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Screw It, Just Buy A Hybrid

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If an electric car makes sense in your life, then you should probably buy one. Or, even better, you should ttake advantage of an extremely good lease deal while you can. If you are not practically or emotionally ready for an EV, but require a relatively normal new vehicle, it’s hard to argue that you should buy anything that isn’t a hybrid.

Don’t just trust me, your hybrid-loving Morning Dump author. The fine folks at Consumer Reports are out with their list of the cars they recommend in each category and most of them are either hybrids or offer a hybrid. CR is somewhat apolitical and so, reasonably, also recommends the Tesla Model Y as the best all-around EV.

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What’s Tesla CEO Elon Musk up to? A lot, as he tries to both serve the new President and also keep China happy.

Aston Martin will report financial results tomorrow, and it’ll be interesting to see how well the company’s 13th attempt at revitalization will go. Is Warren Buffett going to invest in Aston Martin? Probably not. Instead, he’s investing in Japan.

Consumer Reports Suggests You Buy A Bunch Of Hybrids

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I don’t always agree with the methodology employed by Consumer Reports, but I don’t know a group of people who work harder or do more to independently verify the capabilities of new vehicles. I’ve been to their test facility and have witnessed firsthand all they do to assure manufacturers live up to their promises.

The main issue is that the CR audience is, mostly, people who subscribe to CR, which means there’s an inherent bias towards a specific kind of upper-middle-class, college-educated car buyer. That’s fine. The Autopian has a bias towards enthusiasts and people who own more than one Saturn.

CR is out with their list of 10 best cars to buy in 2025 and, notably, there are a lot of hybrids. In fact, it’s great to compare it to their list from 2021, which had its own category for hybrids. Now, you basically have a category for non-hybrids (the electric car), since almost every car either:

  • Is a hybrid
  • Has a hybrid option
  • Will come with a hybrid soon

You want a nice luxury SUV? Get the Lexus RX450h, which has Toyota’s hybrid system. You want a new sub-compact crossover? Get the Crosstrek… which will soon be available with a hybrid from Toyota. You want a crossover? Get the Forester, which has Toyota’s hybrid system as an option. Do you want a “fuel-efficient” SUV? Get the RAV-4… also with Toyota’s hybrid system. Toyota’s hybrid system appears (or will appear) in six out of the 10 recommended cars by the end of next year.

The cars that don’t have Toyota’s system? The Nissan Sentra, which has no hybrid option in the United States, and the Ford Maverick (great choice), which has a hybrid system that’s quite similar to Toyota’s because the two companies initially developed the technology together. The BMW X5 PHEV doesn’t have Toyota’s system, but I liked it when I drove it and totally understand why it makes the list.

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The “why” here is important. Getting past the obvious fuel economy benefits, most non-hybrid vehicles these days feature a small turbocharged three- or four-cylinder engine mated to a CVT. This is a terrible combination, usually, and makes these cars somewhat miserable to drive if you regularly drive anything else.

Take the Toyota Corolla Cross. This is a small, cheap crossover that in its non-hybrid form is a chore to drive. Yet, with the CVT ditched for an “eCVT” that’s not really a CVT at all, the car is suddenly transformed into something that, if not exciting to drive, at least feels right.

That’s the way it is with most of these cars (although the non-hybrid Maverick is pretty good).

An obvious flaw in my argument is that hybrids do cost more than the non-hybrid options, and it can take a while to make up the difference. Not everyone buying a new car can afford, say, the $1,500 price difference between a base Corolla LE and a Hybrid LE. That’s fair. If you can make it work, the lower cost of ownership should make up the difference over time, but that’s a big “if” for some people.

Other than the Sentra, the only totally non-hybrid is the Tesla Model Y. It’s hard to argue against the Model Y on paper. It’s well-priced, has a great charging network, comes with a lot of safety features, and is the most popular electric car in the world (and probably most popular car period) for a reason.

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Elon Musk’s Problems In China Are Real

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I cannot write every day about everything Elon Musk does, otherwise, my daily activity report to Jason would contain nothing but me trying to explain all the things Elon Musk did or is alleged to have done. Am I going to spend all my time trying to explain why the State Department did or did not try to buy a bunch of Tesla Cybertrucks? The conflict of interest that is Musk’s DOGE agency choosing who to fire at the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration?

Nope. No thank you. Maybe another day. Not today.

As I said yesterday, it’s possible that all of the above is encouraging some people to not buy Teslas. Sales seem like they’re down in every market, though we won’t know for sure until we get Tesla’s Q1 sales report (or, a few weeks later, all the regional registration reports).

