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Some Geniuses Are Swapping 200-Mile Battery Packs Into BMW i3s, Creating A Potential ‘Forever Car’

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BMW sold over 250,000 i3s between 2013 and 2022, and with those cars having carbon fiber bodies and aluminum frames that don’t rust; plastic and carbon fiber panels that don’t dent; and interiors that hold up to abuse, there are naturally many i3s still on the road, looking good. The issue is that many of these cars (especially pre-2017s) have battery packs that have degraded to the point where they offer only 50 or fewer miles of EV range; on top of that, even i3s with perfect battery packs don’t really go that far on a charge. For years, i3 owners have dreamed of a replacement battery pack that could give their otherwise-in-excellent-shape i3s a new lease on life, and rumors seem to be swirling now of a potential new option out of China. I just spoke with a man who’s swapping new batteries into i3s in Los Angeles, and he tells me: This is a gamechanger.

The BMW i3 began life for the 2014 model-year with a 22kWh battery pack, then it received an upgrade to 33.2 kWh in 2017, and then things jumped to 42.2 kWh in 2019. Per CNET, BMW’s CEO said the company was planning another battery upgrade before the company ultimately decided to pull the plug on the science experiment-car in 2021 (or 2022 in non-U.S. markets). So if you want the highest-range i3, 42.2 kWh and about 150 miles of range has been your only choice.

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Recently, though, there has been some whispering that the aftermarket might offer a battery upgrade for the i3. That whispering comes out of China, with numerous sales representatives posting photos and videos of BMW i3s ostensibly receiving battery upgrades. Here’s a video from “CVC” showing a full pack swap:

Here are some photos from that same sales rep showing the alleged 49 kWh pack:

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I3 Pack 2
Image: Ruby Cheng/CVC (Facebook)
I3 Pack1
Image: Ruby Cheng/CVC (Facebook)
If you hop onto Alibaba, you’ll find a Samsung-based replacement BMW i3 battery pack for sale for $6,500 a pop:

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Screenshot: Alibaba

Clicking on “Jinchua New Energy” shows that this Alibaba listing is from the same company, CVC, which has sold Leaf battery packs for a while.

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Screenshot: Alibaba

I’ve also seen replacement i3 battery packs advertised by a different company. Much of the information online comes from someone by the name of “Echi”:

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Screenshot: Eichi/MTG (Facebook)
If you look at the battery pack in the post above you’ll see a big “MTG” sticker. This company has been advertising new BMW i3 battery upgrades on YouTube:

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MTG’s website shows 54 kWh battery packs made up of prismatic CATL cells:

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Screenshot: MTG

Some folks on Reddit say they were quoted $6500 for the pack, which is about the same as the CVC price. But are these companies legit? Has anyone in the U.S. done a swap? Well, the answer appears to be: Yes.

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Screenshot: Reddit

I recently stumbled upon the thread above on Reddit; the OP states that they bought a pack from China (presumably from CVC since they’re Samsung cells), and they say the work was done by a company called Maxxpower, out of LA. Here’s Maxxpower’s rather basic website: Screen Shot 2025 03 12 At 1.37.40 Pm

I called up Michael Boomer, who runs Maxxpower, and he told me that he actually got started with i3s after reading my articles about my beloved i3! He also says he actually saw me a few months ago in LA driving my Galvanic Gold 2021. Small world!

“The day I opened this shop you were next door at earl’s place getting hoses made,” he told me, hilariously. “The reason why this is partially your fault is I wasn’t even considering an i3 until you [wrote your story]….it snowballed. Several months later I’m at a shop where I’m installing batteries. Mainly focusing on that and taking the old batteries to be used in different capacities.”

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So that’s how this is going to work. Boomer will take folks’ old batteries, replace them with new Samsung batteries from China, and charge folks $7,200. That’s an absolute steal given the alleged performance improvements.

After telling me that the weight increase of the upgraded batteries seems largely insignificant and that his own personal 2015 i3 rides fine after the swap, Boomer said:  “It’s so cool to just be able to turn on the AC and not even look and worry and plan…it’s a totally different car now. You approach it completely different with that kind of range.”

