Home » The Auto Industry Is Sleeping On Puddle Light Technology

The Auto Industry Is Sleeping On Puddle Light Technology

Puddle Top
ADVERTISEMENT

I’ve noticed a new group showing up at my fourth-favorite taillight bar, the Crimson Candle, and the members of this group seem to be part of a small and relatively new clique in the taillight community: puddle-light fetishists, known in the community as Puddle Peddlers, or just “puddlers.” While not strictly taillight-related, puddlers are focused on cars that use “puddle lights,” and, as that is part of the vehicular lighting spectrum, were welcomed at the taillight bar. I can’t say I enjoyed their company, but what they were about got me thinking.

I guess first I should explain just what the hell “puddle lights” are, in case you’re somehow unaware. A puddle light is mostly just done for fun, for brand identity, and just to add a bit of drama to the act of entering and exiting your car, especially at night. Essentially, puddle lights are little projector-type lights, usually mounted on the underside of the side-view mirror.

Vidframe Min Top
Vidframe Min Bottom

The light pattern these lights cast can vary anywhere from a simple literal puddle of light to shaped logos and even, in some cases, actual animations. Here’s a couple of examples, on a Rivian and a Mach-e:

See? Those are puddle lights! Little projections, on the ground. Now, the puddlers at the Crimson Candle were very enthusiastic about their puddle lights, and wouldn’t leave me alone until they showed me all of their puddle lights on their Minis and Lincolns and whatever, and while I appreciated their enthusiasm, I still felt that these lights were a bit frivolous.

ADVERTISEMENT

Now, don’t get me wrong – I adore frivolity; I’ve sort of made a career on that, if I’m honest. But taillights are working lights, and there seems to be a lot of untapped useful potential in puddle lights, potential that, so far, most of the auto industry has been sleeping on.

Maybe not all, of course; Audi, for example, has some extremely advanced “digital matrix lights” that do a lot of this sort of projection for safety and communication work, as you can see in this video:

As these are headlight-based light systems, these are illegal in America, which is why US-market Audis do not have these advanced safety features or fun animations. I have no idea why the US is so backwards when it comes to lighting regulations, but we kind of always have been, and I’m not going to fight this fight now.

No, instead I have some ideas that can leverage the possibilities of puddle lamps in non-headlamp contexts, which could mean these would be street-legal even here in America. I think there are two primary applications of puddle lamps that could genuinely provide some real safety benefits.

ADVERTISEMENT

First, we can once again look at the current common use of puddle lamp tech:

Puddles Currentuse

Okay, let’s look at what else could be done with essentially this same basic tech: projector lamps mounted in side mirror housings. With only some minimal adjustments to projection angle and maybe intensity, it should be possible to use very close to existing hardware to have puddle-enhanced turn indicators:

Puddle Indicators

For nighttime highway driving, this could provide some real, tangible safety advantages by not just indicating the direction of a turn – or, in this case, a lane change, but also by marking the rough area the car is intending to occupy after the turn/lane change.

ADVERTISEMENT

On a busy, fast-moving highway, a driver may not notice the car in the lane next to them signaling, but I bet they sure as hell will see that patch of orange light on the road in front of them, and will be ready to make room for the car that will soon be filling that space.

Perhaps the illuminated area should be projected a bit ahead of the car? That may work even better. Still, same basic principle. This has the most benefits for lane change contexts, but certainly can’t hurt visibility for pretty much any turn, generally.

Puddle Brakedistance

Okay, this next one would require new puddle lamp projectors to be installed at the front and rear of the car, but I think that’ll be worth it. Here’s what I’m thinking: as you drive, projector lamps on the front of the car project onto the road guidelines to show, roughly, your safe braking distance.

So, when you’re going slower, there’s a shorter warning area projected, and as speed increases, more and more distance is shown – at least, as far as the lights can reasonably project, which, if the Audi system is any indicator, could be quite far.

ADVERTISEMENT

These forward-facing projections would be amber and not part of the headlamp system, so should be legal, likely falling under the same categorization as foglamps or driving lights. Even if the full braking distance couldn’t be entirely illuminated, what is shown should be enough to at least remind people how long it takes to stop at speed, which is always helpful.

At the rear, why not include a projected brake light onto the pavement behind the car? It can’t hurt, right? A nice red STOP image on the ground behind your car can only help to get people’s attention and keep them from smacking into you when you’re coming to a stop.

That’s the beauty of the taillight community: all the various subgroups and sub-fetishes can combine and put their fascinations into the roiling stew of ideas that is always cooking in a healthy taillight culture community, and sometimes those ideas can actually be something of value to everyone, not just weirdos like those puddlers.