One market where Tesla needs to do well, though, is China, and I don’t see any indication that the average Chinese consumer cares much about the CEO of the company making major government job-cuts (including to National Park services). What they care about is having an ADAS suite and navigation to help them maneuver through China’s complex cities.

Unfortunately for Musk and Tesla customers, the government hasn’t yet allowed Tesla to push out all of its capabilities as Reuters reports:

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Musk wants to bring full Autopilot and FSD systems to China but has said that the effort was proving to be tricky due to technology restrictions imposed by both the U.S. and Chinese governments. The company has postponed an initial goal of end-2024 to this year.

Several Chinese social media users said the update was a disappointment as it did not achieve the capabilities Tesla has advertised for years and said rival Chinese automakers were offering similar driver-assistance features at a lower price or for free.

Lu Panpan, a Tesla car owner in China’s eastern Zhejiang province, said he paid 56,000 yuan ($7,720) for FSD software when he bought his Long-Range Model 3 in 2019 but has been frustrated by the lack of updates to its features.

“We can tell Tesla has no choice but to deliver a knowingly restricted system …,” said Lu. “It is hard for Tesla to catch up with the smart-driving capabilities in Chinese cars, which even makes less sense given its high pricing.”

It is weird that a billionaire electric car mogul gets to decide how the agencies that oversee his company operate while, at the same time, very much needing help from the Chinese government to maintain his wealth.

At least I think it’s strange, but, as far as Musk stuff goes, it’s not even the 19th strangest thing that’s happened in the last 24 hours.

Is Aston Martin Going To Make It Work?

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We are so, so close to finding out from Aston Martin if its plans to turn itself around are starting to work. In particular, tomorrow’s financial report will be our best indication of whether or not new CEO Adrian Hallmark was able to work the same magic on Aston that he formerly did on Bentley.

Here, for you, is a little preview of what’s going on via Bloomberg:

Hallmark wants to trim production to avoid wasting money making cars that sit unsold, people with knowledge of the company’s plans said. The CEO has already said he wants to reduce Aston Martin’s delivery target to around 8,000 vehicles per year, from Stroll’s stated ambition of 10,000. This is all about boosting margins, as Hallmark flagged to analysts in October: “The bottom line — cash and profit — are what we’re going to be obsessively focused on, not volume first.”

The company will also try to fix perennial problems in its supply chain, the people said, explaining that Aston Martin has often picked cheap suppliers for parts who then fail to deliver on time, leaving the company paying more than expected to fix issues.

Aston Martin isn’t planning to launch any new models in the near future — to save money on development costs — and will instead try to launch more derivatives of its existing models, something that Lamborghini, Porsche and Bentley have successfully done, the people said. At Bentley, Hallmark oversaw a strategy of offering customers the opportunity to customize their vehicles. In 2023, the last full year he was in charge, more than 70% of Bentley’s cars were fitted out with add-ons like special trim.

That’s a tall order, though the car world is more interesting when Aston is successful.

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Warren Buffett Seems To Think Japan Is Undervalued

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Warren Buffett, via his company Berkshire Hathaway, was one of the first people to understand the huge value proposition of Chinese carmaker BYD. It’s not that Buffett is always right, it’s that he’s rarely wrong to a degree that matters in the long run. He also seems to acknowledge errors in thinking in a way few others seem to these days.

Buffett, it seems, is looking to Japan and the country’s big trading houses. You can read the full letter here, but here’s the relevant part:

It’s been almost six years since Berkshire began purchasing shares in five Japanese companies that very successfully operate in a manner somewhat similar to Berkshire itself. The five are (alphabetically) ITOCHU, Marubeni, Mitsubishi, Mitsui and Sumitomo. Each of these large enterprises, in turn, owns interests in a vast array of businesses, many based in Japan but others that operate throughout the world.

Berkshire made its first purchases involving the five in July 2019. We simply looked at their financial records and were amazed at the low prices of their stocks. As the years have passed, our admiration for these companies has consistently grown. Greg has met many times with them, and I regularly follow their progress. Both of us like their capital deployment, their management and their attitude in respect to their investors.

What’s interesting here is that the vibes from Japan haven’t been all that great lately. Perhaps that’s about to change.

What I’m Listening To While Writing TMD

This suggestion came from Gossin’s post over the weekend and, yeah, Joni Mitchell singing “Big Yellow Taxi” does seem appropriate.

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The Big Question

What’s your top ten list of cars to buy for 2025?

