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The 2025 Kia Carnival Hybrid Makes The Best Family Hauler Even Better

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When I drove the current Kia Carnival I said it was “low-key the best family car you can buy” on account of its reasonable price, extreme comfort, high level of stylishness, and overall luxurious feel. The one piece that was missing? It wasn’t particularly efficient and could definitely benefit from a hybrid system. Kia has listened, and the new 2025 Carnival gets a tweaked exterior and an honest-to-goodness hybrid system.

The refreshed Carnival continues to improve, with a revised exterior package inspired by the Kia Telluride and other modern Kias. Is it a touch Cylon [Ed Note: This is a Battlestar Galactica reference, apparently. -DT]? Yeah, but not in a way that I mind.

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Kia calls the Carnival an “MPV” and not a minivan, which is mostly marketing-speak, but I’ll let it pass because the vehicle is just full of smart features like giant cupholders, USB outlets everywhere, sliding seats, and all sorts of other goodies you actually want when you have kids.

2025 Carnival
2025 Carnival

Whether you want a hybrid or non-hybrid, all new Kia Carnivals get the refreshed maw, over-the-air-update capability, a new connected cockpit system, an updated ADAS system, and even lights in the seatbelt buckles so kids can find them more easily in the dark (a constant source of annoyance).

But let’s get to the good stuff, because if you’re buying this I think you should skip the 3.5-liter V6 with 287 hp and 260 lb-ft and go straight for this new hybrid. And I say that having never driven it.

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What We Know About The Hybrid

2025 Carnival
2025 Carnival

As expected, the hybrid we’re getting in the United States is basically the hybrid being offered in South Korea already. Kia takes a 1.6-liter turbo inline-four and pairs it with a six-speed automatic transmission and a 74-horsepower electric motor for a combined output of 242 horsepower and 271 lb-ft of torque, which is a bit more than the related Kia Sorento Hybrid.

There’s a little bit more detail in Kia’s press release:

Unique hybrid performance upgrades further aim to improve performance and fuel economy, while also working towards an overall comfortable ride. Aerodynamic 17” wheels are exclusive to the Carnival HEV. In Eco/Smart mode, Electrification-Vehicle Motion Control (E-VMC) kicks in with the flick of the paddle shift lever to adjust the amount of regenerative braking with a three-level deceleration control. Other features specific to the Carnival HEV include E-Handling, which is designed to help improve vehicle responsiveness when entering and exiting a corner; E-Ride that can help smooth out the action of going over bumps with specially tuned shocks, and E-Evasive Handling Assist that is designed to help control the vehicle movement during emergency steering.

This is a parallel hybrid system, so it can’t go for long distances on pure electrical power like the Pacifica PHEV, but it should be able to scoot along at low speeds only using the electric motor and 1.49 kWh lithium-ion battery. For packaging reasons, the hybrid is only available with the 8-passenger layout, not the 7-passenger layout.

2025 Carnival
2025 Carnival

There are also no details yet on pricing, though we do know the system won’t be available on the lowest-level LX trim (which currently starts around $34k with delivery). If I had to guess I think the hybrid option will probably start around $38k before delivery, to keep it slightly under the 2024 Toyota Sienna (which is hybrid only).

And, finally, there are no EPA range estimates, but this review of the hybrid from The Korea Herald provides some clues:

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Despite its sizable frame, the 1.6-liter turbo engine coupled with the electric motor delivered a robust and refined performance. Officially, it promises a fuel efficiency of 13.5 kilometers per liter (about 31.75 miles per gallon) — just a little lower than the latest Toyota Sienna Hybrid at 14.0, which leads this segment in the US.

The reporter’s test reported fuel efficiency of 13 kilometers per liter in mixed usage, including all three Eco, Smart and Sports modes — slightly below the official figure but much higher than its gasoline counterpart, which hovers around 9 kilometers per liter at best.

The Sienna, if you get the FWD version, produces an EPA-estimated 36 MPG city and 36 MPG highway. If the Carnival can pull off even 33/33 that would be a massive improvement over the current vehicle’s 19/26 numbers. Do I wish this was a PHEV? Absolutely. Do I wish that Kia offered AWD like the Sienna Hybrid? Sure. If enough of us buy these things might that be in the future? Only one way to find out.