Relatedbar

Let’s Look At The Taillights Used By One Of The Worst Cars Of All Time

This Is Why Lotus Excel Taillights Get Filthy And Moldy (And Another Weird Fact About The Lotus Excel)

This Massive Field Of Taillights Makes For An Amazing Taillight Quiz – And A Taillight Mystery!

ADVERTISEMENT
Share on facebook
Facebook
Share on whatsapp
WhatsApp
Share on twitter
Twitter
Share on linkedin
LinkedIn
Share on reddit
Reddit
Subscribe
Notify of
59 Comments
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
James Mason
James Mason
1 day ago

I have no idea why the US is so backwards when it comes to lighting regulations, but we kind of always have been, and I’m not going to fight this fight now.

Probably because in America, people will be using these to project “FJB” or dicks onto things, and we certainly cannot have THAT.

Balloondoggle
Balloondoggle
1 day ago
Reply to  James Mason

I’d set mine to show “Fuck Donnie Dorko”. Apologies to Jake Gyllenhaal.

James Mason
James Mason
1 day ago
Reply to  Balloondoggle

Not just 30 seconds ago a coworker was talking about Donnie Darko. Strange day…

Parsko
Parsko
1 day ago

I would assume the taillight bar has a small interactive workbench where the different patrons could mock up their ideas realtime so they can be discussed? It would be helpful to brainstorm ideas, then come back the next day to see what you did the night before (while drunk, obviously). Eventually there are going to be some good ideas, like this one.

(think of it like a RC car workbench with various incandecent and LED light sources that can be retrofitted to the blow moulded shells of the RC car bodies)

MikeInTheWoods
MikeInTheWoods
1 day ago

One Lantern Lager with these guys and Jason becomes a puddle pusher.

Actually, while entertaining, it’s a fantastic idea too. Perhaps an aftermarket side business for the Autopian? You could be like JC Whitney, but of just aftermarket lighting.

Morgan Thomas
Morgan Thomas
1 day ago

Not sure how common this is, but I have started seeing a lot of forklifts using lights to project onto the ground around them a line defining a ‘safety box’ – basically an outline of the zone around the forklift that is unsafe for pedestrians.

Maryland J
Maryland J
1 day ago

I’ve already seen something similar in China. Not sure how legal they are over there, but there’s after market kits you can install which project a “safety distance” red line behind the car.

While I like the indicator idea, I doubt it would work for its intended audience. Any car rapidly approaching from the blind spot is too far ahead to whatever is projected on the ground. Unless they had a front camera, or a cab forward of the front axle, it would be hard to spot.

Other concern is light blindness. We already have arguments that current LEDs are blinding drivers. Now imagine driving uphill on a wet road, and having all of these new lights shining back at you.

Is Travis
Is Travis
1 day ago

They’re awesome. Wife has them on her new BMW, mine only has basic ass lights when the doors are open like a pleb.

aSAABforever
aSAABforever
1 day ago

I would like to point out that Puddle Lights come from humble, working-light beginnings. All the way back to my SAAB 9000 had puddle lights in the bottoms of the doors. Proper, simple lights, to illuminate the ground at night when the door was opened as you exited the car to help you avoid…. Puddles.

Jason Christopher
Jason Christopher
1 day ago

I thought this might be an April Fool’s, but as I read on…genius.

David Frisby
David Frisby
1 day ago

Wow, just yesterday I came across a breakdown truck on a blind bend, attending a car. Thankfully I was going the other direction, but I had the thought of using some kind of beam to throw a warning light onto the ground at a distance behind the truck.
My thoughts did turn to how would you avoid blinding drivers coming up behind as they drive into the beam but there must be a way…

Ana Osato
Ana Osato
1 day ago

This is a stupid idea for a problem that doesn’t exist, mate. Sorry to put it so bluntly.
I’m sure VW will pick it up.

Framed
Framed
1 day ago
Reply to  Ana Osato

VW will have a single button to control all these new lights, with a toggle to switch which lights are controlled by the button

Oldhusky
Oldhusky
1 day ago
Reply to  Ana Osato

You seem to be lost, friend. Where can we direct you to?

1978fiatspyderfan
1978fiatspyderfan
1 day ago

Just a children’s bat signal

Eggsalad
Eggsalad
1 day ago

The side view mirror is a dumb spot for something called a “puddle light”. They should be mounted into the horizontal bottom of the door so you can see if you’re about to step into an actual puddle when you exit your car.

