One of the more annoying steps of a car revival is figuring out what to do with a tank of old gas. If you’re lucky, the vehicle you’re trying to bring back to life has a drain at the bottom of its tank. If it doesn’t, you’re sometimes left deploying the old-school siphon. Old-school car enthusiasts almost certainly know the taste of gas from starting a siphon with a mouth, but there’s a better way. For less than $15 all you have to do is shake a tube and let the tank drain itself. I’m serious.
This year, I’ve embarked on my first-ever classic car revival. Admittedly, work is going slow, but I’m now making regular progress. Since starting work on my 1948 Plymouth Special DeLuxe, I cleaned the giant spiders out of the vehicle, freed up its mighty flathead straight-six, tested its electrical system, and rebuilt its carburetor. I’ve also confirmed that the car has working brakes, a shifting transmission, a grabbing clutch, and even working lights.


I feel like we’re only just a few more fixes away from the car’s first start in nearly a decade. But before I can get there, I have to remove the rotted old fuel from the vehicle’s tank.
While this may be my first car revival, I’ve brought several motorcycles back from the dead in the past. Thankfully, my years of wrenching on bikes and watching Vice Grip Garage have seemingly primed me to work on this Plymouth. There’s a lot that feels familiar even though I’ve never worked on a classic car before. The carburetor seemed similar enough to the carbs I’ve fixed on old motorcycles. The ignition and electrical systems are also pretty simple, like I’ve experienced on older bikes.
But this time I’ve decided to do something different. When I revived motorcycles in the past, I had two methods for dealing with old gas. Often, I just topped up the tank with new gas, installed a fuel filter, and sent it. Truth be told, most of the time this worked out just fine. The engines were never super happy to burn years-old gas, but eventually all of the bad stuff got burned away and nasty fragments got caught by the filter. Chances are you’ve read that gas begins to break down after only six months. While that may be true, even broken down gas can burn long after that six-month mark. Will it be great fuel? No, but it can burn.
There have been times when this strategy bit me, such as when particles apparently got past fuel filters and clogged up my motorcycle carburetors. So, sometimes, I did the old-school way of emptying tanks and sucked on a tube inserted into the tank to start a siphon process. But let’s be real here, tasting decade-old gas sucks and I reckon 10 out of 10 doctors would recommend against doing that for your health.
You can also buy transfer tubes with hand-squeeze pumps (like the ones you get with blood pressure cuffs) on them. But in my experience, they work maybe once or twice before failing.
A few months ago I saw the answer.
I’m not sure what YouTube channel I was watching. Or, heck, maybe I was watching a friend wrench. All I know is that the person whipped out the same rubber tube you’d use to siphon gas out of a tank. But at the end of the tube was something unexpected. The end of the tube featured a metal end with a marble captured inside of it. When you shook the tube, a siphon gets started without any sucking on your part.
I had to get one of my own. Sure enough, for just $12 on the jungle site you can get a six-foot hose with a valve on the end. Amusingly, Harvard University has a simple mathematical explanation for how a siphon works:
A siphon is a device that allows the transfer of a fluid from one reservoir to a second at a lower level even though the first part of the journey is up-hill. A siphon is effectively an inverted U-tube with unequal length tubes. The asymmetry means that there is a pressure difference between the ends;
at the upper reservoir: p1 = P – ρgh1
at the lower reservoir: p2 = P – ρgh2
(where P = atmospheric pressure)So p1 > p2 if h2 > h1 and the fluid flows. To get the siphon ‘running’ you do need to reduce p2 and the best way is orally by sucking on the tube (this is why we use water rather than gasoline which would have been be easier to see), but once the head difference is achieved the process is automatic.
The University of Nevada has more details:
When both legs of the siphon are full, because of gravity, the hydrostatic force (the force of the water) is greater on the higher side of the tube. This means the liquid will move up the lower leg of the tube, over the rim of the beaker and into the lower beaker. Once started the flow will continue until the water levels are equal. Then the hydrostatic forces on each leg of the tube will also be equal.
In theory, the marble inside of the valve of this newfangled siphon is just doing what your mouth used to. Only now you don’t need your mouth to do it.
Update: I’ve been informed that auto-siphons have been around for decades. If you, like me, have been sucking on tubes for years, we’ve been doing things the wrong way for too long!
Still, I couldn’t believe it even when I saw it with my own eyes. My favorite car revival YouTuber, Derek Bieri of Vice Grip Garage, calls these things “Alabama Credit Cards” and even in his hands they work like magic.
Setting up my “credit card” to work on my Plymouth was stupid easy. I just unraveled the hose, stuck one end into the Plymouth’s fuel tank, stuck the other end into an empty fuel container, and then shook it a bunch of times like a shake weight. Sure enough, I began seeing fuel in the hose. Once the fuel reached most of the way through the tube, the process became entirely automatic.
By my estimate, there was a little bit over three gallons of bad fuel in the Plymouth’s fuel tank. But here’s the awesome part: The fuel didn’t look that bad!
I mean, yes, it did smell varnished and the fuel was a little bit on the brown side. However, I didn’t see any major particles and the fuel still ignited when I lit it up. I then dragged the siphon across the bottom of the tank, where I got more fuel, but no rust or anything too nasty like that.
I’ve brought back motorcycles that had substantially worse gas than this. If I had to wager a guess, the car’s previous owner, Willie, probably put ethanol-free fuel in this baby. I can’t wait to take a picture of this thing once it emerges from the operating room that is my tiny apartment garage.
