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Subaru Needs A Bit Of A Makeover

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A wonderful Friday to you all and welcome back to another round of The Autopian’s daily news rodeo. Today we’re talking about Subaru, Tesla (again, sorry), Ford’s surprising AI plans, and the ways car dealers are fighting back against irrelevance in the digital era. It’s all going to be very exciting, of that I can assure you!

Subaru Gets A New Boss As The World Changes

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Let’s get this out of the way first: Subaru is hardly a brand in need of rescue. It’s been shockingly successful for such a tiny company over the past decade and change, offering reasonably priced, weather-capable options (and the occasional BRZ) that have resonated with countless families everywhere. In Brooklyn where I live, if you have kids, you are basically issued an Outback or a Crosstrek upon arrival. The only thing that’s really dampened Subaru’s momentum in the past few years has been the pandemic-related supply crunch.

But from a car reviewer’s perspective, doesn’t Subaru feel a bit… stagnant, in some ways? The last fully new-new car it came out with was the Ascent SUV and that was in 2018. The electric Solterra is… well, it could’ve been a lot better. The styling, tech experience and even performance of the rest of the lineup is just fine. Successful as it is, it feels like Subaru’s been resting on its laurels for more than a minute. [Editor’s Note: There are the “Wilderness” cars with tweaked exterior styling and increased ride height. Those were a smart move for Subaru, I think. -DT]. 

And then there’s the challenge of What’s Next—navigating the world of electric, connected and potentially autonomous vehicles. In many ways, Subaru’s trajectory mirrors that of its close partner and investor Toyota, as well as much of the rest of the Japanese auto industry. It hasn’t really taken the lead on the tech front, although you can kind of forgive Subaru for that because it’s so tiny. (Then again, by contrast, Mazda is also small and look what it’s up to these days.)

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Anyway, like Toyota, Subaru’s about to get a new, slightly younger CEO and he–Atsushi Osaki—will be tasked with navigating the future challenges for the brand. Here’s Automotive News on what he wants to do next:

The next boss, speaking at a Friday press conference, said that flexibility and expansion will be key focal points of his tenure. Subaru will be flexible in quickly responding to market trends, such as electrification. And it will seek to grow in the U.S. and new markets such as Australia.

“We at Subaru want to survive the age of electrification by being nimble,” Osaki said. “We will put various systems in place while focusing on flexibility and expansion.”

The U.S., which constitutes Subaru’s biggest market by far, still holds lots of potential, he said.

“I believe we can still grow our sales in the U.S.,” Osaki said.

“We also receive a lot of customer inquiries from Japan, Asia, Australia, and Canada, as well,” he said. “At the moment, we are unable to meet such potential demand due to chip shortages, but we will work to resolve such issues and seek to further increase our sales globally.”

His tasks include future-of-cars stuff, improving quality, seeing what growth can still be squeezed out of Subaru’s giant U.S. market (especially with the Inflation Reduction Act incentivizing local EV development) and more. His predecessor Tomomi Nakamura was pretty aligned with Akio Toyoda on the EV front, but they’re all realizing that has to change:

Nakamura was known as an EV skeptic, often asking if demand was really that strong for EVs, especially in North America, Subaru’s most important market.

But last May, Subaru acknowledged increasing interest in the technology and announced plans to add a dedicated in-house EV assembly plant in Japan from about 2027. The push was part of a multibillion-dollar investment in electrification over the following five years.

Hopefully, Osaki can navigate all of this and inject a little freshness into Subaru as a brand in the U.S. Also, I sincerely hope cars like the WRX aren’t left to die on the vine in the EV era, but again, Subaru’s small and it can only do so much.

Tesla’s Investor Day Was Boring And Maybe That’s Fine?

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I actually missed Tesla’s Investor Day presentation on Wednesday because I was flying back to New York from the Lexus RZ launch in San Diego (review coming soon!) The thing is, I didn’t actually miss anything at all. The big news was… a diner? Heat pumps? Probably the Mexico plan, that’s a major deal.

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But what we didn’t get was news on major Autopilot updates, or the long-rumored new EV platform, or a plan for new model rollouts. As I’ve said countless times before, Tesla’s EV lineup is good—in many ways, still the best overall EVs you can buy right now—but it’s getting old and the competition is heating up quickly. Unveiling plans for a couple of brand-new crossovers, maybe one or two sedans, and something totally unexpected would’ve been a huge mic drop. No wonder investors didn’t really give a shit afterward.

