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The Nissan Patrol Warrior Has Me Wondering Why Anyone Wants A Land Cruiser

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The Nissan Patrol is a proud beast. Today’s models offer excellent off-road capability combined with great comfort and a touch of luxury. There’s just one problem—the Toyota Land Cruiser does that too, with a bigger name to boot. Except, having driven the Patrol, I’m not sure why anyone’s looking the Toyota’s way at all.

I was lucky enough to get behind the wheel of the very special Nissan Patrol Warrior. It’s an Australian market exclusive, fettled for off-road performance by the skilled hands at Premcar. It takes the already-impressive Patrol and turns it up to eleven, with chunky tires, badass looks, and a throaty exhaust note to match.

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I’m a fan of all off-roaders, large and small. Few, though, captured my attention quite like the Patrol Warrior this past week—both on-road and off. Come along for the ride – we’re getting muddy!

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It does what it says on the tin.

What It’s Got

The V8 is one of the most beloved engine configurations. We’re seeing them disappear from manufacturer lineups left, right, and center as the world shies away from large-displacement engines. Still, Nissan has kept the mighty V8 in the Patrol longer than most. As an enthusiast, let me tell you unequivocally. This is a good thing.

You climb up into the Patrol Warrior, and sit yourself in the large, commanding driver’s seat. Foot on the brake, you punch the starter button. The engine sparks to life with a throaty roar and burble that wouldn’t be out of place in a modern muscle car.

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The beating V8 heart of the Patrol. Credit: Nissan

You sit high in the Patrol, even more so given the Warrior’s charming modifications (which we’ll touch on in a moment). It might weigh 6358 pounds, but its heft pairs beautifully with 400 horsepower and 413 pound-feet of torque. Combined with its warlike soundtrack, it gives you the distinct impression that you’re piloting the Devil’s own battering ram.

Of course, the regular Nissan Patrol comes with the same V8. It’s all the other gear that makes the Warrior special. Commissioned by Nissan to make the mightiest off-road Patrol yet, Premcar looked at what owners and the aftermarket were doing to improve the platform and built their own version backed by the soft cosseting blanket of a factory warranty.20240810 155302

The first thing that catches your eye is the wheel and tire package. You get big-ass 34.4-inch Yokohama Geolandar tires mounted on exclusive 18-inch rims. They’re there to help you roll over obstacles with impunity—so big that you don’t even sweat the small stuff. As you might imagine, fitting these was no mean feat. To that end, Premcar re-engineered the whole suspension system to suit. The Warrior has new front springs, new multi-rate rear springs, new bump stops, and a revised Hydraulic Body Motion Control system to keep it all in check. Oh, and Premcar threw on fender flares to match.

The bespoke suspension package gives the Patrol Warrior a hefty 2″ lift as well as a 1.57-inch increase in track width. Ground clearance is boosted to a total of 12.7 inches. The total package gives the off-roader a 40-degree approach angle and an impressive 23.3-degree departure angle with a towbar fitted. It achieves a breakover angle of 24.4 degrees.

There are obvious tells that this is a special vehicle. Like the giant “WARRIOR” bash plate installed to protect the engine bay, and the badging and decals on the side of the vehicle. But one change will draw you more attention than any other. It’s the thunderous custom exhaust.

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Honest to goodness, side pipes—just beneath the running board.

Nissan’s VK56VD is a potent engine on its own, but it’s the Premcar exhaust that really lets it sound off with impunity. It barks and rumbles in a way that’s reminiscent of some of the greats. It’s clean, but fierce, like the tone you get from a classic Maserati Quattroporte. You can even get it with side pipes if you’re so inclined. You need not fear the pitchforks and torches of your neighbors, though. It’s bi-modal and happily quiets down when you’re not giving it the beans.

What happened is quite simple. Premcar took the Nissan Patrol Ti, and then basically did what so many owners do. It threw on a rad lift kit, big rubber, and some serious underbody protection. Then they chucked on a loud-but-tasteful exhaust and did all the work to a factory-quality specification. The result is a bigger, badder patrol that has the brawn to back up its bite.

