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That ’70s Showdown: 1972 Ford Pinto Squire vs 1979 Volvo 242

Sbsd 12 9 2024
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Good morning! Another week, another batch of cheap cars to choose from. This week, I’m only doing manual transmissions, I decided, and I’m going to go decade by decade, starting with the 1970s.

On Friday, we looked at a couple of cheap runabouts from south Florida, and there was some debate over whether or not the Saturn was the base SC1 model, as I indicated, or the twin-cam SC2. It has trim elements of each, but I’ve just never seen an SC2 that basic before, so I assumed it was an SC1. Whatever; it lost to a PT Cruiser.

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I reject a lot of potential cars for missing information: too few photos, no description, et cetera, and I think from now on, I’m going to add another criterion to my decision-making. No underhood photos? Automatic rejection. If I can’t actually see what engine is in it, it doesn’t get featured. That’s how we’ll solve that.

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So – let’s kick off our week-long salute to stickshifts with an economy car from the pre-malaise days, and an import with a cult following. Both have had a bunch of work done to them, and both need some more. Were you expecting perfection? You’re reading the wrong column. Let’s check them out.

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1972 Ford Pinto Squire – $4,000

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Engine/drivetrain: 2.0-liter overhead cam inline 4, five-speed manual, RWD

Location: Berkeley, CA

Odometer reading: 79,000 miles

Operational status: Ran and drove great – until it spun a bearing

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Ford’s compact Pinto ended up being the most notorious car from a decade chock-full of questionable decisions from Detroit. Ford’s decision not to recall the Pinto after a bunch of rear-end impacts caused fires was not only boneheaded, but also heartless, and Ford deserved all the hot water it got into and then some. The hell of it, though, is that the Pinto was not a bad little car, really, especially alongside Chevy’s disastrous Vega. And the Pinto wagon, which wasn’t prone to catching fire if rear-ended, was actually kind of good-looking.

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This Pinto wagon is the “Squire” model, with fake-woodgrain trim along the sides for maximum ’70s effect. It’s powered by a 2.0-liter version of Ford’s OHC inline-four, with an upgraded five-speed stick behind it. It has had some other performance mods besides the five-speed, including suspension upgrades, head work, electronic ignition, and a Weber carb. It ran and drove great until two weeks ago, the seller says, when it suffered a spun bearing in the engine. If you don’t know what that means, here is an explainer that goes into more detail than you could possibly need. The short version: You’ll need to overhaul the bottom end of the engine, or find another known-good-running engine and transfer the go-fast bits over to it.

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Inside, it’s in decent condition, though there’s no telling how the seats look under those covers. But I absolutely love the details: a nice wood-rimmed Grant steering wheel, a “Keep On Truckin'” floor mat (that has to be worth something on eBay on its own), and an eight-track player. Even better, you can read the tape that’s in it: Black Freaking Sabbath. Hell yes.

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Outside, it’s a little rough-and-ready, but true to form for a California car, it isn’t rusty. The woodgrain is bleached almost white from the sun, and the paint is chalky, but those turbine wheels make up for a lot. I mean, I know it’s a Pinto, but it’s – dare I say it – cool.

1979 Volvo 242 DL – $4,200

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Engine/drivetrain: 2.1-liter overhead cam inline 4, four-speed manual + overdrive, RWD

Location: Portland, OR

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Odometer reading: 108,000 miles

Operational status: Runs and drives, but needs a little work

I still think it’s funny that the Volvo 240 series cars are considered “cool” these days, because back in the ’90s when I was working in a garage, they were anything but. Nobody wanted to look like a divorced mathematics professor or an elderly bookstore owner, and old Volvos languished on used car lots, overlooked by everyone, including me. Which is a shame, because they have always been really good cars, and better to drive than you’d ever guess by looking at it. Their popularity and rising values are sort of an automotive revenge of the nerds, I guess.

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This 242 is owned by a young enthusiast, who had to leave it behind when they moved, so it’s now up for sale. It came from an estate sale about a year ago, and the seller did a ton of work to bring it back to life from what sounds like a long slumber. It runs and drives all right, but it still needs some work; the suspension and steering haven’t been touched, and the engine needs a little tuning yet. However – and Volvo enthusiasts will know how big a deal this is – the heater blower motor is brand new.

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A lot of old Volvos are a bit piecemeal inside; often the seats have been replaced and don’t match, or there’s a big gaping hole where the radio should be, or something. But this one looks pretty good. It doesn’t have a lot of miles on it, which is probably a big part of it. I had never seen this gauge cluster in a 240; apparently it’s called an “R-Sport” cluster, and it’s one of those factory aftermarket things in that extra brochure in the showroom that everyone looked at but no one ordered anything from.