But over at The Verge (which, full disclosure, is a publication I contribute to pretty regularly these days, although I was not involved with this one at all) Transpo Editor Andy Hawkins argues that the boringness actually wasn’t a big deal at all.

Why? Because it represented some degree of focus, which is notably absent from Elon Musk’s repertoire. And the eco-friendly message of it all represents Musk’s apparent thesis for the company’s future:

Look, saving the Earth rarely makes an exciting tech presentation. But Musk’s savior complex has taken a beating over the years. His bungled acquisition of Twitter has exposed his more reactionary tendencies, which has been a huge turnoff for some of his progressive-minded customers. The failed promises (“1 million robotaxis”) and delayed products (Cybertruck when?) have taken a toll on his reputation as an entrepreneurial visionary and all-around business genius. A 760mph hyperloop became a 50mph “Tesla in a tunnel.”

Maybe dialing back on the unfulfilled promises and focusing on the things you still need to accomplish is a good thing. Tesla’s previous Master Plans have been largely hit-or-miss. Part Deux, especially, remains broadly unfulfilled. And specifics of the third part of the plan still need to be fleshed out; Musk has promised a detailed white paper is forthcoming — but it seems to wisely steer clear of any benchmarks and deadlines that could be used to undermine Tesla’s credibility in the future.

Emphasis mine up there. It’s true that the easiest and most-used cudgel with which to hit Musk has been fact-checking his wild promises after deadlines pass. Remember how you were supposed to make $30,000 a year in passive income from deploying your Model 3 as a robo-taxi by 2019? Maybe Musk dialing that kind of thing back is a sign of growth.
At the same time, I wondered how much of the vague promises made at Investor Day were the result of a CEO (one who’s more deeply tied to his company than any other executive on earth) who is distracted with other matters right now. And I still think that unveiling a concrete roadmap for actual cars—you know, SUVs and sedans, not Cybertrucks—would’ve sent shockwaves through the rest of the auto industry.
But as ever, Tesla’s playing its own game here. It’s Elon’s world. We’re all just living in it.

Ford Isn’t Done With Self-Driving Cars

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Speaking of false promises, 2022 was a crushing reality check of a year for autonomous cars. Arguably the highest-profile example was the death of Argo AI, which had investments from Ford and Volkswagen and seemed to be more legit than most of those startups. And on the consumer side, automated driving assistance programs continue to be plagued with problems and user mistrust.

But do not think that automakers are giving up here. Most of them see a day when cars will eventually become less human-driven, at least at the level they are now. It’ll just take longer than expected. So even as Ford wrote off its investment in Argo last year, it’s also launching its own in-house automated driving unit, Reuters reports. It’s called Latitude and it should have some familiar faces:
The Dearborn, Michigan-based automaker added it hired about 550 employees who previously worked at Argo AI for its new subsidiary.

Ford, which jointly ran Argo with Volkswagen AG, booked a $2.7 billion non-cash pre-tax impairment on its investment in the unit and laid off some employees.

Latitude, which will be led by Ford’s executive director of ADAS Technologies, Sammy Omari, is headquartered in Pittsburgh with additional engineering hubs in Dearborn, Michigan and Palo Alto, California.

Bringing this stuff inside the family and treating it more as a slow-burn development, rather than an overnight multibillion-dollar revolution in transportation, is probably the smart play here. But it’s further proof that autonomous cars aren’t going anywhere.

Dealer Fight

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Finally, do not expect the car dealers to go gently into that good night. While there’s a version of the future where cars are bought online, need less maintenance thanks to OTA software updates, and can be repaired by remote mobile technicians, that’s not the most realistic approach—and the dealers are still deeply entrenched in the industry thanks to strong franchise laws.

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Automotive News has a good overview of the state-by-state fight that’s brewing right now as traditional car dealers seek to protect themselves from a raft of changes.

Several state dealer associations are backing legislation to amend franchise laws that govern the relationship between dealerships and the automakers whose brands they sell. The issues run the spectrum.

Some states, such as Virginia, are proposing language that would prevent traditional automakers from negotiating the sale or lease of a new vehicle directly with consumers or declaring dealers to be delivery agents. Other states want to spell out dealers’ role in participating in future subscription revenue that automakers may seek to activate with over-the-air software updates. Proposals to remove automakers’ right of first refusal in buy-sell deals — the ability to assign an alternative buyer — also are on the table.

