Unsellable. That’s what my 2011 Nissan Leaf — a vehicle that I bought for $2000 and which only has about 30 miles of EV range (in the city) left due to a severely-degraded battery — seemed like. Who wants a car that can only reliably drive for 15 minutes on the highway before requiring a two-hour recharge? I was convinced I’d be stuck with this machine forever, and while I ultimately did manage to pawn the thing off, getting to that resolution was a nightmare.
When I moved to LA, I may have gone a bit overboard on the project cars, especially given that I really didn’t have an understanding of what my living/relationship/workload situation would be. I bought a Nash Metropolitan, a Nissan Leaf, a World War II Jeep, a Jeep Wrangler YJ, A Willys CJ-3B, a Pontiac Aztek, two BMW i3s, and… man I hope that’s all. My god that’s a huge list.
Needless to say, that’s too many cars, so I’m axing a few of them.
At Least I Got Some Content Out Of It
I already ditched the Jeep Cherokee Golden Eagle I brought from Michigan; now it was time to ditch the Leaf, which is basically a paperweight that has left me in a lurch — and even stranded — far, far too many times. Seriously, look at this misery.
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The Nissan Leaf was initially meant to donate its EV components to the World War II Jeep I bought for $85, but that project isn’t happening, and that Nissan Leaf is just sitting in the Galpin employee lot, taking up space. So it’s gotta go. I’m a little bummed I don’t have time for the EV swap, but at the same time, I’m happy with all the wacky content I got out of this thing, even if hundreds of thousands of anti-EV extremists used it as fodder for their anti-ev rants:
Heck, this crappy Leaf even got me on Fox News!:
Selling This Car Online Was A Nightmare
I bought the Leaf about a year ago for $2000. My power company gave me a $1000 rebate under the condition that I keep the car for 20 months. I’ve sold it about 10 months in, meaning I’ll have to give back $500. So basically, I paid $1500 for the car. That’s what I wanted for the vehicle, but it didn’t quite happen. Honestly, the whole sale was a shitshow. Here’s my Facebook Marketplace listing (I’m sensitive to the fact that some of these folks likely just didn’t have the funds and needed a way to get to work; I wish them well):
Here’s my Offerup listing:
First off, there were the standard dumb-messages that have turned so much of thete internet into a deeply frustrating automotive marketplace. Lots of “Hi, is this available?” messages with no reply and lots of people offering to pay a sum significantly less than what I was asking:
One guy tried pulling the “It’s gonna cost me INFINITY dollars to fix that fender” classic bargaining card:
Lots of people made offers but never came through:
But mostly, what I noticed was a lack of understanding, not just about how EVs work, but also about how rebates work. This guy asked me if he could drive to Vegas. I made it very, very clear that he cannot.
This person just didn’t know how the used EV rebate worked:
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Then there was my conversation with Teniesha, who seemed legitimately interested until I actually talked out of buying my car!:
I had to be honest, here. Teniesha lives in Long Beach, and her poor daughter is about to get a car for college — and that car is going to be a vehicle that can maybe do 30 miles of EV range with the AC off and driving super carefully (35 if she’s a master efficient-driver)? And once the car is dead, it takes two hours to charge just to get you back to 30 miles of range? Forget about it. I was feeling sorry for her already, and I just couldn’t saddle that poor child with this dastardly machine.
I Finally Sold It, But Even That Wasn’t Easy
In the end, I only felt comfortable selling the car to a man named Richard, and that’s because he’s already owned a Nissan Leaf with a degraded battery, so I figured he knew what he was in for. He wanted the car for his daughter, who had recently gotten into a crash in her own low-range Leaf; Richard was happy with its crash performance.
He even sent me a video of a Nissan Leaf owner showing how much range the guess-o-meter shows when fully charged. He asked me to take a similar video so he had an idea of how badly the battery was degraded.
I sent Richard a video of me showing what range the dashboard indicated at full charge, and he responded with:
I told him it could, but only if you drove carefully; to make sure he was 100% onboard, I recorded me driving over 25 miles:
Richard wanted to buy my car, and after his initially $1,200 offering, then $1,400 offering, he agreed to $1,500. He then asked me this:
I was so desperate to get rid of this paperweight, I agreed to meet him halfway between where the car was, Van Nuys, and where he lives, Hesperia — 100 miles away. I told him I could meet him in San Dimas, which was appropriate because Dimas sounds like “dumbass,” which I was for suggesting this.
