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Some Geniuses Are Swapping Big Minivan Engines Into Old Hondas For Cheap Horsepower

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Name the perfect engine swap for a classic Honda coupe or hatch. “The B series!” you’ll shout, if you were born in the 80s. “No, K series is the way to go!” yells the younger crowd. But what if I told you there was another option, both more exotic and more mainstream all a the same time? Meet the J Series—the minivan engine that longs to run free.

The Honda J-series debuted in the mid-nineties. It was designed to replace the established C-series V6, most notably used in the Honda NSX and Acura Legend. The new engine was more compact by virtue of being a 60-degree V6, and unlike its predecessor, it was specifically designed for use in transverse front-wheel-drive applications. The J-series soon became the larger V6 workhorse engine of Honda’s lineup, showing up in minivans, sedans, SUVs, and even a few coupes.

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It might be installed in some of the most boring, unassuming cars on the market, but the J-series has a secret. It’s powerful, it’s torquey, and you can find one in every junkyard in the country. It wasn’t long before it drew the eyes of wrenchers on the hunt for cheap engine swaps. If you want a big, juicy V6 to drop into a hot little Honda, it’s hard to ignore the temptation of a little Vitamin J.

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The J30A1, pictured here in an Acura 3.0CL in November 1996. Back when engine bays looked like engine bays, this is where the J-series began.

Size Matters

The J-series engine first showed up in the Acura CL in 1996 as the 3.0-liter J30A1, which later landed in the Honda Accord V6 as well. Variants soon proliferated across the Honda and Acura lineups with displacements from 3.0 to 3.7 liters depending on application, along with a rare 2.5-liter version for the JDM market. The vast majority of the J-series family are single overhead cam designs, complete with the glory of Honda’s VTEC variable valve timing. The family has also got that solid Honda reputation for reliability, with many examples racking up hundreds of thousands of miles without issue.

As Honda’s mainstream V6 workhorse, the J-Series has ended up in hundreds of thousands, if not millions of cars in the past few decades. By now, tons of them have ended up off the road for one reason or another, which has created a broad population of junkyard engines rich for the mining. Their ready availability made them cheap, and their solid power output made them desirable for swaps.

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The 2002 Honda Odyssey. You spot one of these bad boys in the junkyard, you might have just found your engine.

As you might expect, though, not all J-Series engines are equal. Certain versions have become the most popular for swaps for reasons of practicality. The J32A2 is a great choice, built from 2001 to 2003 for the Acura CL-S and TL-S. In stock form, it offered 260 horsepower and 232 pound-feet of torque. Alternatively, you can go bigger, and score yourself a J35A4. It appeared in the 2002 to 2004 Honda Odyssey, and also the Honda Pilot for a time. It’s a hair down on power at 240 hp, but the bigger displacement nets you 242 pound-feet of torque.

Meanwhile, the original J30A1 is less desirable. The older engine offers just 210 hp and 200 pound-feet of torque. It might still be worth looking at if you can get one on the cheap, but the earliest versions also have the penalty of using a distributor-based ignition system rather than more modern coilpacks.

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The 1999 Honda Odyssey got the J35A1, which put out 205 hp on regular gas or 210 hp on premium.
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Get yourself the J35A4 from the 2002-2004 Odyssey, though, and you score a motor good for 240 horsepower right out of the box!

Looking at the numbers above, you’re probably realizing why these engines have a cult following. They’re cheap, you can yank one at a junkyard, and you’re getting great power and torque. Out of the box, most of the J-series engines outperform the K-series just by virtue of having two extra cylinders and plenty of displacement. Some will argue that their established power ceiling isn’t as high, and that’s perhaps fair given the prodigious power available from a turbocharged K-series, but for budget power with minimal mods, the J really delivers. In any case, you can expect to make up to 300 hp with the right naturally aspirated build, and 400 horsepower or more if you choose to pursue forced induction.

You needn’t stick to the exact revisions of engine above, either. They’re just the pick of the bunch. There’s nothing stopping you from grabbing something like a J30A4 from a 2004 Accord and enjoying the 240 horsepower it brings, for example. However, you’ll want to consult community guides on the various engine revisions to sure the specific engine you choose is suitable for what you’re trying to do. You don’t want to find out your engine has some sensor or plumbing quirk that makes it impossible to fit in your car.

