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The Corvette Showdown: 2001 C5 Z06 vs. 2007 C6 Z06

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They’ve let me out of my cage and I’m a feral beast ready to write! The haters kept me down yesterday and I was not able to bring you the shittiest boxes for a showdown (okay I just forgot, and now David hates me [Ed Note: I do not. Griffin is a gem. – DT]),  but I am here to rectify that mistake and give y’all what you want. No, what you need.

We begin with the results of yesterday’s SBSD:

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First and foremost: What the hell is a “Sophie’s Choice?” Is this me being too young again? [Ed Note: No clue. – DT]. I’ve never even met a Sophie; why would I choose her? [Ed Note: Guys, you can just Google things. HERE. Gawd. – Pete] Doesn’t matter, I’m gonna say that I stand with the people on this one. We need to torture Old David and have him rock with this old-school Kaiser truck. Military styling in a boxy body like that? I’m already in love. The Dakota is cute and all but this just ain’t even close for me (with all due disrespect):

Sophie's Vote

 

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Wanna know what else is disrespectful? Disgracing the sanctity of the column that is Shitbox Showdown by showing you something that is firmly established as the antithesis to Shitboxes; something that insists on being the premiere driving experience you can get in the U.S. — something that always earns your attention and affection, all without even trying. I’m, of course, talking about a Corvette.

2001 Chevrolet Corvette ZO6 – $24,000

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Engine/drivetrain:  5.7-liter V8 pushrod OHV, 6-speed manual, RWD

Location: Simi Valley, CA

Odometer reading: 88,000

Operational status: “Car is absolutely perfect”

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RAHHH [bald eagles dive bomb overhead] RAHHH! IT’S THE YEAR OF THE C5 BABY! From the mean streets of Bowling Green and into the meaner streets of Simi Valley comes the track attack, fat sacked, rattatat tat something else that rhymes front engine monster! RAHHH!

If you don’t know anything about the C5 generation, let me tell you all about it: The car actually has a 50/50 weight distribution (unlike my C6 which is an imperfect 51/49) and could quite easily reach 170mph+ if the litany of forum posts are to be believed. It also saw the introduction of the head-up display that became popular in the cars, but it also saw the introduction of the often maligned 1st-4th gear manual transmission lockout that was implemented for fuel economy reasons.

What’s really rad about the C5 is the fact that the popup-headlight machine was an absolute monster on tracks all across the world. It raced from ’99-’04 and notched itself a whopping 31 wins out of 55 races total, with 50 of those same 55 getting them podiums in general. The car even won the overall victory at the 2001 Rolex 24 at Daytona, beating all the prototype cars along the way. Sure, the racecar isn’t the same as the production car, but there’s still nothing cooler than a sports car with a rich and impressive racing heritage.

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Here’s James Pumphrey’s song about pop-up headlights if you’re into THAT kinda thing. This vehicle’s wheels look great, and to be honest, I’m only including that photo of the trunk because I’ve never seen how they open on a C5. It feels oddly small and like you can’t put anything back there. Am I reading into it too much? Is my sanity stretched too thin as I ooze love for the superior American motoring machine? I’m mush and I shall return to the earth one day.

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I dig the two-tone seats dripping with red, however, I think that same red looks pretty tacky on the lower panel. It’s a personal taste thing no doubt, but just my two cents! I’d also swap out that shifter knob because the stock one is pretty butt ugly but that’s not the owner’s fault, that’s on GM. In terms of flaws, the only thing I can really see on this bad boy is the roof’s clear coat, which the owner mentions in the listing. For $24,000, I’m not mad at this.

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2007 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Coupe – $44,995

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Engine/drivetrain:  7.0-liter LS7 V8 pushrod OHV, 6-speed manual, RWD

Location: Los Angeles, CA

Odometer reading: 43,868

Operational status: Doesn’t say explicitly, but it looks clean as hell.

ZO6 GOES VROOM BABY! I’m telling y’all, I was put in blog jail for threatening to talk about Corvettes here, but my love for the C6 shall overcome my oppressors. Even now, I write this from a burner phone I got in Tijuana so that DT can’t send his goons to get me. I’m gonna win this fight, and I’m gonna tell y’all about this frickin car.