Richard hadn’t even demanded it, but again, my desperation meant I would do almost anything just to get rid of the car without losing too much money (I am, after all, a cheap bastard).
We were to meet at 7:45 AM in San Dimas, which meant I had to leave Van Nuys — where the car was parked — at 5:45 on a Sunday morning. I could drive 30 miles (which would take an hour on surface streets) to Pasadena, then charge the car halfway for about a half an hour, then drive another 30 minute to San Dimas. All in, it would take me two hours.
Of course, that didn’t work out as I planned. Because of the uphill grade, the Leaf only just made it to Pasadena roughly 24 miles away, and then I couldn’t for the life of me find a fast charger since nobody uses CHAdeMO plugs anymore, meaning I had to use regular level-2 J1772 chargers. This normally wouldn’t be a huge issue except — and this blew my mind when I found out — the Leaf can only charge up to 3.3 kW with a J1772 charger. That’s glacial.
That’s literally 10 miles of range per hour. I needed 20 miles in 30 minutes.
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In the end, I messaged Richard and asked him to drive from San Dimas to Pasadena to pick up his car with his trailer. I lopped $100 off my $1,500 price, but finally — after over a month on the market for under two grand — the Leaf was gone. And with it, so were the headaches.
I’m sure it’s been covered, but I am lazy and so here goes:
How much does it cost to replace the battery?
How much does an SR20DE swap go for?
How much for an LS1 swap?
What will California do to you if you put an ICE engine in an EV?
I think they’ll put me to death.
Nancy Pelosi wants to know your location.
How would they know? Does California require BEV inspections to fill in the revenue gap of smog inspections?
More in the spirit of the car, is there a battery conversion that gets you more range (ideally with active cooling)?
Sure. It’s called “generator on a trailer”.
Congratulations, you now have a hybrid.
And 15% thermal efficiency!!
There’s somewhat larger replacements that’ll get you 40kWh and ~100 miles. Still maybe a bit on the short side for the sprawl of LA, but not bad. That’d make it a $10K car, which might or might not be worth it.
You should check out this Leaf hybrid.
I just finally sold my ’99 Land Cruiser and had the same experience with Facebook Marketplace. I never want to sell a car myself again. Fucking buyers, man.
This is absolute standard Facebook Marketplace. The experience selling a nearly perfect Honda Shadow 750 for only slightly more, was basically identical. In the end, you got the top of the market price for it still, after wading through the BS.
Here’s a question for you, Shop-Teacher: Do I sell my high-dollar i3 or my gray 2014 i3?
The high-dollar one is $30 grand back in my pocket. BUT, that might tempt me to buy more cars, since I now have more jingle in my pocket. Will owning something expensive lead me to stop buying cars out of sheer guilt/cheapness?
It’s unclear. What is clear is that >5 cars is too many.
Sell either one. Put 90% of the money into S&P500. Buy a couple of 2-stroke standup PWC for $800 and do a project series ripping them around Santa Monica harbor.
Keep whichever one you’ll drive more. You’ll always be tempted to buy more cars, so the money makes no difference. Focus on the driving. There’s also no shame in treating yourself to that nice thing, if you can afford it. But there’s no point in having a nice thing, if you never use it.
I’d buy the cheap one off you in a heartbeat, if I could afford it.
Good advice. I do feel kinda guilty owning nice things, though. I wonder if I’ll ever get over that.
I feel guilty about owning nice things too. For decades I had cheap disposable but fun cars. Now I’m not struggling financially I’m on my second Lotus, but I can’t mention that I’ve got it without also mentioning that it’s the worst version of the one no one likes.
I sometimes wish I had a battered £2k Lexus IS200 instead that I could turbo and weld the diff on.
Some of that stuff is hard wired into us pretty deep. If you do decide to keep the newer more expensive one, I implore you to drive it and enjoy it. Life is too short to not enjoy the fruits of our labor.
Five cars in California is at least 2 cars too many. You cannot be trusted with cash in your pocket – keep the high $ i3
Do not give up on your “forever car”.
Request: Can we get an article from the person who comment “Tesla was a Freemason”? I think we should hear the guy out. I mean “Cancer going up!” is pretty concerning, I’m sure it is a well reasoned argument.
“Tesla was a Freemason”
I mean, so is Steve Wozniak and also that guy around the corner from me who rebuilds boat engines
I think my 1/10 NiCad ’80s RC car with a Reedy pink dot had more range. A modest bank of lead-acids would probably get farther.
