Dodge is trying to do something difficult right now. It’s trying to establish a new era of electric muscle right as multiple manufacturers are cooling their enthusiasm for EVs. Meanwhile, its dealers are still trying to shift a whole bunch of old Dodge Chargers that are getting increasingly long in the tooth. It’s an awkward situation which you can likely take advantage of. Don’t worry, I won’t tell your mother.
The stats from CarEdge tell a sorry tale. Just 989 Dodge Chargers have been sold in the last 45 days, while 6,857 remain on sale. That adds up to around 312 days of supply—basically, there are enough Dodge Chargers sitting around to last well into 2026. Some of these are even 2023 models which should have been gone long ago.
This means dealers are sick of these cars languishing on the lots, and you can get yourself a nice Dodge Charger on the cheap. V6, V8, it doesn’t matter—there are deals to be had for old ponies right across the land!
Let’s start with the cheapest of the lot—the Charger SXTs. Buy one of these, and you’ll get yourself a 3.6-liter Pentastar V6 under the hood. They’ve got a fussy oil filter housing, but they make decent power. They’re good for 300 horsepower, and the EPA says your V6 Charger will allegedly hit 30 mpg on the highway.
Head over to LAX Dodge in California, and you can get yourself a Charger SXT in white for just $24,900. That’s a full $11,425 off MSRP—no surprise given it’s been on sale since October 2023. It’s the most anonymous-looking car you can find, so much so that it almost draws more attention. Meanwhile, if you prefer orange, you can hit up Autonation Dodge in Houston. They’ve got one listed for $24,995—over $13,000 off the $38,010 MSRP. You’ll find similar deals in Virginia and Louisiana, too.
V6 muscle, is there such a thing? If so, it can be had for under $30,000, all day.
“But Lewinberg!” you cry. “I lust for the cylinders, eight!” That’s no problem, for you’re very much in luck. You’ll want to consider the Dodge Charger R/T, which comes with the 5.7-liter Hemi V8. Good for 370 horsepower, it’ll give you an exhaust note that you think commands respect from other motorists.
You can get a Charger R/T awful cheap if you head down to City Dodge in Wisconsin. They’ll hook you up for $35,990—that’s $14,550 under sticker. Again, no surprise given this 2023 model has been hanging around for 469 days now. Over at Northland Dodge in Michigan, they’ve had one for 608 days, so they’ll slash a full $16,015 off the MSRP. You’ll find compelling but lesser deals in California and Florida too.
If your lusts are for ever greater horsepower, consider the Scat Pack. 6.4-liters of Hemi fury will net you 485 horsepower, more than enough to let you smoke the tires obnoxiously at will.
There are a handful of deals on these, but they’re thinner on the ground. Bergey’s Dodge in Pennsylvania will do you a silver one for $60,890, over $8,000 under sticker. It looks like it’s still got the pink splitter guard, too, which contrasts nicely with the grey paint. Kunes Dodge in Illinois has one, too, and they’re wiping over $11,000 off the original MSRP of $73,470. You can score some cheap examples in Maryland and Wisconsin, too.
The cheapest I found, though, was over at Auto Gallery in Georgia. You’re paying $49,995 for 485 horsepower. Good deal? You be the judge.
Just don’t get your hopes up at finding a bargain-basement Hellcat out there. The most desirable Chargers were all snapped up long ago, and the halo models still hold their value. Particularly now, given they represent the end of an era.
Ultimately, we’re at a transitional moment in the history of the Dodge Charger. The seventh-generation model lasted 12 long years, officially dying out for the 2023 model year. And yet, you can still find them for sale all over the country—with prices dropping off harder the older they get. Dodge still has the cheapest muscle car on sale, but for how much longer, it remains to be seen.
Image credits: Cars.com via screenshot, Dodge
Many of these cars will likely have a few miles on them and the warranty clock has already started ticking.
About a year ago the dealers we offered some significant “back end” money to title/register these cars and put 600 +/- miles on them. This starts the warranty clock thereby limiting Didge’s exposure.
50 grand for 485 ho would have been a great deal before the EV revolution. Now it sounds meh. Which is more evidence everything has way too much hp these days.
The same dealers that did market adjustments because they knew what they had. Some of these are destin to be confusing new sales 5 calendar years after their model year.