And the question of how much automakers should compensate dealers for performing warranty repairs — which has been percolating for years and bubbled over in December with a lawsuit Volkswagen brought in Illinois — is surfacing in bills to align reimbursement rates closer to what retail customers pay for service work.

Taken together, “I do think that the biggest focus this year will be on emphasizing the importance of the independence of dealer operations and avoiding unfair competition by an OEM with their franchised dealers,” said Shawn Mercer, a partner with Bass Sox Mercer in Raleigh, N.C., who represents dealers on franchise law issues.

 The Mississippi Senate gave final approval Thursday to a bill to restrict electric car manufacturers from opening new brick-and-mortar dealerships in the state unless they comply with the same laws traditional carmakers follow.

[…] The bill does not restrict the direct sale of electric cars, as people can buy them online. But if they want to buy an electric car in person, they would have to drive to the state’s only Tesla store in Pearl, which would be allowed to remain open under the proposed new law. Tesla or any other electric car company could not open a new brick-and-mortar location to sell cars unless they enter a franchise agreement.

Back To You

Congratulations! You have actually defeated new Subaru chief executive Atsushi Osaki in an exhibition race at the All Japan Rally Championship. He was more than a worthy opponent, but at the end of the day, you just out-drove him. And according to the company’s peculiar bylaws, that means you are the new CEO of the Subaru Corporation.

It’s a weird rule, I know, but it keeps everybody honest.

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Now that you’re in charge, what do you do with Subaru? Good luck! You got this. Probably.

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CPL Rabbit
CPL Rabbit
1 year ago

OTA’s are not a silver bullet. Agreed. Though, EV’s are mechanically much simpler. So there is some reduced need for service in the future. Overall, yeah, full- featured service centers should stick around.

*The answer has NEVER been “dealerships bad.” Not once.
Yes. Some dealerships are absolutely fucking awful.*

A vast, *vast*, majority of my experiences with car dealership sales staff has been negative. There is a single dealer that has earned my business by being honest, fair, and transparent (Granger in Iowa, 6hrs away). Every other one that I’ve dealt with can have the sales dept amputated as far as I’m concerned.

Russ Toelke
Russ Toelke
1 year ago

When I broke into the car biz in 1977 the talk was already about moving away from the salesman experience when buying a new car. Things like furniture and appliances were showing up in department stores with price comparison shopping and the resulting competition becoming a thing. Folks were asking the question “why can’t I buy cars like that, too?”
Did we protect the Pony Express workers when the telegraph came along? Are we making sure newspaper employees keep their jobs since the Internet arrived?
Point being, things change. Progress moves along. We can now know every new car model’s options and pricing before stepping foot in a dealership but we still have to endure the salesman’s four-square payment pressure and F & I shenanigans when every credit union in the world can have that all worked out before buying.
I’ve worked for a lot of dealers. There are a lot of those folks who would lose their jobs with direct factory sales. And there needs to be a dependable repair network for warranty issues.
Aside from the warranty repair issue, I don’t see how this new car version of the Pony Express can be propped up much longer without major bribes and lobbying.
But mechanic certifications exist. Separate repair facilities have been proposed for decades. Parts department inventories have shrunk for years due to quick deliveries. I just can’t see the justification for having ten Chevrolet dealers in every city over 200K population any more. Ten warranty service centers, yes. But dealers? Dinosaurs. The Internet was their asteroid.

Brunsworks
Brunsworks
1 year ago
Reply to  Russ Toelke

I can’t think of too many industries where retailers have a strong enough lobby to force manufacturers to sell through them instead of directly to consumers.

It seems awfully…un-free-market.

In fact, I’d go so far as to say that maybe no retailers should have that strong a lobby.

Bork Bork
Bork Bork
1 year ago

Musk said last year that the Optimus robot will be more than half of Tesla’s future income and he said it again yet almost no one even mentions this.

121gwats
121gwats
1 year ago

TLDR

stubdad
stubdad
1 year ago

EV BRZ, EV WRX. Like everyone else says for the ICE stuff get rid of the boxer and cvt. I’d love to see their take on a hybrid high performance EV as someone else said. But the way they introduced the Solterra… is not a great start. Give the hippies their EV versions of your best sellers and they’ll be happy. So EV Foresters by the thousands I guess.