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The J30A4 is not the most popular of the J-Series engines, but they’re out there in V6-equipped Accords built from 2003 to 2005 nonetheless. 242 hp and 212 pound-feet of torque are nothing to sniff at, but the weird combined head and exhaust manifold might prove troublesome for your swap.
Honda Passport Engine
The J35Y6 is found in the Honda Pilot, Ridgeline, Passport, and Odyssey. While it offers 280 hp and 260 pound feet of torque, it’s a rare choice for a swap. These newer engines have advanced features like drive-by-wire and cylinder deactivation and their complicated electronics make them harder to swap into an older vehicle.

There are newer J-series engines with ever greater power outputs; indeed, Honda is still building them to this day. However, these engines are less popular swap candidates. These more complicated engines are harder to wire up and run in a swapped car, versus the simpler engines of the late 90s and early 2000s.

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Anything is possible, of course, but the more straightforward J-swaps are usually the earlier J30, J32, and J35 engines from before 2010 or so. For the older engines, quick and dirty swaps can be done using the original engine management system, often with a loom hacked up to work with the car its being swapped into. However, higher-performance builds will often use a standalone ECU and a custom tune to get the most out of the engine.

While the J-series engines are powerful, it’s worth noting they do come with a bit of a weight penalty. As explained by Motor Trend, where a B-series or K-series drivetrain might weigh on the order of 400 to 420 pounds, a J-series engine and transmission might come in at 500 to 550 pounds. Obviously, the combination of their smaller size and weight is why those engines have long been the most popular swaps. The  J-series is a more esoteric choice, obviously, but you do get great torque and the charm of six cylinders. In any case, they’re still a huge upgrade compared to some of the cheaper economy motors Honda put in lower-end models back in the 1990s and 2000s.

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The 2004 to 2006 Acura TL is a key member of the J-series ecosystem. It’s all down to the transmission.
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The TL came with a six-speed manual that mates with the J-series block. Complete with LSD, to boot.

Of course, if you’re swapping one of these engines into a project car, you’re almost certainly wanting to go with a manual transmission. This is where things get a hair more difficult—as you’d imagine, there simply weren’t a whole lot of manual Acuras and Honda Odysseys built. Ideally, you’ll be able to lay your hands on a six-speed manual from the 2004-2006 Acura TL.

This transmission is prized as it comes with a limited-slip differential (LSD) which is a boon to putting power down. Alternatively, you can snag a six-speed from the 2003 to 2007 Honda Accord V6, but you won’t get the LSD. Automatic swaps are not really the done thing, as the automatics traditionally paired with the J-series engines don’t have the best reputation for reliability.

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There are plenty of great community guides on how to navigate a J-swap on a budget.

Where Are You Putting That?

You can of course swap a J-series engine into just about anything if you’ve got the time and money to do so. They’ve become popular choices for sandrails and Miatas in recent years. Regardless, they’re most commonly swapped into Honda builds.

If you look to the aftermarket, you’ll find mount kits for putting J-series engines in all the popular Hondas of the 90s and 2000s. Hasport produces kits for the EF, EG, and EK Civics, and some can be made to suit the CRX, Del Sol, and Integra, too.

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Is there anything quite as beguiling as a massive engine crammed into a compact engine bay? Credit: Octane and Mayhem

Meanwhile, Innovative Mounts produce kits for mounting the engines in various generations of Civics as well as 1994-2001 Integras and even the slinky Prelude. In fact, Innovative even make mounts for putting a J-series into the Honda S2000, though you’ll want to source a special adapter plate to mount it to the original F-series manual transmission.

While some mount kits will make the engine a “bolt in” swap, others require cutting and welding to shoe-horn the V6 into its new home. Either way, getting everything else buttoned up that usually takes the most time. Whichever platform you choose, it bears noting that an engine swap like this is no easy job. Getting the engine mounted is just step one. You still have to figure out how to wire the thing and get it running, as well as how you’ll plumb it with fuel and coolant.

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Companies like Innovative Mounts make kits to bolt J-series engines into all the best Hondas of the 1990s and 2000s. Pictured here is a set for the 1997 to 2001 Prelude. Wouldn’t it be sweet to drive one with a big V6? Credit: Innovative Mounts

Then there’s the exhaust to think of, axles, and a lots of other jobs besides. Helpfully, aftermarket outlet Power Rev Racing provides a useful swap guide and video for the J-series, which covers a lot of these ancillary considerations for common swaps.