Ignoring the big stuff like the make/model owner image and not-quite-brand-new condition, getting a full-size sedan with 300 non-turbo horses for under $30k seems to answer the ‘affordable car’ question, doesn’t it? Full warranty, and parts for decades afterwards, too.
If you are comfortable in one and can stand having meh gas mileage.
I’ve had Charger SXTs as rentals a couple times. Power is good, handling is good. But I couldn’t find a way to be comfortable. Hard to explain. It looks like a nice roomy car, but it somehow isn’t. It’s like a compact/big car. Some things are too far away, some are too close.
But for me, the big thing was the ingress, egress side. If I had the seat at a position that I could see over the dash comfortably, I couldn’t get in and out without banging my noggin. It’s like the door is just a bit too small or in the wrong place or whatever. It would be a thing of lower the seat and send it back to get out and then have the seat in the wrong place when I got back in.
I know, First World Problems, but still if I’m spending money on a car, I want it like when I buy shoes, where I can slip in and out of them easily and feel 100% comfortable in it.
Which is why I think the dealership model will never completely die. We HAVE to try on cars, just like shoes. Some cars fit, some don’t. And for me, the Charger doesn’t fit.
You say First World Problem, I saw car review that actually matters. I can live without horsepower, but I can’t live with that sort of day-in-day-out annoyance. Well, I can, but only for as long as it takes me to find another car and unload the annoying one.
But I’m me and you’re you. It’s doubtful you are shaped like me. For example, take my afore mentioned noggin. The safety guy at work had to custom order a hard hat for it.
Sit in a car see how it drives and see if you like it. I like Rentals because I get to live with a car for a couple of days.
My recent rentals…
Arcadia. Handles better than expected, feels smaller than it is. Shifter is stupid. Lots of exterior for not much interior space, but overall acceptable.
Rav4. If you want a vehicle that is so easy to drive and don’t care that it’s boring as white bread, there you go. I actually like then as rentals because I have other stuff to do on trips normally.
Pacifica PHEV. PHEV is not what it is cracked up to be. Good driving van, but I’m used to driving a van. Tons of space for everything, but for what I was doing, the battery was empty all the time. Struggled with electronics learning curve
Camry SE. That was a fun ride once I figured out how to turn off the stupid lane departure thing where it kept trying to steer wrong.
Pacifica non PHEV. See Pacifica, but with a paint can shaker start/stop at every traffic light. Could be disabled, but I would forget to do so until my eyeballs started rattling.
Voyager. Liked it better than the Pacifica. I mean it’s the same damn van, but there’s about half as much crap to break on it. Also the lesser infotainment system was easier to figure out.
Malibu LS. Shocking. Not as good as the Camry, but pretty close. The screen moved a tiny bit when you pushed it and the seat fabric appeared to be made by Blair, but it was a smooth ride and not far from the Camry at all. Didn’t even notice the stop/start thing until day 4 of driving it, when I noticed the tach needle move. If it was 30% cheaper than a Camry, I might consider it.. oh, wait.
Charger. you see my review. Couldn’t get comfortable in it and the gas mileage was as bad for me as the Pacifica/Voyager that had a TON more room inside, yet felt smaller outside when driving them.
i rented a charge and found it super comfertable and relaxing. but i do understand how it is when your behind just does NOT agree with a seat. My mom had a 2016 Passet luxe tdi and it like .. hurt my butt. had to ride shotgun on a long car trip and could not get comfortable the entire time!
Ditto the Chrysler 300; saw anew 2023 300 with the V6 for about 25k at a dealer last month.
I seriously thought the 300 was discontinued pre-COVID.
Digging through Charger listings, the huge elephant in the room is that the EV Charger is nearly $20k off in some places!
Want a Scat Pack EV? Here’s one with $15k off sticker. Insanity!
And it is still almost $70k. Who is the market for this again?
oh 100%, that’s definitely Mercedes or BMW money for a Dodge.
The V6 makes 300HP?
The V8 only makes 70 more?
The Scat (I still can’t with that name) pack is how much!?
There is a huge difference in torque, which is what gets this big fella moving.
I’d be all over a V8 at if it were available at V6 prices.
Give it 6 months
Has there ever been a car more redneck and ghetto than the Charger? I think not.
I think someone forgot about the 80’s Camaro
I believe that particular model is called the Camero
Especially the Iron Duke.
