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The Lucid Gravity Is Technically The Greatest 3-Row SUV Ever, But I’m Worried It Will Flop

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“HOLY CRAP! How is this even possible?!” I yelled as Lucid’s head of vehicle dynamics, David Lickfold, threw his company’s first-ever SUV around California’s canyon roads at a speed that seemed simply impossible. “OH my, is that oversteer?!” I screamed as he carefully placed the 3-row EV’s nose into a turn and punched the accelerator on the way out, 828 horsepower and 909 lb-ft of torque rotating the car through the turn and in the process melting my brain. “How are we doing this in what is, essentially, a sliding door-less minivan?” I wondered. “This is madness!”

The Lucid Gravity may not look it, but it truly is madness; there’s never been a vehicle in the history of cars quite like it. That shouldn’t be a surprise, though, because Lucid, as a company, doesn’t build normal vehicles, it builds world-beaters. Just look at the Lucid Air, a vehicle that offers not only the most range of any EV sold in the U.S., but also happens to scorch the earth with sub-2-second 0-60 mph runs.

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In terms of performance, Lucid has left the Tesla Model S in its rearview mirror, and now the California-based, largely-Saudi Arabia-funded company is going to leave the Rivian R1S — California’s best-selling large luxury EV SUV — in it, too. Well, at least from a technology standpoint.

A Fast And Spacious 7-Passenger SUV That Handles Like A Sports Car And Goes 450 mi On A Charge

Let’s just get to the specs: The Lucid Gravity will drive 450 miles on a single charge, per the EPA’s rating. Yes, 450 miles out of a seven-passenger vehicle. And when I say seven-passenger, I don’t mean “five passenger plus two borderline-unusable seats in the rear,” I mean literally a seven adult-passenger vehicle.

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But a car’s range doesn’t tell the whole story; I recently drove a 141 kWh Rivian R1S that goes 410 miles on a charge, and that’s a taller vehicle with higher ground clearance and bigger tires. That may seem impressive, but shoving a big battery into a vehicle to get more range is anything but; Lucid itself refers to this concept as “dumb range.” The real skill — the “smart range” — comes when you make a vehicle capable of driving farther on less, and that’s exactly what Lucid did with the Gravity. The SUV can travel 40 miles farther than the Rivian R1S on a 20-ish kWh smaller battery, while still offering loads of interior volume.

Here, have a look at the Gravity’s side profile compared to competitors like the Rivian R1S (the green car; the red car is a Suburban, which has more cargo volume, but the rear passengers aren’t as comfortable, per Lucid):

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You’ll notice that the Gravity sits lower and actually has a significantly smaller frontal area (you can’t see the width, but per Lucid, it does). The Gravity is also more rounded off, with an impressive drag coefficient of just 0.24 (Lucid mentioned that its chief aerodynamicist came from Red Bull Racing) — that’s more than just a few counts lower than the Rivian’s.

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This might make you think: “Well, with a lower roof, there’s not going to be as much space inside,” but that’s the beauty of focusing on vehicle efficiency — it pays dividends ten times over. The aerodynamic Lucid Gravity may be low and sleek, but its resulting 3.6+ mi/kWh efficiency means the vehicle can have a smaller battery than the 2.85 mi/kWh Rivian, and a smaller battery takes up less space, which means more interior volume. It also means a lighter curb weight (over 800 pounds lighter, if I recall correctly), which pays handling and ride dividends. Then there’s charging speed (for a given charging rate you can add more miles of range in less time — Lucid promises 200 miles in 15 minutes), cost savings thanks to being able to make do with a smaller pack, and I can go on and on.

So we’ve now established that the Lucid Gravity is big, it’s efficient, and it makes insane amounts of power. But what’s it like in the twisties?

How Does It Drive?