Anoos
Anoos
1 year ago

My makeover for Subaru:

1. More Manuals. Your cars are ugly and pretty much always have been. You need to accept that you’re the ‘weird’ brand and offer some weird things like third pedals. This may also help the brand in the off-roading world.

2. Drop the Boxer. What’s the point? Other manufacturers are getting more power and MPG from I4’s of similar displacement. There is no ‘center of gravity’ reason to keep the boxer. Only two models are performance-oriented (WRX, BRZ) and those both would be better with more power than a COG benefit that can be completely undone by an average American setting their seat 1/2″ higher in the cabin. Build it yourself or buy it in from Toyota.

3. More Ugly. Become more weird. Make an off road version of something that isn’t a styling package. Make a dune buggy. Make a 3-row SUV with a full-length folding canvas top. All the money spent being weird under the hood with the stupid boxer engine could be spent making any of these things, which would promote the brand more effectively.

4. Hybrids. You’re selling adventure, and your BEV offering doesn’t seem to have much range. Make a hybrid. Have a special ‘charge for camping mode’ that charges the battery to max in the last half hour of driving to the camp site. Include an adapter that lets campers plug in their 120VAC devices while camping.

Chronometric
Chronometric
1 year ago

The only things that can be fixed with OTA updates are software bugs and calibration mistakes. Admittedly, in today’s car designs there are a lot of bugs and bad calibration assumptions, but OTA won’t fix worn out parts, bad sensors, failed cameras, glitchy screens, zapped power supplies, or just bad mechanical designs. And there are even more of those.

SarlaccRoadster
SarlaccRoadster
1 year ago

Actually “dealeships=bad” is the correct take, and I’m gonna give you the ultimate argument: does the direct-sales model pour money into politicians pockets to outlaw dealerships? no? is the dealership lobby doing it? yes? then there you have it.

If you need political bribes and laws to prop up your anti-consumer business model by shielding you from a competing model, then not only is your models shit, but YOU KNOW IT, which is why you spend the millions lobbying for it.

SarlaccRoadster
SarlaccRoadster
1 year ago

Oh, and for the “jerbs!” crowd, should we start making laws about protecting whips & buggies manufacturers? how about subsidizing coal-mining? (West Virginia excluded form my rhetorical question, they’re already doing it).

The times are-a-changing and the world changes with them, just as it always has. Clinging to the “old ways” is not the way.

Stef Schrader
Stef Schrader
1 year ago

Throw some performance EVs in the mix, Subaru. Right now, it’s “‘splodin’ in spectacular and/or catastrophic fasion” that makes a Subaru a Subaru, regardless of what the propaganda tries to push about love or whatever.

Subarus that don’t ‘splode as much as the current crop of ICE-powered Subarus are a legit threat, and honestly fit pretty well with both the performance side and the overall appealing crunchy vibe of the company.

Even I would be tempted by that, provided y’all quit putting hideous plastic cladding all over everything in a manner that even the Pontiac Aztek blushes at.

Stef Schrader
Stef Schrader
1 year ago
Reply to  Stef Schrader

Bonus: Nitro Rallycross cars are already electric, and Vermont SportsCar already runs one. I’M JUST SAYING.

Stef Schrader
Stef Schrader
1 year ago
Reply to  Stef Schrader

Also, we’re bringing back the STi and the Brat, nerds.

FUCK YOU
FUCK YOU
1 year ago

I feel like Subaru has lost the thing that used to make it stand out from other brands. Their whole thing used to be that all of their cars come with AWD as standard. They also had some great early crossovers in the form of the Outback and Forester. The problem is, that is now what literally every manufacturer is doing, and Subaru isn’t even necessarily doing it better than the competition.

What else have they got? Styling? Um, no. Interior quality? Well, it’s fine but it’s nothing special. Driving dynamics? Their performance offerings are decidedly half-assed, and none of their other models even pretend to be fun drivers. Reliability? Middle of the road, as far as I can tell. Value? Their pricing is fine, but hardly spectacular. Technology? They’re keeping up I guess, but that’s it. Brand loyalty? Maybe a little bit in New England, but even that’s a stretch. A commitment to the boxer engine layout? Nobody cares. Fuel efficiency? Don’t make me laugh.

Why would anyone pick Subaru over the competition? What’ve they got? Seriously, what?