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Volvos of this era only have one natural enemy, but it’s a doozy – rust. This one has holes in the trunk and one side of the floor pan, but it’s still structurally sound. A replacement floor pan is included, but obviously getting the new pan is the easy part. You’ll have to know how to weld, and take the interior apart. On the plus side, it does have some of Volvo’s best-looking factory wheels, and the cool 242 GT grille with fog lights.

’70s cars get a bad rap from a lot of enthusiasts, but they’re cheap, and they can be a lot of fun. Either one of these could be a wonderful weekend driver that you don’t take too seriously, and personally I like that idea a lot better than some precious garage queen that you’re afraid to park anywhere. You’ll just have to put in a little work to get them there. Which one is more your speed?

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Dhunt
Dhunt
1 month ago

I picked the volvo but this song really praises the pinto:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0MKQjFb0bE

Col Lingus
Col Lingus
1 month ago

Easy choice today.
Red Swede wins. This is a minor project to do, with the parts supplied. Easy peasy.

And the Pinto is a rolling red flag on so many levels.
I like Pintos, have owned more than a handful.
Would not even offer $200 bucks for this piece of crap.
This thing has been beat to death, and then some. Fight me.

Slow Joe Crow
Slow Joe Crow
1 month ago

A stripper Saturn SC2 is believable because we ha a poverty spec 97 SL2 sedan for years. It had the 16V engine and bigger tires but it also had steel wheels, hand crank windows and an interior full of switch blanks because the only options were AC and automatic. The crank windows fascinated the carpool kids and we had it until 2017 when the differential grenaded.
On topic, the Volvo in the home of ipd, even if I have to fix rust

1978fiatspyderfan
1978fiatspyderfan
1 month ago

Runaway for the Volvo. I refuse to vote for the Pinto. Not because of the imaginary explosions, this was made up and faked by a organization who repeatedly failed to get the Pinto to explode so they cut away and created an artificial spark to get the desired result. Poor form of Mark to perpetuate the myth. But I’m not buying any car from a lefty owner in Berkeley. Not to mention $4,000 for a POS vs same price for a decent running attractive Volvo. Anyone saying pinto doesn’t know cars.

Col Lingus
Col Lingus
1 month ago

Moon landing was faked too, right?

FuzzyPlushroom
FuzzyPlushroom
1 month ago

The bodywork the Volvo needs isn’t anywhere that’ll need to be pretty. I’m biased, sure, but a flathood 242 with an M46, a GT grille, an uncracked dash, those gorgeous gauges, and overall decent cosmetics that hopefully won’t need a hell of a lot (post-welding) to get back on the road sounds like a more fun bet than spending the same money on a Pinto that needs the engine out.

That said, I’m not voting against putting a junkyard 2.3 and a big ol’ turbo in the Pinto, and I wouldn’t be mad if it ended up with a 16v Volvo head.

Geoff Buchholz
Geoff Buchholz
1 month ago

I’m sure the Volvo is the right choice, but the welding scares me. We’ll take the Pinto and drop in another four-banger.

JunkCarJunky
JunkCarJunky
1 month ago

Definitely the Volvo over the Fix Or Repair Daily Pinto…yeah, I agree that if someone doesn’t have a pic of the engine bay in an ad=ND/Crackpipe

Lardo
Lardo
1 month ago

had a salmon colored Pinto wagon that I drove cross country several times. was a great vehicle. Love the faded wood. so Pinto for me

AircooleDrew
AircooleDrew
1 month ago

I want that damn Volvo so bad. Absolutely no contest here between these two.

JDE
JDE
1 month ago

I was going into this thinking the Pre-Smog Pinto with a ?5 speed? would be the one. Then I saw it and read the part about how the guy wasted money making a 2.0 4 into a “racish” wagon. WTF. i hate welding in floors, but the Swede gets it even if it is smog choked and likely rusty in places t you can’t see as well.

Luxobarge
Luxobarge
1 month ago

Let’s see: car that was good when new but needs work vs. car that was crap when new that needs work. Well, that’s a no-brainer: it’s the Swedish redhead for me.

Frank Wrench
Frank Wrench
1 month ago

It was a tough call for me due to the funk factor of the Pinto but the mods turned me off. And who drives around with the timing belt cover off. Like walking around with your junk hanging out.