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Let’s continue my introductory paragraph in which I’m being thrown around by Lucid’s head of vehicle dynamics, David Lickfold — an absolute surgeon behind the wheel of the Gravity. The way he tossed that thing through the canyons — hammering the accelerator to take the seven-row vehicle from zero to 60 mph in 3.4 seconds, turning in, dealing with a little understeer before oversteer rotated the car through the turns,  and smashing those excellent brakes with authority to enter each turn just right — it was pure poetry in motion, and it made me nearly vomit. Here’s me resisting my lunch slowly working its way up my esophagus:

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I myself had a chance to drive the Gravity through these twisty roads, and I thought it handled great, with little body roll when in Sprint Mode, strong brakes, absolutely monumental acceleration out of turns, and a generally solid sense of balance. I was especially impressed by its multitude of demeanors depending upon which drive mode the vehicle was in.

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I’ve driven lots of cars with “drive modes,” and plenty had adaptive damping. I don’t think any of them had a “triple valve” air spring with three different spring rates, which may be why I was so impressed by how well the Gravity’s air spring technology melded with its “infinite damping adjustment.” Lucid said it aimed to offer a Range Rover-like ride in the suspension’s smoothest setting and Porsche Cayenne/Aston Martin DBX-like handling in its stiffest setting.

In soft mode, I could barely feel anything as I piloted the vehicle over expansion joints and cracks in the road. But as soon as Lickfold helped me throw the car into a more dynamic setting (Sprint Mode), the vehicle tightened up, allowed a few more of the road’s imperfections into the cabin, and became significantly more precise in the corners. In fact, in its softest setting, the Gravity felt a bit underdamped over bumps, but once in a sportier mode, it became a different animal.

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I liked the squirkle steering wheel that allowed me to see the screen ahead, I liked the interior quality, and I thought the vehicle — aided perhaps by the excellent visibility or the four-wheel steering with its only 38-foot turning circle — felt a lot smaller than its interior volume would indicate.

In fact, let’s get into that interior a bit more, because it’s remarkable.

The Interior Space Is Humongous

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Look at the screenshot below of me sitting in the Lucid Gravity’s third row with plenty of legroom to spare, and of the second screenshot showing that even the roof offered enough height to clear my head. My cameraperson, Griffin, who is over six-foot, was also able to sit back there without issue. The Lucid Gravity’s third row is legit, even for adults.

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In the image below, you can see just how carefully Lucid built the vehicle around its powertrain and battery pack to ensure ample space for all occupants; note how the rear seat sits just above the rear drive unit, with the footwell just ahead:

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You’ll also see that there’s a deep well just aft of the rear drive unit/axle, and it’s there that the rear seats fold flat:

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Here’s a look at what that seat looks like folded:

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The second row’s folding function, though, is even more legit. With the press of a button, it goes from this:

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To this:

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To fully folded.

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The result is a gigantic area to load things:

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The downside is that the area is not perfectly flat, with the space aft of the second row featuring a deep well normally acting as the footwell for the rear seats when they’re not folded down.

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Lucid says it will offer something to make the floor completely flat for those interested in, say, camping in their car.

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Up front is an 8.1 cubic-foot trunk that can be optioned with a cushion, which I initially thought was wack since it takes up a bunch of space, but then immediately changed my mind about as soon as my arse hit the cushion. It really does feel like a supremely comfortable park bench, and I’d probably use it all the time.

 

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There are so many other storage areas I could show, like the deep center console (shown in the Instagram reel above), the glovebox (which I didn’t open because there’s no physical latch, just a button on the touchscreen), and two deep bins on the left and right side of the rear cargo floor:

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Here’s a look at how Lucid went about maximizing interior volume, from Lucid itself:

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The Cabin Tech Seems Extremely Cool

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So now that we’ve established that Lucid has built an extremely space-efficient, energy-efficient, dynamically-elite, insanely fast three-row SUV, it’s worth talking about what the cabin feels like. 

Lucid calls its designs “California Modern Interiors,” featuring all sorts of sustainable materials like walnut orchard waste-wood, fishing net waste (used for carpeting), recycled water bottles (for textile), and more. It comes in various colors, and the lighter one that I sat in was awesome — great vibes.

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Surrounding the driver is what Lucid calls the “Clearview Cockpit” consisting of a giant, single-piece 34-inch OLED display ahead of the driver and a tilted-back 12.6-incher off to the right. I’ve been a fan of such a setup since I used something similar in a Lincoln Nautilus, and I could imagine this setup becoming an industry standard before you know it. Having an upper-dash mounted screen lets you keep your eyes from venturing too far off the road ahead, and the screens allow for multitasking that can help one avoid spending too much time flipping through menus when you should be driving.