Kia says the redesigned Carnival goes on sale this summer, so we should all know soon enough if this is an even better deal and if the mileage is worth all this excitement.

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Frank Wrench
Frank Wrench
9 months ago

It’s nice to see another hybrid minivan in the mix. I began bitching 20 years ago about the lack of hybrid minivans. With our 2010 Mazda5 trashed, rusted, and too small now for our family of 5, we almost pulled the trigger on a Hybrid Sienna last year. Ended up bailing due to lack of choices on things like color and the long wait.

It’s not often that all of us + large dog are all going the same place at the same time so it still makes more sense just to take 2 cars.

PL71 Enthusiast
PL71 Enthusiast
9 months ago

The lighting in the pictures makes it look like someone put on 1″ wheel spacers all around.

Greensoul
Greensoul
9 months ago

Another strange forced looking restyle, it didn’t work on the Sorento and it doesn’t play well here either IMHO. I like Kia’s but their awful trend of putting the rear turn indicators down low in the bumper and not eye level should have stopped before it ever began! I despise being behind them in bumper to bumper traffic.

Elons Backdoor Musk
Elons Backdoor Musk
9 months ago

I can’t say enough about my Carnival. We’ve done a lot more roadtrips as a family since we’ve got it.

It’s eats up the highway miles and there’s just so much room.

If this keep the same 3500 lb tow rating I could see myself trading up to this.

Andrew Wyman
Andrew Wyman
9 months ago

I’ve been saving this article until my day slowed down. I really like the look of the Carnival, and the hybrid is definitely what Kia needed. The mpg for the standard version is poor and those new numbers will definitely make this compete with the Sienna.

But for me, I really want a PHEV Pacifica competitor. They are the only van in that category, but I don’t think it would take much to knock them off the top there. Kia already has the drivetrain technology. It is the combo that makes me the most excited.

Manwich Sandwich
Manwich Sandwich
9 months ago

I’m glad they’re offering a hybrid option… but would prefer if they went the all-hybrid route like Toyota.

Any word on the tow rating of the Carnival hybrid? The Sienna can still tow 3500 lbs. And for some reason, the Pacifica hybrid has a 0 lb tow rating which I think is ridiculous.

GreatFallsGreen
GreatFallsGreen
9 months ago

Other models with the same hybrid powertrain – like Sportage, Sorento, Santa Fe – are rated for 2000 lbs with trailer brakes, so I could see the same for the Carnival hybrid. That would be in line with other models, the V6 Carnival and the 2.5T Sorento are up to 3500 lbs with trailer brakes (same for Santa Fe except the the XRT is up to 4500 lbs).

World24
World24
9 months ago

You can still get the Sienna in FWD as a hybrid?

Cranberry
Cranberry
9 months ago
Reply to  World24

Hybrid only, AWD optional so theoretically yes

Taargus Taargus
Taargus Taargus
9 months ago

This is very very very very very appealing to me. I have MAJOR issues with Kia right now though, so I will be monitoring this powertrain’s reputation from behind a houseplant, Spaghett-style, until my trust can be restored.

Not sure if that’s possible.

Grey alien in a beige sedan
Grey alien in a beige sedan
9 months ago

Spaghett! The reference makes me want to now go binge all of the T&E (ASGJ) eps again.

Carbon Fiber Sasquatch
Carbon Fiber Sasquatch
9 months ago

I feel the same way about the Elantra N

Healpop
Healpop
9 months ago

Oh f. If this was available last fall it probably would have been our choice over the Odyssey we ended up with.

Younork
Younork
9 months ago
Reply to  Healpop

Purely out of curiosity, why did you not choose the Sienna?

Healpop
Healpop
9 months ago
Reply to  Younork

Price, availability, interior quality/features. The interior felt cheap (my wife particularly hated the fake wood center console) and we thought it isn’t as well suited to small children as the others. But the first 2 reasons were the biggest hurdles – we would have had to pay something like $8k more and wait 9 months to get the Sienna we were looking at vs. the Honda we ended up with off the lot, and the Sienna would have less features.

I’d be willing to pay a few thousand dollar premium for a hybrid, but with the higher MSRP and the dealer markups that are still prevalent around here on Toyota hybrids it just didn’t make sense. I’d hope this hybrid Carnival would solve that problem, though I admit it’s rolling the dice more than getting a Toyota.