V6 Challengers. All day long I see them with damaged bumpers, dented doors, dark as night tint and for some inexplicable reason no mufflers.. just awful.
Redneck? Pick a domestic full size truck. Ghetto? A clapped out Nissan Altima. Runner up awards to any 3rd owner large Buick sedan of the 2000’s or ‘05-‘10 2.7 V6 base model Chrysler 300.
Redneck and ghetto at the same time? You likely got the current winner there. Used to be 3rd and 4th gen V6 F-bodies. Nowadays it’s certainly rental lot spec late model V6 Charger/Challenger
I lost all interest at that sentence.
The Hellcat is a competent hood crawler, hooning machine, and street takeover God. Where else can some ghetto-dwelling thug with a 350 credit score get an “affordable”, poorly-built, woefully unbalanced, batshit insane vehicle capable of 200 mph that flew straight out from the depths of the abyss down-under, with which to outrun and even troll the cops with?
And no mention of the Demon either…
Hellcats are almost $20k off! Still a $75k vehicle though…
this sentence isnt so much a dogwhistle as it is a whole air raid siren. Jesus christ man
As a fellow ghetto dweller without the low credit score, I see locals driving these things in a totally reckless and avante garde manner, with not even tags or license plates present, on a frequent basis. The police know better than to even bother trying.
The chaos these cars generate is abominable to the normies, but I’m all for it. 707+ horsepower is quite something to have available for unskilled/untrained drivers with no concept of Newtonian physics to toy around with. It’s like the automotive equivalent of bringing a horde of unrestrained billygoats into a high-end grocery store or a Michelin 5-star restaurant.
It’s… AWESOME.
If the price is right on a good one, I may very well own one someday. While I don’t like how inefficient they are, I like what these cars stand for. I’d rather have a Demon, that being said. A lowly V6 or Scatpack won’t do.
The way you write is truly bizarre.
I’m bizarre. I own it instead of suppressing it. Hence the writing style. 🙂
I don’t care how few miles, or how few previous owners they’ve had, at 2 years old, they’re effectively used cars, even if all they’ve been doing is sitting on a dealer lot
Honestly I think they’re even worse at that point. Used cars have at least been driven around and broken in. Sitting around for years on end is terrible for ICE engines and I can’t imagine that a freaking Dodge dealership is making sure to start them up and run them periodically.
I would treat them as low mileage used cars. The only difference is that they still have full warranties. What’s worse is that we all know that cars sitting for years without being run can be worse than some usage. At what point are these considered “ran when parked”?
Resale value is dropping while the car is sitting waiting for sale, same as if you bought it straight off the transporter and parked it in your garage.
Hold up. You consider a 4 door v6 a “Muscle Car”? Really? Is it because it is RWD? So, now muscle car just means RWD v6? Or is it a muscle care because it can’t handle well? Or because it goes to the gym 5 days a week and drinks protein shakes?
To be fair, it is at least a V6 that produces more net hp than most V8 muscle cars of the ’60s ans ’70s.
But, then, so does the Camry, not really an achievement in the 2020s
That’s my issue, I can get a 4 door Camry with over 300hp. The R/T muscle car? OK. But not at $24900.
Clickbaity and bad form for an enthusiast website that should know better.
The Camry will prove more efficient and more reliable, and is the better bang for the buck. The inefficient, overweight, retrograde design of the V6 Charger entails a lot of sacrifices to get it.
Oh, yeah, I’d take the Camry. But I wouldn’t call it a muscle car. Especially not around these parts.
If I were to design the next Charger, it would be a smaller car than it is, with the 1999 Dodge Charger RT concept and Dodge Intrepid ESX2 as the basis points. It would be a 3,000-ish lb vehicle with a drag coefficient under 0.20 and lower/more narrow than the Chargers we have today. Still RWD of course, and that would include for the EV model and the base 4-cylinder model with a Neon SRT4 engine, while also having V8 Hemi and Hellcat models. It would blend the best of both economy cars and muscle cars, and do both roles better than the competition.
Base model might top out at 170+ mph and do 0-60 mph around 5 seconds, while getting upper 20s-ish mpg city and 50+ mpg highway. Sub-$25,000 MSRP, manual transmission option. Now put a Hellcat engine in it, and get low 20s mpg city and 35+ mpg highway, and with tall enough gearing, top out at 220+ mph. EV version would use under 0.20 kWh/mile to cruise 70 mph and could get acceptable range with a smallish sub-40 kWh battery, keeping costs and mass down.