You have more patience than I do and I’m kind of surprised you sold it that easily considering how useless the range is to all but a very small group of people. That’s pretty much bicycle range. I let my Camry go for half of what I paid just a few months earlier (emergency covid buy as my asshole car chose that time to need an engine) to the first guy who actually showed up just to be done with the runaround. If he didn’t show, I would have donated it (but not to Kars for Kids!).
What did Galpin offer you for it? LOL
I believe they offered him a Sympathy card that was signed by all of the Galpin staff. 😉
This is pretty much what selling on Marketplace is. I have a deal to sell a Sony hi fi to somebody for $30, was supposed to meet him local to our workplaces today around lunch, but he’s been ghosting me all day on a time/location. It’s a $30 stereo, it’s in my back seat right now, I give it to you, you give me the money, it’s not complicated
But, it isn’t much better from the buyers perspective, either. I hate making large transactions with private parties, with how annoying it is to draw any decently large sum of cash out of a bank these days and how reluctant anyone other than a dealership is to take anything but cash, and the logistics of transportation to/from and all. There’s a classic car I really want out in western Pennsylvania, but I’m just having trouble mentally getting myself into the right mindset to go through all that, if it was a dealer, I’d have stopped by the showroom and given them a check days ago and be just sitting around waiting for the transporter to show up
$30? Throw it in a dumpster.
I was trying to avoid that, it’s in perfect condition, people way more than that for Crosley garbage every day. Ended up working out
Would have given it away for free, but just felt like it was worth getting something
San Dimas High School football RULES
I came to the comments for this.
I know it’s below what you were willing to take, but I feel like $1000 for a barely usable car isn’t so ridiculous as to cause offense. One lap through Costco-> Home Depot-> grocery store would kill half the battery, and I live really close to those things. I literally could not drive to any friend’s house save one. And this is all predicated on it being neither hot nor cold, too.
The thing was junk and I think you’re lucky someone paid you rather than you paying to have it towed.
I would have just called a pick-a-part lot to come pick it up. Surely you could have gotten at least a grand and not had to deal with many people.
Congrats and good luck on this latest purge. You should be getting good at this by now.
30 miles of range is plenty for a small town like Key West or maybe a “golf cart community” somewhere. Enough to get to church and back. Good for you for being able to unload it.
But it’s gonna be 25 miles next year, and then 19 miles in 2026 and so on.
30 mi enough for most cities (not ‘burbs, maybe not CA). For me, 5 supermkt (1 each Asian & Mexican), Target within 2mi, big-box builders 4mi, tho Costco & Walmart are in the ‘burbs, maybe 8mi.
If you’re going to axe a few more of your vehicles, remember Torch has a chainsaw; things will go much faster with that.
… dude….. I miss when people used Craigslist. Marketplace is just awful. The automated questions and answers are terrible, and because Craigslist required at least some BASIC understanding of the internet, there was a barrier to entry.
You see, I’m still convinced the downfall to humanity was when Facebook dropped their .edu email address requirement, allowing all the mouthbreathers and boomers that can’t fullscreen a powerpoint access to sharing idiotic opinions, and cluttering up your inbox with obnoxious time wasting questions about something that is CLEARLY defined in the very title of the ad.
Right now, I am trying to sell a massive 19′ model train layout. The first word in the ad says “Massive” and the second words are the size of the layout, which is clearly 19’x6.5′. One guy seems so interested. Talked to him on the phone several times, emailed back and forth, and then he was like “oh this won’t fit in a truck bed? I was thinking I could set it on my pool table around the holidays”
Me on the phone
Marketplace would be fine, well, not fine, tolerable, if they fixed the search function so it actually locked in keywords and criteria and only showed what matched exactly
Not only have they not improved the search function, I swear they’ve made it worse over the last few years.
Searched up Plymouth Volare a couple nights ago on FM.
Page was filled with fucking guitars. Why
Lol, gadamn it Skeeter.
It’s completely random. I wouldn’t even call it a search function at all, it’s more of a roulette where you get to suggest a theme.
That is a really good way to think of it!
As an H0 collector, I am interested in your setup.
Unless you are near Madison, WI, I assure you, you aren’t. Shipping this would be a nightmare.
“Shipping this would be a nightmare.”
Why? Clearly you have rail infrastructure, tiny as it is.
