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This Automaker Is Offering An Up-To-$20,000 Discount For Tesla Owners Done With Elon

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Tesla has sold millions of cars to millions of people in the last few years. Now, with Elon Musk becoming more political than ever, a sizable number of those people want nothing to do with the brand or its CEO. With many owners looking to sell, Polestar saw an opportunity to win itself some new customers.

As covered by InsideEVs, the Swedish EV brand is offering big incentives on new Polestar 3 leases. On top of already-existing $15,000 incentives, those trading in a Tesla can score an extra $5,000 bonus. Stack those, and it adds up to $20,000 off a Polestar for dropping your Tesla.

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Polestar isn’t being shy about this in the slightest. They’ve named it the “Tesla Conquest Offer,” and it has apparently proved remarkably popular.


According to Polestar’s US Head of Sales, Jordan Hofmann, the move was successful. “This week saw some of the highest order days for Polestar 3, and the response to our Tesla Conquest Offer has been incredible,” Hofmann posted on LinkedIn. “Manufactured in the USA, Polestar 3 is turning heads and drivers are making moves — it’s clear they like what we bring to the table.”

With the existing $15,000 incentive on the hood, a Polestar 3 lease starts at $599 a month with a $5,000 down payment. A further $5,000 Tesla Conquest credit will bring that down further, possibly well below the $500 a month level. Polestar’s standard lease term is 27 months including 10,000 miles a year.

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Polestar initially offered the deal from February 21 to 28. However, this appears to have been extended to March 2. It’s unclear if Polestar will continue the deal further; The Autopian has contacted the automaker regarding this detail. To claim the credit, Polestar required a copy of US registration or insurance documents outlining one’s name, address, and the Tesla’s VIN to qualify for the credit. The Tesla can also be owned by someone else in your household. You don’t actually need to trade the Tesla in, as Tesla doesn’t allow other companies to buy out its leases. You’d have to handle that side of things directly with them instead.

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In some cases, it’s referred to as the Polestar Conquest Bonus, which isn’t nearly as catty. Credit: Polestar

On top of existing owners looking to sell, Tesla has also faced a 50% drop in new sales in Europe in January. It comes in the wake of CEO Elon Musk being more and more vocal about political topics and now working hand-in-hand with president Trump. As covered by Newsweek, Musk’s powerful personal brand has turned Tesla vehicles into a political symbol, which some owners don’t necessarily wish to be aligned with.

The furor towards the brand has reached fever pitch in recent weeks. As reported by Reuters, Saturday saw nine arrested at a major protest at a New York Tesla showroom. Earlier in February, a carpark full of Teslas had their wheels stolen in Houston. These incidents are just the tip of the iceberg. It makes earlier bullying towards early Cybertruck owners look tame in comparison.

Polestar isn’t the only company taking shots at Tesla, either. Kia Norway took to Instagram to post a photo of an EV3 wearing a sticker that reads “I bought this after Elon went crazy.” It riffs on a popular sticker making the rounds with Tesla owners right now, that reads “I bought this before Elon went crazy.”

 

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A post shared by Kia Bil Norge AS (@kiabilnorge)

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Supply and demand work in a straightforward manner in the automotive world. All the signs suggest that demand has cratered in some markets, which could see resale values tank for owners looking to dump their cars; selling depreciated cars directly could yield disappointing prices. Such conditions could make Polestar’s offer look more attractive to Tesla owners looking for the proverbial off-ramp.

Image credits: Polestar

Hat tip to Shiroi—thanks for the tip!

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Dolsh
Dolsh
1 month ago

I read all that, and it just confirmed to me that that Polestar 3 was at least $20k over priced.

Neat car, I really liked it when I looked at it. I had to LOL when the Polestar guy told me what the price was though.

RustyJunkyardClassicFanatic
RustyJunkyardClassicFanatic
1 month ago

This is so hilarious…good on them… I’m glad most people don’t want to support a Nazi. I knew all along the consequences of his actions would catch up to that dumbfuckface

GhosnInABox
GhosnInABox
1 month ago

I don’t support those who profit from creating controversy nor do I support those who profit from opposing it.