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You might expect, too, that all these off-road upgrades come at a penalty. That’s not the case. Premcar was sure to design the Warrior carefully to preserve its payload and tow ratings, even redesigning the tow bar to leave room for a full-size spare tire. That’s no mean feat for 34.4-inch rubber!

The vehicle was given an official upgrade to Gross Vehicle Mass (GVM), giving it a total payload of 1,622 pounds, 105 pounds greater than the Patrol Ti. That’s important for an eight-seater. As for towing, it’ll haul 7700 pounds with a braked trailer, though that’s downgraded to just 1653 pounds for an unbraked trailer.

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What It’s Like

To give you my true feelings on the Patrol Warrior requires some context. Jumping back to 2023, I drove the all-new 300 Series Toyota Land Cruiser last year. I was duly impressed. It was comfortable, the tech was good, and it handled a nice little beach drive without complaint. But it was also fridge white with a drivetrain that was fit for purpose. It was a great vehicle, but one lacking in any sort of flair.

Back to 2024. I pick up the keys to the Nissan Patrol Warrior. It burbles into life, I idle it out of the carpark and on towards the highway. I lean into the throttle, just past that magic threshold, and boom. The exhaust opens up, the V8 snarls, and suddenly I’m hauling serious ass.

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If you have no interest in V8 theatrics, this means nothing to you. But as an enthusiast, as someone who enjoys driving? That engine, that exhaust is everything. It was perfectly civilized when necessary, but that grunt is intoxicating. It’s the secret tangy sauce that the Patrol has and the Land Cruiser just doesn’t.

I spent a few days getting comfortable with the vehicle, or uncomfortable in certain cases. The Patrol suffers from one main drawback. It’s kind of gigantic. This is true of most of its rivals, of course—but the additional height and track width do make rather a handful in a tight inner-city world. If you live in the suburbs or a rural area, this will not phase you. If you work downtown and park in a multi-story lot, consider something smaller.

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Plenty of room to park out here.

Outside of parking snafus, though, I found it comfortable and smooth on road, even with the chunky all-terrain tires. What I was really interested to find out, though, was how this thing performed on chunkier terrain.

To put it to the test, I headed out to some trails I hadn’t seen in the better part of a decade. I wound up tackling deep ruts, rocky descents, and even a few light mudbaths. I was careful not to attempt anything too questionable, given I had to hand the vehicle back in one piece. Fundamentally, though, I needed to know what this thing was like in its true habitat.

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The Y62 platform has been in production since 2010 and is due for replacement. Some say the design is becoming dated, though Nissan has done well to refresh the aesthetics over the years.

The Warrior impressed me, no word of a lie. On its own, the Y62 Nissan Patrol is a perfectly adept off-road platform. With full-time four-wheel-drive, all the usual computer gizmos, and good suspension, it’ll paw its way along the rough stuff quite surely. The Warrior, though, just ups the game all around. The added lift lets you tackle bigger ruts and steeper approaches without a care in the world. The big rubber is also gorgeous for blasting over badly potholed trails. I took some friends out, and we got waylaid on a dirt road peppered with basketball-sized potholes. The Warrior blasted over them without a second thought.

These big modern 4x4s can make you feel like an adept off-roader from the drop. They have so much grip, power, and control that once-challenging trails become easy. You’ve also got the benefit of computers watching out for you when it comes to locking the brakes or sliding in undesirable directions. I’ve wheeled all-analog four-wheel-drives and had a ball doing it, but vehicles like the Patrol flatter my skills on another level. I haven’t been out on the trail in years, but I was able to tackle chunky descents and tricky rutted paths quite easily. Nor did softer surfaces give me any problems, even with the occasional judicious use of the horsepower.

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I mostly kept to the simpler trails for the sake of returning the vehicle in good shape, but I’m certain this thing is even more rewarding on the harder stuff. I’d particularly enjoy trying one out in wetter, muddier conditions, or at a rapid pace in the sand. I also didn’t have cause to use the hill descent control or do much in low range, but all the hardware is there if you find the need to use it.