Rex
Rex
9 months ago
Reply to  Healpop

That’s exactly what we did. Couldn’t get our hands on a Carnival, won’t drive a Chrysler product, and the Sienna was just too damn ugly, the most expensive, and also impossible to find. We got an Odyssey, which has been perfectly cromulent.

Healpop
Healpop
9 months ago
Reply to  Rex

Yep, that’s pretty much how it went for us too. Given that the Odyssey is still the best selling minivan even though it’s ancient I’m guessing it’s the conclusion reached by a lot of buyers. The Odyssey isn’t the far and away best option, but it wins on the most important things.

I said at the time my ideal van would have the powertrain of the Sienna, the interior layout/features of the Odyssey, and the tech of Carnival. A hybrid Carnival would get a lot closer to that idea.

Bjorn A. Payne Diaz
Bjorn A. Payne Diaz
9 months ago

Calling a Kia the best is a disservice to consumer’s everywhere. It may be the best driving new van, but it will be the worst driving used van in short order. Assuming it’s financially viable to keep on the road, meanwhile Honda’s with J series V6s go for 300k+ all day every day. And no, before all you Honda haters come out, Honda hasn’t had systemic, catastrophic transmission failures in over a decade, pushing two decades really. Yeah yeah, one of your crack-whore girlfriends will have bought a 10 owner 2010 odyssey for your baby and the transmission grenaded at the drive through cig store, and that can happen to anyone in any clapped out vehicle.

Mr. Fusion
Mr. Fusion
9 months ago

Honda owners are like, “Please don’t take our side.”

And no, before all you Honda haters come out, Honda hasn’t had systemic, catastrophic transmission failures in over a decade

So they’re just having random, intermittent catastrophic transmission failures instead? You’re right, that’s much better!

source: Edmunds owner reviews of late-model Hondas

Last edited 9 months ago by Mr. Fusion
Bjorn A. Payne Diaz
Bjorn A. Payne Diaz
9 months ago
Reply to  Mr. Fusion

Ah yes. Unsourced reviews from random internet strangers is totally accurate reliability data.

Captain Muppet
Captain Muppet
9 months ago

You realise that to everyone else you’re a random internet stranger who just claimed the transmissions were reliable based on no verifiable data?

Bjorn A. Payne Diaz
Bjorn A. Payne Diaz
9 months ago
Reply to  Captain Muppet

Yes, that’s the paradox. Internet reviews and comments are useless for reliability data. Pointing that out doesn’t mean I’m right. It means don’t believe internet reviews and go get your own evidence/

I personally know Honda tranny’s aren’t an issue anymore, but I’m not about to go dox myself to prove some internet troglodyte wrong.

Nsane In The MembraNe
Nsane In The MembraNe
9 months ago

What even is this comment? It started as standard JDM Bro nonsense and turned into hating women and poor people? Could you not? Thanks 🙂

Bjorn A. Payne Diaz
Bjorn A. Payne Diaz
9 months ago

How about YOU don’t tell what people to do.

Taargus Taargus
Taargus Taargus
9 months ago

Well, that escalated quickly!

Bjorn A. Payne Diaz
Bjorn A. Payne Diaz
9 months ago

It’s way more fun to start the straw man arguments people will come with than to let them bring them on their own. Plus it saves me time.

Marteau
Marteau
9 months ago

It’s all in the username, and it checks out.

Strangek
Strangek
9 months ago

Wow! This guy has opinions! About minivans!

Bjorn A. Payne Diaz
Bjorn A. Payne Diaz
9 months ago
Reply to  Strangek

Eh. I just hate Hyundai’s with a passion.

DialMforMiata
DialMforMiata
9 months ago

Huh. Seems like you’d be more of a Nissan fan.

Bjorn A. Payne Diaz
Bjorn A. Payne Diaz
9 months ago
Reply to  DialMforMiata

What’s that supposed to mean?

Madewithgenuineparts
Madewithgenuineparts
9 months ago

I’d personally rather have a 36 mpg Sienna that’ll also do 300k miles and was designed this decade, rather than spending the same money to have a brand new 10 year old Odyssey, but that’s just me.