If this isn’t COTD I don’t know what is. Btw the term for this phenomenon is “Eternal September”. It’s from the old Usenet days
Is this car still available? Can you transport it to Seattle for me? Do you accept broken Austin Rover Group parts in trade?
Regarding those Austin Rover Group parts, would you be willing to trade them for a slightly used hamster? And could you deliver them to Oklahoma?
FBmp is such a shitshow for sellers. I picked up a really nice 8-foot tall oak bookcase last night for $180 and was thanked profusely by the seller for basically being a halfway decent human being and showing up when I said I would. His stories resembled the experience here to an alarming degree.
It’s bad, someone gave me a 1-star review on FBM because the “Free curb pickup first come first served” chair I left out wasn’t there 30 hours after the listing went up.
never have I ever posted something I was going to just leave on the curb, I just leave it and it’s gone by the next time I notice to look. lol
We moved house two and a half months ago I have a whole lot of stuff in the garage I need to get rid of. Probably for free. I can’t bring myself to list it on fbmp because I can’t deal with the people. I don’t have the brain space to deal with the mouth breathers. I look like a hoarder, but I just can’t cope with the morons!
Is there a Freecycle where you are?
https://www.freecycle.org/
People picking up stuff for free can also be remarkably annoying. Between methed-out scrapers showing up two days late for a couple of busted window AC units to the dude who spent well over an hour trying to evaluate whether or not the Oldsmobile I was giving away for free was a “good deal”, I have developed quite the bemused detachment for the folks I interact with via cheap or free things advertised on the internet.
“I have developed quite the bemused detachment for the folks I interact with via cheap or free things advertised on the internet.”
Clearly you’ve never interacted with me even though you sing my siren’s call.
SAN DIMAS HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL RULES!
I will never associate San Dimas with anything else.
I refuse to believe it is actually a real place and not a fictional location in a movie.
Until a few years ago, I genuinely thought it was just a vaguely L.A. suburb-sounding fictional place. Someone I know went to a waterpark there, said it was in San Dimas, and I responded with “yeah right, and San Dimas High School Football Rules! right?” and he was like, “you know San Dimas is a real place?”
I did not.
Ah, yes. Waterloo. Home of the most excellent water slides. That short French dude running around in pajamas is a real asshole, though.
I associate San Dimas with fresh strawberry donuts from back in the day, though it looks like technically the establishment is in Glendora. And has changed names, but still does fresh fruit donuts!
https://www.thedonutmanca.com/
*Waterloop*
No, I’m pretty sure it’s Waterloo. Napoleon? Battle of Waterloo? Yadda yadda…
As in “Selling a Nissan Leaf was David Tracy’s Waterloo”.
“After learning that Deacon has abandoned Napoleon at a bowling alley, Bill and Ted find him having fun at Waterloops, a local water park”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_%26_Ted's_Excellent_Adventure
Waterloops makes a lot more sense.
I’m not going to die on this hill, but I’ve seen that movie quite possibly a literal billion times and never once did I hear a “ps” pronounced at the end of that name.
“Waterloo” is directly associated with Napoleon, a featured character in that scene, so it makes perfect sense to me.
If that doesn’t help, here’s a quote from the screenwriter that confirms it.
https://www.sbsun.com/2010/08/07/this-bill-and-ted-fact-isnt-bogus/
I think Wiki is wrong in this case.
In SoCal, these two things are not mutually exclusive.
I can’t say I understand this reference…
Bill & Ted’s Excellent Adventure.
I would expect nothing less. That is 100% in character.
It’s in my opinion, the best that cheesy 80s slacker comedy has to offer. It’s simply a great time.
Was my go-to “sick day” movie as a kid.
Wayne’s World would like to have a Cantonese word with you.
That movie has an excellent Scooby Doo ending.
Excellent!
I hear strange things are afoot at the Circle K
Bogus!
I hear Ghengis Khan totally ravaged Oshman’s Sporting Goods in that town.
There’s even some existing security footage of the incident.
Beat me to it.
There is a really nice, family-owned picture framing place in San Dimas. No joke. Linco Custom Picture Frames & Mat Designs (lincopictureframing.com)
Literally came here for this. Guess I’ll just go play Atari…
This might be a dumb question, but Google says a new battery (the small one) costs $3500 or so. Would it have been easier to just replace the battery pack and sell a fully functional car for $5k?
I doubt it.
Maybe not, but more fun and way more interesting. I get it though: you don’t have time for interesting projects like that any more.
Ouch, nice burn!