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Xx Yy Zz
35 minutes ago

The cars I’d look at if I wanted/needed a new car are mostly small and low on power, so they are quite economical without a (full)hybrid system. Like the Space Star/Mirage, for example.

Beached Wail
Beached Wail
36 minutes ago

Just bought a 2025 CR-V hybrid last month. We buy new cars and keep them for a long time (its stable-mate is a 2007 CR-V also bought new). We wanted something that was versatile, great for road trips, and capable of carrying 4 adults in comfort. We live adjacent to a popular tourist area and we get regular adult-sized friends visiting who appreciate a local guide but don’t really enjoy spending several hours in the back of a Fit (great as the Fit is for most other uses).

The Canadian factory did an exemplary job of assembly and every feature Just Works, including potentially finicky tech like wireless CarPlay, rain-sensing wipers, wireless phone charger, and the various safety sensors. This is the quietest Honda we’ve ever driven and so far it’s averaging 4mpg better than my 2009 Fit and it hasn’t even been driven much in traffic, where hybrid fuel economy is best.

Mrbrown89
Mrbrown89
46 minutes ago

I dont like my electric company raising rates every single year (a lot of people is complaining about their bills being very high compared to other years) and is not like I can source different companies in the region to compare rates. Even with solar, they establish the price they will pay you. Driving an electric like the Bolt or a PHEV like the Volt makes sense since they are very efficient.

EVs with 3.0mi/kwh or above are a good answer if you want to compete with a Hybrid option with these cheap gas prices. At least with gas I have options to see who has better pricing like Costco or BJs.

If gas continues to be subsidized and cheap, EVs will take longer to go mainstream.

Younork
Younork
29 minutes ago
Reply to  Mrbrown89

Where in the US is gas subsidized? Most states have 10%+ of tax on each gallon of gas.

Morale Buddy
Morale Buddy
25 minutes ago
Reply to  Younork

While we do pay a tax at the pump, the process of getting that gas to that pump is subsidized. Petroleum extraction and refinement are massively subsidized industries.

Tbird
Tbird
50 minutes ago

The family fleet:

’14 Camry Hybrid 241000
’07 Corolla S 133000
’05 Acura MDX 174000
’09 Pontiac Vibe 264000

I’m considering replacing the MDX with newer SUV (Pilot/Highlander/Explorer) but TBH it still meets all my needs, is paid for and still not embarrassing looking. The Camry I plan to run forever and the wife still likes her old Corolla (although it is just starting to rust around the rear wheel arches). Daughter is happy with the Vibe as it is cheap, efficient transport.

SpeedyTheCat
SpeedyTheCat
56 minutes ago

I am looking to buy 1-2 cars for myself and 1 for the wife.

For me: (keeping the C6)

  1. 2006 or older Wrangler/CJ and one of the following
  2. 1968’ish+ VW Bug or
  3. Porsche 914 or
  4. Old Volvo (like a 122)

For the wife: getting rid of the 2021 Honda Pilot that we both dislike

  1. Toyota Venza
  2. Lexus RX350/450h
  3. or ??
Sackofcheese
Sackofcheese
1 hour ago

Since we’re casually shopping to replace my wife’s kid hauler the choices right now are
New Mazda CX90 (her top pick because she likes her CX9)
New Honda Pilot
New Toyota Grand Highlander
CPO/Used Acura MDX Type S (My choice)
CPO Bmw X5
Used Ford Expedition

For me there are only 2 new cars I’d want, one could be a kid hauler too
Honda Civic Type R (to replace my 2018 CTR)
Mazda Miata (In addition to my 1994 NA Miata)

Reasonable Pushrod
Reasonable Pushrod
1 hour ago
Reply to  Sackofcheese

I Bought a CX-90 (The MHEV not the PHEV) a couple of weeks ago to be my wife’s new kid hauler. I’ve found myself grabbing the keys to it often on the weekends. It’s a fantastic car and the I6 is outstanding.

Clear_prop
Clear_prop
1 hour ago

The Autopian has a bias towards enthusiasts and people who own more than one Saturn.

Geez, just @ me next time. My fleet of terrible cars now only contains two rusty Saturns. The ‘good’ one is no more after it decided the smog test dyno was a good spot for all its coolant.

My Goat Ate My Homework
My Goat Ate My Homework
12 minutes ago
Reply to  Clear_prop

I just sold one of my Saturn’s last year and I only own 1 now. So i think this is Matt trolling me. Just say it Matt, You’re questioning my Autopian-ness aren’t you?