As a matter of fact, I personally would likely take the Kia and the Chrysler (and spend my savings on an extended warranty or something) before the Honda. Hondas are not well built enough these days, and big Hondas have never been well built enough, to intentionally choose the worst designed product in the segment.

Jason Bentley
Jason Bentley
9 months ago

No idea what you’re talking about, Pilots, Ridgelines, and Odysseys have always been built well after the transmission issues from the 1st gen Odyssey. 1st gen Ridgelines/Pilots regularly go past 300k miles with original drivetrain. The only thing you can complain about is they all get absolutely dismal fuel economy for being a V6.

Bjorn A. Payne Diaz
Bjorn A. Payne Diaz
9 months ago
Reply to  Jason Bentley

Thank for covering this aspect of his post. I didn’t have it in me…

Bjorn A. Payne Diaz
Bjorn A. Payne Diaz
9 months ago

I’d personally rather have a 36 mpg Sienna that’ll also do 300k miles and was designed this decade, rather than spending the same money to have a brand new 10 year old Odyssey, but that’s just me.

I agree.

But some people just don’t want hybrids. My comment was more about saying a Kia is the best option. To be fair and accurate the current Odyssey came out in 2017 as a 2018 model.

As a matter of fact, I personally would likely take the Kia and the Chrysler (and spend my savings on an extended warranty or something) before the Honda. Hondas are not well built enough these days, and big Hondas have never been well built enough, to intentionally choose the worst designed product in the segment.

Well, the data says your wrong. According to Edmunds, there is no savings at Chrysler and Kia in buying new. You certainly have some opinions on the matter but the data says your wrong. Every mechanic I have ever met says Chrysler’s and Kia’s are built cheaper than Honda/Toyota. Sure the Honda might not have quilted seats and memory foam padded armrests, but that’s not build quality, that’s just features which no one should care about. They should care about running costs.

https://www.edmunds.com/car-comparisons/?veh1=402010873&veh2=402000227&veh3=402010973&veh4=401989174

Over 5 years 15k miles according to Edmunds (link above):

A 2024 Carnival Costs 77 cents per mile, a 2024 Pacifica Costs 74 cents per mile, a 2024 Odyssey Costs 64 cents per mile, and a 2024 Sienna costs 64 cents per mile.

The Odyssey ties the Hybrid Sienna. That’s pretty impressive when you consider every year it’s in the hole $4400 on fuel alone. Again, running costs should matter more than anything, but it obviously doesn’t to some. So, whatever. But, people need to read the data.

Greensoul
Greensoul
9 months ago

Your right about the tranny. Now your Honda will just literally punch you in the face with its defective airbag.

Bjorn A. Payne Diaz
Bjorn A. Payne Diaz
9 months ago
Reply to  Greensoul

I think you should go look up who is all impacted by the Takata airbag recall and report back. That’s your homework. Due at midnight.

Greensoul
Greensoul
9 months ago

There are so many other cars involved in the Takata recall, along with Hondas. You did mean due by midnight somewhere around March 30th, right?

Bjorn A. Payne Diaz
Bjorn A. Payne Diaz
9 months ago
Reply to  Greensoul

That’s the point. What does Takata’s failure have to do with Honda’s quality if Takata’s failure impacted 90% of the market?

Honda is not the issue here, man.

Bjorn A. Payne Diaz
Bjorn A. Payne Diaz
9 months ago
Reply to  Greensoul

HOLD THE PHONE. I see in another comment you own a Kia and the insurance doubled. And you wanna rag on Honda for a market wide supplier quality issue? When Kia quality is so poor it made your insurance double?

Greensoul
Greensoul
9 months ago

My previous Soul and current one has been trouble free. 180k issue free miles on the ’11 before getting a new one. I have no issues with Hondas. I’ve had 5 Civics over my lifetime. I had an Element before, replaced it with the first Soul. Insurance on current Soul came back down to normal after the recall was completed on it.

Last edited 9 months ago by Greensoul
Mr. Fusion
Mr. Fusion
9 months ago

Serious question: Can you get any Kia insured at a reasonable rate, or at all? It was my understanding that the ignition scandal had caused insurance rates for Kias to skyrocket, and some insurers refused coverage altogether.

(Only a relatively small number of models were affected by the ignition fiasco, but it was causing thieves to break into anything with a Kia badge.)