I agree that a DIY project would be more interesting than 10000 words about FB Marketplace, a true, antisocial media outlet.
Sounds like a lot of effort and risk to go through just to break even.
That is way too practical for one of David’s jihads. It would have to be more like “I drove to Mississippi to get a free battery for my Leaf that gave me 10% more range and it took me 700 hours to do the swap”.
Agreed.
From one writer to another, kudos to you, David, for making through the section about Richard’s experience with more than one Nissan Leaf without having to figure out exactly how you should pluralize “Nissan Leaf.”
I’m overthinking it now, but Nissan had to have had a style guide. It it Leafs and Leaves?! Or is it Nissans Leaf? Or Nissan Leaf Bundles?
This is why I hated my journalism classes in college.
My former optometrist had a lot of fun pointing out that Ford mandated multiples of the Focus be called Focuses rather than Foci. He really was in the right profession.
The rule for names ending in “y” is to add an “s”, not a “ies”, so it would be a Whole Foods parking lot full of Subaru Legacys, not Legacies. Taking that, I would think “Leaf” as a name would be “Leafs”.
Yes, as in the Toronto Maple Leafs.
(Booo)
Young Biff:
Why don’t you make like a tree and get out of here?
Old Biff:
It’s *leave*, you idiot! “Make like a tree, and leave.” You sound like a damn fool when you say it wrong.
Raise your hand if you silently finished the cropped-off part of the flyer with “I know what I got.”
I need a time machine to go back to the day some smug bastard bought this thing new….
Young Biff:
Why don’t you make like a tree and get out of here?
Old Biff:
It’s *leave*, you idiot! “Make like a tree, and leave.” You sound like a damn fool when you say it wrong.
I mean, this seems like normality for selling cars on Marketplace
Yeah other than the difficulty in driving to meet the guy, this is the story of every <$2500 shitbox classified ad.
After having helped sell two broken but repairable cars for friends for ~1800 and then 1k, this is absolutely the average experience. First car was actually to a decent guy who made the process easy, but it was a week or two of jokers until he came along. The 1k car was a PITA beginning to end, a “done deal” that was abandoned 2 days later, tons of $400 offers (listed for 1500) and the guy who did buy it and I had a strong language barrier. Thank goodness for google translate, but it was done, and in both cases my friends got significantly above scrap value which was all they really cared.
Congrats on selling the Leaf. It’s too late now, but I bet you could’ve gotten a tow dolly from uhaul for under a hundred bucks.
I need something to tow it with; my J10 can handle a Willys, but DEFINITELY not a Leaf.
What about the Aztek?
Hmm. I doubt it.
Supposedly an Aztec can tow 3500 lb, and a 1st gen Leaf weighs something like 3350. So with the dolly it would be at or just above the limit I suspect.
But probably doable over short distances like this.
[transmission rebuild incoming]
Surely that 4T65E was validated towing 3500 lb up Davis Dam
When new many moons ago. While it likely could still hopefully do 3k pounds, I’m always suspect of aging GM automatics robustness, and given the Azteks reputation, I strongly doubt it’s had regular fluid changes over its lifespan.
On a fairly flat stretch of freeway at 6 AM on a Sunday I really wouldn’t be too concerned.
No traffic, no hills, not 110 degrees outside, no stopping/starting, no hard takeoffs.
Fair enough, he did mention the uphill grade made the range decrease enough to be an issue, which would be my biggest concern, but at least the roads would be clear enough to only be a hazard to himself.
The other thing is his pictured route took the Leaf’s limitations into account (city streets only, shortest distance over any other consideration).
With a suspect tow vehicle, you could optimize for flat, straight highway driving.
Ahh yep, hadn’t considered that, likely very true. I’m just a novice when it comes to towing, mostly around town dual axle trailer with an aging, coolant leak prone 3500 express van, so I tend to err on the side of caution.
I will admit to not fully understanding towing parameters, but half of the car is being supported by the ground. I understand David wants to be respectful of the Aztek, but it was purchased as a joke/incentive/punishment for a membership drive.
A. It would’ve been 100% fine dragging a Leaf 100 miles
B. Literally nobody would care if it died on the way anyway
I’m not convinced it would have been fine; the transmission is already shifting poorly.
I would have cared!
(Honestly, the bigger issue is that it doesn’t have a hitch).
What ever happened with that “daily drive the Aztek for a month and live in it for a week” promise?
It’s coming up SOON. Very soon. (I’m flying to Detroit this weekend, so I can’t start my camping thing until I get a nice solid week here when I return).