With removing the old gas out of the way, I put some fresh fuel in the tank, mounted up the rebuilt carburetor, primed the carburetor, and then let the car rip. The engine easily spun over, but didn’t fire. Sure enough, the Plymouth isn’t making any spark.
In fairness, I did expect that. I just got so excited I skipped the ignition system entirely. I do have the parts to rebuild the ignition system, but I’ll first try to get things going by cleaning the points first. This car is so close to running, I can feel it! I’m sure the fuel tank probably still has some nasty bits left in it, and I’ll run some filters for now. Ideally, the whole tank needs to come down to be cleaned, but that’s something for another day.
But the triumph of getting this engine running will hopefully be a story I get to write really soon. For now, I just want to marvel at the usefulness of this cheap tool. I think my dentist and my doctor will agree that this auto siphon glockenspiel is some of the best $12 I’ve ever spent.
(Images: Author)
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On a related note, I have a question for my fellow Autopians:
I need to dispose of some old gasoline that I want to drain from one of my collector cars . This will be 15-20 gallons of fuel!!
Where do you fine folks go to dispose of old fuel?
( I am in South East Michigan)
I pour it in to our Suzuki a few litres at a time.
It’s the least stressed engine and it does the most miles.
Thanks for the reply, but I am looking to dispose with all of the fuel all at once.
My local Hazardous Waste Center takes stuff like that, but not sure if they have a volume limit. 20 gal doesn’t sound like too much, but you could also probably contact your local fire dept for recommendations. They should be glad you’re not burning your house down with it I would think.
I’m sure the guy selling bags of 93 on Craigslist can also recommend this product.
“I reckon 10 out of 10 doctors would recommend against doing that for your health.”
Ha, yeah, one would like to think so; since there are actually some anti-vax doctors out there it might be more like 9 out of 10 doctors (hopefully no fewer!)
I stick with the Original Safety Siphon
The siphon hose is a fantastic tool, I use mine constantly. Picked it up at Princess Auto for $8.
I can’t wait to see this old machine up and running! I feel like you’ll have more luck with this car than the Nissaxi that SWG and the others have been fighting.
Fantastic work, Mercedes! You’re kicking some serious ass on this project.
I think I’ve typed this in these comments before, but this time it’s appropriate…
A tool like this would have been really nice to use to empty the birthing pool we used for my 2nd child. I didn’t get a mouthful due to the pool being on the 2nd floor, and me sucking from the 1st floor, I had more than enough time to react, but it would have been nice to not have to react.
effin gross
I’ve needed to empty several 55 gallon drums from a 4th story roof, and the method I used was stick the entire hose into the barrel except for the end, put your thumb over the end, then quickly pull about 10′ out making a loop hanging off the roof while you thumb still is sealing it, then drop the end. Even if you got a big bubble in there, as long as enough water collected in the loop it’ll start the siphon.
I was born in a bathtub, so I assume my parents just opened the drain…
Kinda like draining a waterbed? Does that date me?
Saw the lead picture and thought “Alabama Credit Card”. Glad to see you were already in the know.
I have a hand pump siphon that does the job well.
Most modern cars have “anti-siphon” thingies (technical term) that prevent the hose from getting to the gas, so these won’t work. So you’d have to do it the tweaker way, by using a cordless drill to hole the tank. The DUMB tweakers don’t know to use brushless drills… A mistake often done only once.
These shaker siphons have been around for decades. First time I ever saw one was at the boat show at the old Arlington Park, that’s how long ago it was. We arranged to become a vendor that day and have had them in our store ever since, they’re easier to come by now. They work great!
Yeah, they seem really popular at show type events. Large car part swaps, state fairs, things where someone may rent a spot and pop up a tent and sling them to the public as they meander by.
There’s a guy selling them at the Carlisle part swaps in both spring and fall.
Wow! You mean to tell me I had no reason to do the old-school way at all? Well, I suppose it’s better to discover a cool tool later than never!
Naw, you gotta do it the hard way a few times to appreciate the improvement! I just try to time it so that I don’t taste the gas. Can’t say I’m always good at that part.
You will still need to remove the tank and get all the old crud out. The mud like stinking mixture of rust flakes and old gasoline is especially unfunny to deal with… Clogs up fuel lines and filters fast if you don’t get all of it out. Just did it recently on one of my old VWs. Starts and runs like a dream now.
But the “autosiphon” valve hoses are great! We use them around here to fill diesel on our sailboats from jerry cans.
Timely story here, as i have fuel to get out of a generator as well as an old mower I need to take to the scrappers.
Mercedes, you are a wealth of information. And that Plymouth – it’s such an incredible find. Cannot wait to see that in running order!
I first saw these shake-to-siphon things in the context of fish tanks.
Is it weird that I’m more willing to get a mouthful of nasty old gas than one of fish-poop?
Given what’s in tank water, I’m with you – ready and willing to get a mouthful of old gas vs ewwwwww.
Fish tanks are easier. Just submerge the whole hose, pop your thumb over the end to hold suction, then pull the hose out (leaving the other end submerged), and set it in your drain bucket.
Flow begins and you save a mouthful thanks to suction, which is often the opposite of what’s expected from suction! Hooray science!
Otherwise known as the jerk-off action siphon technique!!
If you use the submerged hose & thumb method, there’s exactly 0 jerk-off action. Unless you’re looking for something to pass the time while the tank drains.
I used to homebrew beer, and there’s a tool brewers use called an “Autosyphon” that just has a little pump you press a couple of times to start the syphon. I think it’s similarly cheap, and I’m amazed anybody uses their mouth to start fluid transfer.
People have been using their mouths to facilitate fluid transfer for millennia. Don’t knock it till you try it!