Max Headbolts
Max Headbolts
1 hour ago

I made an unplanned, but long researched and sought out car puchase a the end of 2024 with a used 2013 Civic Si. The only real reason it was a need is that my 03 Lx’s list of major repairs has gotten too long to get done over a couple of weekends, so it’ll need to be down at least a few weeks for:
Clutch
Engine/Transmission Mounts
Valve Cover and Cam Cover gaskets
Passenger Side Lower Control Arm
Front Brakes
Driver Door open switch failure
Backup Camera Install
DEEEP interior cleaning and detail
Possibly a Sub Woofer install

If I were to do wish fulfilment effort, I’d swap out the hydralic Power Steering for an EPS unit from a 7th Gen Si, which should net me like 10% horspower gains by reduced parasitic loss; a full Exhaust including header, Cold Air Intake, CAM, Vtec Head, and a Hondata to tune it’s guts out for; wait for it…

130 Horsepower, on a very good day.

Harvey Firebirdman
Harvey Firebirdman
1 hour ago

Oh I didn’t mention my top of vehicles buying this year is a Kubota tractor for my property for mowing, to redo my gravel driveway and to start clearing trails in the woods on my property.

Frank Wrench
Frank Wrench
1 hour ago

Do it! Bought a mid 90s B20 about 10 years ago and will never part with it. Told my wife she can dig my grave with it.

Harvey Firebirdman
Harvey Firebirdman
1 hour ago
Reply to  Frank Wrench

We are looking at getting a new B01 series (compact) we were looking at BX’s (sub compact) but decided to go a the step up for the bigger one (hopefully I don’t regret not going even bigger haha) but I cannot wait to be done with our falling apart almost 20 year old zero turn cub cadet we bought from our houses old owner.

Frank Wrench
Frank Wrench
1 hour ago

I borrowed a friend’s BX23 for a trenching job and was amazed how capable it was. I looked at several BXs but I’m happy I ended up with the larger B20. The BX looks like a riding mower next to it. With rear tires filled it weighs in around 4,200 lbs which is about all I can haul on my flat bed trailer.

M SV
M SV
1 hour ago

Hybrids are a great proven tech. I wish there were more plugin hybrids but some of the hybrids have such small batteries I guess it’s not worth the complexity. I keep a few hybrids in my fleet. The Toyota hybrids from 05 to 09 are basically unkillable. This is where I think Ford really screwed up. They built all those lightings and mustang e. That no one really wanted after the initial release. They should have used to production lines and batteries to build tons more maverick hybrids. Now the maverick is almost too expensive to justify and they aren’t selling as well. If Toyota can deliver a hybrid trucklet under $25k they will sell fleet and fleets

Ben
Ben
1 hour ago
Reply to  M SV

You can blame Tesla investors for the over-investment in EVs at most companies. Everyone (except Toyota) was chasing that sweet, sweet Tesla stock price without realizing that Tesla’s valuation made no damn sense if they were just a car company, so no traditional car company was ever going to get the same treatment from investors.

M SV
M SV
53 minutes ago
Reply to  Ben

Probably something too that. The emissions standards probably didn’t help and being told BEV is the only way. The whole hydrogen scam and the “decarbonization” death cult are also fun things that shouldn’t have happened. Toyota making performance hybrids is smart they have been on there road since 05. Now with standard hybrids being cheap natural progression can take its course. And hopefully the “I’m saving the planet because I bought a new car” crowd will be quiet this time.

Frank Wrench
Frank Wrench
1 hour ago

It’s embarrassing that I have 6 cars on the road for 3 drivers and we still don’t have something that can haul the whole family of 5 plus dog. We end up taking 2 vehicles. I’d really like a new Sienna for family hauling but my wife isn’t crazy about it and says it’s too big. She like my Mon’s RAV-4 hybrid much better. The longer we wait, the less we’ll need the big family hauler. Kid 1 is heading far away to college next year.

Maybe waiting it out makes sense. But the average age of the fleet is 25 and it’d be nice to have one newer car I don’t have to worry about and doesn’t require FAA level mechanical checks before every long trip.

Brockstar
Brockstar
1 hour ago
Reply to  Frank Wrench

This is The Autopian. I’m pretty sure the member requirements state that the vehicle to driver ratio of any member must be at a minimum of 2:1. It looks like your only option is a 1 in 1 out policy or stepping up to vehicle #7.

Fuzzyweis
Fuzzyweis
1 hour ago

There definitely should be a different naming for eCVT vs CVT, gears vs bands. Though I think some slacker hybrids still use band CVTs.

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