Cranberry
Cranberry
9 months ago
Reply to  Mr. Fusion

Yes but it is widely dependent on year, trim, area, company, etc. I would not expect abnormally elevated insurance for a 2022+ redesign but it stands to reason if they cut corners in immobilizes and fixed it, what else did they skimp on? (and we won’t know for a bit)

A Nonymous
A Nonymous
9 months ago
Reply to  Mr. Fusion

I had no issues whatsoever insuring our brand new KIA last May. The rate was quite good actually. I asked them to double-check because it was so low.

Greensoul
Greensoul
9 months ago
Reply to  Mr. Fusion

Mine went up on my Soul last year, almost doubled. After I submitted proof the recall had been done on it, my rates went down a bit over 40% on my recent renewal.

Huja Shaw
Huja Shaw
9 months ago

Nice but walking into a Kia dealership is a hard no.

Dogisbadob
Dogisbadob
9 months ago

Too bad they’re not using the 2.5 non-turbo, which will also be replacing the 1.5T on the 2025 K5

GreatFallsGreen
GreatFallsGreen
9 months ago
Reply to  Dogisbadob

I don’t think they have the 2.5 paired as a hybrid in anything, but it seems like they are aligning the 1.6T as the hybrid powertrain overall and maybe why the Sonata/K5 dropped it in favor of the NA 2.5 (which K5 didn’t offer at all before). Doesn’t account for the 1.6T Seltos/Kona though, and the Sonata hybrid uses the NA 2.0. On that note, I am surprised the K5 didn’t add a hybrid variant either for 2025, I guess they feel they’re covered in that pricepoint with the Niro and the base Sportage hybrid which is less than an equivalent Tucson hybrid.

JDE
JDE
9 months ago

The big question is how long lived are the Kia/Hyundai 1.6 turbo motors? I hear some class action lawsuit level horror stories with regard to the 10 year old or so 2.0 turbo motors. The Settlement was in the Billions as I recall. This is why I tend to be wary of the small displacement turbo motors in general though. the Trax/Encore 1.4/1.5 turbo motors (also Korean I believe) have a bad reputation, as does the Ecoboost 4’s with regard to the water jacket and head seals in #2 or #3 cylinders or then the Nano Ecoboost 6’s with valves dropping and OIl leaks causing fires.

I am probably too cautious, but I feel like if I was shopping a Honda VS Kia, the simple, basic and reliable NA V6 regardless of actual power output would be hard to look past. I do see the possible benefit of a hybrid I suppose, but again that is just another layer of complexity to worry about.

Needles Balloon
Needles Balloon
9 months ago
Reply to  JDE

You might be thinking of the Hyundai/Kia Theta II engines, which are known to throw bearings at random with no warning or way to prevent it. Both Turbo and N/A versions of the engine family are affected AFAIK.

Cranberry
Cranberry
9 months ago
Reply to  JDE

It’s unclear. They couldn’t build a solidly reliable GDI 4 cylinder for a decade and the question is whether they’ve improved enough now. I’d rather shell out for a Toyota hybrid anyway. Buy once, cry once. (and while HyunKia have a rock solid 6-speed auto, I rather have the simplicity of the eCVT in Toyota/Fords.

Drive By Commenter
Drive By Commenter
9 months ago
Reply to  JDE

Small turbo motors work well for highway use where the turbo is loafing along or at a steady amount of boost. Spiking the boost all the time like city driving is harder on everything. A turbo hybrid seems good since it smooths out the spikes with electric torque. Less wear on the ICE bits. At least in theory.

MDMK
MDMK
9 months ago
Reply to  JDE

The 1.6T Gammas are largely free of the 2.0T and 2.4L Theta engine issues and are known only to experience the typical GDI engine issues. It’s too early to judge the H/K 2.5 Smartstream engines but the most consistent negative comments from reviewers are about 2.5L is terribly underpowered for their CUVs.

Jason Bentley
Jason Bentley
9 months ago
Reply to  MDMK

My friend has one of those new basic Santa Cruz and honestly, for being like $29k and AWD, the engine is perfectly adequate. Sure it’s a little loud and needs more revs, but decent enough as a DD. I hope it stays reliable for him as his former 2015 Sportage ate a motor @ 75k miles and was out of a car for 3 months before he got a new free motor.