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This here is a C6 Z06 and I can confirm, with firsthand knowledge, that these things ripppp. My dad, never one to let me have a nice thing of my own, bought a Z06 shortly after I got my base model C6, and he made sure to get one that’s an identical color just so that when we park next to each other, his is clearly the cooler of the two. But after driving that beauty, I forgave his blatant efforts to emasculate me because my lord that thing is something else.

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With a Z06: you take the already incredible C6 platform and make it track-ready. Up the displacement, make them bores larger, longer strokes, and you find yourself clocking 505 horses like it’s nothing. It has better aero, lighter components in several places, and a buttery smooth transmission that makes my base model feel like I’m sparring with Tyson the way I have to punch it into gear. Seriously, swapping between the two made mine feel like a brick in a wind tunnel.

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This model is painted in Atomic Orange Metallic and looks really clean. The Z06 also has a massive schnoz on the front end to help feed that hungry, hot engine that so desperately craves some ozone. I normally don’t like such busy wheels, but it honestly works pretty well on this one so I’m not mad!

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The interiors on these are funny because it’s so clearly old-GM and filled with plastic everywhere, but it’s not low-quality plastic that’ll break if you hit it too hard. Even with its plastics, it all feels nice. Old as hell, no doubt, very dated, definitely, but nice! 

And just to match our convo about the C5, let’s talk about the C6’s racing pedigree too: four LeMans wins. Fifty-one victories in its eight-year run in IMSA alone. It was a car so brisk on the track that many of its competitors straight up quit, with the ALMS series literally shutting down its class after everyone left. If that’s not an endorsement of its performance then what the hell is?! I’m sorry if I tout this car all the time but dammit I need people to know how much I love it!!!

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I won’t sit here and kid y’all: $45 large for a 17-year-old car is pretty ridiculous by any metric the way I see it. I hate the way folks treat everything like an investment, especially cars, because what do you mean you have a Ferrari you’ve put 2,000 miles on in 15 years? If you buy it, drive it. Stop being dumb and worrying about getting money back on it. It’s in that vain, I question if this price tag of $45,000 is worth it for the C6.

On the other hand, I get it. I’ve driven one, including on a track where I ripped it to nearly 130 mph on the front straight of Willow Springs. It’s an incredible car. But is it worth nearly twice the price of a ‘same spec’ C5 that has a nearly identical history of performance and pedigree attached to it? I don’t know. I have a soft spot for my generation, but not to the point where I’m brainwashed. I say C5. How about y’all?

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Bomber
Bomber
2 days ago

The answer is both. Without question. As much as I love the old school mechanical C5 and the coupe design, you cannot say no to the LS7 and it’s 500 ponies. While the C6 will continue to depreciate, it’s still gonna put a bigger smile on my face. That engine is simply magic. First thing to do in both though is put the seats from a C7 in them. They are both trash.

Robot Turds
Robot Turds
2 days ago

Unpopular opinion: Man these are fugly. Yes- I know these are great deals for someone just wants a car that goes fast and handles decently. The whole exterior on both look like cheap plastic. The interiors are worse. It comes to show just how far GM has gone from producing Rubbermaid-clad things to what they produce now- light years better.

Rippstik
Rippstik
2 days ago
Reply to  Robot Turds

Yes, but you kind of forgive that when you drive them.

Robot Turds
Robot Turds
2 days ago
Reply to  Rippstik

Yeah, I have no doubt they handle well. And people like them because they are comparatively cheap for what you get.

Comet_65cali
Comet_65cali
1 day ago
Reply to  Robot Turds

Eh the C5 looks bloated compared to the C6.

But then you’re not buying a Corvette for the looks, you’re buying it because you want bang-for-buck performance.

Aaronaut
Aaronaut
2 days ago

Fast, clean, well loved, and very expensive. Ah yes, two shitboxes!

Shooting Brake
Shooting Brake
2 days ago

Twice as much for the same car (even if it is incrementally better) just isn’t worth it. But I’ve seen plenty of C5 Z06s for similar money that are better than this one (no clear coat issues) and in real colors, like yellow!