Aztek definitely predates J2807 by a few years. It’s near the tail end of the “tow capacity is defined by whatever Marketing can claim with a straight face” years, but it’s still in them.
Drag-tow it and it will be all charged up when you get there.
OK, now say goodbye to one of the i3s. You’re on the right track. I would get rid of the old willys and just keep your overlanding project(s).
Then concentrate on Elise and the Website biz.
YJ over CJ3B?
YJ > CJ3B.
Then worry about the Nash for old car vibes.
Nash is going to a reader! (Once I get it running)
Yep, you’ll have a much more fun with the overlanding stuff that that old willys. Plus you have the wrangler that can take it’s place and be more reliable.
Simplify
The downside is the YJ won’t fit in my garage, while the CJ will. So I can live near my CJ, while the YJ will always be between 20 minutes and an hour away (depending on traffic).
Even after getting rid of one of the i3s?
I mean you’re not going to DD the willys or the YJ anyway. They’ll just be for romps in the desert right?
I mean, I could street-park the YJ, but I’d need to remember to move it for street sweeping. My garage will fit one i3 and the CJ, but not one i3 and the YJ.
How high is the garage ceiling? If it’s high enough, get one of those home lifts so you can park one under the other. Better yet, get two – one for each existing tandem parking space – so you can keep the other i3 and both the YJ and the CJ, or whatever other alphabet pairs you’d like to provide a foster home. It will also make it easier to work on what you’ve got.
Can I just say how grateful I am to live in a place where you can interchangeably refer to time or distance to location, and they remain interchangeable except in bizarre circumstances. None of the 10 miles could mean 20 minutes or 60 minutes. Thats just painful.
Feel that.
Comes with the territory of living in a place where lots of people want to live (and drive their cars) versus a place where a fewer people want to live.
DT needs to learn about low-traffic times. 2AM, for starters. Yes, he should meet a total stranger from Hesperia at 3AM in San Dimas. Would have been a great article about it, assuming he lives, but at least he’d get there in time.
Personally, I would 100% rather have a YJ than a CJ3B.
I’m glad to hear you were finally able to offload it!
I’m failing to see exactly how LA is any different from Michigan in this scenario…
I really should have said: “When I got to LA I did what I do.”
To be honest, that’s basically how I read it. Your questionable exploits are what we’ve come to love and expect!
COTD
LA has less rust and fewer city code violations (that we know of)
It’s easy to dodge code violations for broken vehicles when you can just put vehicles in a dealer storage lot!
This is a key advantage LA David has over Michigan David…
That and the rust accumulation comes to a near halt compared to Michigan.
At one point I had cars stored in two different garages in my parent’s neighborhood, even though I lived in another town. Divorcees or widows with with extra garage space. When I moved out of state I finally cleaned up my act, somewhat. Kinda like David…
I have a friend who was (who are we kidding, is) much like David only with motorcycles, both street and dirt. At one point, there were 7 motorcycles stored in his house; this is not including the garage or detached shop. One time a bike was delivered in the evening, we were at work the next day and I went to check-out the bike after work only to find it already digested by the garage (I noticed a new exhaust hanging on the wall, and a fuel tank on the work bench). A girl a different buddy was dating once asked how many motorcycles he had and he literally didn’t know… In addition to the house, the garage, and shop he actually began annexing neighbors’ garage space.
He retired and moved to Texas to build a barndominium, I’m sure his collection hasn’t decreased in size…
Haha, that’s hilarious! I guess I should finish my story and mention I ended buying an old defunct dairy farm from a relative and now have several large barns for my shop and car/junk storage. I, too, am unsure exactly how many vehicles I have at times. I only know how many I have on the road.
When someone asks how many cars you have, and you have to make them define “what constitutes a car”? If I have a frame from X car, and a body from Y car awkwardly stacked on it, does that count as 1 or 2?
I have two international truck cabs on one frame. Is that one or two? I have a custom datsun quad cab stacked on a miata which was cut down to a death cart by the previous owner. Is that one or two?
Its a very difficult question to answer if you are doing things correctly 😀
Ha, I know what you mean. I don’t count parts cars or anything that has no chance of ever running. I have a 50s vintage pavement roller with a 2 cyl Wisconsin air cooled engine. I don’t count that though I would like to get it running to flatten stuff.
Wow, that’s awesome and I’m jealous. You really ARE living the dream!
A great tan and a dazzling smile.