sold 120,310 vehicles. Hyundai, its sister brand, has sold 116,535. This is a small difference, and it’s quite possible that Hyundai will end up on top again this year.

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It’s an interesting scenario, though, and I have a theory as to why this is happening. First, though, a little history. South Korea’s Kia began, like many Asian car companies, by building licensed copies of someone else’s design. For Kia, this meant Honda motorcycles, Mazda trucks, and even some Fiats and Peugeots.

With the fall of South Korea’s military dictatorship, there was a new enthusiasm in the country and a desire for global trade. Because Mazda and Kia had a relationship, and Ford and Mazda had a relationship, this meant that Ford and Kia were linked. The Ford Festiva, sold here, was also a Kia Pride or Mazda 121 in other markets. Eventually, Mazda and Kia would develop a platform for the Japanese Bongo and the small Kia Sportage, which Kia wanted to sell in the United States. Could the Sportage have given us a pre-Escape Ford variant? That’s the rumor, though allegedly Ford was worrying about cannibalizing Explorer sales.

The Sportage was one of the earliest small crossover SUVs in the United States and found a real audience here. Unfortunately, the Asian financial crisis of the late ’90s hit Kia hard and the company was forced to reorganize. Ford was one of the bidders for Kia, but Hyundai ultimately ended up owning more than half of its one-time competitor. Unlike the Volkswagen-Audi relationship, for instance, Kia isn’t exactly a brand of Hyundai. They’re independent companies, though Hyundai is still the largest shareholder and the two companies develop platforms together.

Even though they’re “independent,” the companies sell mostly the same cars built on the same platforms in most markets. Kia has the EV6 and Hyundai has the Ioniq 5. Kia has the Telluride and Hyundai has the Palisade. The biggest difference between those, for most customers, is how they look.

There are some lineup variations. For instance, Kia sells the EV9 but Hyundai doesn’t have the Ioniq 9 for sale quite yet, I feel like this is cancelled out, though, by the fact that Hyundai has the Ioniq 6 and Kia doesn’t yet have the equivalent.

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The biggest difference, and the one I think is key, is that Hyundai sells an expensive small truck in the form of the Santa Cruz and Kia sells a reasonably priced minivan in the form of the Carnival. I love the Carnival, and am excited that there’s now a hybrid variant. I also really like the Santa Cruz. Abstractly, you might assume that a truck being sold in a bodystyle without a lot of competitors would outsell a minivan that has a lot of competition, but that’s not what happened.

Let’s look at the math. Through this year, Kia has sold 8,105 Carnivals. Hyundai has sold 3,724 Santa Cruzes. That’s a difference of 4,381 vehicles. The difference between Kia and Hyundai sales this year so far? 3,775 vehicles. That’s pretty close!

I think it’s reasonable that Kia and Hyundai looked at these two relatively niche markets and decided that, unlike crossovers, it wasn’t going to try and sell two small trucks and two minivans. What’s interesting to me is that the Santa Cruz, which when it was launched seemed like a no-brainer to me, has only had middling sales. The Carnival, which is in a more crowded space, has been a hit for Kia.

Besides design, I think cost is a big differentiator. The Santa Cruz has only one real competitor in the form of the Ford Maverick, but the Maverick launched at a price that was thousands of dollars cheaper. At the same time, the Maverick offers a hybrid and the Santa Cruz does not. This is the inverse for the Carnival. You can get the Carnival as a hybrid and, while it’s priced roughly the same as other vans, availability has meant that many buyers are likely to get a Carnival for less than a comparably equipped Sienna.

While it makes sense to me to not compete with itself in this market, I still want the company to try for no other reason than I like vans. What I’m saying is that Hyundai should sell the Staria here. More vans please! I’d also take a Kia version of the Santa Cruz in a hybrid. K, thx.

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Vinfast Is Killing China In Its Home Market

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The threat of Chinese automakers blowing up markets with heavily-subsidized, cheaply-produced electric cars is real. That being said, Chinese brands aren’t as strong in other places as you might guess. My favorite example is in England, where the historically British (though Chinese-owned) MG is killing it, but the many other Chinese brands are merely doing fine.

VinFast, despite stumbles here, is doing quite well selling cheap EVs in its home market of Vietnam according to Bloomberg:

VinFast, with its expanding network of proprietary charging stations and an entry level mini EV that costs around $11,700, is easily outselling Chinese rivals. Of the nearly 91,500 EVs sold in the country last year, more than 87,000 were VinFast models. However many of those sales were to VinFast-related parties, in particular the nation’s largest taxi service, Green and Smart Mobility JSC, which is 95% owned by VinFast founder Pham Nhat Vuong.