Then, of course, there’s the job of making sure the engine fits in a bay it was never meant to live in. The J-series engine is a bit larger than a lot of Honda inline-fours, even if it is a 60-degree vee. You can often make it fit in an engine bay, but some compromises are usually necessary. Some applications require relocating the alternator. More commonly, particularly in Civics, it’s necessary to modify the hood to clear the intake manifolds on top of the engine. This can require just a little trimming of the hood support structure, or in extreme cases, hood cutouts or a full custom panel. Some mount kits actually allow the engine to be mounted higher or lower for the best compromise between ground clearance and hood clearance.

It Was Ever Thus

It’s always worth remembering that junkyard engines are a perfect lesson in supply and demand. Creative enthusiasts identify a nice engine from some commodity car, with squillions of examples built. They figure it’s got good power, and it’s an easy swap into a popular enthusiast car. The bargain swap becomes popular, and eager modders rush to grab engines on the cheap. Eventually, prices go up as junkyards catch on to their value and supplies begin to dwindle . Then, the cycle begins again, as modders start looking for a different engine for budget performance gains.

This narrative has absolutely played out in the Honda world. Once upon a time, B-swaps were the go. Then, the Bs-series started getting expensive, so modders looked towards K-swaps as the newer engines started landing in junkyards. At first, it was fussy, because K-swaps weren’t established and there were few aftermarket parts available. Over time though, swap kits became available as the market for K-swaps grew. In turn, demand for the K-series engines went up, and prices moved in turn. The J-series engine may yet do the same, but for now, it’s still not too hard to find a dusty old minivan with a gem lurking inside.

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30 years ago, tuned D-series and B-series engines were all the rage. Credit: Honda

This is altogether a more modern look.

The J-series is obviously not the first Honda engine to become a beloved swap candidate. Nor is it likely to be the last. Eventually, production will wind up, supplies will dwindle, and the J-series will likely become less desirable as time goes on. In time, a new generation engine will take its place, once the junkyards are suitably loaded with spritely engines ripe for the plucking.

The appeal of the J-series swap is obvious. It’s cheap, powerful, and just a little more exotic by virtue of being a V6. We always tend to get more excited about the swaps that are a touch more offbeat, too—there’s a reason we spend more time talking about refrigerator engines than LS swaps these days.

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They might not rev high, but the J-series offers great power, great torque, and that classic VTEC charm. What’s not to love?

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They look great in an engine bay, but…
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…you might need to do something with the hood. Credit: Roads Untraveled

It may not yet have the prestige of the famous motors that have come before, but it’s an engine well worth considering if you have a thirst for something potent and just a little unusual at the same time. After all, who doesn’t want to go blasting around at speed with an engine built for hauling the kids to soccer practice?

Image credits: Honda, Acura, Octane and Mayhem via YouTube screenshot, Innovative Mounts, Roads Untraveled via YouTube screenshot

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Jp182
Jp182
1 hour ago
Reply to  Lewin Day

I’m guessing there is a bunch of hate later in these comments. I think this was a good article and just wanted to provide some positive feedback.

I knew about this engine’s swap ability but still enjoyed this

Ariel E Jones
Ariel E Jones
2 hours ago

It’s such a good swap that GM decided to do it to their Saturn Vue.

CTSVmkeLS6
CTSVmkeLS6
2 hours ago

“Some geniuses have been swapping in carbureted small bock 350s into Jaguars for cheap horsepower, er reliability” …KIDDING Lewin, I had to do it. The internet will come hard for that one!! All in all, your articles and writing are great, we do enjoy them.

Xt6wagon
Xt6wagon
3 hours ago

What i want in my wwd understeer machine. More front wieght.

What’s next a 5.2l swap into a v8 continental?

Dan Roth
Dan Roth
3 hours ago

Psst: Some geniuses made bad Fox Body worse: Mustang with a Mercedes Diesel Inline-Six – Engine Swap Depot

World24
World24
3 hours ago
Reply to  Dan Roth

That actually looks pretty cool! Probably the best small diesel to use, I think.

Mercedes Streeter
Mercedes Streeter
1 hour ago
Reply to  Dan Roth

Oh my god this is right up my alley 😀

Griznant
Griznant
6 hours ago

A friend swapped in a J-series from an Acura TL into his 944 track car. I guess this is not that crazy or rare, but he said it made the car a million times better, cheaper to run, and more fun. He didn’t have to hack up the hood though which is good since the swaps shown above look pretty cheesy with gaping holes in the hood.