Last edited 2 days ago by Shooting Brake
StillPlaysWithCars
StillPlaysWithCars
2 days ago
Reply to  Shooting Brake

My logic here too. I’m sure the C6 is better in some ways but not $20k better.

Shooting Brake
Shooting Brake
2 days ago

100%

Speedway Sammy
Speedway Sammy
2 days ago

Since you could probably negotiate this down to 40 grand and that only buys a mid size generic SUV these days, go with the 500 hp.

The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
2 days ago

It is great to see so much hate for pop up headlights in the comments section today. The Autopian commentariat clearly are an intelligent group.

While I hate the C5’s stupid pop up headlights, I think it is the better choice today. It has 98% of the performance of the C6 for 55% of the price. I don’t necessary want a sports car, but if I did, I would go for something like this C5.

StillPlaysWithCars
StillPlaysWithCars
2 days ago

I actually dig the pop-up headlights.

Skurdnin
Skurdnin
2 days ago

Yeah wtf I thought pop up headlights were universally loved (until you have to maintain them, at least)

Get Stoney
Get Stoney
2 days ago

For that kind of money, they better remove the silly sticker on the top of the windshield as part of the deal. It’s a pretty sweet ride, otherwise.

Which leads to something a nano-bit off subject here…If you are going to take the time to polish up the wheel of your car, frame the photo, make sure it’s a high-res picture and all that, why in the shit wouldn’t you take the time to have the emblem right-side up and level to the horizon?

I know there are bigger fish to fry in the world, but crooked wheel emblem pics fuel the OCD-ist in me’s ire at the sloppy.

Chronometric
Chronometric
2 days ago
Reply to  Get Stoney

I’m with you. I refuse to purchase any car without perpetually horizontal wheel logos.

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
2 days ago
Reply to  Chronometric

Wasn’t there a car that actually had its wheel logos floating in liquid like a spirit level and weighted so that when it came to a stop the logos were all perfectly aligned?

Geoff Buchholz
Geoff Buchholz
2 days ago
Reply to  Canopysaurus

Modern-day Rolls-Royces (beginning with the Phantom) have weighted wheel hubs so that the RR logo is always right-side up. Thank you, BMW.

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
2 days ago
Reply to  Geoff Buchholz

Cool

Captain Muppet
Captain Muppet
2 days ago

I love pop-up headlights (who doesn’t love more weight and drag?) and would feel a bit weird about the badge that says “SOS HP”. So the one with pop-ups I guess.

Either would be extremely rare over here.

Michael Beranek
Michael Beranek
2 days ago

Either one of these would land me in jail in about 4 seconds. Even a stock Corvette would only take about 7 seconds.
So I’ll take the C5, with a better-looking headlight arrangement and of course, with the Buick Century door handles.
The $21k I’ll save can go toward bail and lawyers.

Chronometric
Chronometric
2 days ago

C5 is a proven track weapon but the C6 is a real sports car (lean, powerful, and great handling). And the C6 is associated less with stereotypes my aging self is trying to avoid. C6 Z06 for me.

MEK
MEK
2 days ago

Sorry, but I’m firmly in the “Pop-Ups Suck” camp. I’ve played that game and didn’t enjoy it (headlights frozen closed at 6am… fun) and I don’t really think they look that good anyway. But more importantly, the C-5 just wasn’t that attractive of a car. A lumpy, under styled wedge with a huge ass. No thanks.

The C-6 wasn’t the most beautiful car by any means, but it was leaps and bounds over the C-5 (although it still has a big ass). Add the LS7 and a better interior into the mix and the choice is clear.

Mark Tucker
Mark Tucker
2 days ago

Fun fact: the noise you associate with bald eagles is actually a red-tailed hawk. Bald eagles are significantly less impressive sounding.

A. Barth
A. Barth
2 days ago
Reply to  Mark Tucker

Hey, there he is! I’m really looking forward to you being back in the Showdown hot seat.