Aaron Vienot
Aaron Vienot
1 year ago
Reply to  FUCK YOU

Subaru has brand loyalty and cult followings not only in New England, but also in Colorado, and in the PNW region.

That said, they used to have the simplest, most engaging AWD system in the business, and the option of both MTM and conventional automatic on most models, even while other brands mainly offered FWD-based-and-biased AWD systems and increasing numbers of CVTs. Now Subaru is trending the same direction for the usual fuel efficiency reasons and their models are less interesting with each passing year.

MikeInTheWoods
MikeInTheWoods
1 year ago
Reply to  Aaron Vienot

Exactly this. I had owned 9 Subarus, all manuals, all wagons. With snow tires they were perfect for Maine, dogs, and practical. I’d pass people who went off the road in big trucks, SUVs and stuff all the time. It was like a family vehicle that had a little rally car secret mode you could unlock in winter. From 2012 I stopped caring about Subaru since they went CVT and chased mainstream growth.

Anoos
Anoos
1 year ago
Reply to  FUCK YOU

There is definitely a cult following in NE and a few other pockets in the US. About once a month in my town I notice that the car in front of me and behind me in traffic are both Foresters of the same generation in the same color as mine. Not long ago, I would have counted myself among the faithful. I’ve been putting off a new car purchase and Subaru’s lineup has become even less interesting to me over that time.

We have an Outback (5MT) and a Forester (6MT). We’ll probably be replacing one of them with a Prius Prime. They’re both fine for a few more years so I can wait out markups.

PaysOutAllNight
PaysOutAllNight
1 year ago

Your new overlord says every Subaru is going 100% Plug-in Hybrid EV (PHEV) or manual.

Going PHEV will get electrification without using all the available battery cells on just a few cars. About 20-30 miles winter range is enough for each Subaru. That’ll go about 40-50 miles in the summer. Going PHEV will also get rid of the stupid, high maintenance, unreliable, and expensive to fix CVTs in favor of rock-solid, low maintenance ECVTs.

Everything that’s not a plug-in hybrid gets a 6-speed manual transmission. Every single model gets this option. Everything manual gets a turbocharged performance version, which means every model gets this option, too.

And we’re bringing back the Brat.

Ta-da! Subaru fixed for at least the next 10 years.

Drive By Commenter
Drive By Commenter
1 year ago

Subaru needs to go hard on EV’s. Especially ones that can handle a bit of a rougher road without costing Rivian money. There’s a niche there that they’re primed to fill. People already think Subaru for outdoorsy vehicles. They don’t need a ton of range but do need fast charge speeds. Like 120 miles in 20 minutes kind of speed.

To fund that, WRX the Crosstrek to fill in the WRX hatch role. Make the more butch Ascent. Make hotter versions of everything with a WRX-Line or something hotter than the turbo XT’s without diluting the WRX brand.

PaysOutAllNight
PaysOutAllNight
1 year ago

I was with you all the way until you said “They don’t need a ton of range but do need fast charge speeds. Like 120 miles in 20 minutes kind of speed.”

All electric vehicles that aren’t secondary transportation or hybrids need either a ton of range, or 120 miles in five minutes kind of speed.

Manwich Sandwich
Manwich Sandwich
1 year ago

Regarding Subaru… one way they can inject some freshness is if they make a new all-electric WRX… or at least make a hybrid WRX.

Regarding the dealer fight:
“Several state dealer associations are BRIBING POLITICIANS TO back SHADY ANTI-CONSUMER legislation to amend franchise laws that govern the relationship between dealerships and the automakers whose brands they sell. ”

There… fixed it for accuracy.

And if I was in charge of Subaru, the next Subaru STI models would be high performance BEVs on a dedicated BEV platform that may or may not be a derivative of the platform used by the Solterra.

And I would start with STI versions of the Forester and the Impreza.

And that in turn would enable Subaru to start selling high performance vehicles in Europe again.

Ryanola
Ryanola
1 year ago

I could never own a Subaru. I have eyes. Most hideous stupid looking car brand by far.

Manwich Sandwich
Manwich Sandwich
1 year ago
Reply to  Ryanola

But if you were in charge, you could change that!

MrLM002
MrLM002
1 year ago

Me as the CEO of Subaru?

In order:

1.) Push an update to all current production CVT having Subarus to get rid of the fake shifts. It doesn’t help efficiency, reliability, or durability of the units.