I’d love to own one of these so I could thrash it on the rough stuff with abandon. As our day in the bush was ending, we came across a short, steep climb with deep ruts in slick mud. At over a foot deep in places, we’d have wanted to dodge around them to make it up the hump without disaster. I suspect that 400 horsepower and a good bit of welly would have flung us up it with the right line. Sadly, though, I wasn’t convinced I was the one who could do it without potentially putting the Patrol on its side. Nissan wouldn’t have appreciated that, so I decided to lean towards discretion and find another path out. Put that on me, for I’m sure the Warrior was up to the task.

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Equipment

I’ve told you all about the driving experience because that’s what really lit me up. But we should talk about equipment, too. The Patrol Warrior is well-equipped, but not the best equipped. Premcar and Nissan elected to focus on off-road performance more than outright luxury, so the Warrior is based on the Patrol Ti, not the Ti-L.

That means you miss out on a few features you might have expected to find in such a halo vehicle. You don’t get a powered tailgate, a sunroof, or heated and ventilated seats. The latter was particularly surprising and somewhat missed in the chilly Australian winter.

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The Patrol Warrior has in-built navigation, too. A lot of cars have begun to eschew this feature in favor of solely relying on Android Auto & Apple CarPlay.
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The dash cluster is simple by modern standards, but functional.

There are good reasons behind this, of course. Premcar noted that the Ti-L starts off taller than the Ti, so after the big lift, it would have been impractically tall for getting into parking lots. As it stands, the Warrior is 78.34 inches, or 1990 mm high—just under 2 meters. The roof rails of the Ti-L would put it over the line and make it harder to use in the real world. It’s also heavy enough already without adding more equipment.

Since it’s based on the Australian market Patrol, it doesn’t have the updated interior seen in the US-market Nissan Armada. However, it has had some upgrades, most notably to the center-dash infotainment system. It has a 10.1-inch display with wireless Android Auto and Apple CarPlay, and it works admirably well. For the price, anything less would be a bit of a disappointment. You also get a well-designed wireless phone charger, and the reversing camera is also a lovely high-resolution unit. You’ll find this extra useful given the sheer size of the vehicle.

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The Patrol seats eight in three rows.
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One highlight is the center console cool box.

Emotional Response

Do you like big, giant trucks that are fast and go “GRRRRRAHHHH!” when you hit the pedal? Do you like enormous comfy chairs and a seating position that lords over petty traffic? Do you have seven friends and want to take them all with you on the trail? Then you’d probably like the Patrol Warrior.

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It looks great on a country road.

I won’t lie to you. This truck caused me all kinds of problems this week. I had a hell of a time parking it downtown as I went about my business. It’s simply not suited to city life. And that didn’t change my opinion of it one bit. This thing is awesome.

The Toyota Land Cruiser is still the default big four-wheel-drive in Australia. It’s more beloved than most of our national sporting heroes and two out of three Hemsworth brothers. And yet, if I had to drop the cash tomorrow… the call would be easy. I wouldn’t spend $140,000 to wait six months for a 300 Series Land Cruiser. I’d spend less than $120,000 and drive away in a 400-horsepower Nissan Patrol Warrior with the V8 gargling its heart out as I tore onto the highway.

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In contrast, it’s a little big for the city.

That’s not to say the Warrior is for everyone. If you want more luxury and are less fussed about going off-road, the Patrol Ti-L makes more sense. It’s also a thirsty, thirsty beast. Nissan quotes the same combined 16 mpg (14.4 L/100km) fuel economy for the regular Patrol Ti and the Warrior alike. Realistically, though, the big wheel and tire package alone have to ding that to some degree. I did a lot of city and off-road driving, and I saw 13 mpg (18.2 L/100 km) in practice. Just make sure you’ve got the budget to feed this thing if you do decide to pull the trigger. Especially since it runs on 95 RON—roughly equivalent to 91 octane gas in the US.

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I won’t forget you, boisterous V8 Nissan.