“I can tell you what I’ve seen — real world Los Angeles driving — AC just kinda running in the background on Eco Pro, I’m getting, depending on how I drive, that can be anywhere from high 160s to 200 miles.”

For reference, my 42.2 kWh battery pack in my 2019 i3S yields about 140-160 miles of EV range.

“It’s pretty drop in,” Boom told me of the installation process, “although I wouldn’t recommend the average Joe try to do this in their driveway. The AC is tricky,” he said, referring to the oil in the refrigerant and the recovery/fill process. Installing a 650 pound battery isn’t something you can do with floor jacks, though Boomer tells me he just uses a QuickJack.

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To get an idea of what’s actually being replaced, you can look at the video above to see the original BMW i3’s battery pack. It’s basically a bunch of VHS-sized prismatic cells. These boxes go into eight modules that make up the battery pack.

Here you can see the 12 cells that make up each module:

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Image: Bimmerfest (YouTube)

And here’s what the module looks like once it’s been fully assembled with a plastic cover:

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Image: BlackGoldAutoParts (eBay)

The cells are precisely glued together and configured in such a way that allows for both optimal cooling as well as room to expand and contract. Needless to say, Boomer isn’t swapping each and every one and gluing them all into place. No, instead, he’s getting entire modules from his supplier in China. “They drop right in over the same bolts,” he told me over the phone.

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The “VHS”-looking cells are the same size, but they’re more dense that the original ones from BMW, hence the 49 kWh. As I mentioned before, BMW itself went from 22 kwH to 33.2 in 2017 to 42.2 in 2019, all in the same battery pack, with another upgrade in the plans before the car was killed off. It’s great to see the aftermarket deliver the power density upgrade that BMW promised.

I3 Swap
A look at Michael Boomer’s beautiful 2015 BMW i3 “Panda,” with Terra Dark Truffle brown leather interior. This now has a 49 kWh battery pack in it, per Boomer.

Of course, the swap isn’t going 100% perfectly. Boomer told me that “the one thing that has been the hangup for us is the programming of the SME,” referring to the battery management controller. “We have to manipulate it a little bit to make it think that [the battery] can hold more,” he said. The result, right now, is that the guess-o-meter range-estimator is struggling to deal with the new, bigger pack. “That’s one of the things that i think people will absolutely screw up if they try to do this in their driveway,” Boomer told me, though he noted that at least one of the Chinese battery suppliers offers an SME (he doesn’t know how well it works).

Michael Boomer said he has friends in China who are able to look at products to give him an idea of their quality. “I’ve been doing business in China for years; I used to own a synthesizer shop; I used to build custom parts for vintage synthesizers,” he told me, saying he’s owned over 40 cars, though this is his first foray into automobile modification (though apparently his electronics known-how in music translates quite well).  One of his goals, he told me, is to “make EVs more accessible to people,” going on to say “and what everyone needs from it is range.” Boomer says he’s starting by offering Samsung cells instead of CATL or Panasonic, since Samsung’s brand in the U.S. is strongest.

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There have been some concerns on forums about the replacement modules missing a cross-brace. “There’s a teeny cross-brace between the two rows of batteries… I think that’s way overblown,” Boomer told me.  “I’ve actually measured the deflection from one side to the other; there’s nothing,” he said, though he is 3-D printing some parts to give people peace of mind:  “It’s easy enough to fix,” he told me over the phone. As for other concerns about the quality of the packs, Boomer says he’s offering a one year parts-and-labor warranty.