TOSSABL
TOSSABL
2 days ago
Reply to  Mark Tucker

I heard that call while working on a roof recently. Looked around thinking my coworker was playing a video. Nope: actual hawk—and kinda made my day.

Droid
Droid
2 days ago
Reply to  Mark Tucker

have you heard an osprey?
they are the mile tyson of birds – a non-stop killing machine, with a high pitched squeaky voice

TheDrunkenWrench
TheDrunkenWrench
2 days ago

This is definitely a Sophie’s choice, as there’s a nearly endless list of cars I would plunk this cash down on first. But I’ll take the cheapest option, just had to make sure it wasn’t a slushbox.

SlowCarFast
SlowCarFast
2 days ago

Sophie’s choice would be if you personally restored both of them and one was going to be pimped to hell and then sent to the crusher.

Sheesh! It was a depressing movie, but also well-advertised!

Icouldntfindaclevername
Icouldntfindaclevername
2 days ago

The C5 has AZ plates being sold in CA. I wonder if it can’t pass smog?
I’ll take the C6

Grey alien in a beige sedan
Grey alien in a beige sedan
2 days ago

These really are some expensive shitboxes.

Frank Wrench
Frank Wrench
2 days ago

I’ve only ever been in a C2,3 and 4. Yeah, I’m old. It’s time to add the C5.

4jim
4jim
2 days ago

I love that color on the 2007 but the other one is $20K cheaper and can still go fast enough for legal roads.

Matt Sexton
Matt Sexton
2 days ago

Many years back I had the opportunity to do some track day instructing. My track car, then as now, is a 1980 Firebird. One of the kids I’m instructing is part of a father/son duo with a C6. Two laps in the passenger seat of that car, never mind how bad the kid drove it, was “goodness, this is how easy this is??? Why am I fighting with that old Firebird when this exists?”

I still use the old Firebird though because I’m stupid or poor, or possibly a combination of both. If you want to have fun on track just get a C6.

Ishkabibbel
Ishkabibbel
2 days ago

it also saw the introduction of the often maligned 1st-4th gear manual transmission lockout that was implemented for fuel economy reasons

Pedant here! The C5 did not introduce the Computer Aided Gear Selector (CAGS, or as more commonly known, skip-shift)! It’s unclear from some Googling if C4s had it, however, I owned a 4th gen (93-2002, mine was a ’96) Trans Am that did. Fortunately there are eliminator kits available for cheap.

V10omous
V10omous
2 days ago
Reply to  Ishkabibbel

I’m forced to believe that anyone whining about the skip shift doesn’t find the $20 for the kit and 5 minutes of install to be worth the $1000 gas guzzler tax savings or whatever it was.

It is pretty silly, but it’s so easy to defeat that only the very laziest people can’t manage it.

Chronometric
Chronometric
2 days ago
Reply to  Ishkabibbel

Stupid gimmicks like “skip-shift” chap my ass. I would seriously refuse to drive it until I defeated that piece of shit.

Ishkabibbel
Ishkabibbel
2 days ago
Reply to  Chronometric

I survived the 3 days between buying the car and sourcing the part. I was so busy driving in a spirited manner that it barely ever kicked in.

StillPlaysWithCars
StillPlaysWithCars
2 days ago
Reply to  Ishkabibbel

Can confirm that C4’s had it. My Dad had a ‘91 Vette with it. You don’t even need an eliminator kit technically, just unplug the gate. You’ll still have the annoying light but it means nothing.

V10omous
V10omous
2 days ago

That may be true for older cars but later ones do need the resistor to fool the computer.

ImissmyoldScout
ImissmyoldScout
2 days ago

Needed an “neither” option today. Seriously, I’ve shown a car at precisely one car show and the Corvette owners are the most annoying people there. Every stich of clothing they are wearing has the Corvette logo on it. Their lawn chairs are branded Corvette. The pop-up shade for them to sit under has the Corvette logo on it. And they are all old, fat, and bald. And they all talk about how their Corvette is the only one build on Tuesday the 12th of May in this shade of red with the whatever option package they have. Boring and insipid. I drive a bone stock base Cayman and it handles better and is more fun to drive. Plus it gets over 35 MPG on a road trip and compliments every time I pull into a gas station to fill it up. P.S. I may be old and fat, but I’m not bald.