2.) Tell the dealerships there will be NO markups on our cars or we’ll send you back to the stone age you greedy neanderthals.

3.) Get into immediate talks with Toyota to hybridize all the current Subaru models that are available with a CVT and in doing so replace them all with planetary e-CVTs like those found in almost all of Toyota’s hybrids.

4.) Fix the silicone sealant in the coolant issue

5.) Subaru Brat/Baja development

6.) Make all Wilderness models available with a manual

7.) State every future ICE Subaru will be available with a manual transmission under my reign.

8.) Convertible BRZ development

9.) Work with US legislators to get rid of the footprint rule.

10.) Work with US legislators to get rid of the Chicken tax

11.) BEV Subarus, not BEVs with Subaru badges slapped on them.

12.) Work with US legislators to exempt all pre 2008 vehicles from the 25 year importation rule with the only requirement being they must meet DOT lighting standards.

13.) Keep on fighting for Automotive enthusiasts, Subaru, and sensible transportation as long as I’m able to.

Proracer211
Proracer211
1 year ago
Reply to  MrLM002

BRING BACK THE STI!
please….

Black Peter
Black Peter
1 year ago
Reply to  Proracer211

5 door too

Manwich Sandwich
Manwich Sandwich
1 year ago
Reply to  Proracer211

The only way the STI can come back is if it’s a hybrid or a BEV.

The last STI became unsellable in a lot of big markets like the EU because the fuel economy and emissions sucked.

Black Peter
Black Peter
1 year ago
Reply to  MrLM002

*slow clap*
BRILLIANT!!

Manwich Sandwich
Manwich Sandwich
1 year ago
Reply to  MrLM002

I agree with just about everything you said… especially #3 and #7. Just go all-hybrid or manual at this point and ditch the regular CVT as soon as possible. And implement a long term plan where they they have their own great BEV platform that they can build WRXes and STIs off of (referencing #11).

For #5… and make the Brat/Baha price-competitive with the Ford Maverick (at least in AWD trim).

And I strongly support #9, #10 and #12… but I won’t get my hopes up as you can expect Stellantis, Ford and GM to lobby to keep these stupid rules in place.

Stef Schrader
Stef Schrader
1 year ago
Reply to  MrLM002

YES. Death to fake shifts forever. I don’t mind it if someone chooses paddles-mode, but otherwise, it’s 2023, people know what a CVT is, and a CVT should be allowed to operate like a CVT.

BigThingsComin
BigThingsComin
1 year ago
Reply to  MrLM002

You’re hired!

MaximillianMeen
MaximillianMeen
1 year ago

Regarding legislation to protect dealers, I think TheAutopian lobbying arm needs to get some provisions added to such bills requiring dealers taking advantage of protections to donate a particular % of their revenue to an automotive journalism fund to ensure the long-term survival of TheAutopian and other lesser websites. A further rider on such bills should also prevent said dealers from having any editorial influence on these sites.

Helmut Monotreme
Helmut Monotreme
1 year ago

They can look to their past for inspiration. I love my 2020 STi, but I’d trade it in a heartbeat if I could get a 2023 STi wagon. Less than a heartbeat if I could get a bugeye 2023 STi wagon.

Justin Grady
Justin Grady
1 year ago

Bring back the SVX as a fast-as-shit AWD electric… could parter with Lucid motors on it. It’d sell in the tens (as a 2 door).

GreatFallsGreen
GreatFallsGreen
1 year ago
Reply to  Justin Grady

I would find a way to be one of those tens of buyers.

Myk El
Myk El
1 year ago

Me in charge of Subaru? As was already pointed out, there are some styling issues in the lineup. Not sure how the money situation is there, but the challenge I think is to grow the brand without driving away its existing loyal following. I’d want to explore having something in the low end of the market, true basic transportation and recycle the Baja name on a more direct (i.e. hybrid and also EV) competitor to the Maverick.

TXJeepGuy
TXJeepGuy
1 year ago

Wilderness WRX. Its Subaru’s answer to the Raptor, TRX, etc.

Justin Grady
Justin Grady
1 year ago
Reply to  TXJeepGuy

That’s a winner, seriously. Especially if offered with decent manual and auto (non CVT) transmissions.

davesaddiction - Long Live OPPO!
davesaddiction - Long Live OPPO!
1 year ago
Reply to  Justin Grady

…and a hatchback.

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