Welcome back to the Wednesday edition of Shitbox Showdown! Today, after some truly bizarre choices recently, I’m going back to the well – just good old fashioned shitboxes. I wanted to see what I could find for under a grand. I’ll show you in a minute, but first let’s put yesterday’s silliness to bed:
I’m surprised it was that close, actually. But I just couldn’t keep that absurd V8 Nissan Versa to myself. Some things are so weird that they must be shared far and wide. I believe that’s one of the founding principles of the internet, isn’t it?
So with that out of the way, it’s time to scrape the bottom of the barrel again, and seek out the cheapest running and driving cars on the web – vehicles you can buy tonight, drive home without incident, get in tomorrow morning and drive to work. These two aren’t perhaps the absolute cheapest, or the best value; they’re just the first two viable candidates I spotted.
And honestly, I’ve seen worse. Hell, I’ve bought worse. Let’s take a look.
1995 Subaru Legacy – $800
Engine/drivetrain: 2.2 liter flat 4, 4 speed automatic, AWD
Location: Boulder, CO
Odometer reading: 191,000 miles
Runs/drives? Yep
I may have mentioned this before, but I generally dislike Subarus. It has less to do with the cars themselves and more to do with the attitudes of too many of the drivers; Subaru’s braggadocio about their cars’ wet traction prowess makes too many drivers too overconfident in their machines’ abilities and leads them to do stupid things. But that’s not this car’s fault, and to be fair, all-wheel-drive Subarus are capable of some pretty amazing things in bad weather.
At least it’s a sedan and not the twenty-in-every-Trader-Joe’s-parking-lot wagon, and the second-generation Legacy isn’t a bad-looking car as midsized sedans go. All-wheel-drive was still a box on Subaru’s option sheet in 1995, but this car is so equipped, as one would expect in Colorado, and sends power from its somewhat puny 2.2 liter engine through a four-speed automatic transmission. Don’t expect miracles when you step on the gas.
Overall, for eight hundred bucks, this car doesn’t look too bad. The seller says the brakes and tires are recent, but the struts might be done for, and it could probably stand a new correctly-sized battery. But it doesn’t look too rusty, and apart from a few bits of broken plastic, the interior looks fine. Cheap, underpowered, and all-wheel-drive: sounds like an ideal winter beater to me.
Of course, it does mean you’d have to admit to owning a Subaru. So you’d have to be okay with that.
2001 Hyundai XG300 – $700
Engine/drivetrain: 3.0 liter V6, 5 speed automatic, FWD
Location: Antioch, CA
Odometer reading: 190,000 miles
Runs/drives? Sure does
I had to look this car up. Nobody seems to remember that before Hyundai tried to make a BMW and succeeded, they tried to make a Buick and failed.
Actually, that’s not quite fair; this is the third generation of the Hyundai Grandeur, apparently a very successful and well-regarded car in Hyundai’s home of South Korea, and a stepping-stone along the way to the Genesis cars today. But damn if it doesn’t seem like they were trying to make their very own Buick Century based on a rough description.
This XG has lost quite a bit of whatever grandeur it had over the years; it has suffered a fender-bender that knocked the alignment out, but the seller says it still drives. The front tires are as bald as Telly Savalas, which leads me to believe that they’ve been driving it with the alignment out for a while.
But in the plus column, the seller says the car runs well, the air conditioning works, and it’s a good color. Kudos to the original buyer for choosing this emerald green over beige or silver. Shame about the clearcoat failing, but then, it is twenty years old.
If the alignment can be fixed, or gotten “close enough” to not chew through a new pair of front tires, this is a pretty nice $700 car, really. I don’t know much about the reliability of them, but it’s lasted this long with some clearly indifferent treatment. At this price, if you can get a year out of it, you won’t feel yourself ill-used.
And there you have it: shitboxes in the truest sense of the word. Cheap, disposable cars you need to have a certain attitude to drive, but probably will do the job of being a car for a good long while yet before something catastrophic happens, at which point you just walk away. Which one will it be?
[Editor’s Note: Man, I have to say: When it comes to old cheap cars, manual transmissions are a requirement for me. There’s nothing like an underpowered motor mated to a crappy four-speed slushbox. Driving these two around everyday sounds like hell. -DT]
I cannot speak to the XG300 depicted here. All observations by others are noted and pretty much ignored by me because . . . I was an XG300 owner in gold over tan. Prior to this car I have owned a wide variety of cars from luxury sedans, Mercedes, Cadillac (CT6), sports cars (911 x 3, Miata, Solstice, TR3B) econ boxes (Honda N600, original Honda Civic) and so on.