JP15
JP15
1 month ago
Reply to  GhosnInABox

To be fair to Polestar, conquest credits are pretty common in the automotive industry, especially in fierce segments like pickup trucks. $5k is high, but that kind of incentive is pretty common.

They also didn’t make any comment on Tesla controversy, Autopian did.

GhosnInABox
GhosnInABox
1 month ago
Reply to  JP15

You’re absolutely correct. I’m just slowly losing my sanity in all this culture war bs.

Scotticus
Scotticus
1 month ago
Reply to  GhosnInABox

If you consider the backlash to an unelected billionaire making drastic cuts to major, important government programs to be “culture war bs”, I have no idea what to tell you

Jsfauxtaug
Jsfauxtaug
1 month ago

TIL: Polestar 3 is manufactured in the USA. That’s kind of news on it’s own.

Since it’s still technically a Chinese owned company, does it still have the complications of cyber security that TikTok does?

Mr E
Mr E
1 month ago

“Manufactured in the USA, Polestar 3 is turning heads and drivers are making moves — it’s clear they like what we bring to the table.”

With all due respect to Mr. Hoffman, people like the rebates they’re putting on the hood.

Boosted
Boosted
1 month ago

Traded in our Polestar 2 for a 3 in Dec. The 2 was great, but just needed a little extra room, the 3’s back seat as a lot more leg room. If you need a 3rd row, look at the Volvo EX90, which is the cousin to this car but with 3rd row. The 3 moves the rear seat back for more leg room, the EX90 moves it forward a bit to fit the 3rd row.

Both the Polestar 2 and 3 was a bit surprising in how well it handled, the 2 handled just as well as my VA WRX did. For a 5,800 lbs tall wagon, the 3 has no right handling corners the way it does.

Dodsworth
Dodsworth
1 month ago

“The ‘fuhrer’ towards the brand?” OK. It’s a shame that short-shirt Elon is also dragging Nikola Tesla’s name through the mud too.

Drive By Commenter
Drive By Commenter
1 month ago

This lease cash brings down the price to where I could almost swing it. But I’d be giving up a third row seat, which is used regularly enough to be glad to have it. The mileage also wouldn’t work. It would totally depend on the residual and money factor if buying out would be doable.

Anders
Anders
1 month ago

Isn’t the Musk controversy just a god-sent thing for Polestar? They have plenty of cars in stock (they’re obviously a struggling car maker) yet discounting products when you aspire to be a premium brand, is a no-go-zone. But Voilà; Now they can discount their cars and hide the dirty truth behind a political narrative.

Manwich Sandwich
Manwich Sandwich
1 month ago
Reply to  Anders

Isn’t the Musk controversy just a god-sent thing for Polestar?”

And a God-send to other BEV makers like VW, Rivian, Ford, etc.

JDE
JDE
1 month ago

the big question is can we get someone to make a decent network of charging stations that no longer lines Elon’s pockets. And can someone tell me if the price on those is regulated in any manner.

I would be curious if the use of a Tesla battery pack for pennies on the dollar now, could be converted to DC fast Charger system. Maybe drive one out to some of the more out there gas stations, cover it in a solar geodesic dome and let people use it on any EV that rolls up to it.

Huja Shaw
Huja Shaw
1 month ago
Reply to  JDE

I always thought one of the biggest, long-game winners in the EV evolution is the company that comes out on top with the technology that becomes the charging standard.

Ben
Ben
1 month ago
Reply to  Huja Shaw

Yes and no. That’s basically what Tesla did, but now that everyone has moved to NACS it means their competitive advantage in that space is gone. Since the charging network was the primary reason to buy a Tesla (especially over any other EV), it’s not clear that in the long run having won the charger wars will actually be a good thing for them.

ClutchAbuse
ClutchAbuse
1 month ago
Reply to  JDE

Yep, unfortunately super charger stations are the only real option on long road trips in a lot of places. The other networks will only have a handful chargers and typically a few of those are out of commission. My ID.4 is perfect for commuting from the central valley into the East Bay and can easily handle our day to day transportation needs. But I use our ICE Grand Cherokee for road trips. VW is supposed to be releasing an official adapter that will let its cars charge on the supercharger network but the thought of putting even one penny into elons pockets fills me with revulsion. I simply won’t do it.