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[Update (03/13/2025 10:15 PM ET): I was recently emailed the link to discussions about that cross-brace. The German forum goingelectric.de includes lots of concern about the safety of these Chinese batteries, not just because of lack of bracing but because of alleged lack of thermal sensors. See the full thread here. -DT]

[Update (03/14/2025 11:30 PM ET): I received an email from a gentleman from Hungary who says he works on BMW i3s regularly and does battery swaps on them. He says he knows somebody who bought one of the Chinese batteries mentioned in this story, and that it did not function properly. So, again, it’s worth reiterating that there are lots of questions that remain unanswered, and that car batteries can be dangerous, so it’s worth approaching such products with caution. -DT]

Obviously, there are still many questions that need to be asked, and given how expensive and dangerous batteries can be, it’s going to be a while before people are comfortable forking over thousands of dollars for more range. But I’m excited to see where this goes. Because the BMW i3, with its carbon fiber body, aluminum frame, plastic body panels, and durable interior, makes for a fantastic, modular “forever car” that you could just keep until the end of time, upgrading it along the way. At least, that’s what I hope to do with my Goldie you see above.

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10basetom
10basetom
29 days ago

What’s riskier than paying $6-8k on Alibaba? The risk of burning down your house.

Scott
Scott
30 days ago

Very glad to hear this too, and I’m actually a bit surprised that it didn’t come up a little sooner. I’ve already forwarded the article to the i3 owners I know (I helped all but one of them buy their i3s).

I still LOVE the i3 because it’s so weird and good (at being a city car, IMO) and futuristic and cute in an almost Asiatic cyberpunk sort of way (really, it always strikes me as seeming more in line with what a Japanese mfgr would have tried, rather than a German one, but that’s probably just my own cultural preconceptions in action).

Speaking of which, I’ve had an oddly powerful hankering to own a Mazda MX30 recently. I’ve seen only a few on the street (where it’s very easily mistaken for it’s ICE cousin, the CX30) but there are several for sale on the used market in CA. The 100-mile range isn’t an issue for me (it’s enough for a city car) and I really like all recent generations of the Mazda 3 on which it (and the CX30) are based, and it’s got all of the usual Mazda qualities (nice interior, quality switchgear, decent driving dynamics, pleasantly modern(e) styling…) in an EV package.

Of course, they only sold about 600 of them over only a few years in California, so the i3 seems like a Nissan Altima by comparison (in terms of how often you see them). And it’s safe to say that there will never be a third-party replacement battery for the MX30 as a result.

You can get them now starting in the mid teen$, which is a solid $5-8K MORE than an i3 (which will have more miles on it) so it’s still a bit too pricey (for me) in terms of a ‘fu¢k-it money’ sort of impulse purchase. As soon as they’re down to about $10K I’ll get a bit more serious about shopping for one… I’d love to bring one to an Autopian get together in SoCal someday. 🙂

Here’s the basic wiki on the MX30 in case anyone wants a brief refresher: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_MX-30 (the US only got the EV version… the mild and plug-in hybrids were available in other markets).

Last edited 30 days ago by Scott
0l0id
0l0id
1 month ago

This is great news. And I will eagerly await any further developments on this subject. I generally consider my i3 to be one of the best purchases I’ve made and would like to keep it as close to forever as possible. I live in LA just north of Chinatown, and it’s basically our family car for any trip that is closer than family in the OC (we have a TDI for anything further than that). This car is amazing – it babies exceptionally well – provided your stroller folds small enough, which ours does. It can haul 4 adults in reasonable comfort, and turn around in 2.5 lanes thanks to the wheel wells being so deep and the tires so narrow. It accelerates spectacularly onto the Arroyo Seco, and can be parked in tight spots. By all metrics this is the absolute ideal 21st century city car.

So I’m excited something is being done about replacement batteries in these. Or at least that someone is trying. My hope is that our daughter will learn to drive in it one day 18 years from now. Coincidentally whatever second car we have will always be stick shift for this very purpose. At my wife’s insistence, and much to my own delight.