Not anymore though. The last V6 Camry rolled off the line last year. All Camrys are now hybrids that make 232 horsepower max if you get it with electric AWD.
Besides, the V6 was only available on the highest trim levels for the last generation Camry, so it would actually be cheaper to buy one of these cheap Chargers instead.
Only 232? That’s totally reasonable, but also a little disappointing.
Even better. Any halfway decent EV can out-hustle most muscle cars of yore.
I’ve had those V6s as rentals a few times, they’re actually pretty good for the money. Full on muscle car? Maybe not, they can move though.
Nothing against the car. Just with calling it a “muscle car”. 300HP is the right amount of HP IMHO.
If you squint, it’s the (base) engine out of a full-size (pickup) in a midsized car (because the packaging is terrible), which is the traditional muscle car formula.
300hp was declared the “perfect” amount of hp…. somewhere. I can’t remember where.
And don’t forget, you also get the transmission from a rolls Royce…
You got me, I chuckled audibly.
That being said, I’d unironically consider a V6 AWD GT Charger. At that point you just have a really fun, fully loaded, 300hp, all-weather DD for around the price of a loaded Honda Civic.
Here’s one with $10k off sticker
Agreed. The V6 Charger and 300 were my favorite cars to find on the rental car lot for a long time. Big and comfy, decent power and mileage. Thought about buying one as a DD a few times. The last one I got as a rental in 2024 really was showing how dated this platform has gotten though.
Totally. These prices have really got me thinking…
Yes but I want a Challenger.
They really are great looking cars. I still get a little hit of serotonin every time I see one in a bright color and they came when I was in high school. I’ll just never get sick of them. A brand new bright green one with the leather interior and a 6 speed popped up for $35,000 freedom bucks near me a few months ago and I was mighty tempted.
I really like them in that F8 Green, it can look pretty different depending on lighting conditions, but it’s more of an emerald type color
I just rented one over a long weekend, and thought it wanted to kill me. I couldn’t see out of it, the lowly V6 spun the tires on wet pavement all the time, and the brake pedal was an immobile thing that suggested maybe slowing down if it felt like it.
It was a rental and yet you are somehow not surprised.
Don’t be gentle, it’s a rental
Also had the same rental spec and felt the same way as NewBalance. In addition, it was a pain in the ass to park due to visibility and size and the automatic climate control seemed to do whatever the hell it felt like doing regardless of the actual temperature in the car. I have a hard time believing that the retail spec cars would be any different. Really turned me off ever wanting to buy one.
On the other hand, my brother-in-law let me drive the manual Hellcat* he had for a while. It was so awesome I could probably overlook those shortcomings and live with the fact that my left leg would be twice the size of my right from working that clutch all the time.
*I think it was a Hellcat, but I’ve been told the Hellcat never came with a manual, so it may have been something else. It was still pretty badass.
Driven hard and put away wet. I rented one in 2019 but it was brand new. It was fantastic.
Holy shit, parking in Seattle with this huge thing you couldn’t see the edges of… and huge doors that swung so far. I’m glad I’m super mobile and can park at the end of the parking lot. I had no idea where the thing ended.
You could get a manual in the Challenger, just not the charger.
I’ve had the V6 Challenger and V6 Charger as rentals. Challenger looks cooler, but Charger could easily be lived with.
Hero!
My 70-year-old father is shopping for a V8 manual Challenger to relive the glory days, and I can’t wait to visit him this year.
Good for him.
I’ve seen three drug dealers that owned Challengers. Slick-looking cars they are. An all-black one would rule!
I’ve toyed with the idea of getting an RT for years. It seems like the perfect amount of power and gives you that wonderful V8 soundtrack. You can enjoy them on the street without risking your license and they don’t draw anywhere near as much attention as the big dog models.
That being said, this still seems too expensive. These cars are absurdly overpriced at sticker and even with these discounts I don’t think you’re getting THAT much car for your buck unless you only care about the V8…because that’s the only interesting thing about these. Underneath they’re 25 year old luxury barges.
The base interiors are rough too. What you’d get in something fun at a similar price point (GTI, CTR, you decide!) is usually going to be nicer, and by the time you kit an RT out like you’d actually want one (handling package, upgraded interior, etc). they’re well into the 40s after discounts…not to mention dealerships order these in the worst specs imaginable.