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Ahead of the driver is an optional Augmented Reality Head-Up Display (an “AR HUD”), which essentially “paints” the road ahead to help you understand not only what the car is seeing, but also what you should be doing. For example, if you arrive at a stop sign that the navigation wants you to turn left at, you will end up driving up to a big instruction arrow “painted” into the world ahead of you, right next to the stop sign. That arrow will ensure that you don’t miss your turn. I didn’t have a chance to test the system, but it seems supremely cool, in theory.

There’s also a Sanctuary Mode, which is there to “envelop[e] passengers in a cocoon of tranquility inspired by California’s natural wonders.”

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It seems like some pretty woo-woo hippy stuff, but hey, as someone who’s enjoyed attending a sound bath here in LA, I really can’t knock an in-car “multi-sensory immersion” that adjust lights, audio, massage seats, HVAC, and video screens to “coalesce into custom content experiences that offer a symphony of sensation, unlike anything else on the market.” I’m a Californian now, after all.

Lucid Engineered Its Way To A World-Beating SUV

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Lucid’s “compromise nothing” slogan is a hard mindset to take into the design of an SUV, a category of car that Lucid’s Sr. VP Derek Jenkins said right at the start of his presentation is inherently compromised.

He’s not wrong. Historically, if you wanted an off-road SUV or a high-performance SUV or a large SUV, you paid for it dearly with efficiency. Lucid, perhaps more than anything, hates the idea of making a vehicle less efficient than it can be, so this was a challenge.

Numerous times in their presentations, multiple Lucid representatives talked about “divergent attributes” and “opposite ideals” — and how The Gravity aimed to break the SUV mold by doing it all. In many ways, the team actually pulled it off, in part because of the inherent nature of EVs vs ICEs; in part because of great technology like air suspension and rear steering and adaptive damping; but also in large part due to Lucid’s fundamental obsessiveness with reducing Vehicle Demand Energy.

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The company built a powerful, nimble, spacious three-row SUV that is extremely efficient, and that simply has never happened before in automotive history — certainly not to this degree.

Lucid’s Chief Engineer Eric Bach told me that were three main enablers that allowed Lucid to do this. First, it’s the focus on minimizing powertrain size in order to maximize space; this is something that CEO Peter Rawlinson mentioned to me during my interview earlier this year, and the number of benefits of minimizing powertrain packaging is more than you might expect (Rawlinson mentioned reducing frontal area by allowing for a more optimized seating position made possible by reducing powertrain size). Packaging is a critical element in vehicle efficiency, and Lucid is extremely diligent about minimizing wasted space; the Gravity’s rear steering system, for example, doesn’t use a regular steering rack, but rather individual actuators to steer reach rear wheel; this gives the third-row passenger a bit of extra heel room, which prevents the need for any other changes (for example to the roof height) that could hurt the car’s efficiency.

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The second enabler, Bach told me, is just maximizing efficiency of both the powertrain itself but especially the vehicle’s overall aerodynamics (frontal area and Cd).

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Third, he mentioned the concept of “jelly-setting,” which is an analogy that I’ll admit I may not have fully understood. The way I interpreted it was that it was the concept of starting with the optimal passenger space and working from there instead of having various engineers’ packaging requirements (for their various components/systems) dictate what the passenger space ends up being. The way I interpreted that was essentially ensuring that you define optimal up front, and use that as a strict starting point that forces engineers to innovate.

Lucid also talked a lot about its simulation tools. These are a big deal if you want to optimize anything. It’s not just that simulation tools let you more carefully and quickly assess your designs, it’s that Lucid says it has validated its simulation tools to the point where their results match up almost perfectly to actual physical testing.

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This is a big deal in vehicle development, where knowledge is power; if you don’t know your simulation is accurate, you may have to build in an extra safety factor into your design to feel confident that it won’t fail, and that often results in unnecessary weight and cost. High-fidelity models are the key to maximum vehicle efficiency.