Zdenek Havrla
Zdenek Havrla
1 month ago

The manufacturer supplies the battery with a false certificate. https://www.goingelectric.de/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2279789#p2279789

Zdenek Havrla
Zdenek Havrla
1 month ago

It’s a scam, in Hungary they were curious and bought a battery, it cost 7500 euros, the battery is not functional, the contact is welded incorrectly, there is no integrated rigidity of the battery.     https://www.goingelectric.de/forum/viewtopic.php?f=71&t=94059

Zdenek Havrla
Zdenek Havrla
1 month ago

I ask the author of the article to remove this advertisement for this dangerous Chinese product.

https://www.goingelectric.de/forum/viewtopic.php?f=71&t=94059

Zdenek Havrla
Zdenek Havrla
1 month ago

It’s a scam, in Hungary they were curious and bought a battery, it cost 7500 euros, the battery is not functional, the contact is welded incorrectly, there is no integrated rigidity of the battery. https://www.goingelectric.de/forum/viewtopic.php?f=71&t=94059

Sam Morse
Sam Morse
1 month ago

“I just want a Toyota Forerunner that runs on dreams and starlight.”

– Maria Bamford

from her ” Sure, I’ll join your cult! ” bit
Best version is on YouTube – under search for sailor moon Bamford

Hangover Grenade
Hangover Grenade
1 month ago

I love this in concept… but the idea of paying $6500 to Alibaba seems, based on the other stuff I’ve bought from them, extremely risky.

R Z
R Z
1 month ago

I remember test driving an i3 and really loving it and I could lease one of these for like $300 something a month including taxes; I honestly I should have done it. These days I spend more a month on video games. I ended up buying a BMW with a V8 so it’s not like I ended up with bad car, just the i3 has always been electric car I actually liked and enjoyed trying.

Who Knows
Who Knows
1 month ago

So the Chinese aftermarket stepped in to help out German/BMW car owners in the USA to upgrade their vehicles to almost match a discontinued Chevy that is generally viewed as a bit basic? Kind of funny.

That said, this is really nice that it is available, and not very expensive, and hopefully indicates more availability of this sort of thing in the future for all sorts of vehicles and use cases.

Tyler Durden
Tyler Durden
1 month ago
Reply to  Who Knows

The positive way to see this is that these cars can now stay on the road and live a more useful life, squeezing more use from all the resources that made them in the first place. I agree that this is a good sign that more aftermarket solutions will appear to improve electric cars. That has been the direction of aftermarket parts sellers since the dawn of the automobile.

Bassracerx
Bassracerx
1 month ago
Reply to  Tyler Durden

for 7k in parts then you add labor… still cheaper than the OEM batteries but not really practical when you can still buy a whole car for less money. Buying an EV is just buying future E waste. Having batteries fail in just over 10 years is not a good sign.

Tyler Durden
Tyler Durden
25 days ago
Reply to  Bassracerx

We live in a disposable society and most people don’t look far enough in the future to worry about their actions today.

Bleeder
Bleeder
1 month ago
Reply to  David Tracy

You mention in the article that Mr. Boomer is using the old, replaced batteries in “different capacities”. Did he elaborate about these secondary use cases? House batteries or something?

Mike Brooks
Mike Brooks
30 days ago
Reply to  David Tracy

I love the basic idea of this, and I’m also one of the many people who went from an i3 to a Bolt. However, I believe it was a Motor Trend staffer who compared the 2 and said the Bolt was twice the car for half the price. I loved my i3, but that writer wasn’t wrong. While CFRP and aluminum could last a long time, the rest of an i3 is not up to the task, including the REX. I had my Bolt 4 years, and never had 1 issue or repair needed. My i3 was not the same story, however, from the restraint wiring harness randomly failing (apparently not uncommon and a very pricey and involved fix), little things like the charge door breaking, and REX sensors going out. Also there’s the whole potential looming ac compressor failure. The Bolt is quicker, will outcorner the i3, is better suspended, and has vastly superior build quality. The i3 has nicer seats and gets more looks. I also road-tripped both. I would much rather make 1 charging stop with the Bolt than a bunch of gas stops in the i3 to add 2 gallons or so at a time.

Bizness Comma Nunya
Bizness Comma Nunya
1 month ago

Geniuses? From my experience, this seems like a great way to light your car, garage, house, and/or self on fire.