My XG300 was an excellent, comfortable, economical, semi-luxury sedan. When I passed it on to my son it had already gone 150K miles with no repairs. He drove it another 30K before totaling it in a Wichita snowstorm. It performed flawlessly for its entire life. Averaged 25 mpg, never burned a drop of oil, and the fit and finish remained excellent up to the day it died.
So for all the nay sayer’s who have never owned or even driven an XG300, I say shut up until you have some hands on experience rather than just parroting some crap you read on Facebook!
The only engine in existence more bulletproof than the EJ22 is the AMC 4.0.
Legacy all day.
With today’s crazy used car prices really either of these are a steal!
A Hyundai of that era is the worst car I’ve ever driven, bar none. That Subie is the next city over from me and I’m a little light on wheels and cash right now, I should probably buy it myself. It gets my vote, but man, working AWD for under $1000 in this area? Unheardof. I suspect that thing has serious problems that would cost more to fix than the car is worth.
Please go buy it, that thing is a steal.
I picture Mark staring at me in horror like the kid in The Ring. “You weren’t supposed to buy these!”
Was leaning to the Hyundai until I saw the collision damage and alignment issues. That tipped it in favour of the Subaru for me.
Even with how burnt I’ve been by Subaru’s in the past, I’d take the Legacy over the Hyundai in a heartbeat.
And considering the basic architecture is what Subaru used for the next millenia, parts availability and cross-compatibility between platforms is incredible. Find a binned ’07 Impreza with a hydrolocked motor [because you know someone was vaping in the engine bay while trying to install that sweet anodized battery tie-down and couldn’t wait to start the thing up, heyo!] and swap every other drivetrain / suspension part over to this thing. BAM! New car.
That gen Legacy shared bones with the Mazda Millennia? If that’s true, that’s astounding and I had no idea.
I chose the Subaru.
I have a Crosstrek that I don’t vape in and selected as it was one of the few newer manuals you can buy. I don’t have the eliteist attitude some owners have.
“needs alignment” is always a red flag for me. That could very well have a bent subframe. It reminds me of when I was in high school and hit a median, going too fast in the rain in my parent’s Saturn. I got a new wheel to replace the bent one, had the bent strut replaced, and drove it like that for months. My dad gets back from driving it the first time since the accident (months later), and had some questions regarding the car veering badly and the outside of one front tire being damn-near bald. Stupid teenage me initially says “I think it needs an alignment”. Yeah…..bent the shit out of that subframe!
Having a Hyundai of a similar era as my first car, I voted for the Subaru.
At first glance I preferred the Hyundai solely for the color. But then I started reading. Yep, the Subaru is the easy choice. It’s just a cheap car starting to show its age, but doesn’t actually seem to have anything wrong with it outside of those struts. But the Hyundai has earned its shitbox status and three-digit price through a harder life and more serious issues. No thanks.
Yeah, the Hyundai is just too far gone. Shame, as I’d have plumped for that one otherwise just for the weirdness factor.
The Hyundai would be questionable as a LeMons or Gambler 500 entrant. I wouldn’t trust it to do anything beyond serving as tread fodder at a tank demonstration.
Telly Savalas? Do you think the Millennial and Gen Z readers are going to get this reference? Have they ever seen The Dirty Dozen? They would probably think it is some influencer cooking show on TikTok or a Kardashian sex tape. You need to choose someone current and hip, like Jon Cryer or Howie Mandel or perhaps some usual supects like The Rock or Vin Diesel.
For the money, I would expect the subie to have seats that looked like you locked feral cats up inside, a mountain of fast food wrappers on the floor, and enough crumbs in the center console to feed a flock of seagulls (both birds and the band). I am mighty impressed the seller cleaned the interior.
Who loves ya baby?
Cryer and Mandel are ancient and might also go over their heads. Go with Pit Bull.
Enough with the negative vibes, man. I appreciated the Telly shout out. And the Subaru is the only choice here.
Alignment is off and the airbag had been deployed so that Hyundai probably has structural damage. Someone might be able to pull that out with a come along, some chains and a few stout posts but why go to that much trouble to have a car that will definitely fail catastrophically if it’s ever hit in the front again when the Subaru, with none of those red flags, is also available? No reason at all. People voting Hyundai either have a brand loyalty I didn’t know existed or are just being contrary. All it has on the Subaru is two cylinders!
Agree, something (a significant multi-point crash, maybe) is amiss on the Hyundai. Subaruuuuuuuuu!