Ultimately, though? The Nissan Patrol Warrior was built to a simple rule. Take the excellent Nissan Patrol Ti, and make it even better off-road. Giving it a beautiful singing voice was just the icing on the cake. I loved it, and the only thing I’m sad about is that it won’t be around for long. So be swift, and flee to your Nissan dealer if you still want one. For you see, the next Nissan Patrol is just around the corner…

Image credits: Lewin Day, Nissan/Premcar

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Loudsx .
Loudsx .
2 months ago

And every one I see around here has a aftermarket exaust on it that as James May would put it gives me the fizzing sensation

Urban Runabout
Urban Runabout
2 months ago

“V8 Patrol Warrior”
I feel so masculine just reading that.

Just kidding.

Dead Elvis, Inc.
Dead Elvis, Inc.
2 months ago
Reply to  Urban Runabout

“Insecure Douchenozzle Behind Wheel” is kinda long, but this big pig offers plenty of room for accurate badging.

Urban Runabout
Urban Runabout
2 months ago

COTD

Dead Elvis, Inc.
Dead Elvis, Inc.
2 months ago
Reply to  Urban Runabout

Thanks, but not a chance!

JunkInTheFrunk
JunkInTheFrunk
2 months ago

I just bought a 2021 Armada with 60k for $29k off the lot to tow my Airstream. I think it’s one of the most slept on vehicles in the US and it’s about to go through the same re-assessment as the GX did. I drove the old Sequoia, new Sequoia, Suburban and Expedition while I was shopping, and it beats them all on value and features as a dedicated tow rig.

As people have been quick to point out, there are downsides on fuel efficiency and reliability relative to the GM and Toyota products. As a tank that can trundle over mountain passes towing 5000 lbs without breaking a sweat, I don’t think there is a better product available for the price on the used market.

Brynjaminjones
Brynjaminjones
2 months ago
Reply to  JunkInTheFrunk

We had the very similar Infiniti QX80 as a rental car a year or so back, and I fell in love with it.

I’ve never driven a vehicle that simply absorbed bumps as well as that thing did!
The drivetrain was great with excellent power, and this one had the updated interior which I thought was very nicely put together and incredibly quiet.
It sounds to me like you’ve made a great purchase!

Steve Lee
Steve Lee
2 months ago

Having owned two Armada’s (both Gen’s) and now a GX460 this is one of the most egregious takes ever.

The Armada is big, heavy, poorly constructed, loud and not really good at anything other than hauling lots of kids and towing a boat which is why I owned 2 of them. The interior is archaic and of poor quality.

Now that I don’t have to cart around the entire soccer team (kids are out of college) I LOVE my GX and could not ever see picking the Nissan over a LC or a Prado.

However I will say gas mileage is horrible in all of these types of vehicles and if you can afford an almost 6 figure truck why you should care about fuel cost is beyond me. My GX averages just 18MPG and it takes premium gas. It’s just part of the cost of admission.

Utherjorge
Utherjorge
2 months ago
Reply to  Steve Lee

I just swapped the exhaust on my GX and will be tracking mileage now. I have a lift and other offroady parts and averaged 17 on a lengthy trip weekend one month ago.

After nearly ripping off the stock steps on a narrow jaunt this year, I have swapped in Victory sliders. I have to trim the butt, but ahead of that, I swapped in the Carven exhaust (um…I think I made it too loud) but most importantly a Brockett-Built y-pipe after waiting for a URD pipe. I don’t want to tune it at this time, but the stock Y-pipe is pretty restrictive. Putting on the Carven created some pops when I let off the throttle, but the new y-pipe seems to have solved it.

In any case, anyone who’s swapped in a new y-pipe reports mileage gains. I will know soon enough, methinks.

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
2 months ago
Reply to  Steve Lee

Because why spend money on gas when hookers and blow exist?

EricTheViking
EricTheViking
2 months ago

Seriously, the manufacturers need to stop tee the V8 engines off their vehicles. Four- and six-cylinder engines won’t cut the mustard for me…

Gene1969
Gene1969
2 months ago
Reply to  EricTheViking

Luckily GM has invested in a new V-8

Hangover Grenade
Hangover Grenade
2 months ago

Nissan helpfully has a comparison tool on their website. You can see the Armada against the Expedition, Sequoia, and a Tahoe. They compete on price but that’s about it. The mpg is laughable in 2024.