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The Lucid Gravity Does Indeed Make Compromises, And One Is A Big One

Lucid bills the Gravity as “the first SUV that delivers everything that matters, without compromise.”

If you look at the interior volume numbers, the handling performance, the acceleration, and the efficiency (mi/kWh), you might think that indeed, Lucid has built a no-compromise SUV. But in truth, there’s always compromise; in fact, I always tell people that engineering is the art of strategic compromising.

In the case of the Lucid Gravity, there are two compromises that are apparent to pretty much anyone: Price and off-road capability. On the pricing front, the Lucid Gravity Grand Touring that I drove — the 450 mile-range one — starts at $94,900. Later in 2025, a Lucid Gravity Touring will come in at $79,900. While these figures are competitive with the likes of the Tesla Model X and Rivian R1S, the reality is that the Lucid Gravity is an expensive car.

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As for off-road capability, one look at the Lucid Gravity tells you that it’s got some severe limitations off-road. That’s because off-roading is all about geometry, and — despite its 9 inches of ground clearance — the Lucid Gravity’s approach and departure angle are just too low to do anything serious. It could climb over some small rocks, go through mud (where its sophisticated traction control could come in handy), and certainly get you to a typical campsite. But it won’t get through even one of Moab’s easiest trails, Fins ‘N Things.

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And that’s OK. These two — cost and off-road capability — are two compromises that Lucid had to make in order to build a three-row vehicle that can crush the competition in terms of both range and performance. Building a world-beater isn’t cheap, and it requires a low-slung body and relatively small tires. I do think that a bit more off-road capability and a bit less handling capability would have been welcomed, as I’m not sure how many 7-passenger vehicle-shoppers like to carve canyons, but again, these two compromises are fine.

But there’s a third compromise that I’m not sure I can get behind: the styling.

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Here’s Lucid’s mission statement:

At Lucid
We are driving a revolution.
One that compromises nothing
by obsessing over everything.

Performance that defies limits.
Going farther with less.
Space large enough for life.
Design that’s impossible to ignore.
All with a passion for preserving our planet.

Here’s to advancing technology
that drives the world forward.

You may notice that performance, efficiency, and space all come before design. That may not have been intentional, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it had.

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Lucid is a company run by engineers, and in fact, that’s one of the reasons why I like it so much. I’m a former engineer, I have a number of friends who work at Lucid, and my conversation with CEO Peter Rawlinson was nothing short of epic. Lucid is an organization run by the best kind of nerds obsessed with maximizing efficiency, and that’s usually a good thing.

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But with the Lucid Gravity, I have a suspicion that engineers won most of the arguments with designers, and I have always been firmly in the camp that thinks designers should tell engineers what to do, thereby compelling them to come up with interesting technical solutions. I don’t think it should be the other way around, because design is simply too important, especially in this price class.

“We’ve had a lot of philosophical discussion about [the design],” David Lickfold told me during our spirited drive. “And something that Derek Jenkins, [Sr.] VP of design, said really well is ‘This is the future of the SUV, if you want an SUV that is extremely efficient and has high performance and has all this space and usability, this is what it looks like.”

This quote supports my suspicion that engineering drove the Gravity’s design, and I have to say: I think that strategy is a mistake. I think any team developing a vehicle should recognize that range, price, and style all share roughly equal weight in the EV marketplace. To build a masterpiece that doesn’t look like a masterpiece seems like an exercise in futility.

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Even Tesla understood this with the Tesla Model X. The vehicle, too, looks like a big Jellybean, but it at least has Falcon-Wing doors to give it a bit of pizazz, and boy do you need pizazz when you’re selling cars for $100,000. Heck, even at a lower price point, Toyota chose to have its new Prius gain a few counts of drag for a bit of sex appeal (and that has been a boon). Style is worth compromising for.

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Personally, I’m blinded by the car’s performance and engineering prowess, so I dig it despite the looks. But the layperson, I fear, will expect more than a Chrysler Pacifica lookalike for a nearly six-figure sum. I sincerely hope I’m wrong.