Having driven an XG new, and the mechanically-similar Kia Amanti at 90K miles, SUUUUUUBARUUUUU! All day, everyday. Hell I’d still pick it if it were 2wd.
That’s it! Challenge accepted. Race me and my oh so disdained Subaru. Any graded surface, any weather.
(did I hit my braggadocio target?)
I had a ’93 wagon, but it had a clutch. I did park it at TJ’s on occasion, but never had any trouble spotting mine. The divot in the torque curve at 2500 RPM was real, and really annoying.
Between the devil I know and the damage to the XG I’m all in for the Subaru.
Judging by the passenger dash on the XG that “fender bender” was either more energetic or not the first; looks like the air bag deployed and the cover wasn’t reinstalled properly (nor the air bag replaced, most likely).
I see what yu’re talking about, but I think the edge of the cover is warped from heat. The airbag hasn’t deployed; it just wants to be out there a-havin’ fun in that warm California sun.
Do mine eyes deceive me or is the passenger side view mirror on the Hyundai held on by what appears to be packing tape?
The Subaru only because I don’t know why the passenger side mirror on the Hyundai is held on by saran wrap and don’t want to know.
If the alignment is fixable (and I would not assume it is), the Hyundai might be fine, but it cannot compete with the Subaru.
Easy choice. There’s too much price parity between the Sube and the Korean luxe model to really pick nits. I’m not really a big Subaru guy either, but this model was from their understated styling period and it has the 2.2, which should be good for a trip or two to the moon with proper maintenance. That thing is a bonafide steal and if I were in the area, I’d be one of the guys fighting for the seller’s attention.
I think the Subaru has a better chance of still being on the road in a year’s time. Winner, winner, chicken that got left on the rotisserie a few hours too long dinner.
And no offense David, but nobody looking at cars in this price range gives a shit about the transmission. Driving enjoyment isn’t even on your radar if you have less than $1,000 and need to get to work tomorrow to keep your job. These cars are a Hail Mary to keep your life on track.
I definitely agree with that last part. Honestly I think those of us with the means to practice our automotive hobbies should leave the cheapest stuff out there for people who can’t afford anything else. It’s fun to fix up or beat up shitty old cars but every one that gets ruined could have got some kid to a job or school. I think twice I’ve given cars away instead of selling them when I didn’t need the cash or a trade in to replace the vehicle. So far I’m 50/50 on whether the person I gave it to actually takes care of the car.
Amen to your comment! My cheap-O Ty-oter Corolla has a slushbox, which I cordially despise. But the car was cheap, the trans. shifts, and so far it has gotten me places without issues. Cheaply, I might add. If it was a Real Car, I’d be adamant about rowing-my-own-or-nothing. But then it would be an expensive car.
Did I mention it was cheap?
I agree that finding something that works is more important than finding something that’s fun, but in a not to distant past, you could find both, relatively speaking, relatively easily.
I didn’t love or hate my ’99 Saturn 5 speed, but it was far more fun to live with on a daily basis than a similar shitbox with a slush box (especially something from a decade prior with a 3 speed). Granted, my commute (78 miles round trip) was 90% rual highway, 10% congested city.
Additionally the Subie will get decent mileage, where the Hyundai, while a comfy place to spend some time, will guzzle gas every where every day. I had a friend who had one and it got considerably worse mileage than my Crown Victoria. And I had a heavy foot where my friend didn’t.
That would m matter for me in a toy, but people who buy sub $1k transportation definitely don’t want to waste a single drop of dino juice, especially when it’s topping $5 a gallon.
I used to find Subaru drivers kind of annoying. Now that delusional Tesla fanboys exist, Subaru drivers don’t bad at all (I’m not criticizing all Tesla drivers by the way, just those that think Elon shits diamonds and all Tesla flaws are evidence of his genius working in mysterious ways).
I’d go with the Subaru. I prefer the Hyundai, but with the alignment issue following the accident, I’m not convinced it will be a reliable daily driver. If the car could be properly aligned prior to purchase, I would buy the Hyundai.
* Subaru drivers don’t SEEM bad at all, rather (could we add a button to edit comments?).
I got what you meant and its spot on.
Subaru for the clean interior
Subaru for not being a Hyundai!
Hyundai produced some pretty good cars not too long after this one was made, but this wasn’t one of them, and it is BEAT. The Subaru looks like it was pretty well cared for, and has some life left in it. This choice is a lead-pipe cinch.
Gut feeling says they’re both tired but the Subaru is tired from diligent use, that Hyundai has seen some shit.
Not sure how well it reflects reality, but to my mind that generation of Korean cars was kinda suspect. I’d go with the Subaru