Eslader
Eslader
3 hours ago
Reply to  Griznant

Yeah, the height of the J series is why the K series is still popular for the older Hondas. You can stuff a K into a 4th gen Civic without having to remove or vandalize the hood. Well, that and the J series are pretty heavy. I’ve seen people talking about offsetting that by putting ballast at the back of the car, but that just seems stupid to me. You’re sapping away the benefits of the HP gains by lowering the power to weight ratio just to make the thing driveable. Like, why?

I had an ’07 TL, and the J-series in that thing was absolutely marvelous. Nice torque, good power, smooth as hell. I’d love to have that characteristic in my CRX or MR2, but that engine is really only at home in a much larger vehicle.

Widgetsltd
Widgetsltd
36 minutes ago
Reply to  Griznant

While running with the Chumpcar endurance racing folks at Sears Point a while back, I saw one team running a 240Z with a J-series swap. It was quick, and it improved the car in a few ways: better weight distribution, lighter weight, more power, etc.

Clear_prop
Clear_prop
7 hours ago

Didn’t this exact article appear on this website a few months ago, with the same headline?

Too lazy to search it, but getting some serious deja vu.

The NSX Was Only in Development for 4 Years
The NSX Was Only in Development for 4 Years
8 hours ago

The J-swap has been a thing for quite a while now in the Honda world. It’s cool in theory but I’m not a fan myself. You either need to cut the hood or else raise the car up to a laughable ride height to get clearance for the oil pan, and even then it’s tight. They just really don’t belong in these cars.

I don’t see the point in doing a J-swap over just building a K-series, truthfully. The K-series is going to have almost endless aftermarket support, you can get J-series horsepower out of it without too much work, and you don’t have to worry about a weight penalty, either. I’d imagine the understeer would be comical on a J-swapped Civic.

Lincoln Clown CaR
Lincoln Clown CaR
7 hours ago

I’ve got a stock K and J – the K has more power and torque. 🙂

ADDvanced
ADDvanced
7 hours ago

Same. The hood cutting is so hack, and it just seems like I’ve never seen one where I was like “hell yeah that thing is perfect”, meanwhile most clean civics with B swaps hit that mark.

The NSX Was Only in Development for 4 Years
The NSX Was Only in Development for 4 Years
7 hours ago
Reply to  ADDvanced

The best one I’ve ever seen was featured in Honda Tuning way back in the 00’s. I can’t find the article online, but there’s a picture in this old thread:

https://www.k20a.org/threads/j-swap-ek-rando-sports-seeker-wing.66474/

It was eventually supercharged, too.

https://www.stanceiseverything.com/2020/01/honda-j32-swapped-ek-civic/

ADDvanced
ADDvanced
6 hours ago

Still nope. Rather have even a stock B16.

Speedway Sammy
Speedway Sammy
6 hours ago
Reply to  ADDvanced

Does anyone offer a cheap fiberglass hood with “power bulge”?

The NSX Was Only in Development for 4 Years
The NSX Was Only in Development for 4 Years
5 hours ago
Reply to  Speedway Sammy

I saw a custom one many years ago and it looked unspeakably bad. The engine just sticks up so high there’s no real way to integrate it well, unfortunately.

Jon Bandai
Jon Bandai
2 hours ago

Agree completely.

I’m a huge Honda guy and coincidentally I dropped my Si at the shop this morning to have a TSX swap installed. Swapping J’s is just dumb. I’ve never seen one of these in person and thought they were cool, just a spectacular waste of time for a car that isn’t that quick and way too heavy up front.

Xt6wagon
Xt6wagon
1 hour ago
Reply to  Jon Bandai

Let’s not forget it looks like you barely need anything when motor is static. A motor moving around under load requires far more. Which random forget. So a picture of a couple mm requires a far higher hood as you say.

MATTinMKE
MATTinMKE
8 hours ago

As a former owner of an Accord with this engine (and a 6MT) I can confirm it’s fantastic. Plenty of power and smooth as can be. Pulled like the T1 Mercedes wrote about yesterday.

NosrednaNod
NosrednaNod
8 hours ago

Did I miss discussion of the weight penalty?