I don't hate manual transmissions
I don't hate manual transmissions
1 day ago
Reply to  Eggsalad

The ones on my RAV4 light up as we approach with the key fob. I like it because I can see the puddle or ice before I get to the car.

When exiting, I’ve usually paid some attention to where I’m parking so I’m typically not surprised when I get out of the car.

To me it’s more valuable to have the extra lighting as I approach, as the ground conditions may have changed since I parked. As always, to each their own.

I do like the red reflectors on the doors, that make use of an approaching vehicle’s headlights to warn the other driver the car ahead has an open door. I have vague recollection of being in a GM vehicle (Caddy or Olds?) that had that feature, probably back in the mid ’70s. This is a feature I’d love to see make a comeback.

JunkerDave
JunkerDave
1 day ago

I also like the door reflectors (don’t remember what cars had them). So I stick reflector tape on the trailing edge of my doors to provide that effect. It’s not as effective as a plastic reflector, but it should help. (I put yellow reflector tape on the front of my side mirrors, too, but at this point it’s pretty much rotted away and I need to replace it when it stops snowing.)

Reasonable Pushrod
Reasonable Pushrod
1 day ago
Reply to  Eggsalad

This is how the Mazda CX-90 puddle lights work.

Michael Beranek
Michael Beranek
1 day ago

Great ideas, but… A busy road filled with these would look like Blade Runner.

Jason Christopher
Jason Christopher
1 day ago

…and? Just swerve around all the yellow and red ones. It’ll be like F-Zero! Nobody ever wrecked on F-Zero!

Balloondoggle
Balloondoggle
1 day ago

Is that a bad thing?

Captain Avatar
Captain Avatar
1 day ago

I’m sorry, but having driven in Europe, those headlights that are constantly doing stuff in are an annoyance to other drivers.

If your coming at me on B-road at night, and your lights appear to be flickering to me, the opposing driver, its a distraction I don’t need.

Auto low/high beams? Fine. You never really need high beams unless you are driving very late or really out in the middle of nowhere.

But lights on the pavement in front of me? No. My headlight will probabl cancel it out anyway…or make it look vaguely pink?

LED’s are already too ****ing bright, blinding, and distracting when they are static. Adding more function will be worse.

Last edited 1 day ago by Captain Avatar
Twobox Designgineer
Twobox Designgineer
1 day ago

Re the front braking distance lighting: unfortunately, I don’t think it’s feasible.

How do you expect this to interact with your headlamp illumination? I think if you can see the yellow blobs despite your low beams projecting onto the same area, then your low beams are too weak.Even neglecting #1, the distance calculations would require not only taking into account vehicle speed, and vehicle capabilities (not even getting into driver capabilities), it requires LiDAR ranging to constantly monitor concavity/convexity of the road. Otherwise, at the top of a hill your braking distance projection is infinity, and near the bottom it is projected too short. (Oh yeah, braking distance reduces on in cline and increases on a decline, too. Cue the level sensors negotiating with the LiDAR.)

Last edited 1 day ago by Twobox Designgineer
Trevlington
Trevlington
1 day ago

In London there were hire bikes with puddle lights, projecting little green bike symbols on the ground in front of them. A number of times I was nearly flattened, looking distractedly at the green bike on the ground before I realised where it had come from and why it was there and spotting the bike itself

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
1 day ago

One burst of EMP and boom, boom out go the lights. We need something that can survive a nuclear blast not just project air tattoos on the ground. No telling who might wish us ill as long as the Dork Lard rules the land. Althoooooough, a puddle light that projects the Bat signal would be cool as shit …

RataTejas
RataTejas
1 day ago

I think the growing Global Forklift Warning Light industry mobsters might be *beep*beep*ing into the Crimson Candle for a “chat”. There may be more puddles than just the lights if those lift guys get their forks into you.

Andy Individual
Andy Individual
1 day ago

This is up there with “we can send a person to the moon, but we can’t…”

How about just some decent trunk/hatch area lighting? Or, for shits and giggles, headlights that actually do something close to what we expect them to?

Last edited 1 day ago by Andy Individual
El Barto
El Barto
1 day ago

I added two strips of white LEDs under the rear shelf in the trunk of my sedan 10 years ago and I can confirm it’s been a great upgrade for not a lot of money.

Ignatius J. Reilly
Ignatius J. Reilly
1 day ago

Please don’t add more random light into the environment. There are enough flashing colored lights and/or screens out there distracting people and making things unpleasant. It’s just an arms race of lighting in which nobody should engage. More variations in signals that will confuse people and cause accidents.