But from where I stand, it seems that, by trying to avoid compromises, Lucid may have made the biggest one of all.

Images: Lucid, David Tracy, Griffin Riley

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Jay Maynard
Jay Maynard
29 days ago

I just pointed a friend who has several kids and wants an EV that will haul his family at this article. He said that it looks great, but the problem for him is that he needs a car where he can feel assured that the manufacturer won’t go out of business quickly. How’s Lucid’s long term prospects?

Petenugen
Petenugen
29 days ago

For those of you who complain that this is a mini van blah blah blah are the same people that can’t afford this car no matter what it looks like at its price range.

Dave
Dave
30 days ago

Can’t wait for 2026 and 2027 when these are $40K at Carvana.

Hands down, the best engineering in automotive today. Yes, Porsche can learn from them but Lucid is just a blip on the radar and as Aramco struggles, watch the funding faucet turn to a drip. I wish them well but no one knows who they are, outside of those who adore The Autopian.

Oxfordreno
Oxfordreno
30 days ago

My guess would be there are far more people who’d buy vehicle that would take on road performance over off road capability. Is off road prowess even a consideration when buying a 3-row 7-seater? I mean if it could do both that would be amazing but I don’t see it as a compromise in this case.

CanyonCarver
CanyonCarver
30 days ago

Without reading other comments, this isn’t a SUV. This is a van. And Im ok with it. IF I had $100k to blow (which I don’t) and had any inclination to buy a full EV (which I don’t) this would definitely be up on my list. But to call this a SUV, I just don’t see it. I know they need to sell vehicles and a van just doesn’t have the allure it used to, but call it for what it is and let the stats sell themselves.

Excellent write up DT. Lucid seems to be going in the right direction of making efficient EV’s versus just throwing batteries at the problem.

VanGuy
VanGuy
30 days ago
Reply to  CanyonCarver

I mean, I still think it’s too small to be called a van. Unless you mean a minivan, in which case we get into arguing the differences between “large SUV” and “minivan”, which can get into grey areas.

CanyonCarver
CanyonCarver
30 days ago
Reply to  VanGuy

It doesn’t look too far off of an Odyssey or Sienna, but at the same time not too far off from a Pacifica either. The former 2 are definitely vans. What exactly is the Pacifica? A mini-van? A wagon that nobody will acknowledge?

VanGuy
VanGuy
30 days ago
Reply to  CanyonCarver

A sibling has one, they definitely fit into the minivan classification.
I still call the former two “minivans” because classing them next to full-size vans (Transits, Expresses, Sprinters, Promasters, etc.) does a disservice to full-size vans.

Ash78
Ash78
30 days ago

For $80k+, at least give me some sliding doors!Yeah, welcome to Enthusiast Feedback. We’re not scared of minivans, like the Model X, for example.

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1978fiatspyderfan
1978fiatspyderfan
30 days ago

I can tell from the pictures people can get in the rear seat but for the life of me I can’t figure out how they get there. Also I will not acknowledge any vehicle being the epitome of tech until the GPS system allows me to pause or hit a button live during the trip that I can use to divert to a gas station, restaurant, or other secondary location and then return to my trip.

VanGuy
VanGuy
30 days ago

With my aftermarket Android Auto system, I can simply add a stop. I would think Carplay could do that as well?

Jay Maynard
Jay Maynard
29 days ago

My Lexus could do that in 2007. >push button< *boopbeep* “Suspend guidance.” “Guidance suspended.” >make stop< >push button< *boopbeep* “Resume guidance.” “Guidance resumed.”
My Mercedes can do that now. “Hey Mercedes.” *boopbeep* “Cancel route guidance.” “Route guidance cancelled.” >make stop< “Hey Mercedes.” *boopbeep* “Resume route guidance.” “Route guidance resumed.”

What have you been driving that couldn’t?

Hondaimpbmw 12
Hondaimpbmw 12
23 days ago

Ford’s sync 3 can do that (not while driving), BMW sat-nav could do it in 2012 while underway, but it totally sux at finding POIs. Mk 7.5 VW can add a stop, but again not while underway. The Safety Nazi lawyers that don’t recognize that a passenger could safely add a stop while moving drive me nuts.