It looks okay and you’re looking to save $8k, I guess it’s fine. You’ll quickly lose those savings to fuel but oh well.

Who Knows
Who Knows
2 months ago

Too big, too heavy, expensive, gas mileage that isn’t much better than some prototype fully loaded semi trucks, running boards that look like they will get ripped off with the first medium rock obstacle- this seems like worst of all worlds. If fully loaded up to near 8000 lbs, what suspension/driveline parts will fail first I wonder?

Fruit Snack
Fruit Snack
2 months ago

The dashboard design made me throw up in my mouth a little. Anyway if you are blind, and love paying repairs and the gas station, sure go ahead and get it.

Waremon0
Waremon0
2 months ago
Reply to  Fruit Snack

With the current trend, I’ll take functional buttons over aesthetics. Especially in a BOF SUV for off-roading.

Utherjorge
Utherjorge
2 months ago

lol to those side decals from Etsy

EmotionalSupportBMW
EmotionalSupportBMW
2 months ago

I know the whole LOL Nissan meme. The VK56 reliability is honestly pretty good. I’ve seen a few of these cross the 300k mark without any major issue. The only really common flaw is the cats clogging. Which sucks, but your aftermarket Eastern or what have you won’t repeat the clog. I’ve also never seen one go under 75k and have this issue. More common in the early VD years (2010-11). The only headache on the y62 is blowing up diffs if you really let the VK rev out. Otherwise pretty reliable car, been going for almost 20 years with limited changes so it’s pretty figured out.

Also fun fact the lead designer on this was Taiji Toyota

AlterId
AlterId
2 months ago

More common in the early VD years…

Many things are, so be sure to keep things cleaned up.

Lockleaf
Lockleaf
2 months ago

Its interesting to see all the hate being flung at the Nissan V8 powertrain for reliability. I have access to a great deal of US auto repair data, like details of specific repairs being done and their costs, and the Nissan V8 reliability is second only to Toyota. Fewer repairs are done on Armada/Titan powertrains than on Chevy/Ford/Dodge. Everything else from Nissan the data shows is pretty unreliable. But the V8 is solid.

Vic Vinegar
Vic Vinegar
2 months ago
Reply to  Lockleaf

Isn’t the motor like 15 years old at this point? It should have the kinks worked out.

Windnsea00
Windnsea00
2 months ago
Reply to  Lockleaf

Whose trucks are more reliable for the big 3?

Lockleaf
Lockleaf
2 months ago
Reply to  Windnsea00

Ford is the most reliable of the big 3. However, it should be noted that NON AFM versions of both Chevy and Dodge perform really well. It seems like lifter/cam issues that they both suffer as part of the AFM system are what really bring them down. Early SRT engines before AFM are way more reliable than the AFM 5.7 hemi, and we all know how SRTs are getting driven. This data is based on vehicles including basically the last 20 model years, but all the data is collected from repairs occurring in the last 5 years.

Jsloden
Jsloden
2 months ago

Came here to say “because the nissan v8 is a pile of hot garbage”. But it looks like several other people beat me to it. Glad to know that most of the people on here already know this.

B3n
B3n
2 months ago
Reply to  Jsloden

But where is this information coming from though?
There is a recall for 2017-2019 VK56VD because some of them had an oil jet installed wrong. But that doesn’t impact all the other years before or after (2011-2024)
Whataboutism, yes, GM V8s still have collapsed lifters, Hemis had cam wear for many years, and so on. Nothing is perfect, I’m just saying the Nissan V8 isn’t any worse.

Jsloden
Jsloden
2 months ago
Reply to  B3n

You’re right, and I have no problem calling the GM v8’s hot garbage as well. I think the hemi v8’s are better but then their transmissions are crap. This article though is comparing it to a toyota and to put it simply, there is no comparison. The nissan v8 isn’t even in the same league as a toyota v8. To simplify it, no nissan engine has ever been in the same league as a toyota engine.