Maymar
Maymar
9 months ago

I feel like a mild Luddite for saying this, but 1.6L and a hybrid sounds fine for the Sportage or if Kia saw the light and dusted off the Rondo, but in a modern maxivan? The Sienna’s 2.5 sounds like minimum adequacy for that size of vehicle, even if 240hp also sounds adequate.

Pat Rich
Pat Rich
9 months ago
Reply to  Maymar

Its going to be enough torque to get you around, but you are going to really hear and feel the fuel getting gulped down on long climbs with a full load. Once that hybrid traction battery is depleted, that 1.6 is going to be hating life.

Speedway Sammy
Speedway Sammy
9 months ago
Reply to  Pat Rich

Must be laying on a LOT of turbo boost. Hopefully they’ve learned some mechanical durability lessons from the Theta series problems.

Needles Balloon
Needles Balloon
9 months ago
Reply to  Speedway Sammy

I predict it’ll have a similar amount of boost that a typical ~1.5T would use nowadays. 242hp total – 72hp e-motor = at least 170hp from the 1.6T, and the average compact crossover comes with this size of engine making 180hp. Hopefully the Theta problems were expensive enough for them to care.

Mr. Fusion
Mr. Fusion
9 months ago
Reply to  Pat Rich

Reviews of the Sienna have said the same thing. That unboosted 4-cylinder is absolutely wheezing when the battery is depleted and you are carrying a big load and/or climbing a grade.

Needles Balloon
Needles Balloon
9 months ago
Reply to  Maymar

It’s probably just ok for around town use and as commuter on the freeway, but the I’d choose the V6 if hauling around people stuff on the freeway often. Also a 1.6T is roughly equivalent to a 2.5L N/A, but it’ll have no match for the Sienna’s 41% thermal efficiency.

D-dub
D-dub
9 months ago

the hybrid option will probably start around $38k before delivery, to keep it slightly under the 2024 Toyota Sienna

They really ought to beat the Sienna’s pricing by more than $1K. If I was cross shopping a Kia vs a Toyota in the same segment, it would take more than $1K to make me choose the Kia.

TheHairyNug
TheHairyNug
9 months ago
Reply to  D-dub

it probably has more features for the price, as is the Kia/Hyundai way

Mr. Fusion
Mr. Fusion
9 months ago
Reply to  D-dub

[Edit: comment was not meant to be a reply, system won’t let us delete…sorry all]

Last edited 9 months ago by Mr. Fusion
Needles Balloon
Needles Balloon
9 months ago
Reply to  D-dub

Siennas still haven’t recovered from supply shortages, and they’re very hard to find at all, let alone at MSRP. They could price it the same as a Sienna and still be very competitive for the next year or so.

DialMforMiata
DialMforMiata
9 months ago

My takeaway from this article is that David Tracy has never seen Battlestar Galactica.

D-dub
D-dub
9 months ago
Reply to  DialMforMiata

So say we all.

Fourmotioneer
Fourmotioneer
9 months ago

YEEEEAH BUDDY

PresterJohn
PresterJohn
9 months ago

I’m glad the bit about the real world fuel economy was included. Everything I’ve seen indicates this 1.6T + hybrid setup they use everywhere underperforms its EPA ratings especially on the highway.

In any case I’m sure it does better than the V6 and this is a welcome addition to their lineup.

Bizness Comma Nunya
Bizness Comma Nunya
9 months ago
Reply to  PresterJohn

I’ve had 2 products with this drivetrain. Saw owners complaining on forums/reddit about MPG, but here were my real world results. I used both vehicles to commute 50-60 miles each day, 75-85mph, with adaptive cruise set most of the way.

Cold weather (real winter, not CA) : 31-34 mpg
Mild-Hot weather : 35mpg-40mpg

First was a Tucson AWD Hybrid Blue trim (died via tree limb), second is a Santa Fe AWD Hybrid Blue trim.

I feel like most of the people complaining didn’t want to admit, or didn’t realise that it is, in fact, how they drive.

Honestly…the hyundai hybrid system with the 1.6t is fun to drive. More fun than a toyota hybrid, although I will admit the toyota system is a bit more efficient and probably more reliable long-term.