Besides cost and a huge local advantage, there are other reasons why VinFast is doing better than companies like BYD:

“It’s not practical to own a Chinese EV in Vietnam,” said Thinh Hanh, a 41-year old Hanoi resident who came to the VinFast showroom to look for a VF 6 model with his brother. Thinh has been driving a VF 9 since 2023 and likes the high level of personalization it provides that gasoline cars couldn’t offer. “There’s a lack of charging stations to suit Chinese cars.”

There’s also lingering reluctance to buy Chinese in light of historic tensions between the two Communist countries. “People are a bit concerned because this is a Chinese brand,” said Dong Hai, a salesman at Chery Automobile Co.’s showroom in Hanoi.

Some of this is extremely regional. When I spoke to buyers at the MG and BYD stands at the Goodwood Festival of Speed in the UK last year, it didn’t seem like people were that concerned about the cars being from Chinese automakers.

Europe Wants Its EV Batteries To Be More European

Volvo Cars And Northvolt Accelerate Shift To Electrification With New, 3,000 Job Battery Plant In Gothenburg, Sweden
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Europe’s electric car market has undergone a bit of a whiplash effect over the last few years, especially as countries have intermittently promoted and then pulled support for EV subsidies. This year EV sales are way up for pretty much everyone that isn’t Tesla, even if the batteries come from everywhere but Europe.

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It doesn’t help that one of the EU’s big battery projects, Northvolt, had to get bailed out.

Now the EU is looking for ways to increase the European content of batteries sold on the European continent according to Reuters:

The European Commission will present measures next week meant to boost demand for electric vehicles (EVs)in the European Union, and envisages local content requirements for car battery production, according to a draft of the proposals.

The EU executive will publish its automotive action plan on March 5 to help ensure EU car producers can electrify their fleets and compete with more advanced Chinese and U.S. rivals.

The “U.S. rivals” bit is interesting. Ford does sell electric cars in Europe, though I think a lot of this has to do with Tesla. At some point in the future I might write a piece about how Europe ending fines on electric cars could inadvertently… or maybe not so inadvertently… harm Tesla.

This concern has shifted to the United States where the head of one of America’s largest unions is implying that, hey, maybe asset managers should by more wary of Tesla’s prospects. Why? The concern is that the people who run the funds that their members are invested in aren’t seeing that Tesla could be in trouble because they don’t want to get on the President’s bad side.

Investors initially seemed to reward Tesla for Trump’s victory, though much of those gains have been wiped out. Where this goes is anyone’s guess.

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Carvana Buys A Dealership

Here’s a weird one for you. Carvana, the massive online used car retailer, has purchased a Stellantis dealership franchise in Casa Grande, Arizona.

From Automotive News:

Carvana bought Jerry Seiner Chrysler-Dodge-Jeep-Ram in Casa Grande, Ariz. — roughly 45 miles south of Tempe, Ariz., where the company is headquartered. Carvana confirmed the deal to Automotive News. A transaction price was not disclosed.

A Carvana spokesperson provided the following statement via email to Automotive News:

“We’re always experimenting and this is a small test in a single market. We are excited to join the Stellantis network and our focus in this test will be learning how to provide great customer experiences at a franchise dealership — we don’t expect it to have any noticeable impact to our results for the foreseeable future.”

Why did they do this? A couple of months ago, Car Dealership Guy asked Carvana about exactly this scenario and CEO Ernie Garcia was somewhat dismissive. Within CDG’s question was the answer to why this might be happening: Inventory. Quite simply, Carvana needs cars to sell, and while its model is designed to do an end-run around dealerships by offering an easier experience, car dealers get a lot of vehicles.

This will be fun to watch.

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What I’m Listening To While Writing TMD

I love a good FU Break Up song. Here’s Chappel Roan with “My Kink Is Karma” if you enjoy a vengeful ex, clown makeup, and roller blades. “No need to be hateful in your fake Gucci sweater” is such a good burn.

The Big Question

Why do you think Kia is outselling Hyundai so far? Is it just some boring availability/design thing? The Kia Soul? Design?

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FormerTXJeepGuy
FormerTXJeepGuy
29 days ago

Stellantis Financial won’t let 3rd parties buy out leases for trade ins.

I wonder if part of this Carvana acquisition is an end run around that to feed those potential trades through.