Canopysaurus
Canopysaurus
2 months ago

Okay, you’re in Australia, so that’s the other side of the world and you’re upside down and your toilets flush backward. It’s like a perpetual Opposites Day. That means when we read your post here, we should believe the opposite of what you write. So, what you’re really telling us is that this Nissan Patrol Warrior is a horrible vehicle that no one should ever want. Got it; message received.

Squirrelmaster
Squirrelmaster
2 months ago

When I’ve driven the Nissan Armada as a rental, I’ve actually rather liked it. I even briefly considered buying one until I looked at the forums and realized how unreliable they are, how little aftermarket support there is for them in the USA, and how neutered the Armada is for off-roading (which is something I do on a very regular basis) compared to the Patrol. In the end, while my kids would have appreciated more third row space the Armada offers, I kept my GX470 and am confident I made the right call. As a former Nissan fan (back in the 80s and 90s), it still makes me sad to see what Nissan has become…

Utherjorge
Utherjorge
2 months ago
Reply to  Squirrelmaster

GX is always the right answer

Steve Lee
Steve Lee
2 months ago
Reply to  Utherjorge

1000% Correct

Col Lingus
Col Lingus
2 months ago

Resale value. Says enough.

The NISSAN of today is not the same as the company that once built decent stuff decades ago.

Crack pipe here Lewin, you poor deluded child.

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
2 months ago

Why would you want anything else?

Because, underneath it all, it’s all Nissan. It’s the Chrysler-of-Japan.

The 5.6V8 you praise is horrendous on fuel consumption, and reliability. Having known people who’ve had that engine had everything from shift linkages breaking to electrical gremlins that took years to diagnose and resolve (cross-fingers that it does). All of which leave you stranded, and wondering how to get home – but thanking themselves they’re not off-grid on a trail when it happens.

Go away Lewin, you’re drunk.

Scoutdude
Scoutdude
2 months ago
Reply to  Spikedlemon

Good to hear someone else who knows that Nissan is the Japanese Chrysler. My son’s friend worked at a Nissan dealer and one of the mechanics there shared that little nugget with him.

The Clutch Rider
The Clutch Rider
2 months ago
Reply to  Scoutdude

i thought that was common knowledge already.

Scoutdude
Scoutdude
2 months ago

First time I’ve seen it used on the Internets.

Box Rocket
Box Rocket
2 months ago

The 5.6L V8 in the patrol/armada/qx80/titan/nv#500 is notoriously not great. I’m not sure it’s $30K AUD less convenient for the lifetime of the vehicle versus a Land Cruiser, but it might be.

I’ve had a few customers who have needed engines replaced at alarmingly young ages even with proper maintenance on them. One NV2500 or 3500 that needed the engine at 24K miles but was out of powertrain by time ($16K USD) and another with a QX80 that needed one just within powertrain warranty, and with all its recorded oil changes being done at the factory dealership.

Furthermore, they have an appetite for catalytic converters. There’s 4 of them, they’re part of the exhaust manifolds, and IIRC requires dropping the engine in order to do them, so is at least a 6 hour job. So repairs were at around $3K USD pre-pandemic, probably double that now.

I’d get an Expedition Timberline if I needed a non-Toyota BOF off-road-ready large SUV. If I were in Australia then I’d get an Everest.

Box Rocket
Box Rocket
2 months ago
Reply to  Box Rocket

Ran out of time to edit: they do have one advantage, given that the high roof in the SUVs does make them fairly friendly to taller occupants in the first two rows.

Last edited 2 months ago by Box Rocket
Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
2 months ago

“The Patrol suffers from one main drawback. It’s kind of gigantic. This is true of most of its rivals, of course—but the additional height and track width do make rather a handful in a tight inner-city world. If you live in the suburbs or a rural area, this will not phase you. If you work downtown and park in a multi-story lot, consider something smaller.”