V10omous
V10omous
2 days ago

Porsche driver calling another group of owners pretentious, can we get a temperature check from Hell please?

ImissmyoldScout
ImissmyoldScout
2 days ago
Reply to  V10omous

Love it! COTD right here!

Captain Muppet
Captain Muppet
2 days ago
Reply to  V10omous

Do Porsche owners weirdly over-pronounce the last e in Corvette too?

ImissmyoldScout
ImissmyoldScout
2 days ago
Reply to  Captain Muppet

Only after drinking real German beer.

4jim
4jim
2 days ago

People love community and having a culture and community they belong to. Yes they are annoying old men but mostly harmless.
Signed a Jeep Wrangler owner.

ImissmyoldScout
ImissmyoldScout
2 days ago
Reply to  4jim

My other vehicle is a Bronco, but I find Jeep owners to be just ducky!

Data
Data
2 days ago

I got that reference.

Robot Turds
Robot Turds
2 days ago

Yeah. I know where you’re coming from. But think about what the average life is for the average suburban-dwelling middle aged man. Usually pretty boring. Their car is probably the only somewhat exciting thing in their lives. And so of course they are going to be so happy to meet and talk to other bored suburban dwelling men and their coveted cars

4jim
4jim
2 days ago
Reply to  Robot Turds

Well said. The Corvette types seem to be getting ever older and I do not see the younger bored suburban men buying corvettes. they mostly have side by sides pick up trucks and fishing boats because their wives will not deal with them.

DialMforMiata
DialMforMiata
2 days ago

I dunno. You should see the Ferrari Club guys around here. Pretty much the Corvette guys but just add a zero to the end of everything.

Ignatius J. Reilly
Ignatius J. Reilly
2 days ago

The C5 is by far the ugliest generation of Corvette. It’s just a visually heavy lump with zero personality. It feel like a design from a driving game on PS2 that couldn’t afford to license anything from a real brand.

Ishkabibbel
Ishkabibbel
2 days ago

All those things may be true – but it’s also a performance bargain!!

Ignatius J. Reilly
Ignatius J. Reilly
2 days ago
Reply to  Ishkabibbel

If I were looking for a track car, the C5 would be at or near the top of my list. Great performance and I would never need to worry about rubbing a barrier.

Skurdnin
Skurdnin
2 days ago

It feel like a design from a driving game on PS2

This is why I love it

Michael Beranek
Michael Beranek
2 days ago

We couldn’t disagree more. I love the 5’s classic lumps, mostly because it evokes the 3s that were the coolest-looking car on the road when I was a kid.

Ignatius J. Reilly
Ignatius J. Reilly
2 days ago

The 3s were truly amazing designs that became immediate classics. They were bold, innovative, and blended dynamic curves with sharp edges in a way that made both elements far better than either alone.

The 5s have none of those qualities. They are neither curvy, nor edgy. They look like they were designed by a committee that started each workday by taking a valium. The C5s are so boring that they make the 3rd-generation Taurus look sporty. C5s are not just the nadir of Corvette design, they represent the worst of design from that era. It was a dumbed-down and flabby design that offered nothing new and subsisted on a dribble of tragically weak callbacks to earlier generations.

The C6 was more of a mia culpa that at least worked to correct the most glaring failures of the C5 by offering proportions that didn’t come across as a melted elephant seal sunning itself and creating a few edges and curves that were able to provide some degree of character.

The only reason I can imagine liking the C5 is out of an overactive sense of nostalgia for the late 90s or a debilitating fear of anything interesting. There ends my rant against terrible design.

Michael Beranek
Michael Beranek
2 days ago

OK, you’re entitled to that opinion. In my case, I am a fan of 90s/00s jellybeans, I’m not sure why but to me it’s the best-styled decade other than the 60s.
On the C6, the headlights just make my stomach turn. Looks like a Cavalier, or some kind of Daewoo. In fact, I’d rate both the C6 and C7 as my least-favorite Corvette generations of all, at least in terms of styling.
C3
C5
C2
C4
C1 (after ’57)
C8
C7
C6

Ignatius J. Reilly
Ignatius J. Reilly
2 days ago

What we like is subjective, for sure. Design, less so. Which is why companies hire designers.