Amschroeder5
Amschroeder5
1 month ago

I would be hugely interested if the vehicle wasnt $80k to start for a dual motor version… 30k off the hood doesn’t even make it price competitive with the Model Y, unfortunately… and honestly, as much as it absolutely is a better car, it isn’t better enough to justify an almost doubling of the price (45k is currently the incentiveless price).

I wish it was, I really wish it was viable.

Amschroeder5
Amschroeder5
1 month ago
Reply to  Amschroeder5

And yes I know fuck Elon, and agree… but also I 100% could not afford to dump a paid-for car for even more money.

The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
1 month ago
Reply to  Amschroeder5

Would you consider buying a used one? There are a lot of low mileage Polestar 2s for around $20k (some as low as $15k). In two years you might be able to pick up a gently used 3 for $30k or less.

Parsko
Parsko
1 month ago

This is a more genius troll than anything Musk has done.

Ranwhenparked
Ranwhenparked
1 month ago

Isn’t Polestar about as Swedish as MG is British at this point?

Ignatius J. Reilly
Ignatius J. Reilly
1 month ago
Reply to  Ranwhenparked

It is as Swedish as the U.S. government is American.

Parsko
Parsko
1 month ago
Reply to  Ranwhenparked

Polestar is 100% Chinese.

Speedway Sammy
Speedway Sammy
1 month ago
Reply to  Parsko

So the article pic with “manufactured in S. Carolina” is fake? Just asking, I don’t have a clue.

Last edited 1 month ago by Speedway Sammy
Parsko
Parsko
1 month ago
Reply to  Speedway Sammy

Just because it is made in the US, does not mean the money is not flowing back to China.

Last edited 1 month ago by Parsko
Ash78
Ash78
1 month ago
Reply to  Parsko

True, the key metric is how much of the value add (and wages) remain within the US vs flowing back home. Most companies making cars here keep the bulk of the money — suppliers, wages, taxes — within the US, which is a win for us IMO. I’m not at all isolationist, but I do cheer for our successes in manufacturing when it’s done “the right way” and not through heavyhanded laws or tariffs.

JDE
JDE
1 month ago
Reply to  Ash78

you might have to explain what constitutes bulk? Profit Percentages are what shareholders look at and I suppose that could be the number indicated here, but I can tell you that car companies generally sit around 5-15 percent while most other stockholder beholden companies are expected to show 30 percent profit to indicate health. The operating profit margin fell to 5.5 percent in 2024 for Stellantis, it was I think 14 Percent in 2023. But because 14 or even 5 is still a big number when just looking at the dollar amount, it often gets misunderstood when discussing scope.

Speedway Sammy
Speedway Sammy
1 month ago
Reply to  Parsko

True but would you say the same thing for Honda, Toyota, Nissan, Subaru, Kia, Hyundai, BMW, VW, Daimler, etc? Would we be better off if these plants did not exist?

Parsko
Parsko
1 month ago
Reply to  Speedway Sammy

I’m actually very happy they build the cars in the US. I have no issues with any of the manufacturers you mention, because none of them are based in Communist China. It is my only hang-up. We are VERY much better off that these plants exist, and more-so that they exist in the US.

D-dub
D-dub
1 month ago
Reply to  Parsko

The money paid to the people that assembled it isn’t flowing back to China. Cars made in the US by foreign companies > cars made in Mexico by US companies.

Jon Myers
Jon Myers
1 month ago
Reply to  Parsko

And all the technology is developed in China and not the US. The US becomes just a place to bolt together parts designed by a Chinese company.

Parsko
Parsko
1 month ago
Reply to  Jon Myers

Bingo. I have no issues with Chinese engineers, Chinese engineering, or even the fact that they are bolted together in the US. It’s the eventual government where the money and taxes go I have an issue with.

I_drive_a_truck
I_drive_a_truck
1 month ago
Reply to  Speedway Sammy

Built in the US at a S Carolina factory. Polestar is owned by Geely, which is a Chinese company.