ADDvanced
ADDvanced
7 hours ago
Reply to  NosrednaNod

Or hood hacking, or ground clearance

Bruinhoo
Bruinhoo
1 hour ago
Reply to  NosrednaNod

Yes, you did.

Jsloden
Jsloden
8 hours ago

The local jdm guru in my area did this in about 2000. It was reasonably quick but would get smoked by a stock mustang cobra. He also had a caged jdm crx, and fd rx7 and a 96 tt supra. This was when they were only worth less than 15k a piece though. Fortunately he held on to them over the years.

Ok_Im_here
Ok_Im_here
8 hours ago

Bummer that some minivans are the victims…which they were tricked out like that 1000hp Odyssey.

Lockleaf
Lockleaf
9 hours ago

This is not new nor is it news. J series swaps have been done for years upon years. Like I read about them in Sport Compact Car magazine? The ECU has always been the issue with these swaps. No one has cracked them for tuning like you can D, B, and K series, so to develop any new power, you HAVE to go aftermarket ECU. By the time you spend the money doing that, options are wide open and endless. Like massive turbo kit on a K swap.

Ash78
Ash78
9 hours ago
Reply to  Lockleaf

Remember, money is no object anymore, at least not when you can monetize the build on YT and other outlets.

I’m extremely cynical these days that anything is really done for reasons other than online reputation and money.

Jatkat
Jatkat
9 hours ago

Damnit Autopian, can we think of a new headline?

Max Headbolts
Max Headbolts
9 hours ago
Reply to  Jatkat

The “You can buy….” headline is also getting a little threadbare, earlier this week there were two articles next to each other with it.

Max Headbolts
Max Headbolts
8 hours ago
Reply to  Max Headbolts

Looks like they changed the headline on the McLaren article “This Wrecked McLaren Senna On Copart Could Be Your Next Cheap Track Car”

Cody
Cody
8 hours ago
Reply to  Jatkat

What are you talking about? This is the holy grail of headlines

Jatkat
Jatkat
8 hours ago
Reply to  Cody

Hah!

Cody
Cody
8 hours ago
Reply to  Jatkat

Some genius swapped an I3 drivetrain into a holy grail jeep that has taillights from a 60’s Volvo that’s also been converted into an RV

Mercedes Streeter
Mercedes Streeter
1 hour ago
Reply to  Cody

Needs to have “diesel” somewhere in there, but I like it!

Jnnythndrs
Jnnythndrs
9 hours ago

I absolutely love the J35/6MT in my Accord coupe, silky smooth, loves to rev, and known to be very reliable(in spite of the bullshit spouted on this site about timing belts). I’m always impressed that an old-school SOHC motor without DI makes nearly as much power as much more modern and complex engines.

The J series motor/trans is about 130lbs more than a K24 VTEC with trans, which is substantial, but I can see it being worth it in some cases.

Boris Berkovich
Boris Berkovich
8 hours ago
Reply to  Jnnythndrs

Thanks for answering the weight penalty question. Crazy that this didn’t come up in this entire article. Sloppy.

Musicman27
Musicman27
9 hours ago

As a young adult who recently bought a cheap ’98 Civic Coupe, this is very interesting.

Last edited 9 hours ago by Musicman27
ADDvanced
ADDvanced
7 hours ago
Reply to  Musicman27

No. You want a B series. K is cool too, but more work.

Last edited 7 hours ago by ADDvanced
Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
9 hours ago

“What’s not to love?”

Weight. Having driven both a V6 and K24A3 equipped versions of the same Accord I can say the V6 was noticeably nose heavy. It also had a larger turning radius.

Squirrelmaster
Squirrelmaster
9 hours ago

I knew a guy back in the early 2000s with the engine out of a 3.0 CL in his Prelude. His was a bit frankensteined, as there weren’t any established kits for it back then, and I think he was running a Megasquirt ECU on it (along with nitrous), but it was pretty neat. It was plenty quick, though while he didn’t think the extra weight compromised the handling, it didn’t feel as nimble on initial turn-in as another friend’s stock Prelude.

I also knew a guy circa 2004 who was planning to drop a J35 into the back of his Del Sol, after procuring it from a salvage yard out of a nearly new Odyssey that has been totaled in a rear end collision. I have no idea if he ever finished it, but it would have been wild.

Von Baldy
Von Baldy
9 hours ago

A really good place to learn how and what these will fit into is vtec academy with brian galespie, theyve played with ALL kinds of swaps and how it has to work to fit.