Max Power
Max Power
1 month ago

I’m a little offended that they stole my name…

PJ
PJ
1 month ago
Reply to  Max Power

Max Power, he’s the man whose name you’d love to touch
But you mustn’t touch, his name sounds good in your ear
But when you say it, you mustn’t fear
‘Cause his name can be said by anyone.

Adrian Clarke
Editor
Adrian Clarke
1 month ago
Reply to  PJ

There’s the right way, the wrong way, and the Max Power way.

PJ
PJ
1 month ago
Reply to  Adrian Clarke

Isn’t that the wrong way?

Yeah, but faster.

Rod Millington
Rod Millington
1 month ago
Reply to  PJ

Nobody snuggles with Max Power, Marge. You strap yourself in and feel the G’s!

Phuzz
Phuzz
30 days ago
Reply to  PJ

Slightly faster, but slammed on the ground with a badly fitting fibreglass bodykit and underglow.
Erm, are we talking about the same Max Power?

Along with Martin, Dutch Gunderson, Lana and Sally Decker
Along with Martin, Dutch Gunderson, Lana and Sally Decker
1 month ago

I love this. I don’t currently own an EV, but I love the idea of this. This is basically hot rodding in the 21st century; making the most of what is available to you, and if the OEM can’t or won’t, the aftermarket will.

EVDesigner
EVDesigner
1 month ago

Is there any info on whether the new battery increases charging speed? I’m not sure if the OEM inverter is what limits rapid charger speed or if its the battery itself.

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
1 month ago

And here I thought this was going to be an ad for JouleShark

Zeppelopod
Zeppelopod
1 month ago
Reply to  Cheap Bastard

take yer damn smiley face

Ignatius J. Reilly
Ignatius J. Reilly
1 month ago

Very interesting. But no BWM made in this millennium is a forever car. Most are lucky if they are a “most of this decade” car.

Parsko
Parsko
1 month ago

Literally the only thing preventing me from keeping my unicorn BMW forever is the drivetrain. The rest of the car is in amazing shape.

Mrbrown89
Mrbrown89
1 month ago

I hope someone from China is working on Gen 2 Chevy Volt batteries soon, cars are approaching +8 years and they are more common in the US compared to an i3.

I see greentec offer options with “new” modules but it would be amazing if they could make the battery denser.

Dinklesmith
Dinklesmith
1 month ago
Reply to  Mrbrown89

The Volts are hard enough to get BECMs, EGR valves/coolers or strut towers let alone batteries. GM really shafted owners

Mrbrown89
Mrbrown89
1 month ago
Reply to  Dinklesmith

I got the BECM and Shit to Park issue under warranty but the EGR I just have the check engine light on since I bypassed it. Now I am getting around 34MPG instead of 38-40. GM killed the electric car twice lol

Hoser68
Hoser68
1 month ago
Reply to  Mrbrown89

I’m hoping the warranty included a new driver’s seat with the second issue.

Mrbrown89
Mrbrown89
1 month ago
Reply to  Hoser68

Daylight savings… need more coffee lol

Hoser68
Hoser68
1 month ago
Reply to  Mrbrown89

It’s ok. Done the same thing. Both on the keyboard and behind the wheel.

Sam Morse
Sam Morse
1 month ago
Reply to  Mrbrown89

I wonder how many understand Benjamin Franklin was mocking supporters of shifting clocks?

Joe Average
Joe Average
1 month ago
Reply to  Dinklesmith

That’s my concern about buying Bots, Equinox or the Blazer EVs – decade plus ownership.

Last edited 1 month ago by Joe Average
Dinklesmith
Dinklesmith
1 month ago
Reply to  Joe Average

FWIW I also own a 2017 Bolt that was the same year as the Volt I traded in. There were enough Bolts built that GM has continued product support. There will also be aftermarket battery support for those (There already is for the Volt despite being less common). I imagine Ultium cars will have product support on par with the gas cars just because they built so many of them. 2nd gen Volts never sold well

Swedish Jeep
Swedish Jeep
1 month ago
Reply to  Mrbrown89

I loved my Gen1 and currently my Gen 2, I honestly wouldn’t change anything. I mean my 2018 gets consistently 45-50 on battery and I only fill up gas once every couple of months. Could you imagine a new density battery pack with 100+ miles and still the engine.