Ranwhenparked
Ranwhenparked
1 month ago

And has never built any car in Sweden in their history

Ranwhenparked
Ranwhenparked
1 month ago
Reply to  Speedway Sammy

No, it’s built in South Carolina, alright, but Polestar’s claim to identity as Swedish has been getting more and more tenuous over the years, they have some R&D and design operations in Sweden, but that’s it, every car they’ve ever sold worldwide has been built in either China, South Korea, or the US

Last edited 1 month ago by Ranwhenparked
BPS
BPS
1 month ago

I just bought a Polestar 2 this weekend. At 9 am on Saturday, there was myself and two other customers in the dealership. Both of the other customers were there to trade in their Teslas. Anecdotally, at least, the promotion seamed to have brought them some sales.

Last edited 1 month ago by BPS
Michael Beranek
Michael Beranek
1 month ago

I traded in my Tesla for a 1989 Geo Storm, with only 50% rust. The seats are ripped, it has no exhaust, fifth gear is missing, and it won’t start without a jump.
But hey, it’s better than a Tesla.

The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
1 month ago

This deal seems exceptionally misleading. Essentially, Polestar will give you $15k off the MSRP it arbitrarily set for this vehicle that may or may not have any basis in reality. For Tesla owners, Polestar will give another $5k off the MSRP it arbitrarily set for this vehicle that may or may not have any basis in reality. And of course, that $15k or $20k off comes in the form of a “clean vehicle noncash incentive,” whatever that means.

I hope no one actually thinks this deal means they are getting a car for $20k less than it is reasonably worth.

Ignatius J. Reilly
Ignatius J. Reilly
1 month ago

Are you just now discovering marketing? Regardless of how the original price is set, the $5000 extra for a Tesla trade is a real saving off that number that is not available for people trading in other brands.

The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
1 month ago

I would have to see the actual contract (and lease contracts for buyers not participating in this deal) to know if that is the case. Polestar’s website has several paragraphs of fine print for this deal. Lease deals leave a lot of room for the dealer to make money other ways. Plus, it is only for a 27 month lease. If Lewin is correct that Tesla buyers might save $100 per month, that only adds up to $2700.

I’m mostly reacting to the ridiculous headline that implies Tesla owners actually get $20k worth of value by taking this deal. As you said, this is marketing. I see articles like this on this website too often. It would be nice if writers at The Autopian were a bit more skeptical of these deals.

Last edited 1 month ago by The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
Ignatius J. Reilly
Ignatius J. Reilly
1 month ago

I agree with the fact that clickbait headlines are very annoying. It is pervasive and a sign, and cause, of the post-truth world in which we now live.

Ben
Ben
1 month ago

It’s not the deal that’s misleading, it’s the Autopian headline. It really should say they’re offering an additional $5000 discount for Tesla owners. The full $20000 number mostly doesn’t relate to whether you own a Tesla or not.

The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
The Stig's Misanthropic Cousin
1 month ago
Reply to  Ben

The deal itself also appears a bit shady. The current lease offer (without any Tesla discounts) is $599 for 27 months with an MSRP of $68,900. Using Wayback Machine, I see a lease offer of $599 for 36 months with otherwise identical terms (i.e. same money down, identical BS fees, same MSRP, etc.). The only difference now is the deal is shorter. If you go back to November 2024, Polestar was advertising a 36 month lease for $699 at an MSRP of $74,800.

Based on this, it appears Polestar lowered the price of the car between November and December and called it an incentive.

Adding the $5000 Tesla conquest deal is new, but that appears to be a value of around $3,000 over the life of the lease. That appears to be a legitimate discount that reduces total cost of the lease by around 10-15%.

The Autopian headline is factually incorrect, but I stand by my statement that this lease deal is also misleading. Polestar hasn’t substantially changed their pricing over the last few months aside from adding a small discount to lessees who are previous Tesla owners.

It is a great marketing ploy, though. It appears to have worked.

Ben
Ben
1 month ago

Fair. That historical context for the pricing definitely makes it even shadier, to the point where I think it would be worth updating the article, in case anyone from the site is listening.

Last edited 1 month ago by Ben
Speedway Sammy
Speedway Sammy
1 month ago

How long before Musk has to deploy National Guard regiments to cordon off Tesla sales / service points besieged by protestors?

Ignatius J. Reilly
Ignatius J. Reilly
1 month ago

Presales of the original Beetle were used to help fund the Nazi war effort. Too bad the Germans who were willing to see what was right in front of them weren’t more vocally angry with their neighbors about their support for evil. Hopefully, the remaining sane Americans have more backbone.