C2: Completely its own thing that hasn’t been replicated.
C3: Amazing and unique follow up to the C2 that broke new ground.
C4: Not dramatic, but it still did its own thing and hit the mark for the era.
C1: Classic but not very interesting.
C6: Done well but didn’t break new ground.
C8: Meh at best. Wasted opportunity to be revolutionary like the C2, C3, C4.
C7: Messed up the C6 by just being tacky rather than interesting.
C5: The worst sin of a Corvette, boring and poorly proportioned.

The jellybean era had a couple of decent designs, the FD RX-7 (what the C5 Corvette wished it was) being one of them. The trouble with the jellybean design language, in general, is that it is defined by a lack of design. It is all about eliminating and smoothing over anything interesting.

Michael Beranek
Michael Beranek
2 days ago

Different eyes certainly see things differently.
At least we agree on the 7!

Last edited 2 days ago by Michael Beranek
Ignatius J. Reilly
Ignatius J. Reilly
2 days ago

Generally, our Corvette lists aren’t far apart except regarding C5 placement.

After 30 years of work in design, marketing, and product development, I have learned to never argue taste. People like things for a huge range of reasons that are theirs alone.

At the same time, designers need to be able to find frameworks and threads that hold designs together even as fashion trends change year after year.

Great design transcends considerations like era and fashion because it looks at a more foundational truth of how humans view the world around them. Good design acknowledges those truths but views them through a lens colored by the culture of its time. Bad design (PT Cruiser, HHR, most jellybean stuff) has no asperation beyond existence, so it tends to meekly steal a few superficial elements of better designs that came before.

I always look at the degree to which a design era leans into nostalgia as an easy way to judge its value. The late 90s to 2000s were lousy with nostalgia. The failure of designs of that era is, in my opinion, a big reason why everything is now CUVs. People stopped caring about design because they weren’t given anything to care about.

Michael Beranek
Michael Beranek
2 days ago

If you’re a designer, I can understand why you would see it that way.
But I’m an engineer, so I see function as a greater part of the equation. I look at the fins on a ’58 DeVille and all I see is silliness. I look at the fins on a ’98 DeVille and I see Cadillac’s heritage reflected in a new, modern form, plus it’s a great way to integrate the taillights.
I can’t deny that the far superior automotive engineering that came in the 90s with CAD/CAM and computer modelling is also tinting my views. On even the most beautiful car, I see the nuts and bolts underneath.

Ignatius J. Reilly
Ignatius J. Reilly
2 days ago

Finding beauty in the function is a huge part of the equation for sure. I think the stuff from the ’90s-2000s gets lost in the uncanny valley for me. They are neither honest about their underlying function nor are they interesting aesthetically.

The ’58 Deville is a parody of good design and cars of that era became iconic for being outrageous. I don’t like them but they at least did a thing.

The ’98 DeVille design does literally nothing. Its proportions are decent, but it is largely a generic box with a Cadillac badge. Simple enough to not offend but not so clean that it feels modern. It was a collection of cheap GM parts trying to appeal to people who wished they were back driving a ’74 DeVille while at the same time being embarrassed about it.

The entire era feels sad because it was the time when car makers had just given up and decided to produce largely generic junk and hope for the best.

The software of the era, for sure, had a lot to do with it as well. It was a time when designers were using software rather than using old-school methods, but the software was very, very limited when it came to producing complex designs. Great for mechanical stuff, terrible for anything artistic. The designs reflect that featureless middle ground.

That era for design is what the late 70s was for performance. The rules had changed, but the people trying to execute those rules hadn’t yet figured out what they were doing.

Last edited 2 days ago by Ignatius J. Reilly
SlowCarFast
SlowCarFast
2 days ago

The C5 came out in my peak car enthusiast years, and I never liked the styling. The rear looks terrible and fat to me, especially in the notchback, and I came to like the Testarossa rear end! Black hides more sins, so there is that going for today’s entry.