Still waiting for the other shoe…

“It’s also a thirsty, thirsty beast. Nissan quotes the same combined 16 mpg (14.4 L/100km) fuel economy for the regular Patrol Ti and the Warrior alike. Realistically, though, the big wheel and tire package alone have to ding that to some degree. I did a lot of city and off-road driving, and I saw 13 mpg (18.2 L/100 km) in practice. Just make sure you’ve got the budget to feed this thing if you do decide to pull the trigger. Especially since it runs on 95 RON—roughly equivalent to 91 octane gas in the US.”

There it is!

How much is gas in Australia in Freedom dollars and Independence gallons anyway? Do you have some equivalent of Gasbuddy to shop around with?

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
2 months ago
Reply to  Cheap Bastard

Even considering the ‘cheap’ US prices (vs the rest of the world), the real-world mileage of this V8 (in this day and age) is inexcusable.

And Lewin’s ‘real-world’ mileage is not far off from the mileage I’ve heard from other owners of this engine in mixed driving without the silly accessories on this one.

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
2 months ago
Reply to  Lewin Day

But why would you when there are so many better things to buy than gas?

Lardo
Lardo
2 months ago
Reply to  Lewin Day

Yes. And even for used vehicles too. You can do the math, buying something that has poor mpg for the right price can be a smart buy. Unless gas prices change drastically.

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
2 months ago
Reply to  Lewin Day

By that argument, either burn your money because you don’t value it, or buy the Toyota and have something better.

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
2 months ago
Reply to  Spikedlemon

Or buy something else entirely.

Rod Millington
Rod Millington
2 months ago
Reply to  Cheap Bastard

On long term average, about USD4.85/gal for the minimum standard fuel that the Patrol requires.

In dollarydoos, it would cost you about $35 to do 100km (USD23/62mi).

Matti Sillanpää
Matti Sillanpää
2 months ago
Reply to  Rod Millington

An in my neck of the woods you can double that :D. Not really a commuter.

Cloud Shouter
Cloud Shouter
2 months ago

You’re from Australia. You know the arguments. Been around forever. Parts availability in the bush. Known product when working on. This particular Nissan is just too new to fight group think and legend status.

Just look at Roothie’s Milo.

BobWellington
BobWellington
2 months ago

6300 pounds…good god.

RC
RC
2 months ago
Reply to  BobWellington

LX470 curb weight: 5500 pounds.

80-series LC curb weight: 4700 pounds

I’m happy to see somebody so enthusiastic about the Patrol, but that weight is not small shakes; it’s almost 30-40% heavier than (some) comparable Toyota products. I’ve never seen a Patrol do its offroad thing in the US, but that kind of pressure on a similar sized contact patch is going to make for rough going on a lot of routes in the States.

Davey
Davey
2 months ago
Reply to  RC

I watch lots of Aussie 4WD shows because they have the better selection of 4WD’s that I adore, and when these things are loaded up with gear, trays, tents, etc, the weight of lifting tires while off-roading shock loads them when they touch back down, often blowing CV axels. It’s great to see them fix it in the bush, but the base vehicle weighing so much before more gear is just a recipe for disaster (for some of the components, like CV’s) when these are taken offroad/overlanding/up some rocks.

Highly recommend watching some Aussie 4WD shows and seeing all the Toyota 79 series, Nissan Patrols, Rangers and forbidden Mitsubishi & Isuzu trucks they have going on over there.

Nhizzat
Nhizzat
2 months ago
Reply to  Davey

I watch 4WD 24-7 every week. Especially enjoyed their trips to the US. Would love to watch Jesse wheel an Ultra4 rig. Can’t wait to watch an episode featuring his BMW-swapped Patrol.

Can you recommend other channels please?

Last edited 2 months ago by Nhizzat
Davey
Davey
2 months ago
Reply to  Nhizzat

I began watching that during covid, and it’s a high bar that I haven’t been able to clear with other Aussie 4WD shows lol. I almost just want to go back a few years and start again.

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
2 months ago
Reply to  BobWellington

Those kangaroos don’t crush themselves!