Cyko9
Cyko9
1 day ago

Maybe it’s my aging eyes, but I can’t handle more LEDs in the nightscape. And I’m not crazy about the safe breaking distance adjustable beam. In theory, it’s neat, but in practice, the road would look like a rave.

I do love all the gifs for this article though! Every taillight article needs animated images.

Ignatius J. Reilly
Ignatius J. Reilly
1 day ago
Reply to  Cyko9

The article is excellent to read! I just think more LED and more distractions is a very bad path to follow. “Was that my puddle light or a light reflected in a puddle?”

Hoonicus
Hoonicus
1 day ago
Reply to  Cyko9

About a month ago, I was driving during a rain storm, later than I usually plan to drive, on a highway that had the left lane merge right, with concrete barriers with reflectors and flashing lights, and a new tow truck with too bright LED flashing warning lights in the right lane ahead. Dark, wet conditions cause confusing reflections. While I momentarily thought the lane change puddle had merit, No, please don’t.

OttosPhotos
OttosPhotos
1 day ago

Yup, just what we need, more bright flashing LEDs.

Might be helpful for self-driving cars tho, if we can standardize on the signals (of course, the US will use red for lane changes and turns, while the rest of the world uses amber).

Lally Singh
Lally Singh
1 day ago

This isn’t the /worst/ Torch-take I’ve seen to lighting.

AssMatt
AssMatt
1 day ago

“lamps on the front of the car project onto the road guidelines to show, roughly, your safe braking distance”

This would be radical; I can’t tell if nobody here knows a safe follow distance, or if they just think they have good reflexes.

If nothing else, this could lead to less people cutting me off–if they know my car doesn’t have time to stop, maybe they won’t test my reaction time.

Last edited 1 day ago by AssMatt
Howie
Howie
1 day ago
Reply to  AssMatt

We have a friend who comes from CT. She was driving when my wife suggested (I95, we are in MA) she was following a little close at 75, she remarked “It’s a whole car length”. Our friend doesn’t project confidence when driving……

AssMatt
AssMatt
1 day ago
Reply to  Howie

She sounds damned confident!
Connecticut sounds like the way LA was described to me ages ago: “bumper to bumper at 85.”

Hoonicus
Hoonicus
1 day ago
Reply to  Howie

Per 10 mph. ?

Cerberus
Cerberus
1 day ago
Reply to  Howie

I always think of this scene from Lost Highway, which I’m pretty sure was just Lynch writing in a personal rant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkQ5Ks0nZEw

JunkerDave
JunkerDave
1 day ago
Reply to  Howie

Dunno if it’s still true, but used to be in Chicago leaving a whole empty car-length in front of you on the expressway was signaling your permission for other drivers to move into it. Driving was very aggressive, but also very predictable, so it mostly worked. (I believed the unpredictable ones had been beaten to death with jack handles. Maybe things changed when jacks stopped having proper handles.)

Surprise me……
Surprise me……
1 day ago

So the potential lawsuits for the braking distance one would make it unusable in the US but other countries it would be great. I think the more interesting one would be to project an animate light show similar to the trains in Japan where they do short animations as you go through long tunnels. I’m not able to find it but simple stick figure animations to fun safety items.

M SV
M SV
1 day ago

The Chinese already have projectors fitted to the front of several models. They are always ahead of the curve now. They can project all sorts of things like free west tawian or ads for energy drinks.

Tekamul
Tekamul
1 day ago

You fool, don’t give them any ideas. You know where this actually goes, ads!! Advertising revenue is the new god.
Don’t worry, you don’t get that money though, it goes to Ford, or Audi, etc (with AWS or Google somehow scraping 40%).
Don’t like it? Subscribe to the puddle-free package for $4.95 a month. Don’t try to cheap out and just cover them, you’ll fail inspection, and it’s a primary ticket offense.

Michael Beranek
Michael Beranek
1 day ago
Reply to  Tekamul

Ads FROM THE MANUFACTURER
“Sign up for heated seats now!”
“Cruise control sale- only $14.99 a month! Till Friday only.”
“Add that special touch with turn signals” (BMW only)

Beceen
Beceen
7 hours ago

Delete puddle lights: $1500 (Porsche only)

Hotdoughnutsnow
Hotdoughnutsnow
1 day ago
Reply to  Tekamul

Why just ads? Why can’t I have my social media feeds projected there, to give me something to read while driving late at night when it’s boring out? Honk twice to like and subscribe! And don’t forget to smash that bell!

59
0
Would love your thoughts, please comment.x
()
x