I always liked that the C6 is visually the smallest corvette, and I like the curved hatch glass. I recently looked for side-by-side images with the C7 and they aren’t much different size-wise, but the struts on the C7 hatch add visual bulk. The angles aren’t great, either. Not awful, but not great.

Can I get a C6 body on a C7 chassis and interior?

AlterId is disillusioned, but still hallucinating
AlterId is disillusioned, but still hallucinating
1 day ago

Whatcha gon’ do with all that junk
All that junk inside that trunk?
Whatcha gon’ do when I make you snort
Shake my ass inside them jorts?

Ignatius J. Reilly
Ignatius J. Reilly
2 days ago
Reply to  Griffin Riley

Agree. The C6 realized that the C5 had completely air-balled the attempt at C3 nostalgia. The C6 added in recognizable curves highlighted by sharp lines and creases that made those curves visible.

The C5 was an especially egregious failure because the C4 was a very successful design that was in most ways a clean slate and didn’t rely on lazy nostalgia. The C5 was a complete failure, the C6 found the plot, the C7 took the plot too far.

The C8 fails largely because it is worried about being an evolution in design language despite being the biggest revolution in engineering in Corvette’s history.

Ignatius J. Reilly
Ignatius J. Reilly
2 days ago
Reply to  Griffin Riley

I agree. I wish the C8 was better looking and that the design took advantage of the opportunity its engineering made possible.

SlowCarFast
SlowCarFast
2 days ago

This is a well written observation that I can’t disagree with.

Considering sales numbers, the C5 wins though, so a lot of people were fine with the design. Today’s comments also show a lot of C5 fans.

Ignatius J. Reilly
Ignatius J. Reilly
2 days ago
Reply to  SlowCarFast

The U.S. is an unquestionable example of how the quality of something has very little impact on its popularity. If anything, the correlation between quality and popularity is in deep negative territory.

StillPlaysWithCars
StillPlaysWithCars
2 days ago
Reply to  SlowCarFast

Eh, I’d argue that the economic factors of the late ‘90s factor HEAVILY into those sales figures. The C6 was released in ’05 and was replaced in ‘13. That pretty much spans the entire impact of the Great Recession.

Comet_65cali
Comet_65cali
1 day ago

C5 is meh, same with C4 into the 90s. I would say the C7 is just kind of this generation I know exists, but like the C3 it just kind of feels like a bookmark of continued production.

Like I saw a C8 Corvette, gun metal grey, spoiler and black-spoke rims and I thought, now there is a good looking brand new corvette.

Ask me about a C7, I can’t. Its like a Malaise cloud floating over this OKAY sort of vehicle, with no leaps or bounds. Like the ONLY reason I want a C7 is because it has a seven-speed manual and is that REALLY worth the price increase when I could get a more capable C6 corvette Z51/Z06/Z07(The champion Choice)/ Grandsport/ZR1.

Ignatius J. Reilly
Ignatius J. Reilly
1 day ago
Reply to  Comet_65cali

I give the C4 a bit of credit for its clear departure from the C3 and its clear vision of a clean design. It didn’t try to ape the style features of previous generations.

For me, the C8 looks like a mid-engined C7. The opportunity they had going to a mid-engine configuration was wasted, especially when there are mid-engined cars like the 458 that Ferrari used to make that model level desirable again.

The issue with the Corvette after the C4 is that Chevrolet got scared and conservative. They were more interested in not offending their potential customers than doing anything interesting.

V10omous
V10omous
2 days ago

Pop up headlights suck, the LS7 is awesome, easy choice even for 20 grand more.

Matt Sexton
Matt Sexton
2 days ago
Reply to  V10omous

Pop-ups rule. Fight me.

Signed, 3rd-gen Firebird owner.

V10omous
V10omous
2 days ago
Reply to  Matt Sexton

I’m willing to die on this hill alone if need be.

Signed, former Saturn coupe owner.