Mustardayonnaise
Mustardayonnaise
2 months ago
Reply to  BobWellington

came here to write the same thing. this fuckin thing weighs almost as much as a cybertruck. no wonder the mileage sucks to no end

InvivnI
InvivnI
2 months ago

These things have the worst fuel consumption of any new car in Australia, according to an article that came out a couple of years ago after petrol prices spiked. It’s the Patrol’s Achilles heel, especially given the ubiquity of diesel engines in most other off-roaders down here. Nice car otherwise, but its unpopularity makes sense.

Last edited 2 months ago by InvivnI
Albert Ferrer
Albert Ferrer
2 months ago
Reply to  InvivnI

Don’t know the situation there, but in Europe these cars (actually the smaller Land Cruiser and Montero versions) only ever sell in any meaningful numbers as diesels.

StillNotATony
StillNotATony
2 months ago

Can I get an Aussie mechanic in a sling take one look at it and say “The last of the V8 SUVs. Be a shame to blow it up.”

Idiotking
Idiotking
2 months ago
Reply to  StillNotATony

While twirling a spanner in his hand

Klone121
Klone121
2 months ago

This would sell like hot cakes in the U.S. but probably has some emissions and crash test issues. Not to mention the chicken tax unless they can build it domestic.

V10omous
V10omous
2 months ago
Reply to  Klone121

This has been sold here for 20 years, they just call it the Armada.

If you mean the lift kit, it wouldn’t surprise me to see that come here as an option.

Speedway Sammy
Speedway Sammy
2 months ago
Reply to  V10omous

Less hp and worse fuel economy than a Tahoe 6.2? No wonder Renault can’t get it done in Formula 1.

Albert Ferrer
Albert Ferrer
2 months ago
Reply to  Speedway Sammy

If this a Renault I want one of those V8s in an A110.

Last edited 2 months ago by Albert Ferrer
The Clutch Rider
The Clutch Rider
2 months ago
Reply to  V10omous

wasn’t the Armada it’s own separate thing, based on the Titan for the first generation?

And the Patrol was the decomposing whale looking Infiniti QX80 or something like that?

V10omous
V10omous
2 months ago

You’re right, I forgot the Armada and QX56/80 diverged for so long. The old Armada lasted until 2015, but the QX was a Patrol by 2010.

Quite honestly, I don’t usually give the Nissan full size lineup much thought.

EmotionalSupportBMW
EmotionalSupportBMW
2 months ago

The Armada was it’s own thing. The Patrol and Armada became one in 2016. Though the Y61 and Y62 did exist at the same time till 2022ish.

V10omous
V10omous
2 months ago

Are the reputations of Toyota and Nissan relative to each other much different Down Under?

Because even I, a V8 lover to my very bones, can’t imagine looking at a real (not the downsized new US model) Land Cruiser for $X and a Nissan Armada for 85% of $X and going for the Nissan.

Crimedog
Crimedog
2 months ago
Reply to  V10omous

As an anecdote of an anecdote, I asked a similar question once. The answer I got was, “Sure, anything can get you into the bush. You are only guaranteed a return if you’re in an LC.”
True or not, it was an interesting sentiment.

Now that I think I about it, I was asking about the Nissan Kingsroad Safari, which is very good (heim lcjs and all), but not perceived as “Land Cruiser good”.

Spikedlemon
Spikedlemon
2 months ago
Reply to  Crimedog

Paraphrasing:
Many new regions of the world were first discovered in a Land Rover. But it was the Land Cruisers that made it home.

AlterId
AlterId
2 months ago
Reply to  Spikedlemon

Not necessarily a bad thing, though. If their fleet had been more Toyota-based, Rhodesia might still be a thing.

Andre Pereira Goncalves
Andre Pereira Goncalves
2 months ago

I could never get past the “baroque” styling elements, like the gratuitous C-pilar curvature, and the arched dash. It just dates the car, and you can really tell that it is an old design updated in the cheapest way possible (front and rear fascia only). The V8 is nice, but it feels huge and boaty. A package like this (never offered in my neck of the woods) might have sawyed me, but ended getting something else

Angrycat Meowmeow
Angrycat Meowmeow
2 months ago

Honestly Nissan has me wondering why anyone wants a Nissan.

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