These engines sound pretty good with itb’s.
One thing to know is the headifold exhaust setup can really be only looked at as great for turbos, but kinda lame duck for anything else, but is a boon for super tight pipe work fitting.

If one felt froggy, they can take a tl type s setup, cradle and all, and fab it into the rear of a integra, civic, del sol, etc for a nice rwd rocket.

Morgan van Humbeck
Morgan van Humbeck
9 hours ago
Reply to  Von Baldy

Froggy all the things

Von Baldy
Von Baldy
7 hours ago

Gotta hop to it. May pad your budget.

Icouldntfindaclevername
Icouldntfindaclevername
9 hours ago

Fast and the Furious, again

Thomas Bell
Thomas Bell
10 hours ago

don’t forget the Saturn Vue used the J35 and it could even be had with a manual trans.

Morgan van Humbeck
Morgan van Humbeck
9 hours ago
Reply to  Thomas Bell

My uncle has one. It’s the mushiest transmission I’ve ever felt

GreatFallsGreen
GreatFallsGreen
9 hours ago
Reply to  Thomas Bell

Yes to the VUE, but not with the manual, the VUE manual option was only the GM 2.2 Ecotec/Getrag combo.

Speedway Sammy
Speedway Sammy
6 hours ago
Reply to  Thomas Bell

No Vue V6 manual was factory built, but these do often go to early graves in the junkyard due to the front unibody to engine cradle mounting rusting prematurely.

Toecutter
Toecutter
10 hours ago

The question we all should be asking is this:

“Will it fit into a 1st gen Honda Insight?”

Von Baldy
Von Baldy
9 hours ago
Reply to  Toecutter

Yes, yes it will

Eslader
Eslader
3 hours ago
Reply to  Von Baldy

Yep. There’s a surprising amount of room in the hatches of those things. 😉

Von Baldy
Von Baldy
2 hours ago
Reply to  Eslader

I had an ek hatchback, and lordy was there ever room for activities.

Pity theyre getting alot harder to find in the rust belt.

Millermatic
Millermatic
10 hours ago

Who comes up with article titles? Cutting a big hole in your hood is not a “genius” move…

Ash78
Ash78
10 hours ago
Reply to  Millermatic

“Cutting a big hole in the hood” should just be called “Gentrification” for short.

“Hey you got a shaker hood?”

“No, but I do have a nice collection of authentic shaker furniture that I found at a yard sale!”

Ash78
Ash78
10 hours ago

Weird to think that this was always possible (at least over the past 20+ years) but now it’s trendy. For soooo long, it was all about weight savings and balance, so I’m still wondering if slapping a big V6 in the front of a light car is really anything more than a party trick for the Social Media Age. Still cool, but I wonder if the power/weight ratio isn’t still pretty close to where it was with a tweaked 4-cylinder. Enjoy that new understeer 🙂

My Goat Ate My Homework
My Goat Ate My Homework
9 hours ago
Reply to  Ash78

Not just more weight but also more weight out in front of the front axle. I guess swaps for the sake of swaps is still fun but I had the same initial reaction as you.

Urban Runabout
Urban Runabout
9 hours ago
Reply to  Ash78

I guess you could put some sand bags in the trunk….

Dolsh
Dolsh
9 hours ago
Reply to  Ash78

That was kinda my first thought… the real grail swap motors are the ones where the new/old motor is bigger in displacement but not a lot heavier. You see a lot of LS and LFX swaps in Miatas, but it’s possible to do so and retain much of the balance of the car. Particularly with the LS… it’s not heavy, and I’ve seen ND builds that retained factory feel and 50:50 weight distribution.

GreatFallsGreen
GreatFallsGreen
9 hours ago
Reply to  Ash78

Probably comes down to availability too. I think now we’re at a point that more and more of the Honda products with running donor engines are officially being taken off the roads or scrapped due to rust or other non-powertrain-related maladies.

Brandon Forbes
Brandon Forbes
9 hours ago
Reply to  Ash78

Yeah I don’t like it in the FWD swaps, but I have seen and heard it in a Miata, and there I like it. Yes it’s heavier, but the engine sits further back, so it actually shifts the weight more to the rear, so I think that’s a great application of this!

ADDvanced
ADDvanced
7 hours ago
Reply to  Ash78

These swaps have been happening for 20 years. They’re always kind of lame imho.

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