I think what you’d have is similar to the new much derided Ram Charger. A vehicle that literally can check every box….

Fuzzyweis
Fuzzyweis
1 month ago

Or for that price just buy a used Chevy Bolt with a 3 year old battery and 260 miles of range and normal tires to replace, but you do you.

TheDrunkenWrench
TheDrunkenWrench
1 month ago
Reply to  Fuzzyweis

The bolt doesn’t have a Range Extender, though.

Fuzzyweis
Fuzzyweis
1 month ago

Throw a honda generator in the trunk for another $500 bucks, can use it for camping too.

TheDrunkenWrench
TheDrunkenWrench
1 month ago
Reply to  Fuzzyweis

Can’t keep driving, still need to stop to charge. Different use cases.

Fuzzyweis
Fuzzyweis
1 month ago

True, but the i3 isn’t designed for road trips either, so they’re kind of similar use cases.

Thomas Johnston
Thomas Johnston
1 month ago
Reply to  David Tracy

I agree 100%! I would be willing to make an out-of-town trip in my 2017 i3 Rex (with an emergency gas can), even out here in the desert SW, where charging stations aren’t exactly abundant.

Fuzzyweis
Fuzzyweis
1 month ago
Reply to  David Tracy

I feel like the REx is just a bit too underpowered for long road tripping with it. In a pinch or peace of mind for range anxiety sure, but going cross country, not really it’s intended purpose.

Who Knows
Who Knows
1 month ago

Naw, skip the range extender generator, and just stop to charge the Bolt, even though it takes a while. For camping, the generator in the trunk would just get in the way of folding the interior flat and having a nice twin mattress to sleep on inside the car (quite nice when on a one person trip), or the normal camping gear for the family.

Sam Morse
Sam Morse
1 month ago
Reply to  Fuzzyweis

Where are you getting a Honda for that?
My Honda EU was double that.

Parsko
Parsko
1 month ago
Reply to  Fuzzyweis

Agreed 100%. But, I also fully agree and support keeping these cars on the road as long as possible. I have been thinking about learning to do this on the Bolt, so when I eventually need to do it, I just do it myself. That, and I can do it for others, presumably. I still have 55k left on my warranty, so I’m good (for another 2-3 years).

3laine
3laine
1 month ago
Reply to  Fuzzyweis

The Autopian wouldn’t exist if everyone just wanted the most basic, most practical vehicle available for a particular price instead of something interesting or unique.

Fuzzyweis
Fuzzyweis
1 month ago
Reply to  3laine

True, as I said you do you, I like to think my Bolt is interesting and fairly unique. I certainly don’t see as many of them in the area as like Rav4s or what not.

3laine
3laine
1 month ago
Reply to  Fuzzyweis

Agreed. Bolt is interesting and unique compared to many vehicles. And it would be an excellent and practical choice for a ton of people. But the i3 is easily one of the most unique vehicles of the last decade, maybe #1.

Weston
Weston
1 month ago

If it’s anything like the Chinese replacement battery I put in my iPhone, it will work great in the beginning but degrade about twice as fast as the original.

Jakob Johansen
Jakob Johansen
1 month ago
Reply to  Weston

Pretty sure the original battery in your Iphone, as the rest of the phone, is made in China.

Balloondoggle
Balloondoggle
1 month ago

The Leaf would be a good candidate for this too. Good car hobbled by passive cooling and ineffective BMS.

Neo
Neo
1 month ago

This is very cool, and something I’d be in. I had already heard of replacement batteries for a Prius 2 I inherited, but the car handled so comically poorly, I unloaded it quickly.

I do need a runabout, and have been looking at old Leafs. But i don’t like their look, and when I drove a colleague’s…. I didn’t like it. At some point I was into i3, and did enough research to figure out 2017-18 was the sweet value spot, but ended up getting something else. I need about 100 miles of range (really 50, but securely 50, even in the dead of winter).