PaysOutAllNight
PaysOutAllNight
2 days ago
Reply to  V10omous

You’ll never be alone on that hill. Popups suck. Opel did them best, but they still sucked. They sucked on my 944, they sucked on my 928, and they worked perfectly but looked like shit on my Miata. Every popup Pontiac looks just plain stupid at night.

OK, I didn’t really own a 928, but they still suck there, too.

I don’t understand how anyone still likes them, now that headlights can be any shape and clear overlenses are a thing.

V10omous
V10omous
2 days ago

Every day on this very website I need to read Luddite-adjacent screeds about how every manufacturer is adding complication needlessly, that cars are more complex and harder to fix than ever, and “why can’t we go back to when cars were simpler”.

And then unironically read defenses of how adding pointless complication to headlights is awesome, actually.

Ignatius J. Reilly
Ignatius J. Reilly
1 day ago
Reply to  V10omous

Pop-ups were maybe worth it when standard sealed beams were the only option. There were limited options for a thin front edge otherwise.

Ignatius J. Reilly
Ignatius J. Reilly
1 day ago

Pop-ups in the Opel were fun. There’s nothing like grabbing what looks to be the parking brake and pulling a long cable that rolls the lights over.

Ishkabibbel
Ishkabibbel
2 days ago
Reply to  Matt Sexton

I had a ’96 Trans Am that would grind the motors when I bought it. I took them out, opened the casings, cleaned them out, turned the gears 1/4 turn, regreased them, and put them back.

I’ve been 50/50 on pops since.

Baltimore Paul
Baltimore Paul
2 days ago
Reply to  Ishkabibbel

As a former Fiero owner I can confirm

WK2JeepHdStreetGlide
WK2JeepHdStreetGlide
2 days ago
Reply to  Matt Sexton

My BIL had a 3rd gen Firebird when we were in high school. It’s amazing how fast he got at spinning the manual backup knobs with a little screw driver kept in the center console.

Baltimore Paul
Baltimore Paul
2 days ago

With my Fiero I discovered that a firm thump, with a fist, on the manual adjuster would make the pop-up work

UA6 Driver
UA6 Driver
2 days ago
Reply to  Matt Sexton

Pop-ups are the greatest thing ever. Hitting the headlight switch and watching them go up is wonderful.

Signed, former Fiero owner.

Chronometric
Chronometric
2 days ago
Reply to  V10omous

I own and love an NA Miata and I agree, pop-ups suck.

Musicman27
Musicman27
2 days ago

I always thought the C6 and C4 looked better than the C5. Gimme the clean C6 please.

Rad Barchetta
Rad Barchetta
2 days ago

2001 Chevrolet Corvette ZO6

2007 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Coupe

Wait, wait wait… is it Z-“letter O”-6? Or Z-“zero”-6? It never occurred to me before that it could be either and now I’m genuinely curious? Which one it the typo? Both? Neither? Did they switch between generations?

V10omous
V10omous
2 days ago
Reply to  Rad Barchetta

The digit is a zero, but pronounced “OH”

Michael Beranek
Michael Beranek
2 days ago
Reply to  V10omous

Like a Ford 302 “Five Point Oh”. For no apparent reason whatsoever.

Last edited 2 days ago by Michael Beranek
Chronometric
Chronometric
2 days ago

Zero has two syllables, Oh has one. Peeps be lazy.

Aaronaut
Aaronaut
2 days ago

And don’t even try to track the use of the hyphen from one gen to the next!

Baltimore Paul
Baltimore Paul
2 days ago
Reply to  V10omous

The pedant in me says “oh” is a letter. “Zero” is a number. Confusing “zero” and “oh” is like confusing two, too, and to or confusing their, there, and they’re.
Please, just don’t

Don’t get me started on 0 vs. O in typing

Michael Beranek
Michael Beranek
2 days ago
Reply to  Griffin Riley

GM has used so many RPO codes that they re-use RPO codes (like 3 different LT-1s).

Along with Martin, Dutch Gunderson, Lana and Sally Decker
Along with Martin, Dutch Gunderson, Lana and Sally Decker
2 days ago

C6 > C5, in every version, and it isn’t even close. Add to that LS7 goodness, and…

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