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James Thomas
James Thomas
30 days ago

David, I can see it now. You want one of these… badly! And I do too! .. but, I’m holding out. Honda has solid state batteries coming soon. In five years, new technology will make anything currently for sale look like a model T Ford looked in 1940.

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Jim Zavist
Jim Zavist
30 days ago

The interior packaging reminds me of the old GM “clamshell” tailgate wagons from the 1970s . . .

Speedie-One
Speedie-One
30 days ago

I learned a long time ago that styling is best left to the buyer. Many cars I like, my friends do not, and the ones they do, I often do not. While I agree styling is important an engineered turd will fail quickly in the market no matter how good (in the eyes of the beholder) it is styled. Personally the overall shape and proportions of the Gravity work for me, although I do take issue with some of the styling details.

TurtleRacer427
TurtleRacer427
30 days ago

Design-wise, the Gravity doesn’t stand out. HOWEVER, that’s no different than almost any other current SUV offering, whether it’s ICE or EV. Yes, the Model X looks different – because it’s ugly. If the designs are going to be similar anyway, then I would rather have something as well-engineered as the Gravity. Looking forward to test driving one soon!

That One Guy
That One Guy
30 days ago

With two small (-ish, they keep growing) kids, a mini-van would be nice, but not crucial. So instead I have a high powered V8 sedan that fits both kids. Most people don’t recognize it, it doesn’t look cool, but the point is that it fits my family and is fun. If I could have a 800hp mini-van that handles like a (heavy) sports car, that might be a compromise I’m willing to make, regardless of the styling. That being said, the price premium means I could rent a truck/van a lot of times (or even buy a cheap ICE van) and still be better off.

Horizontally Opposed
Horizontally Opposed
30 days ago

I am always for style over substance, and I am damn sure of it. So while I respect the Lucid team’s nerdy achievements, I’ll get the Scout instead (if it ever comes out). Reasons are the same why I had a soft top, 3” lift YJ Wrangler in goddamn Chicago winters. I really enjoyed those 9 days of perfect, top-down weather every year.

Chachi549
Chachi549
1 month ago

I love this, I wish it had sliding doors. Why do people hate them so?

I also agree about the looks. It looks like a fancy Honda. It’s definitely a stealth wealth vehicle. But it’s perfect for me. If I was wealthy, I’d also be stealthy.

Bizness Comma Nunya
Bizness Comma Nunya
1 month ago

I see the argument, but it still looks better than a fucking Model X.

Nothing to do with who runs/owns either company… I just always thought the Model X looked so dumb from day 1. Model Y didn’t help either … they both look like weird bloated marine life. But only one has the dumbest doors in the world.

But my opinion didn’t stop lots of people from buying Model X/Y’s so, the Gravity should be fine.

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Hgrunt
Hgrunt
30 days ago
Reply to  David Tracy

Tesla is quite an anomaly–they make so many decisions that go against tried-and-true practices and seem to end up more successful for it

Minimal physical controls? Weird inscrutable door handles? No blinker stalk? No model years? No problem

I suspect their success is because they weren’t specifically trying to appeal to mainstream buyers at first. Instead of informing design via market research like legacy companies, they designed it by doing what they thought was cool and tapped into a segment of people who rarely paid attention to cars in the past: Early adopters, people into tech gadgets, engineers, tech workers, etc.

Óscar Morales Vivó
Óscar Morales Vivó
30 days ago

FWIW The Model X is basically not selling these days.

Tesla is basically a Model 3 & Y company, all their other vehicles sell in even smaller numbers than other luxury competition (the Cybertruck is quickly getting there as well).

AMGx2
AMGx2
1 month ago

800hp minivan.

Totally logical choice to buy.

Mister Win
Mister Win
1 month ago

Really like this thing, but I’m gonna crash out about this:

F*ck. Menus.

F*ck screens!

BUTTONS!

Andrew M
Andrew M
1 month ago

> it was pure poetry in motion

Did he blind you with science?

VanGuy
VanGuy
30 days ago
Reply to  Andrew M

Unfortunately, the approach and departure angles failed him in geometry.