My problem is the dog with very tall legs. He does not fit into normal car seats – it’s very awkward for him. So we only have wagons/hatchbacks with rear seats down so he can lounge. Between him and a toddler, I do have one way to make these small cars work, but I am not sure what’s involved.

I would unbolt the front passenger seat to create space for him. Toddler in rear carseat, wife behind driver in a pinch (like go to the park or grocery store or something, nothing more than three miles). But I know airbags and whatnots can be a problem. Has anyone ever done something like this?

Otherwise, a C-Max or a Bolt will work.

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
1 month ago
Reply to  Neo

Spark EV?

Neo
Neo
1 month ago
Reply to  Cheap Bastard

Honeslty, I did not know they existed! But after posting, ran a search on craigslist, and what do you know, there was one in my area! There is an insane amount of Teslas for sale though. Ouch.

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
1 month ago
Reply to  Neo

The Spark EV got some very favorable reviews back in the day:

“The small block of the electric segment”

“Bar stool on wheels”

~fixes the Gas Spark~ (paraphrasing here)

https://www.motortrend.com/reviews/2014-chevrolet-spark-ev-2lt-first-test/

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a15114836/2014-chevrolet-spark-ev-first-drive-review/

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/reviews/2014-chevrolet-spark-ev-review/

https://www.motorbiscuit.com/2014-chevy-spark-ev-electric-car-sleeper/

I usually see them on my local CL going for $5-$7 with maybe 40k-80k on the clock.

“There is an insane amount of Teslas for sale though. Ouch.”

OUCH indeed!!:

https://victoria.craigslist.org/cto/d/central-saanich-free-tesla-please-come/7834363040.html

Last edited 1 month ago by Cheap Bastard
Neo
Neo
30 days ago
Reply to  Cheap Bastard

Everything about it sounds PERFECT. Except….. the range. I’d buy it at 3-4k, but not more. Around town… perfect. But I need to be able to go to the coffeeshop in the next town over (20 miles), or a winery. 82 from brand new in the dead of winter is too little. I think I want 125 from brand new.

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
30 days ago
Reply to  Neo

Fair enough. Perhaps future battery tech will enable longer range and lifespan upgrades.

Till then maybe you can score that free Tesla.

Last edited 30 days ago by Cheap Bastard
Neo
Neo
29 days ago
Reply to  Cheap Bastard

HAHAHAHA. Never. Ever. (And not just because it’s a sedan).

My good friend bought one, to commute to DC for his one-year stint in gov. He got the cheapest one (I think 42k?) RWD, and it has been fine on snow tires in our snow belt. It has served him faithfully over 40k miles. Keep using them is also the environmentally conscious thing to do. But he’s about to be fired, or should have already been fired, by the man child. I keep hoping someone will do a hostile takeover of the company.

Max Headbolts
Max Headbolts
1 month ago
Reply to  Neo

Back when I replaced the seats in my Scion tC with Corbeau’s I removed the airbag sensors from the OEM seats, and ziptied across the sensor to trick it into thinking there was an adult in the seat. This had the side-affect of the passenger airbag always being on, but I didn’t have kids so it wasn’t a big deal. So as long as you’re okay with the dog possibly getting an airbag to the face, this could work (I don’t know hwo the airbag sensros work in that car)
I just ziptied the sensors to the Corbeau Seat Brackets to they weren’t flopping around, I’m sure you could tuck it into the carpet or something.

Neo
Neo
1 month ago
Reply to  Max Headbolts

This would be fine with me. I was going to ask my mechanic if he could code the aibag to be always on anyway. With the dog laying on the floor, I am pretty sure airbag would miss him. Thanks for this!

Max Headbolts
Max Headbolts
1 month ago
Reply to  Neo

Good luck with it!

Sam Morse
Sam Morse
1 month ago
Reply to  Neo

I removed the passenger seat in a sports coupe for large packages.
Amazing what would fit.
It wasn’t easy to swap the seat in and out, but not brutal either.

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