At least in my area almost all RTs have pretty much every appearance option available but none of the actual performance upgrades. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to want the Brembo brakes when you’re driving around a 4000+ pound land yacht.
These are also ridiculously easy to steal and a desirable target for thieves, so if you live in an urban area like me you’re really rolling the dice…and that doesn’t even take the type of image you’re going to be presenting into account either. Anyway I think these are cool but they’ve never quite added up for me. I’m optimistic that the new 5 door one with AWD and the straight 6 might connect the missing dots for me though!
I’m in a similar mindset, I might go for the 3 door though. I’m curious about the EV reliability though. Those might be sweet 2nd cars to pick up used if you got a place to charge them.
On paper I find the Hurricane 6 to be pretty compelling, and people that have driven it in the trucks have raved about how smooth and potent it is. It’s definitely been having some teething issues and naturally it will never be as trouble free as a big under stressed V8, but I’m optimistic that by the time I’d be looking at getting a new car it’ll be better sorted.
Slash I only drive 6-8,000 miles a year so the turbo longevity concerns don’t bother me as much. I’ll be interested to see what kind of fuel economy the Chargers get. I’m not expecting anything special but if they wind up in the mid 20s combined it’ll be a big win. Maybe they’ll even add their mild hybrid system? A man can dream….
Too often, people get so hung up on this variable to the point that they forget to give themselves joy, all in order to impress people who don’t know or care about them. The “need” to portray a certain image has ruined many lives and families and driven hundreds of millions of people into crippling debt. All for an image.
If the Charger makes you happy and you have the funds to justify it without compromising other important aspects of your life, why not?
I’m speaking as someone who consider themselves an environmentalist of sorts, drives an electric velomobile, and seriously would consider owning a Hellcat or Demon as a toy if the price is right.
That’s valid and learning how to care less about what other people think about you is a vital part of growing up. I just don’t personally think I could get past it in a daily. A Charger is part of pretty much every crime in DC that involves a car and I work primarily with inner city kids and trying to improve the systems that support them. I just wouldn’t feel great rolling up in a Charger when it’s probably the same thing the local dope man drives, you know?
If I lived and worked out in the sticks I’d be much more open to it. Like I said, they’re also ridiculously easy to steal and most of our offices are in the parts of town where folks need the most help…so staff cars get stolen with some regularity and a V8 Charger might as well have STEAL ME scribbled across the windshield.
But like I said, the upcoming straight 6 one does appeal to me and I’d imagine it’s going to be a bit more of an upmarket proposition than the old one because of how goddamn expensive everything is and the fact that between the Hurricane and all wheel drive the equipment is going to be a lot more advanced, so we shall see.
Call the dealership holding onto a 2023 R/T and offer $28,000 for it. That’s more reasonable for a car they can’t sell after 600 days on the lot. You will get a ton for bluster about they don’t make these anymore, waiting for the right buyer, the usual dealership bullshit. As day 700 on the lot rolls past send a happy 2nd birthday card to the dealership and reiterate that your offer stands.
The V6 versions of these remind me of the 4-cly ’82 Camaro my neighbor bought new. Folks in the neighborhood came around to take a look since it was a brand new design, and then there was a lot of awkward silence when they realized it had the same engine as my parent’s Citation.
I’ve had the v6 version as a rental a few times, and they aren’t terrible cars. With the V8 I can see how they would be anachronistically entertaining. For me, the base platform is just too bulky and numb to be much fun most of the time.
Those Scat packs are still way overpriced.
When the Hellcats came out in 2015 you could pick one up for 60K and when Scats came out they were around 40K…Fuck inflation.
Yeah, as much as I hate to admit it those Scat packs are pretty neat. I had no idea they were going for $60k, though, I thought they were more like $45k.
I think Covid did a number on ‘muscle car’ pricing. I bought my 2018 Camaro SS 1LE brand new for $40k. Sold it in 2021 for $42k.. It seemed like you couldn’t find one on a lot for under $50k when they were still being produced, and they’re still holding their value on the used market.