Kevin Rhodes
Kevin Rhodes
1 month ago

If I can’t have falcon wing doors on my bad overly expensive minivan, why bother?

JokesOnYou
JokesOnYou
1 month ago

This thing is pretty cool. I’ll be honest. I’ll probably never be in the market for a $100K minivan whether my bank account is fine with it or not.

Bassracerx
Bassracerx
1 month ago

most people buy luxury vehicles for clout and to project some sort of image associated with the brand. Lucid has a long road ahead of them to get more “mainstream” but hopefully they can stick it out because they are number one in both horsepower and efficiency in all EVs right now! I also like their design language they are not setting out to make “expensive” cars they are making great cars and they just cost what they cost to make a profit.

Joke #119!
Joke #119!
1 month ago

$50K.
That is my offer.
I can wait five years.
Seats should fold flat, though. My 22-year old car’s back seats old flat, so it is not an impossible ask. It is so things can slide all the way in from the back.
And sex.

Rick Garcia
Rick Garcia
1 month ago

Why are they making an 828hp family wagon? No one needs (and very few would want) an 828hp family wagon. Everything has to be heavier, less efficient and more expensive to handle that kind of power. 500hp would be more than enough. Think of your non-enthusiast friends and family, would you even trust them with 500hp let alone 800+? It just makes no practical sense.

Bassracerx
Bassracerx
1 month ago
Reply to  Rick Garcia

lucid launched the flagship first and then the lower horsepower versions later on with the air. That being said the design of the lucid’s motors are super powerful and super lightweight and compact. making a lower power version will not save you much money. And they won’t be any more efficient either.

Fix It Again Tony
Fix It Again Tony
1 month ago
Reply to  Bassracerx

The lower power version is $15k cheaper. That’s plenty of money.

Really No Regrets
Really No Regrets
1 month ago

Lower cost be removing content/options, like traditional ICE manufacturers do for trim levels, as well as less power, less battery.

Bassracerx
Bassracerx
29 days ago

they don’t just reduce the power in they also reduce the content. so 15k is less money but very little of that is from the reduced output powertrain.

Hugh Crawford
Hugh Crawford
30 days ago
Reply to  Bassracerx

All things being equal* it’s the batteries that determine the power, and higher capacity batteries, and faster charge and discharge rates equal more power.

That said if the government regulators that say that you absolutely must have a back up camera, stability, control, and lane keeping assist, and I don’t know what else were to add a requirement that there was an requirement to allow car owners to limit the torque output on their cars behind some sort of access code I would be all for it. Sort of like the valet keys that were popular on high-performance cars at one time.
The 16-year-old driving some other 16-year-olds around in a 3 ton car with a 0 to 60 time of four seconds seems like kind of a bad idea

* Mandatory sock puppet, shouting things are never equal goes here.

Bassracerx
Bassracerx
29 days ago
Reply to  Hugh Crawford

the issue with government mandates is a 200 horsepower limit is fast as fuck in one car and slow as balls in another it’s hard to make some universal law like that. but a valet/ teen driver mode is a fantastic idea that more car makers should adopt!

Hugh Crawford
Hugh Crawford
29 days ago
Reply to  Bassracerx

I am emphatically not asking for a torque per ton government, mandated limit, but a feature where the car owner can dial it down when they want.
Well a driver’s license endorsement for cars of over a certain weight x power would be fine by me too.

Having the lowest class of license allo a driver’s to operate a vehicle that weighs 26,000 pounds with unlimited power on day one is kept nd of a bad idea. I realize that back then it was to allow 14 year olds to drive farm trucks on the road, but things are different now.

Nlpnt
Nlpnt
1 month ago

The “layperson” isn’t in the market for 95 grand worth of 3-row EV. It’s still an early-adopter or at least early-adopter-adjacent market at that level. As long as the in-the-know recognize it, Lucid’ll sell enough.

Hugh Crawford
Hugh Crawford
29 days ago
Reply to  Nlpnt

So clergy only?

LastPickInGym
LastPickInGym
1 month ago

DT – Was the road Calavares?

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