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
1 month ago

Many Germans DID protest. Very bad things happened to them:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/guides/zp3p82p/revision/6

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_resistance_to_Nazism

So being vocally angry to your Nazi neighbor -> neighbor informs Gestapo or SA = you get a visit in the middle of the night -> you and perhaps your family end up dead or in a concentration camp and your neighbor gets an informant’s bonus.

Ignatius J. Reilly
Ignatius J. Reilly
1 month ago
Reply to  Cheap Bastard

That is true, but there was a window of time before those systems were fully in motion, which is where we are now. Besides, no matter the consequences, nobody with any moral integrity would stay silent.

My grandfather was with the U.S. Army with the division that liberated Buchenwald. His surname was German; he grew up in a town in Wisconsin where the majority of the population was of German descent. He told me in no uncertain terms that one thing he regretted was not ensuring that the “America First” pro-nazi, pseudo-American-patriots in his town knew what he thought of them at every opportunity.

He did make sure they knew what he thought of them when he returned.

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
1 month ago

I think doing so in Germany would have gotten your name and address on a list to be dealt with later. Or maybe you’d *just* get beaten up by the brownshirts. A few weeks in hospital, a bit of permanent nerve damage for your trouble. But maybe that would have been the impetus to GTFO of Nazi Germany. Somewhere safe..like Austria, the Sudetenland or Poland.

Ignatius J. Reilly
Ignatius J. Reilly
1 month ago
Reply to  Cheap Bastard

All true, but the basic issues remain. The state-based system of repression took a bit to materialize after the initial change in government.

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
1 month ago

Hopefully that will take more than four years.

Ignatius J. Reilly
Ignatius J. Reilly
1 month ago
Reply to  Cheap Bastard

I applaud your optimism that there will be elections in four years. I am confident there won’t be.

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
1 month ago

I’m more worried about bird flu.

Ignatius J. Reilly
Ignatius J. Reilly
1 month ago
Reply to  Cheap Bastard

I wish I could say my predictions about any of this since 2015 have been wrong, but they haven’t. I have the benefit of having multiple citizenships. Not that that will be a sure safety net.

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
1 month ago

If things get xenophobic enough you could be forced to choose between your US or foreign allegiances.

Ignatius J. Reilly
Ignatius J. Reilly
1 month ago
Reply to  Cheap Bastard

It’s not a hard decision. A U.S. passport is quickly becoming a scarlet letter in most places.

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
1 month ago

Its a different story within the US though.

Ignatius J. Reilly
Ignatius J. Reilly
1 month ago
Reply to  Cheap Bastard

Very true. But given where things are headed, I won’t be worried about that.

William Domer
William Domer
1 month ago
Reply to  Cheap Bastard

The price of eggs was a campaign issue. Jesus fuck we are a stupid people. And now the price has doubled. Trickle down all over again

Cheap Bastard
Cheap Bastard
1 month ago
Reply to  William Domer

Egg prices suck but there are ways to beat the game.

Start with your local grocery clearance stores. Eggs can go *cheap* on their sell by date. My local Grocery Outlet was selling a dozen medium eggs for $1.99 just a couple of days ago ($3.99 for ex large). I bought all I could handle. I saw today the new normal price at that store was just under $10.

From there you can use the eggs in freeze ahead meal portions to keep almost indefinitely or pasteurize them and they will keep at least a month, maybe longer. I had bought a 5 dzn box from Costco a month ago and had pasteurized them then. The ones I used from that box a couple of days ago were indistinguishable from fresh. I wouldn’t recommend them raw out of an abundance of caution but they should be fine for cooking or baking.

Yes it’s a bit of work but the trade off is having eggs on hand when you need them instead of scrambling your plans when you find all the shelves are bare. I learned THAT lesson during the great TP shortage of ’20.

David Frisby
David Frisby
1 month ago

Crazy idea, but is there a way that Polestar take ‘ownership’ of any cars that are traded in, then to boost the US economy in a green way, cannibalise the Teslas to use the battery and motor etc etc to make a new range of ‘recycled’ vehicles.
Depending on the degradation of the battery, gives you a short or a long range too version too. So number of Polestars goes up, number of jobs goes up, number of Swasticars goes down. Everyone wins…. Well maybe not Elon.