Urban Runabout
Urban Runabout
1 month ago

Is this a trick question?
The Volvo all day long, and twice on Sundays

Zykotec
Zykotec
1 month ago

This is a tough one. As my first car when I got my license was a ’78 242. Last year with round headlights over here (except for the GT), and last year with the brick tail lights so it looked properly old. Mine had the carbed B19, so no speedmonster like the injected B21, but still a fun car, if a bit heavy to use ( no power steering, so probably 12 full rotations from left to right steering lock)
On the other hand, a ‘Squire’ Pinto is the one of the most absurd and ridiculous things made and unlike the 242 it’s like unicorn droppings with hens teethmarks in them over here. It even has he General Lee style wheels. I still have some Ford tuning parts lying around from all the Sierras that would probably work in it. I have to google if the cologne V6 can fit in the Pinto…(it does)
So Pinto Squire it is. (also because I think the ‘facelift’ taillights on the 242 look weird)

JDE
JDE
1 month ago
Reply to  Zykotec

the Cologne V6 was not a huge upgrade. you would be far better off with a windsor V8, or even an a turbo 2.3 L 4banger.

Zykotec
Zykotec
1 month ago
Reply to  JDE

I know, but the V6 is a couple (maybe even a dozen) pounds lighter than a V8, and I already have almost all the parts needed to build a 200hp 2.9 engine laying around the property somewhere. Waiting for me to grow some motivation or stop restoring the house.

Shooting Brake Advocate
Shooting Brake Advocate
1 month ago

2 doors, long roof, manual. It’s the Pinto for me, and it’s not even close.

Mike F.
Mike F.
1 month ago

I would rather have the Volvo, but the repairs on the Pinto are more doable for me, and (believe it or not) I see more 2 series Volvos around here than I do Pintos.

Last edited 1 month ago by Mike F.
1978fiatspyderfan
1978fiatspyderfan
1 month ago
Reply to  Mike F.

Maybe there is a reason for that?

Mike F.
Mike F.
1 month ago

Being ironic there. 😉

No Kids, Just Bikes
No Kids, Just Bikes
1 month ago

While it is cool for a Pinto it is still a Pinto. 242 in decent shape is hard to beat. I can figure out rust repairs on panels that are never seen.

Stephen Reed
Stephen Reed
1 month ago

I was leaning Volvo till I saw the bit about rust. I would rather source parts for the Pinto, which is rust free, and drop something like a 4.6 V8 or a 351W in it and make it fun.

1978fiatspyderfan
1978fiatspyderfan
1 month ago
Reply to  Stephen Reed

The bit about the rust was 2 spots needs repair but structurally sound vs a Pinto that according to the description was never structurely sound and has a toasted motor. I wonder if many members have English as a second language?

Stephen Reed
Stephen Reed
1 month ago

English is my first language, but making a dumb car out of a Pinto appealed more to me than a Volvo this go-around.

Remember, it’s just internet money. ;P

MATTinMKE
MATTinMKE
1 month ago

That Volvo has so much potential, but no rust wins the day.

1978fiatspyderfan
1978fiatspyderfan
1 month ago
Reply to  MATTinMKE

I see nothing that says Pinto is rust free.

MATTinMKE
MATTinMKE
1 month ago

“ Outside, it’s a little rough-and-ready, but true to form for a California car, it isn’t rusty. ”

To me that’s as close as we’re going to get for a car of this vintage.

Manwich Sandwich
Manwich Sandwich
1 month ago

Volvo for me. At the very least it’s a good parts car. Or if you finish fixing it up, you have a decent semi-classic car. Also with the Volvo seller giving all that detailed info, that’s a good sign you’re not dealing with an idiot.

The Pinto on the other hand was a heap of shit even when new. And this one looks trashed.

And some of the mods look half assed such as that uncovered timing belt. And the fact is, with a spun bearing, it’s way overpriced and is barely worth half the asking price. Yeah the body seems straight, but it still looks like shit. And those cheap seat covers are likely covering trashed seats.

Eggsalad
Eggsalad
1 month ago

The Volvo has a very rare, dealer-installed GT gauge package. To the right Volvo nut, that gauge setup alone is worth $500-$1000. If I didn’t live where A/C is an absolute necessity, I’d be booking a flight to Portland right now

Nicholas Nolan
Nicholas Nolan
1 month ago

Yet another car that, if it were on the proper coast, I would be writing a check for as we speak. I picked the Volvo. I liked these even back in the 90s. Something unusual about them to me. All my math teachers drove Toyotas.

Cyko9
Cyko9
1 month ago

I wanted to vote for the Pinto, but it’s just not nice enough at that price. As a project, with a new engine, it’d be great. Went for the Volvo and a delusion the rust isn’t too bad.

OrigamiSensei
OrigamiSensei
1 month ago

The pricing on both of those is utterly ridiculous, and I say that as a resident of southern California where a running clean titled car generally starts at $4000.
I won’t deal with rust, so I’ll vote for the pinto but my real vote is neither despite both cars being inherently somewhat interesting.

Pneumatic Tool
Pneumatic Tool
1 month ago

I’ll take the Volvo, grab a tweed jacket & pipe and cosplay “college prof from the early 80’s”

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