The widebody is a decent upgrade in terms of suspension, brakes, and looks. IIRC, it was originally like a $5,500 option when it first was available for 2020MY. So, the cheapest you could get a WB Scat was like $46k in 2020 I think. I was interested in them, but it was right when pricing went insane in 2022 & 2023 when Dodge announced they were the last V8 Chargers and dealers got ridiculous. Dealers obviously knew what they had because ones that stickered for like $51-$56k they placed them behind velvet ropes and were asking like $61k-$66k. I guess they forgot to take those ropes down, because at least two of my local dealers have the exact car I wanted that they wouldn’t let me test drive and insisted I was being crazy by not wanting to pay over sticker. Jokes on them, they are now listed for under MSRP.
I get it’s not the best car ever, but I still think they are really really cool. They drive really well so long as you don’t want some autocross go cart. But the price for them only works in the low $50s and under.
As recently as 2021 you could get a full-on SRT Charger – not just a scat pack – for under $40k. Friend’s brother bought one. I would have too if the 6 speed could be had with 4 doors.
No, you are right. When I was looking for a new fun car in 2018-2019. I came across a bunch around 40K. I ended up with a Mustang but it was very tempting.
I think if you buy the plain white six, other drivers will get out of your way because they’ll assume you’re law enforcement.
First thing I’d do is swap the alloys for steelies and chrome center caps
I owned a Camaro back when NC State Troopers bought a fleet of pursuit Camaros.
People will think you’re a cop for sure. However, IME they don’t get out of your way, they just go 5 mph below the speed limit and refuse to move over.
WOW, at those prices, I might be able to look past the age of the platform.
$24k is Chevy Trax price range.
The fact that they still have 2023 models indicates that these dealers were greedy assholes with excessively high ADM fees
And at US$25K, that’s still too high for a basic V6 one that is 2 years old. I recall pre-pandemic that there were basic V6 Chargers selling for CAD$25K here in Canada… and those ones weren’t two fucking years old.
If they want US$25K for a fucking 2023 model, then it has to have the V8. For those basic V6 examples that are 2 years old, they need to chop at least another $5000 off the price before I would consider it to be a good deal.
or that Chrysler stuffed all their dealers with inventory while raising the prices and removing incentives.
Yeah that didn’t help either.
Still overpriced IMO. Plus around where I’d live I’d have to deal with the stink that is being a Challenger owner who purchased it at 36% apr from a buy here pay here lot.
If I bought one, wouldn’t that also scream ‘cheapest muscle car owner’?
No. It means you got a good deal and the auto companies have been overcharging for this and every other vehicle. Besides, it’s not like the price you paid will be painted on the car for everyone to see.
It wasn’t *that* long ago that this was approximately the sticker price of the Scat Pack. $70K still codes to me as new Hellcat money, even if it hasn’t been for awhile.
A reasonably equipped RT is a mid to high 30s car for me and a 392 is a mid to high 40s car for me. I know inflation is a thing and whatnot but for some reason I just can’t get past the sticker prices from 10 years ago. That’s the range these make sense in for me.
I remember when I bought my SS in 2016 that Scat Packs were available for around the same money as even the discounted Chevy price (~$40K).
Considering they are much the same car now as then, I can’t see how $70K makes sense.
It doesn’t.
I love how these dealers raise the price just to lower it back down again a month or two later. What the heck are they thinking?
They’re trying to spur demand artificially.
If someone is eyeballing it at the low price, when they jack it up that person will think they missed out on a deal. Then the next time they cut it the window shopper becomes a serious buyer.
It’s a similar tactic that Amazon uses by listing the “savings” on products. Reality is that the sale price is the regular price but they inflate and slash the number to make you think you’re getting a deal.
Are you not aware of the practice of ficitious pricing? (Eg: an item retails at $5, but a specific retailer claims to be discounting from an $8 price not actually found on the market to drive sales?)
forbes.com/sites/camilomaldonado/2018/09/24/what-retailers-dont-want-you-to-know-about-sale-prices/
No I get that. But that practice involves “raising” the price, and then immediately “lowering” it to make it look like it’s on sale. These dealers, particularly the one with the price history shown at the end of the article, waited nearly three months to lower the price. That’s an additional 90 days of sitting on their lot at price no one was willing to pay prior to lowering it the first time. W.T.F.
it’s muddled in my head and I might be full of shit, but when I was buying in ’22 I saw a pattern similar to “ficititous pricing” where the dealer maintains an inflated price on a pedestrian model for a quarter or so, then “dumps” it at normal price at the end of a quarter.
I’m thinking this was similiar?