Nathan
Nathan
1 month ago

Kia has not even released the K3 yet

Suss6052
Suss6052
1 month ago
Reply to  Nathan

EV3, K3 is the Rio replacement and isn’t slated for the USA at least but the EV3 was

Nathan
Nathan
1 month ago
Reply to  Suss6052

The K3 is the replacement for the rio/forte and it should be available in the US sometime this summer. Mexican tariffs may push this back because there is no point to import them at 25% tariffs.

The EV3 is going to cost $15k more than a K3 so it will only be bought by early adopters with money.

Suss6052
Suss6052
1 month ago
Reply to  Nathan

The K4 replaced the Forte and is already on sale in the US, and unless something changed since they announced the discontinuation of Rio there’s no planned replacement in the US as of the press release for the K3. https://www.kianewscenter.com/news/all/bold-and-progressive-kia-k3-sets-new-standards-in-its-class/s/3cbf321e-4f39-4892-8a35-c22f650d73ac

So I’m not sure where you got that speculation from other than wishful thinking from Car and Driver magazine

Nathan
Nathan
1 month ago
Reply to  Suss6052

The K4 is quite a bit larger than the Forte, and this leaves no cars being sold in the US with the 1.6L engine. Hyundai still sells the Venue, so it is not like this engine is not already certified.

There is a high probability I will buy a K3 when it is released, and a 0% chance I will buy an EV3. Just take my money already Kia!

Suss6052
Suss6052
30 days ago
Reply to  Nathan

Look at the market segment in the US, the last subcompact sedan and hatch was the Mitsubishi Mirage, Honda no longer sells the Fit/Jazz, sister company Hyundai killed the Accent which was built in the same plant as the also defunct Rio. With the exception of the slightly lifted looking CUV variants for more money the B-segment is dead in the US and the fact that they made K3 a little bit bigger than Rio but smaller than K4 is not enough reason to justify the low volume presumably unless they officially announce anything as coming here. Especially if our politicians are hell bent on a trade war with Mexico where the K3 is built in our region. I can see K3 in Canada, but not the US unless the market massively shifts cheaper. I’m excluding the Nissan Versa from this discussion as it was larger and more expensive than the rest of the b segment

Nathan
Nathan
30 days ago
Reply to  Suss6052

If Kia does not want to sell me a replacement for my Rio, I will never buy another car from them. Period.

The B-segment is not dead in America. The dealership network does not want to order B-segment because they earn less per sale. Is it really fair to compare sales of cars that the dealers carry on the lot, with one that requires customers to put down a deposit and wait 6 weeks for delivery?

WaCkO
WaCkO
1 month ago

I say the Kia Version of the ionic6 is also the EV6

One More Last Chance
One More Last Chance
1 month ago

Kia is selling more cars because it’s easier to spell than Huynday…Hyundia..Hundai… Just give me the Kia.

Live2ski
Live2ski
1 month ago

it’s KN

Harvey Firebirdman
Harvey Firebirdman
1 month ago
Reply to  Live2ski

Kia needs to give nine inch nails their logo back

InvivnI
InvivnI
1 month ago

The Staria is actually pretty compromised as a people mover – it’s more of a traditional van fitted with seats rather than the Carnival’s purpose built platform. This means the back row doesn’t fold down into the floor like on the Carnival and the driving dynamics are closer to “commercial vehicle” rather than “large car”. We have both available here in the Australian market and the Carnival outsells it by a sizable margin. In fact, the Carnival has something like 80% of the people mover market here.

Captain Avatar
Captain Avatar
1 month ago
Reply to  InvivnI

This. The two weeks before we moved back to the US, and had already shipped our cars, the on base Enterprise gave us a Staria because I mentioned we were moving into a hotel from our off base rental.

I thought…”oh, a van! Great”.

Its a cargo van with seats and an underpowered engine. And, like you said, they made a terribel decision to not let the third row fold down. At all. And nothing folds into the floor. Its a large flat area between the cockpit and the third row, but elevated, so its hard to get cargo into.

It drives and rides like the airport shuttle it is.

Shop-Teacher
Shop-Teacher
1 month ago

CarMax owns a Toyota dealership in Kenosha, WI too. They’ve had it for years.

Last edited 1 month ago by Shop-Teacher
Matt Sexton
Matt Sexton
1 month ago
Reply to  Shop-Teacher

I’m pretty sure that dealership has been completely separated from CarMax. They built an entirely new building next door for the Toyota operation, and when they did I read in AN that it had been CarMax’s last remaining owned new car franchise. Some of the personnel were split off to the new dealership. Both locations are customers of ours and they are separate accounts with different payment processes.

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