GreatFallsGreen
GreatFallsGreen
9 months ago

I’ve seen mixed on the 1.6T hybrid real-world numbers, so that’s good to hear. We have an older Niro in the family that has typically outperformed its EPA numbers on the highway (or should I say, matched that of the trims with smaller wheels and a higher rating). Even though the MPG scandal was 10+ years ago, another negative news piece isn’t something they need right now.

GreatFallsGreen
GreatFallsGreen
9 months ago

And in other good news, it looks like the turn signals have maybe moved off the bumper and into the main taillamp assembly! The clear section in the bumpers looks smaller so it would only be the reverse lights. Let’s hope anyway.

Pricing estimate seems right on the money, a hybrid Sportage runs about $2-3k over the standard engine, less of a premium on the Sorento. A 2024 Carnival LXS is $37k with destination, so that would edge it in just under 40k.

Seems all the more likely then that they’ll add the hybrid system to the Palisade and/or Telluride before long to match Toyota.

Jatco Xtronic CVT
Jatco Xtronic CVT
9 months ago

Turn signals in the bumper should be illegal and I will die on this hill

Bizness Comma Nunya
Bizness Comma Nunya
9 months ago

I will die on that hill alongside you. I own a Hyundai/Kia product with that design, and it’s one of the very few things I don’t like about the car.

GreatFallsGreen
GreatFallsGreen
9 months ago

Yup, I full expected them to not change that since other H/K products have kept bumper signals in a facelift (like the Forte), but the updated Carnival bumper looks to be a reverse light + reflector and the taillights themselves are larger now, so seems promising.

Mark Tucker
Mark Tucker
9 months ago

And this is why I can’t write car news. I am completely incapable of having an opinion about this thing. It exists entirely outside my universe, like TGI Fridays or Matchbox 20. It simply is, and I neither like nor dislike it, and this is probably the only time I’ll even acknowledge it.

What are we talking about again? Some sort of van?

Doctor Nine
Doctor Nine
9 months ago
Reply to  Mark Tucker

We are talking about inexpensive transporation, for a family on a budget, who desires to buy something new, yet not feel as though they are driving around in a Redwings penalty box.

Bizness Comma Nunya
Bizness Comma Nunya
9 months ago
Reply to  Mark Tucker

Everyone feels that way, until they own a good van or minivan. Then they fall in love.

Mr. Fusion
Mr. Fusion
9 months ago
Reply to  Mark Tucker

Minivan hate is so 20th century.

Huja Shaw
Huja Shaw
9 months ago
Reply to  Mr. Fusion

If Mazda rebooted the MPV/Mazda5 with a plug-in hybrid, it’s be at the top of my list.

Bizness Comma Nunya
Bizness Comma Nunya
9 months ago
Reply to  Mr. Fusion

Idris Elba lived in an Astro van on the streets of NJ/NYC. He claims to still want one, he loved that van.

I think we can all move on from saying anything bad about minivans.

Mark Tucker
Mark Tucker
9 months ago
Reply to  Mr. Fusion

Who said anything about hate? I just said I can’t think of anything to say about it (or the overwhelming majority of new cars, for that matter) one way or another. I actually quite like minivans, and I think they’re a great solution for a lot of people. I was simply acknowledging the fact that I don’t have the capacity to write about a new one as “news.” Just trying to be funny. Apparently it didn’t work.

Bizness Comma Nunya
Bizness Comma Nunya
9 months ago

God dammit… can they please just make this AWD with the hybrid drivetrain?

The Sienna hybrid is awesome, but you can’t easily remove the 2nd row, which is what I require so that I can use it for camping trips, which means I won’t get the Sienna.

Nsane In The MembraNe
Nsane In The MembraNe
9 months ago

*Everyone liked that*

Can we start a petition for The Autopian to get one of these as a long term press car/official site mascot? Other than a manual brown wagon I’m not sure if there’s anything we’ll all agree on more than a hybrid minivan

Pat Rich
Pat Rich
9 months ago

Damn Kia, are you sure you’ve E-named E-Enough E-systems to make sure people understand that its E-Electric?

Angrycat Meowmeow
Angrycat Meowmeow
9 months ago
Reply to  Pat Rich

How did they pass up E-Vasive Handling Assist?

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