Last edited 1 month ago by David Frisby
Shop-Teacher
Shop-Teacher
1 month ago

That’s genius. If the other EV manufacturers have more than 3 brain cells to rub together, they’ll be copying this idea shortly.

Mechjaz
Mechjaz
1 month ago

“This” automaker is Polestar. Please just say so in the headline. “This” is a needless gotcha to pique curiosity and drive clickthrough by hiding information and is disingenuous and disrespectful to your readers

10001010
10001010
1 month ago
Reply to  Mechjaz

Because you put “This” in quotes I read your entire comment in Doug Demuro’s voice.

Saul Goodman
Saul Goodman
1 month ago
Reply to  10001010

THIIIIS is a needless gotcha to pique curiousity, and today I’m going to be showing you all its quirks and features!

Drew
Drew
1 month ago
Reply to  Mechjaz

I clicked the article just to say this. There’s no need to hide the ball–be straightforward in the headline and offer the details in the article.

D-dub
D-dub
1 month ago
Reply to  Mechjaz

God I hate “this” trend in news sites. Please don’t let it be creeping into enthusiast sites as well.

Data
Data
1 month ago
Reply to  Mechjaz

Increase clicks with “this” one weird trick.

GreatFallsGreen
GreatFallsGreen
1 month ago
Reply to  Data

Doctor recommends clicking “THIS” every day to immediately cleanse your bowels!

SNL-LOL Jr
SNL-LOL Jr
1 month ago
Reply to  Mechjaz

I mean, one can easily see it’s a Polestar 3 in 12 parsecs.

My Goat Ate My Homework
My Goat Ate My Homework
1 month ago
Reply to  Mechjaz

I hate to say… but this is just the natural evolution of online media as they chase clicks. Anyone that has been here from the beginning has seen it happening. Maybe slower than in some other cases, but the creep continues. At least they aren’t totally leaning into it.

Ben
Ben
1 month ago
Reply to  Mechjaz

According to social media folks I respect, being slightly vague in your headlines is one of the best ways to drive clicks without being completely inaccurate clickbait. The bigger problem with the headline is that the $20000 number isn’t for Tesla owners, it’s 15k for everyone and 5k for Tesla refugees. That is arguably inaccurate.

Until they’re fully funded by subscriptions, they have to play the game. “This” is part of it. Otherwise the site withers and dies and you get your wish that there be no more vague headlines, because there will be no more headlines at all.

Bomber
Bomber
1 month ago

We love free market! No, not like that. Someone at Tesla and the government right now…probably.

Taargus Taargus
Taargus Taargus
1 month ago
Reply to  Bomber

Every conservative in my life has at one point claimed that they love the free market, yet will simultaneously get mad at anyone making consumption choices against conservative companies, as if I’m somehow violating their favorite corporation’s right to free speech by avoiding a particular chicken sandwich.

You can’t have it both ways.

Mechjaz
Mechjaz
1 month ago

That’s not what Burger King told me!

Just kidding, no one eats at Burger King.

Taargus Taargus
Taargus Taargus
1 month ago
Reply to  Mechjaz

I actually had Burger King this weekend. Wasn’t my choice. Mediocre as usual.

SNL-LOL Jr
SNL-LOL Jr
1 month ago

Every self-proclaimed “freedom-loving” enthusiasts must also offer unconditional support for:

Racial equality
Women’s right to choose
Freedom of having no religion
Freedom of not having governmental policy being influenced by others’ adult fairy tales
LBGTQ (with probable exception to unsettled questions on biological performance in sports)
Euthanasia

Any detractor is a phony.

Taargus Taargus
Taargus Taargus
1 month ago
Reply to  SNL-LOL Jr

I get the impression that many folks out there aren’t aware of what freedom actually is, or means.

Howie
Howie
1 month ago

I cannot give this more likes. The damn “prayer” at the NASCAR race. I get that it is really free speech, but a prayer? Damn

Howie
Howie
1 month ago
Reply to  Howie

I don’t subscribe to your religion. My Catholic Mom would be appalled by the language. I would stop by my parents house on Thanksgiving and they would have a really nice group of people who didn’t look like them.

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